Thread 23148161

>>23148161 (OP)
>You get humiliated for trying
>You get ridiculed for not trying
Men have it so easy.

no point to make a move if there's no mutual attraction. Or if your crush tells you about her recent drunk orgies with chad...

>>23148161 (OP)
If a woman likes you, she will pursue you. If she doesn't, not even giving your life to her will change her mind. The best move is to not move

>>23148161 (OP)
> crush
You have to be over 18 to post here

>>23148161 (OP)
>their crush
Fucking grow up you rancid cunts

>>23148164
Simple but eternal wisdom

>>23148161 (OP)
incel isn't even a real word you cannot be involuntary of a voluntary action it's just nigger for all males

>>23148161 (OP)
oh I attack the girlies, often, like once a week I go thru the roster of cutipies
some say yes

>>23148167
Made sense for me back then still does

>>23148161 (OP)
>implying I have a crush

>>23148161 (OP)
Yea, false assumptions.
He estimates the outcome as being unfavorable doesn't mean the outcome will be favorable though.
The problem is that if he doesn't try he won't get experience and skill in these types of things.

Thing is these days you have all sorts of distractions and women are boring and demanding and at moody just so they feel better about themselves whenever they push you away or shit test you.

Basically the dude is like
>Nah, I'd rather do other things, I'm not playing this game.

>>23148161 (OP)
Sounds like your Crush got Turkish blend.

>>23148161 (OP)
>your crush
IMPLYING you can have a honest, romantic crush for anyone in todays society. While I see hot girls daily it's been decades since i've known someone I'd genuinely would want in my life.

>>23148164
Also this. The biggest skill in approaching women is figuring out beforehand if she has already subconsciously accepted you. At that point you can basically do anything and it'll seal the deal. The most miserable relationships are those where the male somehow has domesticated a woman which subconsciously doesn't consider them as dad material.

>>23148164
Social media makes the grass seem greener on the metaphorical other side.

>>23148161 (OP)
If cold approaching was a natural behaviour for humans then men wouldn't have a problem with it because the men who did have a problem wouldn't have reproduced. It's a behaviour that goes against human instincts forced upon us by a deeply unnatural society.

>>23148161 (OP)
MEN ARE NOT EATING OUR POISON OR WALKING INTO OUR TRAPS! WHY ARE YOU SO INVOLUNTARY CELEBATE?

>>23148161 (OP)
90% of women are invisible to me. I only approach stacies, the problem is however I rarely see them.

>>23148161 (OP)
Sounds like they have self-esteem issues

>>23148179
Yes, it's an issue they have self-esteem and your society says people are disposable.

VERY EVIL.

>>23148161 (OP)
Say hello and they tell you their dead boyfriend was taller than you!

>>23148181

Women blow each other up into wanting marriage, then they blow each other up into wanting divorce, AND THAT IS HOW IT HAPPENS. Marriage is NEVER about the man and the woman. That's why the Government is there. The GOVERNMENT pays women to get divorced. Government streamlined the system to insure MEN pay the judges, lawyers, costs, EVERYTHING. Your wife can still put you in jail whenever other women tell her to. Women have no concept of "valuing men as people." "Men are disposable." they say. MARRIAGE DOES NOT EXIST. DO NOT GET MARRIED.
There is a BIG push on social media to say false SA claims do not hurt men. Things are getting MORE dangerous, the government will be used to punish ALL men more and more as time goes on.

>>23148161 (OP)
Lets once again forget that men were taught from birth that if they do this its sexual assault. The latest psyop are the female undercover joggers arresting men for even staring this time in UK. We get it, you dont want our attention unless we are attractive, which apparently is only 5% of the population. Not interested in these ego games, you either drop an obvious hint which leaves no room for confusion or fuck off.

>>23148161 (OP)
No point in making a move if you're ugly
Women all have the same taste in men
They all want tall handsome athletic Chads
So if you're not a Chad, it's just pointless

>>23148161 (OP)
>crush
A guy putting pussy on the pedestal is giving us advice.

>>23148164
I've only ever had 1 GF way back in highschool so I really don't know much about girls. But she is still the one who made the first move. It was obvious as shit too. Because she was like
>yeah I like someone in class but I'm not going to tell you whoooo

>>23148183
They still want you to pay for women, though. If not in dating, you pay your taxes.

THAT'S why men don't want to work. If you're going to pay women all the money to stand there, they can do all the work you need for all the pay you'll pay them.

>>23148161 (OP)
stop being a faggot, just do this +
grab 'em by the pussy, you can do anything

>>23148182
They will eventually kill us all

>>23148184
"MEN SHOULD RISK JAIL FOR VAGINAAAAAaaaaaa!!!!!!! GIVE WOMEN YOUR MONEY FOR EXISTING!"

Seriously, why are they talking?

>>23148161 (OP)
women will post memes about men not approaching them because women need to reject men to validate themselves and will still feel depressed anyway

>>23148187
They need as much money in the females pocket since they make 80% of the purchases. Then they need to psyop women into a culture of hedonistic spending to keep the economic engine going. This has already been happening for a few generations. Maybe one day they will learn to look away from Lilith's mirror and do some actual self reflection.

