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Anonymous (ID: Re9xPxrR) United States No.23179694 >>23180665
Delete /pol/
Anonymous (ID: Tc6n86+H) United States No.23179801 >>23179807 >>23179809
>ban things I don't like NOW
Erm, how about no lamaaao
Anonymous (ID: Re9xPxrR) United States No.23179807 >>23179817
>>23179801
/pol/ is a threat to democracy and the continuation of our liberties, Chud
Anonymous (ID: 9imUTnL9) United States No.23179809 >>23179817
>>23179801
>1755432292648379.gif
olympic chainsaw throwing competitions?!?!?!
Anonymous (ID: Tc6n86+H) United States No.23179817 >>23179826
>>23179807
Freedom of speech is meaningless when you ban people from expressing opinions you don't like. Unironically go to reddit/discord if you want to exist in a bubble where nobody can disagree with you.
also your shits all retarded and you talk like a fag

>>23179809
or something type shit
Anonymous (ID: Re9xPxrR) United States No.23179826 >>23179846
>>23179817
Intolerant ideologies must not be allowed to propagate, they must be destroyed without hesitation. Anywhere they gain a foothold they will be allowed to take over where they will subsequently destroy all the liberties they once took advantage of.
Anonymous (ID: Tc6n86+H) United States No.23179846 >>23179913
>>23179826
>Intolerant ideologies
Labeling something as a boogieman is a lot easier than having a debate and actually defending your side isn't it? If you don't like an ideology you should be able to articulate why and prove your point of view is correct. Not silence them with more censorship. Freedom of speech is for the brave and you're a coward.
Anonymous (ID: Tc6n86+H) United States No.23179895
>Freedom of speech is for the brave and you're a coward.
I feel so American right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPKp29Luryc
Anonymous (ID: Re9xPxrR) United States No.23179913 >>23179936 >>23179944
>>23179846
This was a somewhat valid idea in the era before algorithms, astroturfing, troll farms, ragebait, mass disinformation campaigns, AI, and so forth. The massive surge in far-right ideas comes from artificial campaigns to indoctrinate people to act against their own interests, and these are funded by powerful interest groups with billions of dollars at their disposal. A functioning democracy shouldn't reflect just what people think, but what is in their best interests. That is why it's important to combat misinformation/disinformation and to ensure that voters are well-informed.
Ultimately, the truth does not win out in the "marketplace of free ideas", bullshit does because bullshit tends to be simpler and more digestible than reality which is usually multi-faceted and complex, and as per Brandolini's law (AKA the bullshit asymmetry principle)
>The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.
Think of all the people who still believe that the earth is flat, that evolution isn't real, that anthropogenic global warming isn't real, that vaccines cause autism, and so forth despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Censorship in and of itself is not bad. It is a tool which can be used for good or bad depending on who uses it and why. Fascist ideologies in particular must not be allowed to have a platform anywhere and they must be forcibly repressed and not allowed to propagate.
I do not care if fascists whine about being censored or repressed. Their very presence is a threat to the continuation of civilization as a whole.
Anonymous (ID: Tc6n86+H) United States No.23179936 >>23179942
>>23179913
>The massive surge in far-right ideas comes from artificial campaigns to indoctrinate people to act against their own interests
So you're saying we should deplatform everyone thats guilty of wrong think?
>Ultimately, the truth does not win out in the "marketplace of free ideas
It does but the problem is that its not your ideology
>Censorship in and of itself is not bad
I for one think that people should be allowed to think whatever they want. People like you aren't allowed to dictate what free people are allowed to think.
>I do not care if fascists whine about being censored or repressed.
You will not infringe on my god given right as an America to tell you that you're wrong.
Anonymous (ID: 9imUTnL9) United States No.23179942 >>23179954
>>23179936
>It does but the problem is that its not your ideology
no, the problem is AI and troll farms, like you always avoid every fucking time this shit gets brought up lol
Anonymous (ID: 9imUTnL9) United States No.23179944
>>23179913
>algorithms, astroturfing, troll farms, ragebait, mass disinformation campaigns, AI, and so forth.
all of this shit is much more important to root out than any of this is:
>Fascist ideologies in particular must not be allowed to have a platform anywhere and they must be forcibly repressed and not allowed to propagate.
>I do not care if fascists whine about being censored or repressed. Their very presence is a threat to the continuation of civilization as a whole.
Anonymous (ID: Tc6n86+H) United States No.23179954 >>23179963 >>23179969 >>23180022
>>23179942
Did you read what we're talking about? We're talking about if people that disagree with you should be allowed to speak or not. Ai and troll farms are irrelevant to my first amendment rights. Feel free to side with the anti-free speech communist though.
Anonymous (ID: 9imUTnL9) United States No.23179963 >>23179989
>>23179954
i really wonder if this is training or not
Anonymous (ID: 9imUTnL9) United States No.23179969 >>23179989
>>23179954
>Feel free to side with the anti-free speech communist though.
that do be what i said
i hate free speech
i got btfo
Anonymous (ID: 9imUTnL9) United States No.23179972 >>23179989
Anonymous (ID: 9imUTnL9) United States No.23179974 >>23179989
Anonymous (ID: Tc6n86+H) United States No.23179989
>>23179963
>>23179969
>>23179972
>>23179974
try not to piss and shit yourself
Anonymous (ID: Re9xPxrR) United States No.23179994 >>23180702
>Both sides are the hecking SAME, okay?
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Anonymous (ID: Tc6n86+H) United States No.23180014
If the right held the same beliefs as you and had all of the power then you wouldn't be allowed to speak against it. In reality you just want to impose your will on others.
Anonymous (ID: Re9xPxrR) United States No.23180022 >>23180038
>>23179954
I don't believe in completely free speech but I also don't believe in banning all political ideologies that are different than mine. Speech should have a certain degree of legal protections but also restrictions on certain types of speech (i.e. hate speech). Disagreements and discussion can be had, but there's a difference between "I disagree with this tax policy and think that (x) should be implemented instead" and "this group of people is fundamentally not human, they're inferior and deserve the rope". The latter is the type of speech which shouldn't be tolerated to any extent.
Anonymous (ID: Tc6n86+H) United States No.23180038 >>23180082
>>23180022
I'm a free speech absolutist so we're never going to agree on this or change each others minds. I say we call it here.
Anonymous (ID: Re9xPxrR) United States No.23180082
>>23180038
Sure
Anonymous (ID: JwR10aM1) United States No.23180665
>>23179694 (OP)
NEVER NEVER NEVER!
Anonymous (ID: bXMoq8EG) United States No.23180702
>>23179994
>This image looks like a mockery of centrists but actually the guy in the middle is Planned Parenthood