Thread 23166686

>You're really going to disregard all my opinions if I don't own a gun!?
Yup.

>>23166686 (OP)
yes

>>23166686 (OP)
Yes

>>23166686 (OP)
Unpopular opinion but if you've never served in the military and/or a police department you shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm. I can understand trusting vets with them but why should an 18 year old kid who has never had any real world experience using rifles be allowed to buy one?

>>23166689
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED

>>23166686 (OP)
I'll never be with her. She's my dream. And a beauty. But only a handful were made for investors and VIPs.

>>23166689
the military is the biggest welfare program in the world and it's mostly filled with shit head and nigger trash. please just kill yourself already you faggot civilian. sucking off the military is something boomers and crypto boomers are going to have to give the fuck up if they want anything changed

>>23166689
There's a maximum IQ for joining the police and both the police and military have a long history of abuse both outside and within their organizations. Stuff like soldiers/cops being raped and then it gets covered up.

It also means that people who are physically unwell, be it due to age, illness or injury, cannot acquire firearms to defend themselves when they are the ones most likely to require it.

Your opinions are trash because YOU are trash.

>>23166686 (OP)
The only reason to own a gun is fear.
Fear of your fellow man fear of your government.
How many times have you laid awake at night thinking about how to grab your gun how to load it or trun the safety off. Remember it only takes them shooting first and your gun is useless.
I pity those who live in fear. Like.children or small animals.
Real.men don't need a gun.

The government here always goes on about "Oh yeah, we committed genocide and this is unceded land and blah blah blah", but then we're expected to give them a total monopoly on the ability to use force? HELL NO.

>>23166694
Why does the government stockpile guns, then?

>>23166694
If you actually rely on the police for protection, you're a grade-A retard.

>>23166696
Fear.
I pity them as well.
They fear loss of income or control of commodities like oil or minerals.
The nukes they keep are from fear of mutual annihilation.
Governments are not men their concerns are more complex. So they give guns to scared men and call them soldiers.
I am surprised you needed to ask. Perhaps your fear blinds you to objective reality. That makes life really hard. My favorite part of gun rights is when a person realized they have blue pilled themselves about life and shoot themselves. Far more likely than your hypothetical intruder.

>>23166697
Best case scenario, they're 5 minutes away. Worst case scenario (what most of us have to live with), they never show up and if they do it's going to be hours later.

It probably takes less than 5 minutes to walk from your front door to your bedroom.

>>23166698
Disarm the government and then we'll talk.
But they won't, so I'm keeping all my shit.

>>23166697
If you think your gun makes you safe you are lying to yourself.

>>23166700
Still afraid I see.
So sad.

>>23166701
Not having a gun does not make you safer unless you're so stupid/crazy/evil that you should be locked in a padded room.

>>23166701
That's great, you can write that on a note and have them put it on your tombstone when they come to clean up. That's about all they're good for.

>>23166704
You forgot the part where they charge the victims of home invasions if they hurt the poor, poor armed intruder.

>>23166699
Lock your door. Get a real loud alarm. Don't be a pussy. Your fear is what gives the craziest the ability to own a gun. All a crazy has to do is shoot you first. More likely if they are crazy. All that wasted money on guns and ammo. Next complain about paying taxes.
Kek

>>23166686 (OP)
What are you gonna use your gun for? Acting tough? If guns prevented tyranny, the US/Canada would be very free countries.

>>23166703
Statistically more likely someone I love would be hurt by my gun. Family and friends are too important in my life.people have bad days. Emergency rooms are full of them.
Remember no bad guy gets a gun unless a good guy let's them.

>>23166705
Another good reason to not have the fear stick in your house.

>>23166686 (OP)
Wait but how does that negate being Canadian??

>>23166706
So locking your door isn't fearful, setting up an alarm isn't fearful, but as soon as I actually make the criminals fearful, then I'm the fearful one?
Go fuck yourself. If you enter my home without my consent, you are leaving with far less blood.

>>23166693
>cannot acquire firearms to defend themselves when they are the ones most likely to require it.
There's this thing called "the police" they can call

>>23166704
Some day you may wallow in self pity and pull that trigger one more time. Blue pills weigh heavy on the soul.

>>23166712
And then they get a beautiful burial. So nice.

>>23166706
>>23166708
>>23166709
realistically speaking you're at a disadvantage if you don't have a gun in the US. if you lived in europe your reasoning would be 100% justified because everyone else is rid of guns. but in US everyone has guns including the criminals. in europe there is proper gun control and guns are in good hands, mostly used for sport and hunting

>>23166711
Real tough guy I see.
Kek

>>23166715
>everyone else is rid of guns
lol
lmao even
There are videos all over Europe of criminals shooting full autos.

>>23166716
You sure?

>>23166689
>"if you didnt serve Israel you shouldnt be allowed to own a gun"
fuck off kike

>>23166717
I'm sorry for you lmao

>>23166718
No, i actually expect you are blowhard.
The smallest men always try to act big.
Address please?

>>23166689
>hey Alexa, what percent of discharged veterans are collecting disability due to “combat stress” and other mental disorders?
Yeah they are certainly the most qualified to be the sole gun owners in the world.

