Thread 23133171

Im currently detoxing off the liquid jew and ive never felt so terrible before. How long is this going to last? Im on day 2 no alcohol.

>>23133171 (OP)
you should try crack

>>23133171 (OP)
Down instant coffee replace one addiction with another it's the only way

You’re past the worst of it. Keep it up

>>23133171 (OP)
Forever.
Look up kindling effect.
Told you about
"taper and replace"!
Did you think I was just going on and on
for my own fucking health?

>>23133173
Coffee and any kind of speed is the absolute worst advice for someone already shaky and irritable from alcohol WDs
No need to jump out a 10 floor window proving to strangers online or in the rooooms
So gay
how hardcore you are.
Take the stairs.
One at a time

Smaller changes are easier to keep

>>23133171 (OP)
keep going fren, the first 2-3 days are the worst.
drink water/rose hip tea
take 600mg NAC
and try to sleep

good luck fren

Sugar, wheat. Keeps your candida from throwing you into herxheimer.

>>23133171 (OP)
How long were you drinking?

>>23133171 (OP)
Takes time to get the slop out of your system...give it time.

>>23133171 (OP)
>>23133174
Almost, i would say one or two more days and you should be gucci, make sure you have enough phosphates so you dont spaz out

you’re almost there.
if you have any benzodiazepines I’d take a couple of those until your over the worst.

>>23133171 (OP)
>muh feelings

you will cave, you are mentally weak

>>23133181
I need to eat but I keep throwing up

>>23133171 (OP)
day 2 - 4 are the worst honestly. i downed a 5th a day and then some for about 2 years straight after my dad got sick. and i had to balance welding with a steady hand... which led to my divorce, which led to another year. but when it came time to whipe my dads ass i had to detox too.. not even joking. i would say get a .5 klonopin/clonazepam twice a day maybe 3 times a day on a two week supply but you gotta be careful. cuz if you get hooked on benzos long term the withdrawal is worse than alcohol in my experience.. and you'll end up like jordan peterson. a fallen hero. an honorary jew *barf* . honestly just go to uur doctor ask for a week of low dose klonopin u shouldnt need more than a week. and u wont get a big tollerance from j ust a week. but even if you dont by day 5 you will start to feel better. been th ere several times fren. youu will b e fine. for me it was always day 5 i felt significantly better.

>>23133180
actually very based. if he holds strong after day five i think he will find his mind gets a lot more quiet, his anxiety and blood pressure subside significantly. and he will find it worth it .

>>23133183
>fun facts
are you a child?

how many languages do you speak?

you think you're better than people who are stronger than you - you are likely worse.

I started feeling better after about 3 months
Almost 3 yeara now

Alcohol is your friend. How can you abandon your friend?

>>23133184
try some cookiecrums with milk

>>23133171 (OP)
Just put the blinds down and sleep a lot bro

>>23133184
As long as you can keep fluids down you'll be OK. Stick to Gatorade and water until you can stomach solid foods

Days 3-5 are the worst. Buckle up hombre.

>>23133171 (OP)
how long have you been drinking steady? can't imagine what it would be like to drink heavy for weeks and months on end then quit. i never do more than 3 days in a row. just not worth it. take 5-6 day breaks or soemthing.

>>23133184
yo bro. on day s 3 - 5 you just might need a chill pill ask ur doc for like 5 low dose benzos and j u st telll him uur tapering off of boozze my doc is cool shed do that. but get electrolytes in you cuz ur gonna sweat a shit ton. so gatorade electrolyte drink get a bu ncha those. litterally non-addictive low dose benzos like klonopin and some electrolyte drinks for a week and then ur fine
super low dose and maybe not even a week's worth on the benzos tho. you wouldnt need them except days 3-7 anyway and if you do i think ur a coward for stopping drinking so much. th at would be hero portions like a gallon a day. like you had a blessed liver from black jesus but prolly lactose and got the cickle cell the anemia nigga rub some lotion and ivermectin on it type niggardly mutation of some sort.

>>23133171 (OP)
now it's the perfect time to get into crossfit

>>23133171 (OP)
A week or so, depending on how much of an alky you were. Your body's gonna crave sugar. Just go with it and drop the weight, later on.