>>23148161 (OP)
God I miss cigs

>>23148161 (OP)
just legalize prostitution and the school shootings will end - it’s that simple

seriously if you’re a touchless virgin at 19 and you’re staring down the barrel of 60 more years like that you’re going to snap

I’ve been married for 16 years and always had it easy with women but my best friend growing up was like 5’5” and women were repulsed by him.

If he could have just paid for a quickie though his shit would have been fine - every issue he had with women stemmed from his virginity

I tried to set him up so many times, up and down the spectrum of girls but it was just too fucking late.

Women are the overton window.

>>23148185
"FOLLOW MY ADVICE AND YOU'LL GET SEX! YOU TOO CAN MARRY A SINGLE-MOTHER OF 6 WITH 6 BABY-DADDIES! THEN YOU MIGHT GET PITY SEX AT LAST!"

>>23148161 (OP)
I did, turns out she's got a kid

>>23148191
They have to blame men for everything they do to themselves. "It's men's fault I've collected millions by getting dicks in every hole!"

>>23148196
just be like a lion and kill the kid so she can take care of yours better

>>23148192
They keep seeing magical results from their best friend, "MY MAKEUP MIRROR!"

"It gives me the best attention and validation!"

>>23148178
Zwomen hate that immature ass, I have a cure and you will not like it

>>23148198
ALL: women have the "government giant man-rape tranny" on their side.

The worst she can say is no

>>23148202
Say that after you spend 30 years in jail for a false SA charge.

The laws did not change.

>>23148161 (OP)
>Get shit on for trying
>Get shit on for not trying
Lol. Lmao even.
>Crush
Kill yourself while you still haven't experienced the horrors of adulthood in a slave pen.

>>23148164
only problem is, for her to pursue you means she looked at you, or flicked her hair or some shit lol
women were a mistake

>>23148161 (OP)
Because they understand.
If you make no moves, you ARE meant to be alone.

>>23148161 (OP)
Most incels are not completely dumb.
They know they are undesirables. Duh.

Stop playing stupid, it's tiresome.

Also yes I know this is not a genuine thread

>>23148202
That's probably what my brother thought before he was falsely accused of rape and put on the list and was fucked over by his own public defender who tricked him into a plea deal for probation by withholding the fact that the prosecutor had zero evidence and no DNA and every paycheck he had was squeezed from the government to take sex offender classes he didn't need which made it impossible for him to pay for a place to live which put him on the street before he took his own life. It can happen to you too.

>>23148204
Men aren't even allowed to complain about unfair divorce laws that put men in jail for trying to pay the bills.

Trying gets you crushed. You get attacked for protecting yourself.

>>23148206
Then they can get 5% of men to pay their bills by begging. Regular men are not even playing in that society.

Men have better things to do than current-day society.

>>23148164
tpbp
Any relationship I've ever seen that lasted or still got on great years down the line was where the female went after the male.
All the cold approach PUA crap or even just where the male had to "woo" the female, all those relationships ended or were short lived.

>>23148207
"Strong and independent don't need no man." will let you see the rich men you want and maybe get a pump and dump. Those guys will pump trees with lashes, a wig and BBL, so they'll pump you too. However, "Strong and independent don't need no man." is only attractive to WOMEN. "Strong and independent don't need no man." is a LESBIAN trying to attract women. For men, "Strong and independent don't need no man." is pretty darn gay. It's how men act to men. We see men. Modern Feminism was started by a lesbian. That's what you're imitating, ladies. A lesbian.
We have established that men NATURALLY desire younger women. You can't out-idea nature. Nature always wins. Women would have to stop chasing rich men, first.
They don't.
Women fuck guys so they don't feel lonely, which makes them feel lonely. So, they fuck guys so they don't feel lonely, which makes them feel lonely.
They think with their feelings. What are they choosing?

>>23148164
If you are low-confidence you can miss out on what they consider pursuit. Most women just smile and look at you randomly and expect you to pick up on it. They may also touch you passively, like walk behind you and let their hand touch your butt, or play with their hair while talking to you. Occasionally they eyefuck you, where they basically beg for cock with their eyes. Those women are sluts though and are big problems so be careful.
Basically if a girl notices you at all she probably likes you. As I've gotten older, I've become basically invisible to younger girls.

>>23148207
knew an annon with a big dick, word got around, he fucked a lot and had fun
they would never marry him though,
he did not even ask, lacked money

>>23148213

Men and masculinity are a dog locked in a cage and shocked repeatedly and randomly until it just lies there. Not any one of us, but all of masculinity. Then you take the dog(masculinity) out of the cage and tell it to play ball? Are you joking? You throw a stick off a cliff and yell "FETCH!" That dog(masculinity) doesn't want the stick, it wants the cliff(men's extremely elevated self-end rate). Then you yell "Hey! You're supposed to fly!"
Maybe you should talk to Men.

