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Anonymous Canada No.23092792 >>23092796 >>23092797 >>23092798 >>23092808 >>23092833 >>23092838 >>23092850 >>23092868 >>23092889 >>23092915 >>23092919 >>23092929 >>23092932
Permaculture thread
Medlar edition
Continuation of >>512765182
Anonymous Netherlands No.23092793 >>23092794 >>23092795 >>23092801 >>23092824 >>23092864 >>23092933 >>23092948 >>23097201
>tfw my San Marzano tomatoes probably have blight
it's only the San Marzano ones, the other tomatoes are fine. I had to prune a lot and throw a lot away. Any tips on how to prevent this in the future?
Anonymous Canada No.23092794
>>23092793
Tomatoes are fickle, friend. I'm sorry you're having a rough time.
Some years I get too many, some years I get almost none.
Anonymous United States No.23092795 >>23092947
>>23092793
Tomatoes will get diseases no matter what, it's just about trying to manage it as best you can. Good pruning to ensure proper airflow is about the best you can do barring spraying
Anonymous Serbia No.23092796 >>23092800 >>23092802 >>23092804 >>23092892
>>23092792 (OP)
i want to grow something comfy like mushrooms
is that hard to do?
Anonymous Switzerland No.23092797
>>23092792 (OP)
Those who don't have a place where to cultivate should learn about foraging. It would be more usefull and can even be done in an urban area in an emergency case.
Anonymous Canada No.23092798 >>23092799 >>23092907
>>23092792 (OP)
Wild blueberries and high-bush cross soon
Anonymous United States No.23092799
>>23092798
Those are called half-high, look for the Patriot cultivar. I have one and it produces very large and sweet berries
Anonymous Switzerland No.23092800
>>23092796
It depends on the mushroom. Polypore are easier usually. You can start a chicken mushroom (Laetiporus sulphureus) farm in a forest easily if the mushrooms like the place and the type of wood you used.
Anonymous Georgia No.23092801 >>23092803
>>23092793
Could try feeding them with silicon, strengthens cell walls making it harder for pathogens to break into the plant. Don't over-do it though, it makes the fruit firmer.
Anonymous Canada No.23092802
>>23092796
Depends on the kind.
You can make a killing growing oyster mushrooms.
Anonymous Canada No.23092803 >>23092805 >>23092807
>>23092801
What do you grow in Caucasian land?
Anonymous Georgia No.23092804 >>23092920
>>23092796
I've grown magic mushrooms in those cheap bag kits you get (they work the same for normal shrooms too), was piss easy, but apparently there are much better ways, cheaper, larger yields, if you can be arsed to look it all up.
Anonymous Georgia No.23092805 >>23092806
>>23092803
I'm in the UK, I'm just paranoid.
Anonymous Canada No.23092806 >>23092813
>>23092805
I mean, we know the government is out to get you, so totally fair.
Anonymous Latvia No.23092807 >>23092811
>>23092803
He grows silicon
Anonymous Latvia No.23092808 >>23092815 >>23092922
>>23092792 (OP)
I can't wait for apples and pears. September is going to be great.
Anonymous Canada No.23092809 >>23092810 >>23092857
Anyone here every hear of gooseberries? They are like European currants.
Anonymous Canada No.23092810 >>23092815
>>23092809
Same family as the currant, and yes. They're good. Great for jam. Strong recommendation. Go for the darker varieties if you can. They taste better, IMO.
Anonymous Canada No.23092811
>>23092807
lol
Anonymous Canada No.23092812 >>23092821 >>23092857 >>23092886
Post weird fruit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvbLz_Tw2pY
Anonymous Georgia No.23092813 >>23092814
>>23092806
It makes me feel like a jew for hiding my real flag; I appreciate your understanding.
Anonymous Canada No.23092814 >>23092825
>>23092813
I would also understand it if you gave them all a guillotine ride, you know.

Anywhere, here's the caviar lime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GujWiKI6N5U
Anonymous Canada No.23092815 >>23092816
>>23092808
>I can't wait for apples and pears. September is going to be great.
May the birds not fuck with you during fruiting
>>23092810
Looking forward to growing them, I think it's cool they're ready mid-summer.
Anonymous Canada No.23092816 >>23092817 >>23092819
>>23092815
Yeah, just plant as many different kinds of fruit as you can and you'll always have something ripe.