I dont get how people can become alcoholics. Alcohol is such a shitty drug, it just makes you dizzy nauseous and sloppy.
I can totally understand meth or heroine addicts, that stuff actually feels good.
Heroine and meth are S tier and alcohol is D tier, might as well be huffing glue

>>23133171 (OP)
Bad part will be over soon anon. It will probably take months before you have a steady "normal" again. Just roll with it and hang in there.

>>23133199
for me, i just had a shitty situation and would use it too often to notice. starts slow. just wanted to unwind . turns from weekends to some weekdays to boom because ur body is dependent and u gotta function then it just increaseas in amount . its shitty. i feel sympathy for people who get trapped in it cuz i know how bad it is. just getting to comfortable with drinking and forgetting you cand do it to the point of getting 'drunk' multiple times a week then ur body and mind get dependent.

>>23133171 (OP)
I'm in day 4 now doing it alone at home but I did it so many times this one is not so hard at all.
My only pills I have besides basics is pic related and it works very well to make my body and mind calm.
I just play all the day videogames so I can force my mind on something.
Normally after 10 days the body is completely detoxificated.
Always drink lots of water and get you some pills for sleeping, sleep recovers you the best.
If you can't get pills like distraneurin or diazepam then you can only sit it out.
After the 4th night the worst should he over and every day will become better.

>>23133171 (OP)
At least 3 days after that it's takes time but give it ten days.

>>23133171 (OP)
2-5 days depending on how bad you were drinking. I usually have to go 3 day taper first then sober, you will feel better after about a week but some symptoms take a lot longer to go away. I'm 3 months sober and still have sweaty hands and feet.

>>23133171 (OP)
You'll start feeling better in a few days.

.t haven't had q drop since April

>>23133171 (OP)
Gym will fix it unironically

>>23133179
This. If he was a heavy drinker for many years, he should taper off slowly.

>>23133171 (OP)
fren, when you have finally sobered up and can agree whole heartedly with the following statement(We admitted we were powerless over alcohol–that our lives had become unmanageable.) Come see us in AA. 5 years sober and shitposting from work kek

>>23133171 (OP)
Your metabolism is adapting. DO NOT change your diet or habits, beyond taking some aspirin and literally chicken soup until you feel better.

>>23133207
If he's already on day 2 and puking all the time then he should continue.
Next day the puking will stop and get better.
Taking now some alcohol would slow down the detox.

>>23133171 (OP)
you've been cunted cunt

I went 8 month sober and just relapsed last week because I wanted to celebrate some good news.

Taking all the vitamins and especially magnesium is very important too.

>>23133176
Replacing alcohol with weed sounds crazy desu. Just be sober at that point.

totally cunted

>>23133211
Could you elaborate for us of lesser mental acuity? I feel like there is deep wisdom behind this post

>>23133208
Do AA fags really "struggle" indefinitely? When I went from daily drinking to not it was like a switch and I went back to mostly disliking alcohol except to be retarded in social settings. What do you even do for that long?

>>23133206
Retard.
His SYS DIA PUL is guaranteed already sky high. It would be the worst to make anything except being in the bed as calm as possible

>>23133199
Alcohol numb boredom.
Life is boring.

>>23133171 (OP)
I’m 18 months sober the first week is the hardest. Depending on how long and how much you been drinking it can take up to 6 months to get back to normal but the worst is over if you can make it to 7 days.
The issue with that is you start feeling better after a week and your brain can trick you into drinking then you got to start the process all over again.

>>23133216
all cunts eventually get the cunts they cunt
its literal cunty 101, cunt

>>23133199
>I dont get how people can become alcoholics.
Drops prefrontal cortex activity until you stop caring about complex problems and start finding moronic shit enjoyable. You know how black people and retards are always happy? Same deal.

>>23133217
We don't struggle at all, the key for us that have been sober awhile is to help the newcomer quit the liquid jew. We give the gift that we were given.
I have met preachers, rabbi,Doctors,lawyers and police in aa. It's a cross section of America with bad genes. I fought alcohol for years before giving up and trying AA. It has been the best decision I've ever made besides having kids.