It's "Influencers" who enable it:
------------
Work on yourself!
MAN UP!
Level up your life, bro!
Get your jerbs!
Make money!
GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY TO LEVEL UP, BRO!!!
Your reward is Ludzweilia, mother of six with six different baby-daddies!
She's good!
She's CHRISTIAN!
You're supposed to forgive her sin!
Enable the virtuous ensluttification!
$1,000 worth of clown makeup on a $10 face!
--------------
Women are trained by the government and mass-marketing to spend themselves into debt a man has to pay off. Good luck fighting that.

>>23148214
When you have a big dick no girls want you to put it in their butts, and the ones that do are whores and you cant feel anything.

Its a curse, truly

>women with no boyfriend are too low self esteem to show interest in guys they like
>women with boyfriends are out flirting with every flesh and blood male in the room
Love from kazakhstan

Out of the fire is better than nowhere, where am I suppose to go if she took me heart

>>23148161 (OP)
Women are mainly attracted to men who show little to no interest in them.
They’re like cats the less you attempt to pet them early the closer they will move to you to you and the quicker they will allow you to pet them.
If you can be completely at ease around them and just have conversations with them where you treat them like you would a guy it’s only a matter of time before they offer you their pussy.

>>23148161 (OP)
Literally me

Why are men asking women out anyways? Shouldn't women be the ones to ask a man out instead? It is much safer for a woman to come up to a man than for a man to come up to a woman, is it not?
>But it would hurt her feelings
What is the worst a rejected woman will do? Cry for 5 minutes?
What is the worst a rejected man will do? Become the Supreme Gentleman and take out 20 people.
Think about it, which is safer?

>>23148165
jews stop maturing emotionally at age 5

>>23148164
Couldn't have said it better myself

>>23148216
The sad thing is, men forgot your penis only has to make YOU happy when you cum.

You should masturbate once a week to maintain your prostate health and reduce your cancer risk. Apparently you need to refresh things or all the environment toxins get stored in your supply and you need to expel the old and and stinky for fresh-made batter.

>>23148208
F

>>23148176
It is weird isn't it? Most normal people of old were in arranged marriages or setup with friends and family. Going out and finding some random woman is weird and unnatural. Even a lot of other people got together because they were in a capitive audience situation like being a wagie, being in school, or having to hang around someone for prolonged periods of time.

>>23148161 (OP)
>crush

>>23148227
Women only want men participating in a society that needs simps to slave for it.

>>23148164
>First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the women.
As much as women say they want to be chased and pursued, they actually like to "hook and lock down" a man to feel like it's their choice - this is correct.

Become something women want, then they will chase (You). Then you'll realize how shallow and boring they are, and take the gaypill.

>>23148162
Yeah, easy cause it's predictable. No matter what you do you will be degraded. Once you accept that, learning to not care becomes much more straightforward.

>>23148161 (OP)
modern women are strong and independant, they have to make the first move

>>23148230
It's not gay to choose survival over sex.

>>23148161 (OP)
If you want to get a girlfriend start passionatelly doing something that is next to impossible with girlfriend around.
Somehow holes just fucking happen to be there.
Not even fucking joking this is how i met my wife.
>love muh solitude
>love going to the woods alone survivor roleplaying
>found most fucking desolate wood in my country
>fucking 3 women doing same shit as me but together
>they saw my campfire and came in their own
>married the smokeshow between them
no joke no larp

>>23148164
C’est correct

>>23148234
Women always want you more if you don't want them. You're then required to want them.

>>23148234
I've been passionately jerking off for hours every other day for the last 6 years and no woman has ever interrupted me.

>>23148237
They're scared of your one BIIIIIIG arm.

>>23148194
I don't comprehend why anyone would have any interest in using a prostitute. You are just paying a large amount of money to fuck a ugly old whore. Your hand does job just as well, and its free and not weird and gross.

>>23148237
That's your problem. Women can tell that your balls are empty and essentially infertile. If you walk around with a nutsack full of baby batter women will smell it and know that you're a candidate for sex.

>>23148240
Same reason why you should skip shower once in a while
if you girlfriend is intoxicated with your armpit stinksmell she is your perfect match

>>23148161 (OP)
why are feminists incapable of actually achieving anything?

>>23148239
Prostitution is the same as dating modern western women. You can be delusional and pretend in your "MAGICAL ANGEL MOMMY" that gave virgin-birth to you, but everyone who saw your conception knows your mom is a whore.

>>23148241
My ex used to love my armpits so much that she'd lick them, shit was tight. She was severely mentally ill though.

>>23148240
>women will smell it
For crying out loud...
If a woman is so naturalized with the scent of jizz she cabln identify trace amounts with her nose, that's a big nono. much rather preserve my virginity.

>>23148161 (OP)
Can't form a crush when you know she's taken cock, and doesn't think of you

>>23148245
I didn't mean literally. I meant she can tell from subtle mannerisms and what not. Also when you're full of cum everything starts to look more fuckable. It gives you drive.

>>23148161 (OP)
>Why are incels like this?

Because modern women are unapologetically cruel.

>>23148244
That's something only men do.
...
I think your ex had health problems.