Really recommend haskap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqOD-ZqLYHo
Anonymous Canada No.23092817 >>23092818
>>23092816
Fuck yeah I'll grow this.
After reading what it can survive I'm sold.
Anonymous Canada No.23092818
>>23092817
Easily one of the best things I've planted.
Anonymous United States No.23092819 >>23092820 >>23092822 >>23092823
>>23092816
>Really recommend haskap

Leafs are putting up the points today. NEver heard of that one before.
Anonymous Canada No.23092820
>>23092819
Top-tier fruit. Cost me a bit more than the other stuff, but worth it.
Anonymous Finland No.23092821 >>23092826 >>23092906 >>23092929
>>23092812
I'm going to make wine out of lingonberries
Anonymous Canada No.23092822 >>23092858
>>23092819
Bruh you most likely have American persimmons and pawpaw, I'm jealous.
Anonymous Canada No.23092823 >>23092827
>>23092819
bro leaf here, and I also never heard of this lol
Anonymous United States No.23092824 >>23092828
>>23092793
Post a picture of them. There are many things that can afflict them and they mostly look different.
Anonymous Georgia No.23092825
>>23092814
>caviar lime.
Nice, looks lush. I might just about be able to get away with those in my climate.
Anonymous Canada No.23092826 >>23092832
>>23092821
Do it!
What are you going to sweeten it with? A honey base would work really well.
Anonymous Canada No.23092827
>>23092823
It's only starting to gain popularity here in Quebec.
Anonymous Netherlands No.23092828 >>23092829
>>23092824
I'll post a pic when i come back from the gym
Anonymous Canada No.23092829 >>23092830
>>23092828
Remember to remove any geolocation data.
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092830 >>23092831
>>23092829
As of a few years ago, 4chan strips Metadata anyway.
Anonymous Canada No.23092831 >>23092836
>>23092830
You still shouldn't give your metadata to 4chan. Who knows what they keep on the backend.
Anonymous Finland No.23092832 >>23092834
>>23092826
I was thinking about just using sugar, maybe the honey would be better? I have zero idea on how to make wine by the way but thats what I intend to do, have you ever done it? I'm kinda exited to see how shit or good it will be
Anonymous Canada No.23092833 >>23092835 >>23092859 >>23092893
>>23092792 (OP)
>/pol/ - Food & Cooking

completely off-topic thread, nothing to do with politics, but jannies are trannies and mods tongue my asshole
Anonymous Canada No.23092834 >>23092842
>>23092832
I'm not a brewer (yet).
It's fairly simple. Just make sure you keep everything absolutely clean at all times in the process.
I'm a huge fan of mead, personally.
Anonymous Canada No.23092835 >>23092845
>>23092833
We got over this every thread: The point of growing food yourself is to survive as the supply chain collapses. We've already seen how fragile it was in the early 2020's. It's not going to get better during WWIII.
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092836 >>23092837 >>23092839
>>23092831
No need to be paranoid, I doubt very much the Dutch Secret Service would hassle him over his alleged tomato blight?
Anonymous Canada No.23092837
>>23092836
4chan has been hacked before.
Anonymous United States No.23092838 >>23092840
>>23092792 (OP)
I had to uproot my sapling gingko this year because the rain was so absurdly prominent that it caused flooding.
The poor thing is just starting to regrow.
I was really hoping to plant it as a flagship to my medicinal garden...
Anonymous Canada No.23092839 >>23092851
>>23092836
Never know. Look at what the Americans did to the currant and gooseberry.
Anonymous Canada No.23092840
>>23092838
That's sad to hear, Anon.
How does it taste fresh?
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092841 >>23092843 >>23092847 >>23092848 >>23092851
Anyone on a similar latitude to England grow chilli's before? I'd like to have a crack at some habeneros next year. Any tips would be appreciated.
Anonymous Finland No.23092842 >>23092844
>>23092834
Nice, I have been wanting to get into brewing beer and making wine too, it seems like a pretty chill activity and not too complicated, all meads have honey in it right?
Anonymous Canada No.23092843
>>23092841
They like lots of sun, so you might be better off doing them indoors with grow lamps.
Anonymous Canada No.23092844 >>23092852
>>23092842
Yeah, mead is honey wine, but you can have other stuff in there if you want.

Also, you should try spruce beer.
Anonymous Canada No.23092845 >>23092846 >>23092849
>>23092835
meanwhile this thread
>oh yummy yum! what a great recipe!
>should I use more sugar... or less? how about honey?
>I'm so excited for my gooseberries to heckin ripen!
>guys check out my epic haul!
>Look at this epic weird fruit!

the fact that it's a regular thread too make it even more pathetic, you're clearly passionate about cooking and you've got no one to share your passion with except for schizo racists and wannabe communists on an anonymous subreddit.
Anonymous Canada No.23092846 >>23092854
>>23092845
No, the idea is to get as many people as possible into growing their own food so that they can survive. You just can't stand that it's all very wholesome stuff that would be worth doing even if the world wasn't going to shit.
Anonymous Georgia No.23092847
>>23092841
Not personally, but a mate's mum in London grows fuckloads of them every year under cover (unheated greenhouse, and those cheaper plastic kits you get on amazon). Pretty sure she mentioned Habaneros in the past, she's definitely grown Scotch Bonnets and Carolina Reapers.

Definitely do-able.
Anonymous Finland No.23092848
>>23092841
Grow them inside first for a couple weeks with some LED lamps, friend of mine grew all sorts of chilis outside and it could presumably be even harder here than in the UK, you could also just grow them inside all together just sitting on a windowsill, as far as I know habaneros are some of the easier to grow so its probably a decent place to start

https://www.chilipeppermadness.com/growing-chili-peppers/growing-chili-peppers-guide/
Anonymous Canada No.23092849 >>23092854
>>23092845
OP's cool though.
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092850 >>23092923
>>23092792 (OP)

This thread is a pleasant surprise.