>>23166720
Why? I'm right.
Every other terrorist attack in the EU has included full auto AK's and shit.

>>23166717
Anecdotal evidence is useless.
There is a video of a man with a homemade tank. It doesn't not mean we all have tanks.

>>23166689
>you should only be able to own a gun if you've been a good goy
dumb post

>>23166723
Why is it special.it is an AK?

>>23166724
Europe is FULL of weapons. There are entire criminal industries manufacturing illegal guns.

>>23166726
>Doesn't know what full-auto is
Opinion disregarded.

>>23166689
>Unpopular opinion but if you've never served in the military and/or a police department you
should be hanged for being a traitor to serving a foreign zionist occupied goverment

>>23166686 (OP)
what are you doing with a gun? Hunting deer on your way to starbucks every morning? lmao gunfags are so cringe it's unreal. you are neither a professional soldier nor a policeman wtf do you want guns for? are you scared for your safety

>>23166728
Are you saying some types of guns are more dangerous than others? Sure seems that way.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ForgottenWeapons/comments/k8h7au/the_r9_arms_smg_a_gun_well_liked_by_european/

Here's one of the cooler models that the criminal underworld made.
It's actually pretty fancy.

>>23166731
I'm saying the full auto ones aren't legal there are criminals have them anyway so your gun laws are worse than useless.

>>23166733
there and* criminals have them anyway

>>23166727
I bet those guns are worth a whole heck of a lot more money.
I was a hunter for years.
An AK was worth a ton of money during the assault weapon ban.
If you vote for stricter gun laws your guns will be worth more. People will keep them more secured and less crazies will have them. Maybe you can sleep better at night then.

>>23166735
Do I look like some fucking boomer to you? I am nowhere near done buying guns.

>>23166733
Gun laws can hold sellers responsible. Gun laws increase the value of harder to obtain guns. Gun laws make getting guns harder so people will secure them better. Gun laws take guns from the mentally unstable.
Lack of Gun laws makes for scared little boys hugging hunks of steel like a teddy bear.
Either way lifenis still good for many of us. We don't need to waste money on guns.

>>23166736
Nowhere near done wasting money. Poverty is a choice and debt is hard to live with.

>>23166721
I'm using a VPN. I live right down the street Chang.

>>23166689
> must be indoctrinated by the government to own a gun
Unpopular because it is fucking retarded and antithetical to its original intention
Gun safety/use course would suffice

>>23166689
0/10 b8, faggot.

>>23166692
This. Zogbots rest in piss.

>>23166737
>>23166735
>16 posts, all saying we need more gun laws
Faggot fed shill.

>>23166737
You're definitely one of those stupid fucks that get shot and killed, cant wait to see that happen in the near future I just know youre that dumb enough to say "shoot me" too

>>23166689
>allowed
You don't allow rights and more people are killed by drowning in fucking pools than by whites with rifles.
>18 year old kid
Lmao

>>23166712
Civilian gun ownership was invented to protect you from the police.

I'm going to own a gun regardless of what laws these rich pedophiles pass. When a man has things and people he loves and cherishes and is his duty to protect, he must defend them with maximum force.

>>23166694
Reality is violence and anyone who does not prepare for violence to the greatest extent that they can is subhuman.

>>23166702
>Just don't mind it if you and your people are raped enslaved and annihilated you pussy
Lmao

>>23166689
nice bait, lots of replies

>>23166708
Statistically violent crime scales dramatically downwards with per capita gun ownership when you account for race.

>>23166706
The vast, vast majority of attempted gun defenses are successful statistically

>>23166705
The majority of defensive gun uses are deemed legal without any charge or hearing.

>>23166689
Dude, I had more experience with firearms by the age of 14 than the vast majority of the enlisted who have finished their service because I was raised by a man. I mean seriously, most of the armed forces are lucky if they get 3 weeks of weapons training the entire time they're enlisted because they drive desks, operate mops, drive forklifts/trucks, sit in a warehouse, etc I knew a bitch who was in the navy and bragged about being a badass but the whore never even TOUCHED a weapon the entire time she was in. As far as I'm aware the only thing she operated in the navy was dicks.

>>23166753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7KixCXx7Z8

>>23166715
>if you live in europe you don't need guns
what
>in europe [...] everyone else is rid of guns
the fuck
>in europe there is proper gun control
are you
>guns are in good hands
talking about you nogun nigger
>muh euroguns
Alright let's set this straight : a fuckton average euro civvies own guns, meaning couples hundreds millions circulating in whole Europe, mostly unregistered hunting shotguns and rifles from last era, or hidden milsurp ; gun control only applies to regular folks who want modern weaponry (like myself), it will never ever prevent criminals from arming themselves so they can commit felonies. Guns aren't particularly "in good hands" ; the very happy few hunters and sportshooters are not so many and govs destroy their rights year after year, nobody cares if they get fucked little by little ; the massive unregistered civilian old guns aren't in good or bad hands, they are just lying under beds or in laundry-rooms just like in the US "in case of something happening". The vast remaining amount belongs to criminals and they don't care about regulation or laws, they are heavily armed, they are far too numerous and organized, and they are praying on regular innocent people as a way of living. So in short yes, any fucking family man needs a fucking assault rifle, either to defend himself and his kin against tyranny or brown mobsters.

most people just buy guns and leave them in a safe and occasionally take photos of them to posture

NO ONE is using them for political purposes, no matter how much you guys say so

>>23166707
>Retard confuses necessary preconditions to a solution with the act of solving the problem
That's kind of like saying hats can't keep your head warm because you once saw a man who had a hat but refused to wear it.