This might be difficult to think about, but was your ex a nutter?

>>23148240
Well I kinda fibbed, in the last 6 months or so I been taking 7oh, a partial mu-opioid receptor agonist. This has been a boon so far and a side effect is a vastly lowered libido, so I haven't been gooning like usual, even skipped out last night. Noticed no difference if I jerked off 3 times that week with cum stains in my boxers or if I didn't jerk once and came in the office with new underwear, so it's not that.

>>23148162
Fpbp
Blame those MeToo cunts. They created this dynamic where guys simply don't stand a chance even if they try. Social media & those damn smartphones has made hoeflation out of control. Women should not be allowed on the Internet. Period.

>>23148239
they don't need to be ugly bro lol

>>23148161 (OP)
I need the confidence of a jeet and Brahmin/Jewish verbal IQ

>>23148247
>Also when you're full of cum everything starts to look more fuckable.

>I'LL PUT IT IN LUDZWEILA, MOTHER OF 6 WITH 6 BABY-DADDIES! SHE ONLY HAS 4 STD's.

1 in 3 women has an active, transferrable std. Simping will kill you.

1PBTI Greek INCEL strikes again!
Jannie never removes this nigger's threads.

>>23148249
She also ate ass, licked feet, and was prone to manic violent episodes. She had the sexual preferences of a submissive gay man but in a woman's body. Crazy bitch.

>>23148164
Problem is, the good ones are demure and timid. If you suddenly find yourself coming into attractiveness (via getting fit/rich/authority) you might think you have the pick of the litter but the ones pursuing you the hardest will ruin your life.

>>23148256
Wow. That's ten times worse than I imagined.

I'll downgrade women's worth. That's pretty bad when one women can lower the value of all women.

>>23148191
truthnuke, publically rejecting low value males is one of the only ways for mid females to increase their social capital

>>23148162
>you are physically weaker, statistically likely to be randomly selected for an attack/abduction/rape, and every sexual can give you a parasite that can kill you

>>23148161 (OP)
1pbtid

>>23148161 (OP)
Nigga I tried a thousand times and I was the one approaching all the time

>>23148161 (OP)
I suppose I should be flattered that I'm so hard to read, you're willing to go to these lengths just to see what I'll do. Well, barring storming into the office, throwing my own feces at administrative staff and demanding to see them, I can't really think of any further way to show I'm serious about this but also not completely retarded.

>>23148260
this was less of an issue when browns weren't as rampant as they are now

>>23148257
>?good ones?

This is what people mean when they say "men and women do not think the same."

>>23148161 (OP)
the female ego needs constant advances to sustain itself.
they are seething everywhere about men not approaching or catcalling them anymore
they don't want to go out with the men, they just want to reject them and get that sweet sweet ego boost

>>23148161 (OP)
and a man that makes no move on a woman isn't meant to be lonely? it literally is. also KIKES RAPE KIDS, TRUMP IS A PEDO, GLOWNIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS

>>23148260
What does that have to do with the OP? Are you saying that women should not approach or initiate courtship due to these concerns?

>>23148161 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=777vJrssQL8

>>23148260
>>23148268
If you are saying that, it would make for an interesting discussion, since it suggests that our enviornment is quite unsafe for dating, for both sexes

Guys making moves on women is creepy
In the modern environment, girls need to start being the initiators or else none of this is going to work, period. Step up ladies.

>>23148268
Women should not initiate because it's not their role. I'm sorry that you are so disconnected from what is natural and divine.

>>23148257
>If you suddenly find yourself coming into attractiveness (via getting fit/rich/authority)
Being rich or powerful doesn't make you attractive.
No woman has ever fantasized about Warren Buffett.
These people get wives obviously but their wives aren't attracted to them.

>>23148264
>>23148268
>humiliated

>killed
one was only a death sentence in 20 people societies.

>>23148270
Considering that every man is "guilty until evidence proves his innocence", unsafe is an understatement.

>>23148161 (OP)
we need to crush our western nations to defeat the globohomo, let's help russia win this thing!

>>23148276
No-one wants modern western women lesbians.

WOMEN don't want modern western women lesbians.

I bet you're not going to start saying shit again until I leave the state. Gaslighting ass faggots. You can't pretend this isn't happening, I know too much.

>>23148273
The thing is that men have different attractions than women have. Woemn are purely attracted to looks and sex organs, men are attracted to mind, body, personality, etc.

>>23148161 (OP)
The truth is if a women is genuinely interested in you she will signal and pursue you. If they don't, then don't bother it'll just be a waste of time and money at best or your social standing and reputation at worst.

>>23148279
I would say women are attracted to serial killer personality traits more than they are to "sex organs"

>>23148279
Let's be honest. Youth is primary for reproduction. If you're fucking old whores in the butt, you're just fucking.

Men are always making fresh batter, so men can always go for a younger woman and make babies.

Women choose to fuck a lot in their 20's, then they spend the next 7 decades blaming men for the guys that won't fuck them now.