Did my PDC back in 2011, a bunch of us ran a neat little operation for a while, working with schools, community gardens etc. if permaculture is getting a bump and new people are taking it up then it can only be a good thing.
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092851 >>23092853
>>23092839
Kek
But don't the Americans have guns to prevent tyrannical Governments?


>>23092841
Yes mate.
I've done it. I'm lucky in having large South facing windows.
Cayenne's and Habeneros are easy to grow but I did have problems with Scotch Bonnets and Ghost Chillies (only 2 or 3 fruits per plant)

Don't over water them and use Tomato feed occasionally. They do like sunlight.
Anonymous Finland No.23092852 >>23092865 >>23092872
>>23092844
You mean spruce as in the tree? What is that and how to aquire?
Anonymous Canada No.23092853
>>23092851
>But don't the Americans have guns to prevent tyrannical Governments?
Seems they got outnumbered on this issue.
It was farmers and gardeners vs the US's Strategic pine reserve.
Anonymous Canada No.23092854 >>23092855 >>23092856 >>23092861
>>23092849
OP's a blogposting nancy. 1/3 of the posts are all his.

>>23092846
yeah? cause it seems more like an off-topic circle jerk

There's AN ENTIRE BOARD dedicated to food and cooking. i guess that board is too slow for OP who's desperate for attention.
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092855 >>23092860
>>23092854
I do visit /ck/ but it's full of dimwit Amerimutts who think growing your own is for poorfags and then argue which store-bought brand is better.
Anonymous Canada No.23092856
>>23092854
/out/ doesn't seem to have much traffic. I think a thread like this every now and then on a fast board like /pol/ isn't so bad
Anonymous United States No.23092857 >>23092866
>>23092809
>>23092812
I found one of these last year while helping my elderly neighbor weed her garden, haven't gotten fruit from it yet though (ribes cynosbati)
Anonymous United States No.23092858 >>23092867
>>23092822
>persimmons
>never liked them

Texture off for my taste. Not sure I've had pawpaws.
Anonymous United States No.23092859 >>23092863
>>23092833
>completely off-topic thread

Everything to do with /pol. It's anti-control, anti-supply chain disruption, self-empowering, and shaking off learned helplessness.
Anonymous United States No.23092860
>>23092855
>then argue which store-bought brand is better
>now that's tedious
Anonymous Georgia No.23092861 >>23092862
>>23092854
What's the matter, mad your janny application got turned down again?
Anonymous United States No.23092862 >>23092876
>>23092861
>What's the matter

He's being forced to click & read this thread.
Anonymous Canada No.23092863 >>23092869
>>23092859
>Everything to do with /pol. It's anti-control, anti-supply chain disruption, self-empowering, and shaking off learned helplessness.

"persimmons have a yucky texture! I prefer pawpaws and peepoos!"

bunch of kitchen nancies pretending to be revolutionaries overthrowing the government and jeff bezos one strawberry tart a time
https://x.com/4chan_AI_Terror Netherlands No.23092864 >>23092899 >>23092908
>>23092793
You have to separate the infiltrator tomatoes from
the native tomatoes that are making all the vegetables the sick.
Once separated you put the infiltrator tomatoes to good work in the compost bin so they can heal the garden and undo all the damage they caused.


For more Gardening Tips
read my book Mein Kampf against the infiltrator tomatoes.
Anonymous Canada No.23092865 >>23092872
>>23092852
Yes, like the tree.
It's an old favourite of settlers here in the North East. It's a molasses or maple base with the fresh buds from a few different kinds of spruce tree (some are better than others).
It's really fucking good.
Anonymous Canada No.23092866
>>23092857
Nice!
Anonymous Canada No.23092867 >>23092871
>>23092858
Paw paws are like if a mango, pineapple and banana had a baby together.
Anonymous Puerto Rico No.23092868 >>23092870
>>23092792 (OP)
my guavas are booming, i planted a cinnamon tree but i fucked up planting it in too direct of sun a light so i just got back from vacation and a leaf burnt.
Anonymous United States No.23092869
>>23092863
>"persimmons have a yucky texture
>we agree

Also try not to be a faggot even though you struggle.
Anonymous Canada No.23092870
>>23092868
>Guava
I love how they taste (especially on toast with cream cheese), but god damn does the fruit smell awful. It's like cat piss.
Anonymous United States No.23092871 >>23092873 >>23092874 >>23092875
>>23092867

At new property this year. Garden very basic + things already here (blueberries, black raspberries). Next year we'll branch out, maybe add some specials. Main thing though are more perennials that can grow without work. More berries, most likely also ground nuts & sunchokes.
Anonymous Canada No.23092872
>>23092852
>>23092865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgLC_DRd2cg

I grew up drinking the stuff all the time.
Anonymous Canada No.23092873 >>23092874 >>23092875
>>23092871
Ever heard of che fruit? It's also known as the mandarin melon berry. If you only plant the female, you get seedless fruit!
Anonymous Canada No.23092874 >>23092875 >>23092878 >>23092905 >>23092911
>>23092871
>>23092873
You may see the resemblance to its cousins, the osage orange or the mulberry.
Anonymous Canada No.23092875 >>23092897 >>23092905
>>23092871
>>23092873
>>23092874
This one looks a bit more similar, but it's not really a great food source. It does make an excellent barrier, though.
Anonymous Canada No.23092876
>>23092862
Is he, though?
Is he truly?