>>23133171 (OP)
the worst symptoms occur within the first 24-48 hours usually, so

>>23133171 (OP)
Alcohol is easy maybe a couple weeks at most, caffeine is much harder, when I quit caffeine I used to chug beers to avoid the way I felt, then a few years later I just stopped drinking with barely even a second thought. I wasn't a daily drinker though, if you are then I dunno you may need to seek medical help as you're addicted

>>23133171 (OP)
First 30 days are hard, then it starts getting easier. If you want inspiration look up books on ex-addicts kicking the habit or people on youtube who've turned their life around and how great they feel

You'll probably get sugar cravings so watch out for those, best stick to having a routine with a diet. Maybe oatmeal, rye bread or brown rice to get "healthier" carbs in

>>23133184
you will need another source of GABA supplementation until your body adjusts to not having the alcohol, there are a variety of options out there

>>23133226
>>23133171 (OP)
two weeks. Allow yourself to eat as much sugar crap as you want.

>>23133228
It's not good to replace a bad habit with another which is why I pointed out the cravings specifically. When you recognize them just have some porridge or eat some rice with broccoli & chicken

>>23133225
caffeine cold turkey is worse, depending on how hard you mainlined caffeine, however caffeine is much easier to taper off of

>>23133229
>It's not good to replace a bad habit with another
True, which is why you should replace one bad habit with three bad habits and then cycle those habits daily. Three weak habits are much easier to break than one strong one.

I call this the "Three Stooges Method".

>>23133230
Caffeine is a total joke and just gives you a little headache and makes it harder to sleep.
From alcohol detox you can literally die, get seizures and fall in a delirium.
Comparing those 2 is ridiculous.
Stopping eating sugar is the same as caffeine and both is easy to do.

>>23133229
I just use it as a crutch during the first couple weeks. After that I usually get back into fitness. But if you are the type of person who would keep eating tons of sugar moving forward you might not want to.

>>23133171 (OP)
If you start shaking uncontrollably call an ambulance, The DT's can kill you. Other than that though, you'll feel better by the end of the week, and you'll feel great in 2 to 3 weeks.

>>23133172
New crack lite!(tm)

>>23133171 (OP)
Take methylene blue and NAC. Clears you right out.

>>23133214
weed apart from giving high also reduced physical pain and helps eat normally
small doses of dxm help to reduce tolerance/dependance on various substances
and there's ibogaine but it might get you into coma

>>23133171 (OP)
>day 2
Thats nothing. any addiction is 90 days minimum.
Have some fucking patience

>>23133183
What is "Books on Tape" for 500 Alex?

>>23133171 (OP)
Stop detoxing at home like an eskimo and go get some benzos retard.
Tell the voices i said hi

>>23133239
They've already selected the dollar amount before guessing

>>23133223
Good, I'm glad you're free fren.

>>23133171 (OP)
Doesn't matter how long it takes.

All you have to do is make it till the end of today. That's it. Don't worry about anything else. Shit that may or may not happen doesn't matter. Just make it to the end of today.

>>23133214
Its not. Replacing weed with alcohol is whats retarded. Alcohol is far more dangerous, and weed is an easy transition.

Im not arguing that you should quit alcohol and just be stoned 24/7. But smoking hash at critical times is the only thing keeping me from alcohol, and it has been surprisingly easy since i picked up weed a year ago.

>>23133184
You're going through withdrawals, classic symptoms.

You can expect to be completely free of the symptoms after 4-5 more days, OP.
In that time you should make sure youre getting electrolytes and carbohydrates.
Eat some plain baked bread during your recovery to soak up the chemicals that are dislodging themselves from your organs as your body begins to heal. Eating on a loaf of bread with gatorade sips and a long TV marathon is how I beat the liquid jew. I had been drinking bottle of skyy vodka every afternoon for 1 full year and it only took me 6 days to get over it completely, just walk away from it and resent it for wasting your time and wrecking your body.