>>23148231
>No matter what you do you will be degraded. Once you accept that, learning to not care becomes much more straightforward.
>Learning not to care
THIS

>>23148164
Correct

>>23148281
I had an airhead liberal chick that asked me if I had a gun on the first date out of nowhere.
I did.
#PoundTown

>>23148230
>Then you'll realize how shallow and boring they are, and take the gaypill.
Or just enjoy your solitude, faggot, KEK

>>23148283
>THIS
When you get out of jail, tell us how that worked out for you.

Why is it the only advice you shitbags can give is "BREAK THE LAW!" when men are supposed to pay her bills and her debt, too?

>>23148273
That supports my point even further then, if you're being pursued by such women it's obvious they're not the good ones.

>>23148164
This is very true. The notion that a guy needs to "make a move" is ridiculous. If she's interested, she'll make time. If not, she'll make excuses.

Did she leave you on read? - she ain't interested, buddy.

>>23148285
I feel like that's significantly less of a red flag for liberals than every other hot-button political issue
like you can be a liberal and own a gun, but you can't be a liberal and be pro-life or racist or transphobic

>>23148161 (OP)

I've internalized the view that a man should have resources before dating but faggots are denying me resources because they're jealous of the fact that I'm the supreme being and they are fungible and irrelevant

>>23148288
Yes, but they're the only ones you're ever going to get.

>>23148286
>solitude
Funny how most men live that way and it supposedly turns men into mega-rapist-robot-9001 BURNING MAN RAPE PARTY?

>>23148161 (OP)
>ask girl out
>be humiliated in front of her friends
>ask girl out
>she gets one of the icks she saw posted on tiktok
>ask girl out
>be taken to court after the first date for touching her shoulder for longer than two seconds without asking permission
>ask girl out
>be approached by pedo hunters because she was below the age of 25
You know what. No. I won't ask a girl out.

>>23148164
Bro lives in the mountains and drops vvthvvkes. White long wispy beard and a staff.
>>23148161 (OP)
>bro just be socially humiliated like a man cmon bro one more time please bro. cmon ur lame bro.

>>23148291
Money only buys you a prostitute.

Modern western women only want your money because they don't like men.

They'll abandon their living kids for social-media likes.

>>23148290
I was all of those things going to college and had no friends because I didn't know other people didn't feel the same way cause I was right out of the army. Chick was probably just tired of liberal dudes kissing her ass and agreeing with all her shit all the time.

>>23148161 (OP)
reasons for declining birth rates

chad cock carousel hypergamy, feminism, lack of local third spaces due to modern excessive zoning, decline in social skills in men and women, fear of approaching women, women not signalling men to approach, decline in getting dates through friends and family, match groups dating apps especially tinder, high housing costs, culturally discouraged from having children at a young age, women encouraged to prioritize education and career over motherhood, easy access abortions, existential dread, pessimism about the future, the legitimate fear of losing half your money in a seemingly inevitable divorce, guys can`t afford cars, women demand a man make more money than she does, 6 feet/6figures/6inches minimum, inflation, hoeflation, nobody knows how to even get a date its some mysterious process, cold approaching is a meme yet thats what we`re told to do and it`s awkward af and doesn`t work, socially taboo to hit on women outside of a nightclub with too loud to talk music, women looking trashy with tattoos and yoga pants, poorly dressed men with pictures on their t-shirts, processed foods, microplastics, atrazine runoff, gmos, the space shuttle, vaccine autism, anti-natalism from outdated fears of overpopulation, men and women not understanding each others differences, bickering in relationships, shit testing from women, simps, slutty chads, hookup culture.

The "eugenics" of chad cock carousel
>Chad pumps and dumps.
>"Smarter" women abort chads baby if birth control fails because chad isn`t going to stick around to support a child. Dumber women don`t think about that. Result: low iq baby.
>Women wait until they are older to have babies and by then are shocked to find chad isnt willing to stick around so they have to settle for beta. Result: aged eggs plus beta sperm.
>Women favouring low iq psychopaths with nice jawlines over everyone else. Result: handsome psychos
>chad fucking quantity over quality and getting a bunch of mid women, often short. result: manlets and betas
>Fisherian runway (think the irish elk, who went extinct because females only bred the males with the largest antlers, their antlers got too big and metabolically expensive and stuck in trees so they couldnt escape human predators) or the peacock who is easy prey having to drag those big tail feathers around and lost the ability to fly.

If you want eugenic then you want monogamy, its the only way to force chad into committing to his looksmatch and raising babies from a healthy age. Sure mids also breed, but mostly with other mids and mids are ok. Occasionally a mid ends up with a hottie, if its a mid man who managed to get very successful, and thats fine too. Wit, success, charisma, intelligence; all the many good elements of humanity can be rewarded with monogamy and not just psychopaths with jawlines. Civlization only exists thanks to cooperative males, go back to psychopath males that cant cooperate, lose the monogamy that secures male cooperation, and you return to monkey, no civilization can survive wiithout monogamy and psychopath jawlines arent suited to maintain civilization, they are suited for monkey times.

>>23148298
>Men. Men kill all women on earth 50,000,000,000,000,000,000 times every day.
Shame on men.