Don't give me the "It's his job" excuse. He could get a job that is actually productive.

Might I suggest picking fruit?
Anonymous Finland No.23092877 >>23092879 >>23092881 >>23092901
I'm gradually turning my whole yard into a plantation with these bad boys. Potatoes, carrots, tomatoes, zucchini, pumpkins, even some herbs and strawberries. Next year I might try some salads and kale once I get the next phase of expansion done.
Anonymous United States No.23092878
>>23092874
>osage orange

My recollection is that produces great hardwood also.
Anonymous Canada No.23092879 >>23092880
>>23092877
Raised beds make weed control way easier. Keep it up, Anon!
Anonymous Finland No.23092880
>>23092879
Without them it would be hard to get anything growing since the local soil is so poor and rough. Also it's easier to satisfy the different soil & fertilizer requirements for different crops.
Anonymous United States No.23092881 >>23092882
>>23092877
>these bad boys

Do you have termites in your soil? We do in New England. I took a propane weed torch to the bottom board edges in our beds. It helped but by 3rd season termites had set up shop. Doing it again would use aluminum roof flashing folded over edges.
Anonymous Finland No.23092882 >>23092883 >>23092888
>>23092881
No termites here, we're far too north for them.
There is an invasion of spanish slugs though, I'm currently in process of installing slug zappers to every single bed.
Anonymous Canada No.23092883 >>23092900
>>23092882
Does the beer trick work on those ones?
Anonymous United States No.23092884 >>23092885 >>23092896
For me it’s growing weed and trading it at the farmers market once a week
Anonymous United States No.23092885
>>23092884
Anonymous Belgium No.23092886 >>23092887 >>23092890
>>23092812
cought this bitch growing in my backyard the other day
Anonymous Belgium No.23092887 >>23092890
>>23092886
pretty fowers though
Anonymous United States No.23092888
>>23092882
Just get some ducks
Anonymous United States No.23092889
>>23092792 (OP)
What are some /pol/ approved plants? For me its Orchids
Anonymous Canada No.23092890 >>23092894
>>23092886
>>23092887
Wouldn't eat that. Looks like consuming it will bring visions of demons.
Anonymous United States No.23092891 >>23092916
I gave up on my food garden this year as it was too much work with twin infants.
This year I grew many many lilies and potted citrus.
Anonymous United States No.23092892
>>23092796
I had an extremally easy time growing oyster mushrooms in hay. cooked and moistened hay before adding mycelium I ordered online. Just needed to keep it very moist and it produced constantly
Anonymous United States No.23092893
>>23092833
this. jannies need to ban twitter screenshots and no link posts as well.

clean it the FUCK UP
Anonymous Belgium No.23092894 >>23092895
>>23092890
it does, right before it kills you. (it's jimson weed)
Anonymous United States No.23092895 >>23092898
>>23092894
My dad knew a guy who went blind eating this shit lmao
Anonymous Georgia No.23092896
>>23092884
The weed I grow outside always has the shittest bag appeal (not that I care). I couldn't imagine many people wanting to buy it, with today's over-saturated market. Still, does the job just as well though, but you know what some people are like.
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092897
>>23092875
i know that you can't tell me to buy, or you'll get banned right?
i can tell you to do anything, but not the other way around, right?