>>23166757
The Japanese PM just recently got offed with a home built pipe shotgun.

>>23166716
>Acting with 1/10th the aggression of any of your ancestors since the first hominid threw a rock is now past the bar of extremist edgelord content.

>>23166760
A lot of my ancestors were pirates, so it's probably less than 10%, to be honest.

>>23166721
>The smallest men always try to act big
The eternal refrain of the small man bitter about the big men.

>>23166730
If you look at countries individually per capita gun ownership scales with lower violent crime.

>>23166735
>Maybe you can sleep better at night then.
A man is a killer. Not a killer, not a man.

>>23166755
US post about legal self defense countered by Canadian post where self defense is discouraged or even illegal.

Face it. Some people live in countries where crime is tolerated and not reported due to political expediency.

>>23166764
Man is to man a wolf.

>>23166689
I held a gun and shot one at 8 years old. Started hunting with my dad later that year.

Guns are very simple tools to use, it dosnt take much training to realize to treat it like it’s loaded, to not point it at something you don’t intend to shoot, and don’t carry it around loaded unless you’re ready to shoot. Fuck I don’t even store my hunting rifle properly. It’s literally loaded next to my desk in a rack.

>>23166765
It's a very big topic in Canada right now.
This country wasn't anti-gun even just a few short decades ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP5yZrUd4nM

>>23166757
Feds ran pissing and shitting

>>23166694
If you’re a real man you’d own a gun for sustenance and self reliance. It’s a very important tool for survival and sustainability.

>>23166686 (OP)
Based OP

>>23166689
I have no sympathy for any "veteran" of any conflict after 2001

>>23166770
To be honest a well trained guy with a compound bow and plate carrier will take your gun from your cold dead hands and you won't even know what hit you.

>>23166689
The 2nd amendment is one of the most based laws in history despite its flaws like blacks being able to use them willy nilly
I'd rather get shot by a black person than have guns taken away from everyone

>>23166689
>You shouldn't be allowed to defend yourself.
Kys faggot.

>>23166773
Just shoot them when they break into your house

>>23166694
This is such a weak argument. Do you not have insurance of some kind?
>Real men don't need health insurance.
>Real men don't need home insurance.
>Real men drive into oncoming traffic. No fear

Why are you afraid of others having the right to defend themselves?

>>23166694
I hope no one ever breaks into your house or you enter the wrong neighborhood

>>23166737
>>23166738
>>23166706

So. My barely 100lb wife should be unable to defend herself and my children if I'm not there?
Too much ammo?
Let's apply that to the first amendment. The government says you have used enough words, so now you have to wait to use more.

Your arguments are trash.

>>23166773
>>23166775

>>23166772
Just ignore things like rate of fire, concealability, and ability to use from various angles.

Yes, bows are lethal, and they are also covered under the second amendment. Meanwhile, brits are about to need permits for anything more dangerous than a plastic spork.

>>23166686 (OP)
I dont have a gun but I will also disregard their opinions too

>>23166770
Was morrowind on Playstation? I know it was on xbox...

>>23166780
Always smile whenever I see the first video I ever posted on 4chan.
The original filename is "Smooth_Operator

>>23166690
But will be heavily regulated.

>>23166780
Rate of fire doesn't matter. Accuracy does. Bolt-action rifles are only slightly faster in comparison. By the time you see the guy you're already dying. It's a quiet weapon, even if the first shot misses, you won't know where it came from.

In this video of yours he could have killed him with a knife also. In my opinion that was a pointless kill. You could let the guy take your stuff and start following him. Find out his address or if he goes directly to the pawn shop. You could take out the entire organization rather than just one guy. Personally I never carry anything valuable with me, even though I live in one of the safest countries in the world. Cheap wrist watch (water resistant), cheap phone (turned off) less than 50 bucks cash, keys, sunglasses. That's it. If I ever get robbed I will follow them and they'll have no idea what's going to happen next.

>>23166694
This is bait, but how do you propose i deal with the pests/ferals trying to get into my chickens pen? Do I kill them with kindness?

>>23166784
>this faggot mentality has spread to free speech too

>>23166686 (OP)
you will need it when the russians are at your doorstep once trump gives alaska back to them

How the hell is this not political?

They gave me a fucking ban for this.

They literally just give me a 3 day ban every 3 days even though my threads are always on-topic.

>>23166689
If you try to enforce this change I'll shoot you

Jannies are being clearly biased when they ban me for this but leave up all the apolitical crap on /pol/

We have threads on AI, threads on relationships, threads on the redesign of corporate logos, threads on religion, threads on rocketry, threads on the stock market... but if I dare make a thread about guns, I get a ban.