Nah I can already tell how this is gonna go. You think I can't tell when you go completely dark? Haven't seen wifeanon in a few days, I wonder if a gator got him.

Maybe he left the stove on and died of CO2 poisoning XD

>>23148161 (OP)
What if I made a move on my crush and got rejected? What then?

>>23148161 (OP)
the only move I'm making is inserting my dick in the pussy

>>23148299
Either you let women choose, or you don't.

>>23148162
> Dont give a fuck if they try to humiliate you
> Don't give a fuck if they try to ridicule you

That is the way you need to live as a men.

Do the things and dont care for opinions.

Also if that's your 2-tone blue Ford Explorer, that is the gayest stakeout vehicle I ever done seen.

>>23148302
I believe it. He had an electric stove.

>>23148164
>If a woman likes you, she will pursue you
She wont

>>23148230
>Become something women want


What women want is gay and retarded

>>23148164
Texan country wisdom

>>23148309
Women don't like you, anon.

>>23148161 (OP)
Because no tail, GTFO fefail!

>>23148306
I noticed how the world treated men, and I quit. I don't care about this crap system, I WILL NOT support it in any way. Even my income is non-taxable.

1 Radical self honesty
You call out your own bullshit, which trains you to start seeing lies other people engage in. Here you have to learn to accept your own darkness(addiction, excuses, fear, gooning/simping, you were born male) to resist it. "Willpower IS masculine power."

2 Value independence
A man's moral code has to be based on reason and experience. Traditions/culture is dead due to feminism and society is observably insane and dangerously delusional. Society treats Men as disposable. Society shouldn't treat ANYONE as disposable. "Guilt stops working on you."

3 Emotional self-sufficiency
This is more of a "you can't depend on anyone" than a "you don't depend on anyone" these days. "You can't be manipulated."

4 Intellectual courage
You are able to question beliefs others take for granted(marriage, justice, fairness) and follow the evidence instead, even when it goes to dark places.

Your ability to support and protect yourself is your first and most-important priority. If you hate yourself for being alone, you are running on cultural propaganda data. Attain intellectual courage. I wish there was a better way to protect yourself. These are the basics, repeat them until you have control of your life.

>>23148277
Lesbians don't like modern women either.

>>23148299
this is facts. arranged monogamy means large families which mean the mids are going to roll a winner or 2 on their roster as well.

>>23148305
they had some choice during the millennia of monogamy, they just couldn't all choose the same small percentage of men because hookup culture wasn't a thing back then. ban the dating apps that give them easy access to chad. make spaces outside of the nightclubs and their too loud music where its socially acceptable for men to talk to women. change some of the zoning back to allow local third spaces to develop where people can organically meet each other. slut shame chads who fuck women below their looksmatch. women have a built in measure of keeping each other in line through shaming, it was a massive cultural undertaking to make being a slut acceptable, undo that and bring women back to a healthy state of shaming each other for being sluts.

>>23148315

"Strong and independent don't need no man." is only attractive to lesbians.

>>23148317
too late brother, civilizational collapse is ongoing.

>>23148316
it wasn't arranged, it was a natural consequence of civilization. it was only destroyed because of an organized campaign of social degeneracy artificially promoted and embedded into our cultures over decades.

>>23148317
Blame the simps.

They are the ones that wanted "tuch muh pp" more than their own actual genitals.

lmao, arrangedmarriagechads where you at

>>23148321
i'm blaming this >>23148298
simps are on that list but so are manwhore chads and many other things

>>23148319
It was irreversible 4 decades ago. NOW people notice that "Men are disposable" was always going to be a loser idea.

>>23148320
I mean arranged in a european sense, not an indian sense.
matchmaking, courtships, father's approval etc.

>>23148161 (OP)
Every time I've made a move on my crush I was rejected.
Maybe I'm just autistic and cannot read signals, but I'm not going to try ever again.

>>23148325
oh right yes, we need to return to that. all that is a natural process in that it emerges on its own and isnt forced. they had to force us away from all that which came naturally.

>>23148324
You don't actually think that the idea that men are expendable only started 4 decades ago, do you? That's how it's been since the advent of humans, my dude.

>>23148219
Would rather have pussycat.

>>23148182
this. never get married. i should leave my wife for numerous reasons but she'll get half my retirement. NEVER GET THR GOVERNMENT INVOLVED IN YOUR SEX LIFE

>>23148242
Because a femoid is literally just a life support system for a wet hole
There's a reason Muslims built their entire religion around women having no rights - then still put them in trashbags and fuck goats

>>23148323
You have to go after the greatest number of criminals. In this case, simps. There are more simps walking around in "tuch muh PP, IT'S SO LONELY!" old-man-brain-fog(which effects men from 14-90).

Seriously, Simps need their PP touched. Men can fuck women whenever.

>>23148162
>You get humiliated for trying
No you don't. That's just what you tell yourself to try to rationalize not trying.
>You get ridiculed for not trying
As you should be. You have made being an sad, lonely, foreveralone adult virgin incel your entire identity, but you never even attempt to do anything to fix it. And then spend all of your free time blaming your woes on everything except for the fact that you aren't even trying.