i can tell you to buy that game, but you can't tell me to buy it.
Anonymous Belgium No.23092898
>>23092895
man what a dumbass, totally not worth even trying. i heard it's a really shitty trip, intensely uncomfortable with a lot of nausea and physical discomfort
there was a time when people got accused of witchcraft and burnt alive just for having it on their property
Anonymous United States No.23092899
>>23092864
Upvoted
Anonymous Finland No.23092900
>>23092883
That might work, although the area is already so large I'd need quite a lot of those traps. I'll have to see if it's doable.
Anonymous Canada No.23092901 >>23092904
>>23092877
>I might try some salads and kale
These might benefit if you have around 17 hours of sunlight during summer, in fact they may be ready early.
Anonymous Georgia No.23092902 >>23092903 >>23092960
My fantasy, is drone-dropping a shitload of Japanese Knotwood seeds in my neighbour's garden across the street. I'm too scared to actually do it though, in case I accidentally get some on my own property or any of the other neighbours who aren't cunts.
Anonymous Georgia No.23092903 >>23092921
>>23092902
forgot pic
Anonymous Finland No.23092904
>>23092901
That sounds promising, I think at these latitudes we get something like 19 hours around midsummer.
I still might have to build cold frames for them to stop pests from eating them before I can.
Anonymous United States No.23092905
>>23092874
>>23092875
Tons of them around the Kansas City area . Or well Osage and elderberry, possibly mulberry. Fun fact Osage orange tree has the hottest burning wood in the world. Also huge spikes grow off that tree.
Anonymous Sweden No.23092906
>>23092821
Why? Why not use bluerries, crowberry or juolukka? Lingonberry wine sounds gross. If you infuse vodka with lingonberry it might be decent.
Anonymous United States No.23092907 >>23092910
>>23092798
>cat grab meme
you are brown
Anonymous United States No.23092908
>>23092864
Jesus christ, even growing vegetables is considered such an act of resistance now I have to start a folder for the memes.
Anonymous United States No.23092909
>released praying mantis eggsacks to control small bitch ass insects that eat my plants
>one lives in my coleus now and I see him every day
>feelsgodman.jpeg
>pic rel
Anonymous Canada No.23092910 >>23092912
>>23092907
Thanks for reminding me
Anonymous Sweden No.23092911 >>23092913 >>23092914
>>23092874
I never tasted a mulberry, are they any good?
Anonymous United States No.23092912
>>23092910
No problem, now the charge is $3.50 + Tip
Anonymous Canada No.23092913
>>23092911
If you like raspberries/blackberries, you will like it
Anonymous United States No.23092914
>>23092911
Somewhere between a mild grape and a mild blackberry. They can get REALLY sweet on certain trees if the year goes well but a lot of people make jams and other things to concentrate their specific flavor a little more.
Anonymous United States No.23092915 >>23092917
>>23092792 (OP)
a deer/deers ate all the leavea off my sweet potatoes last night, the vines are still there but no leaves. are they gonna die?
Anonymous United States No.23092916 >>23092918 >>23092931 >>23092936
>>23092891
My trees aren't doing too badly though.
Anonymous Georgia No.23092917
>>23092915
They have no way to perform photosynthesis. The leaves are its solar panels. I'm sorry.
Anonymous Georgia No.23092918 >>23092971
>>23092916
>tree
What species?
Anonymous Hungary No.23092919 >>23092926
>>23092792 (OP)
I have two clusters of mature medlar trees, but I don't like eating them
Anonymous Hungary No.23092920 >>23092924
>>23092804
They can be grown even from spores directly, inoculating some sterilized grain in jars but due to the draconian shit drug laws Jewban introduced i wouldn't even think about growing them now
Anonymous Hungary No.23092921 >>23092924
>>23092903
> japanese knotweed
Is this shit good for anything anyway?
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092922 >>23092925
>>23092808
Pears are already ripening here.
My figs are doing well despite my cherries failing.
The council obliterated all the hedgerow fruit as always.
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092923
>>23092850
We need to reforest the moors.
Anonymous Georgia No.23092924
>>23092920
Yeah it's not something I'd be sharing with anyone not super close to me. I'd try the better methods but haven't found the right headspace to use my last lot yet. Life's too been too hectic.

>>23092921
It's good if you want to take thousands off the value of your property. Incredibly difficult to get rid of. In bongistan it's illegal to sell property without disclosing its presence to the buyer, and can cost a small fortune and literally years to get rid of.
Anonymous Canada No.23092925 >>23092939
>>23092922
Fuck them. May their useless grass turn brown
Anonymous Canada No.23092926 >>23092927
>>23092919
Why not? Don't like the texture?
Anonymous Hungary No.23092927 >>23092928 >>23092941
>>23092926
neither it's taste nor it's texture. I tasted it few times but never able to finish a single whole fruit
Anonymous Canada No.23092928 >>23092930
>>23092927
You're waiting until they are soft, right? You basically have to wait until it looks spoiled and then it's like eating applesauce.
Anonymous Finland No.23092929 >>23092934 >>23092944 >>23092953
>>23092792 (OP)
nice to see this thread again.
>>23092821
I eat these raw, I don't even make jam anymore I just eat them straight up raw.

People should look more into rowanberry. Nobody uses it but it's literally free and very easy to gather. FULL of vitamins and you can make jam, drink the juice, marmalade, you can dry them, you can also make mead out of them. Normalize rowanberry usage.
Anonymous Hungary No.23092930 >>23092935
>>23092928
yes, I have always waited unil it's soft. My grandma planted those trees and she ate them. I am going to have a few kg presumably this year, but I might incorporate them into some jam or something
Anonymous Finland No.23092931
>>23092916
the jew fears the indoor tree farmer
Anonymous United States No.23092932 >>23092937
>>23092792 (OP)
Medieval people called these "open arse"
Anonymous United States No.23092933 >>23092938 >>23097201
>>23092793
We've tried San Marzano tomatoes for the past couple years. Very overrated strain of tomatoes. They grow well enough, but only fruit once for the season. The tomatoes are kind of small and it takes a lot of plants to produce a good crop.