>>23133171 (OP)
Lad you are meant to take NALTREXONE instead of rawdogging it, also the thing you were going to take anyway if you had cirrhosis, spare yourself the Alcoholics Anonymous meetings, take it and never look back. It's probably prescription-only in the US of A so ring up any Doctor acquaintance you have. Either way you are doing an amazing work mate, keep it up.
There are some other horrible withdrawals like those of SSRIs, you don't rawdog those either but take serotonin blockers like cyproheptadine or mirtazapine to offset the deadly amounts of serotonin that were running amok in one's body for the entire duration of the """therapy"""".

>>23133171 (OP)
taper out, don't go cold turkey. drink only like 3 beers when you get the urge. you will lapse but don't start drinking every day again. don't go to AA, it's like building a shrine to your addiction and you'll never get out. what I did was going one step at a time going from 1 day without alcohol, drinking, then to 2 days without alcohol and so on until I was able to go a week without a single drink. after that it gets easier

>>23133246
I went to the ER and got blood work and im fine I just had a wake up call a couple days ago I got really really depressed and went overboard drinking

>>23133171 (OP)
for me it was around 2 weeks with peak around 4th day
now I'm alcohol free for 2.5year

You will make it m8, I believe in you

>>23133171 (OP)
try 6 months and eat only meat, vegetables, and brown bread, and drink only water.
Guaranteed you will feel way better than before. You'll have so much energy you might even go for a quick sprint every day. For now, I'd just wait it off before getting into drastic physical activity, try walking 30minutes or up to 6 hours if you are really committed, or if you get bored find a hobby like skipping rope, dancing, or rollerblading.

>>23133247
ive heard that about AA and the method you're talking about just works. more gaps between drinking days and try not to drink too heavily when you do.
i knew a guy who went a few times but got sick of having to keep saying 'im an addict' all the time. he was like 'no, im not. i was, but im free now' etc. constantly saying that you're an addict doesn't seem healthy.

>>23133171 (OP)
Depends on how much you used to drink. Feeling terrible is better than shakes and cold sweats and if people like that could kick it so can you anon. You got this, good job.

>>23133214
Weed unironically makes you feel way worse than alcohol

>>23133171 (OP)
If you can make it past day 4 you're pretty much in the clear.

Thanks everybody

>>23133255
take care bud. keep you mind busy while you're feeling anxious and strange and it'll pass. keep reminding yourself that everything is actually ok. i just read books all day. ever read the original fleming James Bond novels? they're pretty good.

>>23133176
they call it "california sober" for a reason
because its fucking gay

>>23133252
I get pretty bad sweats at night and I feel dizzy walking around. Im at work currently it feels inhumane lol. But I have rent to pay so I got to

Do you feel itchy yet?

>>23133310
Not really.

>>23133319
My good friend is an alcoholic and today was the first time in weeks where he didn't drink. He said he was getting "nerve iches" whatever that means.

>>23133171 (OP)
Did you quit cold Turkey? How much were you drinking before? Are you being tapered with benzos?
I need this info to give an answer

>>23133332
I went cold turkey after a bad three day bender but I think the root cause is me being depressed and while I did pretty much drink every day (mostly id buy 4 deep eddy's shooters after work. Drink them all then go to a bar and drink beer and tequila shots) I had a moment of clarity and realized booze was not helping so I made a decision to stop it. I might drink again in the future idk but im just tired of poisoning myself and I think ive had enough fun drinking. And dont get me wrong alcohol can be very introspective at times but the bad very outweighs the good in the long run.

>>23133352
Id need to know how many units of alcohol you were drinking and for how long.
1 standard unit = 10ml of pure ethanol.
Figure it out from the percentage and how many shots you were drinking.
If its been more than like a week and a bit of drinking every day you probably need medical supervision and benzos.
Do not take this lightly, quitting alcohol cold turkey can and will kill you if you are physically addicted. If you have been shaking badly and feeling shit go to hospital.