>>23148309
Nah, they will.
It's not just the vapid look online whores do, they'll increasingly attempt to interact with you.

>>23148328
We always knew it, but it wasn't ADVERTISED until recently.

>>23148328
sort of but not in this way. before it was simply that men being more physically powerful were the obvious choice for more dangerous tasks and women were usually pregnant or with children and so sheltered at home. while men willingly and on their own instincts went out into the world to do sometimes dangerous things to provide for their families and were valued for that, that kind of "disposable".

now its just a complete lack of empathy for men and total institutional level misandry. where men are shat on daily and get no respect. even to the point where they are turned down for jobs in favour of women who are less suited for work.

A lot of incels were made for the "women are desperate and poor without men to latch on to" system where they don't need to pass multiple social tests to land a shot at a lady's attention and then have to deal with maintaining it long enough to date someone desirable. They hate that women have choice and freedom and it's hard to convince them things wouldn't be better for them if things were worse for women.

>>23148328
naw, in the wilderness we are warrior kings.
we weren't made for life in captivity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LjokBF8IBc

>>23148333
Humility is only hated by whores.

You're giving "don't need no man" energy. Bad vibe.

>>23148163
>no point to make a move if there's no mutual attraction.
Literally the only way to know for sure if there is mutual attraction is by making a move and seeing what happens.
There are lots of girls who go from talkative and outgoing to clamming up and being quiet and seemingly uninterested in guys that they are strongly attracted to because they get nervous and awkward.
And there are lots of girls who act very flirty and show all kinds of (fake) signs of interest towards guys that they aren't really attracted to at all.
The ONLY way to know for sure whether or not a girl is actually interested in you is by making a move that forces her to give you an undeniable, solid yes or no rejection.

>>23148279
Women are not interested longterm in autist neets, even if they are/were considered handsome or failednormie/chads

>>23148340
>Literally the only way to know for sure if there is mutual attraction is by making a move and seeing what happens.
You aren't attractive and don't spend any time around men who are.

>>23148318
Lesbians love submissive females in general. All they want is cute female to cuddle and love.

>>23148285
I had a chick i dated for a few months ask me that too real early on. She was always trying to push my buttons about it but I just sort of said "don't care, not negotiable, not giving up guns, sry" to anything she said and it used to make her pretty mad.

>>23148343
don't we all

>>23148337
>hate
No, they just deal with it. WOMEN hate it when it happens to them the first time, which makes them claim they were raped.

>>23148340
quads of truth

>>23148161 (OP)
women want tall rich men.

both of those atrributes cant scale to infinity.

you can never win

>>23148161 (OP)
i tried a long time ago and this girl I was really attracted to, basically she treated me like complete shit all the time, verbal and physical abuse, i thought it was just her personality and i was willing to try and look past all that and maybe she'd work on not being a psycho bitch, but she was just a bad person. ever since then, i feel like i've witnessed the true nature of women and it's not nice, and i dont really want to try again
and also, i see how my mom treats my dad, and i think my mom is like a spoiled rotten bitch who demands everything from my dad, and it just really makes me not like women even more. i think a lot of them just have disgustingly vile and irredeemable souls. i guess it's just the way they've evolved, they are used to being spoiled rotten for being born a female, it's in their DNA
they need to legalize prostitution and also hurry up on robowAIfus
Also, I tried a relationship with another girl, I wasn't really that attracted to her, but she liked me a lot. I just didn't really see the point in dating someone I'm not really attracted to. For what? Just to feel like some kinda big shot guy because I get laid? It's stupid and I'd rather stay home and smoke weed and play video games than go fuck a girl I'm mildly attracted to
I don't want to date an ugly girl, and I think the attractive girls are evil psychotic bitches, so I guess I'll just be alone

>>23148254
Number goes down dramatically if you exclude black women
You type and argue like a fucking chick, dude. Quit with the hyperbole and the endless BITCHING

>>23148343
Lesbians don't find those submissive women.

>>23148230
that's not what a penis looks like

>>23148332
are these "simps" in the room with us right now?
anyone saying "touch muh pp so lonely" is probably an incel and hates women. the simps are all delusional politically correct lefties or married boomers insulated from the modern realities of what women have become.

you probably think about onlyfans a lot, totally oblivious to the fact that 95% of women on that platform make no money and many of the cases of women making millions on there is money laundering or paying themselves through sock puppet accounts for fraudulent self promotion and to show engagement. you might think any woman can go online and get showered in simp money but thats not the case. not as many simps as you think.

>>23148161 (OP)
My crush isn't some ugly fat chick

>>23148352
...

>>23148350
There ARE NOT 80,000,000,000,000 black women on earth.

>>23148161 (OP)
>another smoking shill thread
Kill yourself Jew

>>23148353
Depends if that is the internetz or RL.

>>23148356
sometimes it seems like it

>>23148353
Simps are the only men that will date you. Does that help, old ugly woman?