Try planting heirloom strain Polish paste tomatoes. They produce fruit for the entire growing season and if your plants are healthy they will produce large and healthy tomatoes. They are very good for preservation (canning and sauce making) and also taste quite good right off the vine. IMO find yourself a strain of tomatoes that fruit for the entirety of their growing season and produce flavors / yields that you want.

Leave the San Marzano's to the Italians.
Anonymous Canada No.23092934 >>23092945
>>23092929
It's nice to see you again too, Anon.

Have you tried sea buckthorn?
Anonymous Canada No.23092935 >>23092944
>>23092930
The default answer is make jam or pies.
Anonymous India No.23092936 >>23092940 >>23092971
>>23092916
Citrus?
Anonymous Canada No.23092937 >>23092957
>>23092932
One nickname is "the dog's ass fruit". Not super appealing sounding, but it's actually good.
Anonymous Canada No.23092938 >>23092946
>>23092933
Speaking of tomatoes, what food mill do you guys use for getting the seeds?
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092939 >>23092942
>>23092925
Ok, no, nature depends on ecosystem and I’m not exactly a fan of being surrounded by urban deserts because it leads to poverty and dependency.
Anonymous Canada No.23092940 >>23092951
>>23092936
I'd hate to do this when I want to ask for your input since you guys have all sorts of weird fruits that we have never heard of in the west, but...

... Your ID says Ass
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092941 >>23092943
>>23092927
>not bletting quince

You aren’t supposed to eat them fresh. They’re an ingredient.
Anonymous Canada No.23092942 >>23092950
>>23092939
Clovers are objectively superior. They improve the quality of the soil, whereas grass clippings that people throw away are all nutrients that your yard doesn't get back.
FUCK grass.
The only grasses I like are things like wild rice, and that grows in the fucking water.
Anonymous Canada No.23092943 >>23092956
>>23092941
Quince is a different fruit. It's actually mostly unknown here, at least these days. Beautiful plant. It used to be grown a lot more in yards, but people tend to prefer fruit you just eat out of hand.
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092944 >>23092961
>>23092929
Another one in my orchard and I’ve made note of all the wild ones within my foraging range.
You got walnut trees?
>>23092935
Quince jelly sets itself too, used to make it in a cheese cloth on an upside down stools legs.
Anonymous Finland No.23092945 >>23092949
>>23092934
YES!
it grows wild on the coasts. I have picked wild berries. The juice is also sold in bottles and there's mead etc. sold in shops. It's very good, milder than rowanberry. Rowanberry is more accessible since it grows everywhere but it's not used, it's a branding/reputation thing.
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092946
>>23092938
Just the ones you eat work fine, you can throw a slice out a sandwich and it’ll grow.
Anonymous Unknown No.23092947
>>23092795
it's mostly an issue in wet weather, tomatoes like dry conditions
sage Italy No.23092948
>>23092793
What works for me every year in the same damn spot:
>FULL sun, south exposed
>manure before planting
>proper spacing between them, they must only barely touch at worst
>i don't prune them, or prune very lightly
>water in the early morning so the sun quickly dries them up

