Thread 23165889

>omg why do you have so many little egirls orbiting you
i don't know chudcel, have you tried being NICE to girls???

pedophile groomer

>>23165899
>pedophile
>19
fellas, is it grooming if you're both consenting adults

Never simp

>>23165911
Anything is grooming on discord

>>23165943
I'm being aggressively feminist and denouncing racism, bashing incels left and right, bashing misandrists too when they misrepresent feminism as a man-hating philosophy

>>23165889 (OP)
>>23165899
>>23165943
>>23165952
where the fuck did all of these r9k posters come from?

>>23165968
just fuck off

>>23165968
I like to bring up how big tobacco companies paid Edward Bernays to use the suffragette movement to promote women's equality and double the number of potential smokers. Using female empowerment to sell your product was a great business decision.

>>23165974
R9k is a troon hole leakage is expected

>>23165999
The men who were behind that are definitely burning in the hell of incessant suffering. The brave feminists were bodhisattvas sent by the cosmic Buddha to liberate women from the shackles of patriarchy and wife beating.

>>23165968
So this is what the average male has to do it get pvssy... grim

>>23166052
Which part of bashing misandrists you don't get? I'm not being kind to all girls, I'm denouncing feminazi extremists when they pull the "all men le bad card"

>>23165968
Have you actually looked at feminism
It's a female centric victim complex mindset
Even if you argue that "true" feminism isn't man-hating it's by nature doomed to spawn a bunch of entitled man-haters
That's just the natural consequence of feminist beliefs and worldview
It's not about equality or treating people fairly, it's about "I'm upset, give me what I demand or give me a scapegoat for why I don't have it"

>>23166052
>>23166060
not organic posts
get the fuck off of bant

GET THE FUCK OUT

Women should be forced to register for the draft at 18 like I was.

>>23166070
Kill yourself already you pathetic neet

KILL YOURSELF NIGGER KILL YOURSELF NOW

>egirls
>Orbiting
And you've fucked and met exactly zero of them and they're probably all trannys

Fuckin dumbass dagos I tell u.

>>23166060
>Have you actually looked at feminism
I've been reading feminist literature and nothing about it is about wanting a matriarchy or hating men. Most feminist authors were married to men and they claimed all the time that their goal was rebuilding society with men to be more inclusive and tolerant of people who don't fit into their binary conception of gender. All the shit you read about feminism on 4cuck comes from rw stereotypes where feminists are regarded as unmarried bitter hags living only to spite men. Even the radfems do not hate individual men, but take it out on their culture. You've been literally brainwashed by /pol/chuds.

>>23166070
What's inorganic about my post
I showed up, I saw a conversation, I added my thoughts
You want me to cut out all GMOs and pesticides from my commentary?

>>23165952
>this word means whatever I say it means today
absolute 0 IQ retard

>>23166075
This nigga listens to the law lmao

Ngmi

>>23166083
>Thinks old feminist literature reflects contemporary feminism
It's almost like you know nothing about any of this whatsoever lmao

>>23166085
lol

>>23166084
Thank god I'm not a balding old creep like that.

>>23166088
#DraftOurDaughters

>>23166083
So here's the problem there. They want all the supposed benefits of being a man, but they do not want any of the responsibility therein. They shirk it entirely.

Men had the rights to make these decisions, because guess what retard? They were the ones affected by it.
>Oh abloobloo we were expected to raise children and be homemakers!
And we were and still are expected to fight and die in wars and now are also expected to be homemakers and raise children but also to carry all the traditional male gender roles.

Did you ever stop to think, for just a second, a single shred of a moment, that these things were the way they were for practical reasons?

Or are you just retarded and figure society was developed based on cruelty towards women?

>>23166100
I don't think so at all. I just think that if they want the right to be involved in decision-making then they should have all the same responsibilities. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.

>>23166083
You seem to think that what people say their goals are is necessarily going to be the consequences of their actions
Don't tell me, you think Marxists are actually going to create a utopia?
In fact, it's not just actions. Your beliefs have consequences that drive your other beliefs. If you think shoplifting is okay, you're going to shoplift. And when confronted with the fact that your other beliefs would contradict this, you either conclude it's actually not good and stop shoplifting, or you change your other beliefs to be ones that permit you to be a shoplifter.

>>23166092
I appreciate that my humor is appreciated
Now could you give me a real answer

>>23166083
>I've been reading feminist literature
Ah so you’re one of the niggas who use this angle to get pussy lmao. I’ve known dudes like you before. Machiavellian wolf in sheeps clothing.

>>23166122
Sounds a lot like you agree with me.

>>23166131
The answer is that hes mentally ill

hello

Why should a woman who has no expectation nor legally binding obligation to fight in a war get to vote at the level these decisions are made?

Modern women are inherently selfish and wicked. They literally think that they should have the right to murder their own unborn children by taking a hit out on them with a person called an abortionist. They see no problem with this.

Even the ancient Spartans only killed retarded babies. That's right. Ancient Spartan warriors, noted for their harsh martial culture, had more respect for life and it's sanctitythan modern women.

Modern women think it is fine to murder their own unborn children solely out of convenience. Because they would disrupt their life. So they just think they should be able to kill them, have them killed by others etc.

If you went back to ancient fucking Sparta they would think this is barbaric. Ancient Spartans.

>>23166133
Nah I'm more of a back to the kitchen type because feminist involvement in government and society has been disastrous and the west is prosperous in spite of it rather than as a result of it.