>>23133352
You are most likely to have a seizure in the first 48 hours so if its been more than that its less urgent but still advisable to at least talk to a doctor or at the very least not be alone

>>23133571
he only drank for 3 days anon. you're being a bit melodramatic

>>23133608
Oh I understood what he wrote as he had been drinking consistently for a while and then had a particularly heavy Bender.
If hes only been drinking 3 days straight he just needs to take it easy for another day or 2 and hell be fine

>>23133715
well maybe i misunderstood it and you got it right. but yeah, a 3 day just needs a quiet day or two and you're good again.

>>23133608
Well I drank every day for who knows how long but this bender really got the best of me. But im taking steps to better myself I think I even made this thread just to vent but you all actually helped and gave good advice and I appreciate that

>>23133943
yeah i got the wrong idea. see what you were saying now. glad the thread helped pal. take some breaks is all i can recommend. maybe switch to more beer instead of high proof. seems to trouble the body less. take care

>>23133954
Im just going to hunt for a new vice lol. Maybe ill do the stereotypical sober white guy thing and start running or buy a bike.

>>23134001
i used to ride a bike long distance. really got me fit and felt great all the time from the endorphins etc lol. riding bikes up long steep hills is an amazing workout. with i lived near mount evens in CO lol. hope you get into something anyway mate. not having something is when we start drinking

>>23133943
Ok if you drank consistently then you should at the very least not be on your own. If you were not drinking heavily every day you might be ok but quitting alc cold turkey is very risky buisiness and I would never advise someone to do it.
However if you have managed to get through the first 48 hours without shaking really badly or any seizures you are probably most of the way out of the woods as far as potentially fatal effects. If you are shaking more than like a tiny bit you should head to hospital immediately as your life is at risk.
I wish you good luck and its great you had a moment of realisation that has motivated you to quit because getting off any substance that way is significantly more sustainable than going it because of something like an intervention.
Godspeed anon

>>23134001
Just dont do what I did which was switching to opiods lol

>>23134116
Oh im not alone I have a girlfriend i live with and I have a job and a close friend group. Who were all very concerned about me the past few days. I pretty much had a mental breakdown i guess for lack of a better term. And I dont believe in AA I went to an AA meeting like 10 years ago just to support a friend who was going through it and the first guy to talk was talking about he drank whiskey then started smoking spice and then went and bought Crack lol I immediately thought "ooo some people have real problems" I dont do any other drugs but drink and smoke weed every now and then. But yeah I haven't been shaking as bad as yesterday yesterday was rough. So I think im getting like my one chance to fix shit before I end up fucking everything up.

>>23134123
I was surprised to learn how bad opiates were in the UK I thought you guys were more into RCs and Ecstasy or I guess its molly capsules nowadays.

>>23134296
Yeah man fuck AA I quit everything on my own. It does seem to help certain people though. Glad ur not on ur own, if the shaking gets worse dont wait to have a seizure go to hospital.
>>23134307
Its a completely seperate scene. You are thinking of what is basically the party scene, junkies and the party scene rarely overlap. Probably the most common drugs are weed/spice, benzos and opioids but the party scene gets more media attention because its all middle class kids.
Its gotten really bad recently with nitazenes (rc opioids waay stronger than fent) being sold as smack, basically nothing sold on the street is real heroin anymore and ppl are dropping like flies. Zenes are also showing up in random shit too so its not just junkies dying.
Im glad I stopped before that was a huge issue.

>>23133171 (OP)
I'm also on day 2, but I would just drink 4-18 beers a day. I tapered off with sticking to just 4 a day for a while and now I'm just experiencing a moderate headache.

>>23134491
>Its gotten really bad recently with nitazenes (rc opioids waay stronger than fent) being sold as smack, basically nothing sold on the street is real heroin anymore and ppl are dropping like flies. Zenes are also showing up in random shit too so its not just junkies dying.
jesus christ

ty for the post anon

>>23134797
These are becoming very common in the States also btw. Warn anyone you know who uses any kind of drugs because they end up in shit you wouldnt expect such as party drugs. Lots of ppl in the states test their stuff with fentanyl test strips and these do not detect zenes. The most common zenes are like 10x stronger than fent so even people with high fent tolerances can easily OD from zenes.
Reagent tests are useless, however test strips for nitazenes are a thing but they are not commonly avalible in the States yet. They are probably avalible online though.

Day 3 still alive