I noticed that watering them in the evening already caused blights and shit . Also rainy years might still be bad. It was generally moderately dry here for years now. You really don't want humidity anywhere near them
Anonymous Canada No.23092949 >>23092961
>>23092945
I don't have the room for it where I currently live (the trees get HUGE), but I might plant some when I get a larger plot somewhere (assuming it's the same zone). Not many fatty fruits that grow in the cold.
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092950 >>23092952
>>23092942
Yarrow. My front lawn is yarrow, my back lawn is native mixed meadow and I only cut it once a year to make hay for crimping. Stop memeing, I bet you don’t even eat your clover.
Anonymous India No.23092951 >>23092954
>>23092940
Here's my black jamun plant.
Anonymous Canada No.23092952 >>23092964
>>23092950
I plant clover for the soil and the bees.
Anonymous Finland No.23092953 >>23092955 >>23092961
>>23092929
It's fallen out of fashion as a berry I think.
My boomer parents used to make rowanberry-apple jelly every autumn but I haven't heard anyone using it for anything since then.
Shame, because that jelly was real superfood. Maybe I should ask for a recipe.
Anonymous Canada No.23092954 >>23092965
>>23092951
Never had it. Any good?
Anonymous Canada No.23092955
>>23092953
Do it! Who knows how much longer you'll get the chance?
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092956 >>23092958
>>23092943
Shit you’re right, I was brought up calling medlar by the wrong name.
It’s crazy that roses hawthorn and apples are all the same family.
Anonymous United States No.23092957 >>23092959
>>23092937
I saw a video on these, quince, bullace fruit, the red things they used before they had access to citrus, and a few others. I've been doing bonsai, I have a pear, a cherry, and a fig tree I'm waiting to style once the dormant season hits. I wanna do medieval fruit next
Anonymous Canada No.23092958
>>23092956
Saskatoons and aronia are also related to them.
Anonymous Canada No.23092959 >>23092962
>>23092957
If you like doing pruning/training, you could try your hand at a fruit wall.
Anonymous United States No.23092960 >>23092968
>>23092902
Remember the seed bomb threads from years ago?
Anonymous Finland No.23092961 >>23092963 >>23092970
>>23092944
It's too cold for walnut here. Oak survives but the acorns require processing so it's not being put to use either in any large quantities.
>>23092949
Yeah and they produce a LOT of berries. I think an actual northern permaculture plot basically requires it. It also helps that it ripens at the end of autumn. So the harvest season is lengthier if you have it.
>>23092953
Yeah it's a perfectly fine berry but people just dismiss it because it's so sour raw. (especially without freezing it first)
Anonymous United States No.23092962
>>23092959
Yeah, I love defoliating leaves and pinching coniferous buds, and watching the new growth cone in. My maple was green and burnt when I got it, I pinched all the leaves and everything came back super red. It also produced new buds that are much more vibrant red. I was thinking about doing a lattice wall for lavender and jasmine, I'll probably do a fruit wall
Anonymous Canada No.23092963
>>23092961
Have you tried a nannyberry, yet?
It's a viburnum, but it's actually sweet. It tastes like a mix of banana and prune.
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092964 >>23092966 >>23092973
>>23092952
Which is why I said stop memeing. My garden is filled with flowers nearly all year for the apiary, Dragon flies hunt from grasses which prevents pests. Homogenised environments are bad.
Anonymous India No.23092965 >>23092967
>>23092954
Yes, black jamun are very tasty. They thrive in subtropical climate. Pic related is Musa balbisiana. I don't like them, animal feed.
Anonymous Canada No.23092966 >>23092975
>>23092964
>My garden is filled with flowers nearly all year
Same. I'm slowly removing every bit of grass on the property and replacing it with things that don't SUCK.
Anonymous Canada No.23092967 >>23092974
>>23092965
How about goumi berry?
Anonymous Georgia No.23092968
>>23092960
No, I missed those. Please do tell though.
Anonymous United States No.23092969 >>23097210
bump
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092970
>>23092961
Ah, suck. You could try hazel?
Anonymous United States No.23092971 >>23092972 >>23092979
>>23092918
>>23092936
That's a kalamondin lime, I also have a miho wase satsuma, meyer lemon, xie shan mandarin, and a kishu mandarin tree.
There are also 3 kumquat trees, and two fig trees.
Anonymous Canada No.23092972 >>23092980
>>23092971
Very nice taste in citrus, friend.
I wonder what you would get if you mixed a kumquat with a pomelo.
Anonymous Latvia No.23092973 >>23092977
>>23092964
Make tea from that. Latvians do. It tastes awful, but that's ok.
Anonymous India No.23092974 >>23092976 >>23092981
>>23092967
I don't think i have ever tasted them. I also grow black sugarcanes, better than the regular sugarcanes, much sweeter.
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092975
>>23092966
Winter savory is another one still flowing masses.
I recommend woodruff as a border or anywhere under trees that struggle to grow. Smells great, composts itself, outcompetes any weed, flowers.
Marjoram and oregano also make good lawns, along with chamomile. But yarrow is a salad, a vegetable, and it makes so many seeds you can spread it anywhere. Plus it’s free along road sides.
Oh and colts foot.
Anonymous Canada No.23092976
>>23092974
That's cool. I occasionally see sugarcane in stores, but it's only the green ones. Have you ever tried making an alcohol from it?
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092977 >>23092978
>>23092973
But I already have nettles for tea, and string making :p
Anonymous Canada No.23092978 >>23092982
>>23092977
Do you have any wintergreen? It's such a pretty plant
Anonymous Georgia No.23092979 >>23092980
>>23092971
Fuck I would love to have the space for a collection like that.
Anonymous United States No.23092980
>>23092972
I think that's already been done before.
>>23092979
Space is definitely an issue, lots of my basement is just trees and grow lights.
Anonymous Sweden No.23092981
>>23092974
how do you process the sugarcane do make it eatable/drinkable?
Anonymous United Kingdom No.23092982
>>23092978
I wish, needs a more northern environment. Have a bilberry bush though.
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23092992
Guess who copped a ban on /pol/, lol
Anonymous (ID: g+mPWjfl) Georgia No.23093005 >>23093124
Oh well, was good while it lasted. Good growing, chaps; see you in the next one.
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23093124
>>23093005
Fruit leaf will strike again
Anonymous (ID: VnkSt/KP) United States No.23093186 >>23093341 >>23093345
/pol/ mods are such worthless niggers.
Anonymous (ID: 7TQ2+gTz) United States No.23093341 >>23093345
>>23093186
they need to make room for threads about troons and demoralization though!
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23093345 >>23093361
>>23093186
>>23093341
Everyone was getting along. Even the Indian guy was included. Can't have that.
Anonymous (ID: 7TQ2+gTz) United States No.23093361 >>23093375
>>23093345
/pol/ is a board of peace, just be nice
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23093375 >>23093400
>>23093361
>2016
Man, I hope dude is doing alright.
Anonymous (ID: 7TQ2+gTz) United States No.23093400
>>23093375
me too, people need their own spaces. it isn't fair to anyone to have them all jumbled up and trying to find a place to belong where nothing belongs.
Anonymous (ID: vDOc10Eb) Finland No.23093405 >>23093480
the jew fears the wholesome gardening thread
more xitter screencaps and AI ragebait instead!!
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23093480
>>23093405
The virgin slop peddler report spams.
Anonymous (ID: KNdrPbiB) Finland No.23095123 >>23095691 >>23096006
So this is where this ended up. It was the only thread worth reading in /pol/ and they decided to evict it?
Anonymous (ID: RZ0hVhOv) United Kingdom No.23095691
>>23095123
Politics is currently only urbanisation.
The fact that they voted us out is exactly why they produce urban deserts irl.
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23096006
>>23095123
"Everything is political" unless they don't like it
Anonymous (ID: AY9h4Ht3) Canada No.23096435 >>23097184
Moved to /bant/?
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23097184 >>23097187
>>23096435
Only threads that divide people and reinforce their learned helplessness are allowed.
Anonymous (ID: 2o03E9Jj) United States No.23097187 >>23097213
>>23097184
this
Anonymous (ID: 8MGG0Tr4) United States No.23097201
>>23092793
Proper plant nutrition, your soil probably has a nutrient deficiency
Also too much or too little water is a secondary possibility behind that >>23092933
San marzanos out side of specific regions in Italy are called Roma tomatoes
Anonymous (ID: 8MGG0Tr4) United States No.23097210
>>23092969
Relying on the research of others rather than doing your own is midwit cope
You can share research with other people you trust but this whole interconnected world is inundated with midwits and retards
Anonymous (ID: 8MGG0Tr4) United States No.23097213 >>23097233 >>23097237 >>23097290
>>23097187
Why do you guys trust pol for anything it’s the shill containment board
You guys need a new board or preferably website
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23097233 >>23097240 >>23097344
>>23097213
It's a good content aggregator about current events with just enough toxicity to keep normies away.
Anonymous (ID: 2o03E9Jj) United States No.23097237 >>23097336
>>23097213
i'm a /bant/ resident, i hate pol
Anonymous (ID: 2o03E9Jj) United States No.23097240 >>23097242
>>23097233
it's basically the collective unconscious of everyone, containing all the frustrations and everything
great place to run psyops and fuck people up mentally
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23097242 >>23097249
>>23097240
Me? Pfffft. I would never run a psyop.
Anonymous (ID: 2o03E9Jj) United States No.23097249 >>23097255
>>23097242
eheheh..