>>23148344
no, she was fine with me having a gun, if I didn't have one I probably wouldn't have gotten laid. she was testing for danger. women don't have convictions bro. they follow the social school of fish superficially, but what they're into privately can be entirely inconsistent with that.

>>23148337
maybe there would be less hate if you made better choices instead of every women no matter how mid waiting her turn for a pump and dump hookup and feeling entitled to have chad settle for them, which he never does, because the chads who want to settle already did with someone hotter than you princess. and then throwing yourselves at every violent psychopath also makes womens choice look like a mistake.

>>23148359
They do yell like that. No wonder black Men won't fuck them. They have to rely on "tuch muh pp"
black simps.

>>23148188
true, but im too lazy to grab her and im scaref of her calling me a rapist and reportin to feds

>>23148161 (OP)
more like maybe i'm meant to be rich and successful

>>23148164
Nigga what? It's not a woman job to pursue you, no woman has ever pursued me and yet I have had multiple girlfriends.
You just gotta spend time with a chick and then as time goes on you gotta let her know that you are interested in her, else she will think that you are gay or just not interested.

>>23148161 (OP)
what are you supposed to fucking say? women are braindead from too much male attention
So somehow you need to manage acting like the coolest guy in the room who is too cool for her and wanting her, it's a paradox especially since I have a low quality phenotype. I'd rather just be a lonely incel than embrass myself or be a simp.
here's how a conversation wish a girl at my college went
>hi, i'm anon
>>hi (she doesn't say her name so I can't repeat it to signal boost oxytocin)
>so uh what's your major?
>>communications (she doesn't ask mine)
>oh that's cool are you from out of town?
>>yes
>ok (then I leave because fuck this dry ass convo)
Btw I literally have better richer deeper convos with fucking AI and I use all the big three grok, chatgpt and gemini.

>>23148220
such an inspiring and beautiful quote. eternal wisdom

>>23148367
>women are braindead from too much male attention
Social media made it 10,000 times worse. Children are fighting mom's smartphone addiction for attention, and they are losing.

>>23148340
Wasted quads, I spit on you.

>>23148340
Quads of lies

>>23148225
>You should masturbate once a week to maintain your prostate health and reduce your cancer risk
made up theory. all no nut november guys shouldve been all dead by now then

>>23148366
>as time goes on
no, you're setting yourself up to be friendzoned with that. that only works in the past or if you're chad or maybe it still works in finland. but modern women if you dont make a move on her within hours of meeting her she now things youre a beta male coward. they're used to chads hitting on them within moments of meeting them. its a bad system for forming stable long term relationships. its a system called hookup culture and maybe that hasnt hit finland as hard as other places but its pretty bad here. i would like to get to know women first before hitting on them but alas the system does not favour that more sensible approach and works against it.

>>23148340
"Be a man and simp-out like me, and you too can score glorious over-used 304 butthole!"

>>23148372
No, it's true. You eat a lot of garbage.

>>23148374
now that i understand what you mean by the word simp i agree with you.

>>23148161 (OP)
I told my highschool crush I wanted to get with her, she told me I was too short, I’m 6 2

>>23148377
hoeflation update
6 foot 2 manlets need not apply
7 feet, 7 inches, 7 figures minimum

>>23148164
>If a woman likes you, she will pursue you.
She might do things like stand closer to you, find some reason to strike up a conversation with you, act flirty, laugh at your jokes, touch you in an "incidental" way, give you certain looks, drop hints, etc.
But she will not ever ask you out on a date, initiate a kiss, invite you back to her place for sex, or anything else that is an undeniable real move toward sex. It's the man's role in the process to do that, and if he never does so, she will eventually give up and assume that he isn't interested in her.
And if a woman is ever very direct and sexual with you, you need to be extremely wary. Pretty much the only time that happens is either when the girl is extremely drunk/high and you run a high risk of next day regret rape allegations, OR she is setting you up to go somewhere isolated where her boyfriend or pimp is waiting to rob you.
>If she doesn't, not even giving your life to her will change her mind.
You are correct. If a girl isn't interested in you, you aren't ever going to win her over by simping for you.
Which is why you should invest as little of your time, attention, emotions, effort, money, etc into any girl that you haven't already established a sexual/romantic relationship yet. You need to make a move ASAP to force a potential rejection as early as possible.
Rejections are not a bad thing. Getting a solid no early is a good thing, because now you have your answer and can move on to a different one instead of wasting your time and being a simp and then still getting rejected months down the line.
>The best move is to not move
No, absolutely not. Never making a move just guarantees that you will remain a sad, lonely, foreveralone virgin forever.
The best move is to stop trying to avoid rejections and make a move as early as possible with every girl that you are interested in.

>>23148379
Nobody cares about men.

We kind-of noticed your "Men are disposable" parts of your points.

>>23148378
I cranked it up to 6'11, that's the max and got dates. girls filter height to get rid of the jeets, who lie about their height up to 6'0.
After cranking the height to max I got a lot more attention, but at that point I was just using tinder to talk like a pirate to get women to talk back like pirates.
jannies yeeted the thread, it wasn't depressing and shitty enough for /pol/ standards.