>>23166111
>They want all the supposed benefits of being a man, but they do not want any of the responsibility therein. They shirk it entirely.
More /pol/chud talking points debunked by reading a book. Andrea Dworkin said women should not try to be man-like but instead adopt an alternative model to the rigid male/female binary construct.
>muh things have always been the same
And women have suffered for centuries and millennia because they were not allowed to be anything besides breeders. You wouldn't want to be forced to stay at home every day just to please a person you were coerced into marrying. Humans long for freedom.

>>23166125
>You seem to think that what people say their goals are is necessarily going to be the consequences of their actions
Feminism isn't an utopia unlike communism. It only takes some time to uproot the old models, but it can be done.

>>23166151
You can't just shove the genie back into the bottle after its been let out. Taking away their rights would basically be enslaving them.

>>23166145
But if you point this out? They will start with the histrionics about how its traumatic and how you're wrong for condemning their behavior (arranging the murder of their unborn child).

Its traumatic because killing your own unborn child goes against everything human in us and even the animal inside of us. There is no other creature on earth who will try to kill it's unborn child. None.

You aren't the victim though. You're the perpetrator. You're the killer. Because it would be inconvenient to you.

>But babies are expensive!
Financially motivated murder, basically Tony Soprano style thinking

>It would disrupt my life, I want to do things!
Killing an unborn child you created because you want to go get fucked at the club is inherently sociopathic behaviour.

It's as simple as that. It is indisputable. It is undebatable. Killing your own unborn child for the motivations 99% of women do (elective reasons) is inherently immoral and sick.

>>23166155
>Idealist nonsense
That's nice but that's not how nature or society or humans work. You know this shit is downstream of biology right? These aren't conclusions reached overnight. It comes from tens of thousands of years of experience and building society and civilization. You're a moron.

>>23166173
No, I don't think so. It would be a return to form that existed for tens of thousands of years long before man could even fathom himself, long before written language, long before we evolved into homo sapiens.

It's downstream of biology and nature. A closed and unnatural system, like what the dago suggests, will always be eroded by a system more in line with reality and nature. Because we are part of nature, and come from our environment. Thusly, when you go against this, your system will eventually be eroded and destroyed by way of the laws of entropy

>>23166165
>Uproot the old models
You mean the ones that existed for tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of years?

For sure bud. It's idealist nonsense and none of it is based in practical reality.

Why? Because women have been protected from that reality for said hundreds of thousands of years by men. There is no historical or natural precedent for what you suggest. It is not based in any sort of reason. It's emotionally driven bullshit.

>all the things I don't like need to go away and we can all be equal somehow
Not how it works lmao, exactly why your opinion means nothing whatsoever.

You can't accept reality. Just like women.

Are you under the impression that the draft is optional? That it's a practice born out of anything but necessity and practicality? Because if you are, you're an idiot and aren't qualified for this conversation by way of a lack of understanding the core basics of the human experience and the realities therein.

Civilization is downstream of biology and nature. Your argument is pulled out of the ass of women who know nothing of the world.

>>23166165
I never said anything about utopia

>>23166019
Men who invented dishwashers, fridges, and washing machines did that. Not some ideology

Sorry ladies but being expected to be a homemaker and raise children is absolutely nothing compared to being forced to march thousands of miles to get your ballsack blown off by grapeshot in a frozen field in Austria.

Key words EXPECTED and FORCED

Women were allowed to interact with society in almost every way men were. They were denied being part of the political process because they were not affected by it in the same manner as men. They could conceivably be something other than a homemaker. Men were forced to be soldiers, there was no choice involved and that continues to this day.

Maybe one day women will grow up.

Also because people knew this was a bad fucking idea going all the way back to ancient Greece

Go look up Assemblywomen by Aristophanes. Thousands of years of history agree with me. Tens of thousands. Hundreds even.

Meanwhile a few very dumb women agree with your takes.

Hmmm, so the smartest men to ever live agree with me. The whiniest and most entitled women to ever live agree with you.

I win! Enjoy being a beta bitch nigga whose sole proud achievement is that a bunch of trannys talk to you on the internet.

Smdh this is why ur a virgin lil bro.

>>23166188
I'm just not seeing how this is all girls fault. What exactly are they doing that makes you think they need their rights taken away?

>>23166326
Let me steelmam this one
The issue isn't one of fault really
Is it a hammer's fault if you can't tighten a bolt with it?
This anon (hopefully) isn't arguing that women are evil and need to be limited in their influence, but that voting and such are not the kind of thing women ought to be doing and the system is failing because we have the wrong tools doing the wrong jobs

>>23166424
>but that voting and such are not the kind of thing women ought to be doing
So you're saying they're voting wrong then?

Seems like a lot of implying of implications but no direct reasons.

>>23166484
I guess?
I don't personally believe that women shouldn't be able to vote, I can't really speak for this perspective

>>23166556
Every time I ask someone who holds that point of view for a direct reason, they always respond with some vague metaphor usually about something retarded like tools or how we're all just animals instead of giving actual examples to support their retarded world view. Guess its easier to spout vague nonsense when you don't have to defend a real point. Like if he said something about the nuclear family at least I'd have a point to debate with him. Its all so tiresome. Hopefully a girl has sex with me for this.

>>23166621
I responded with that metaphor because that's all I could give. They aren't my beliefs. That's what steelman means

>>23166641
I know

Why am I so many different IDs here
>>23166641
>>23166556
>>23166424
>>23166257
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>>23166085
These are all me

>>23166664
I always assume you're a phone poster when that happens.

>>23166674
Well you're not wrong
My computer is broken right now

>>23166683
hope he gets well soon

If you're neither disinterested becuase your happy with with the pussy you're getting elsewere and are just shooting the shit nor are you fucking them, getting nudes, or getting gifts/money then they aren't orbiting you. If that's the case the reality is actually that you're just a giga-simp who orbits many girls simultaneously.