but yeah, i didn't mean you
i've read a bit about permaculture, i mean some of the older stuff
the design principles are great for tons of things
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23097255 >>23097266
>>23097249
Maybe they don't like the idea of it spreading because the concept of creating the ecosystem in order to get the desired result might activate some almonds.
Anonymous (ID: 2o03E9Jj) United States No.23097266 >>23097271
>>23097255
maybe, but honestly i think people give the jannies too much credit, most of the time
it's much more likely someone just saw the thread and photo & thought "yo wtf, this looks like a gardening blog thread or something, this doesn't go on pol" and moved it
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23097271 >>23097279
>>23097266
It's like when you try to discuss firearm laws on /k/, so they give you a ban and tell you to go to /pol/.
When you go to /pol/, they slap you with a ban and tell you to go to /k/.
Anonymous (ID: 2o03E9Jj) United States No.23097279
>>23097271
lol
feels like the site is run like some sort of rat maze, for the most part
Anonymous (ID: KNdrPbiB) Finland No.23097290 >>23097307
>>23097213
I think this would be more like /ck/ related stuff anyway. Let's go there.
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23097307 >>23097326
>>23097290
It's not, though. A lot of the stuff we grow isn't for cooking and the themes are political so they'll just tell us to go to /pol/.
Why the fuck would /ck/ give a shit about wartime survival gardens?
Anonymous (ID: KNdrPbiB) Finland No.23097326 >>23097357 >>23099576
>>23097307
I'm not growing food for wartime preparation, I'm growing it just to get something good to eat every once in a while.
Anonymous (ID: 8MGG0Tr4) United States No.23097336
>>23097237
Same
I think everyone hates pol including the jew shills that live there and have a morbid obsession with being criticized for legitimate reasons
Anonymous (ID: 8MGG0Tr4) United States No.23097344
>>23097233
> aggregator about current events
Shill media talking points, you deserve better than obsessing over jew narrative factories
You need to use your brain as your own narrative machine: the opposite of what they teach normies like you in school
Anonymous (ID: 2o03E9Jj) United States No.23097357
>>23097326
no reason you couldn't have two separate threads
Anonymous (ID: 1QHy2RY1) Canada No.23099576
>>23097326
No, and that's fine, but the purpose of the threads I'm making is really to get people farming so they survive. Perennials take a few years to get established, so even if they plant now they're cutting it close. That's why I'm focused on the faster stuff when making recommendations.