Thread 23190046

Hi /bant/, I enjoy schizo writing on various topics, or just having fun and playing with language. I'd like to share my writings, and if anyone has the same hobby, I'd appreciate reading your writings for inspiration.

My style varies a lot, my topics vary a lot, but I do wish to grow better at using a type of, assaultive-interrogative style that unsettles a reader from being able to reside in any comfortable frame.

>>23190046 (OP)
Trying to improve it.

>>23190718
this post was sexy your critisizm of the faith is lacked in sincerity and falls around to the gauge of obtuse considering what the Bible itself says

a compass of plastic is no more alive than the magnetic poles.. no one ever told the plastic he had to do anything any way or his notion of if or if not doesn't matter towards the presence of a messiah.. but the 'religious masses' are as wrong as you want them to appear at any giving moment.. the Bible is meant to be worshipped how you find it in your personal faith, hence why the charactuire of Christ doesn't matter. The skin that frees you from the sin of free will doesn't matter it's the body of Christ that does.

Christ is there to be examined in your own way, religious masses in the yaweh spectrum are nothing but if not encouraged to think for themselves.. though I knowvery little about the Talmud or the qauran I'm going off what the Bible tells.

you'd be better off criticizing dead religions the idea that you can TRUELY find a religion that hasn't covered all bases is a big get, you'd be better off looking for dead religions.. I am not sure about the other religions but the Bible has TESTS to see if you've been listening, to see and help show you you've found god for yourself. You know your personal relationship with God because the god is with you, if you believe that sort of thing.. past metaphysical.. the biggest criticism you can make of religion is not knowing it and others who follow suit.

>>23190046 (OP)
Luke 17:21 no one can give you god and the whole no man fucking was really no boy fucking for anyone interested

>>23190760
(a) I don't mention the bible, christ, or yaweh
(b) a compass of plastic lacks the structures needed to interact with a magnetic field, and thereby can't perceive/measure it
(c) even if you glimpse a god (or any other complex 'thing') directly, you will be limited by the mechanisms you use to perceive it, and by the mental landscape you have to understand it.
(d) it's a polemic against absolute belief / faith (which i consider naive), not against god, bible, or religion as an active lucid pursuit (where you recognize the limits of what can be perceived, known, or understood; and the pitfalls of using speculation or faith to fill in such shortcomings)

>>23190829
>a compass of plastic lacks the structures needed to interact with a magnetic field, and thereby can't perceive/measure it

for you this is true

>even if you glimpse a god (or any other complex 'thing') directly, you will be limited by the mechanisms you use to perceive it, and by the mental landscape you have to understand it.

according to which religious mass?

> it's a polemic against absolute belief / faith

well of course you consider it naive you have no faith.

>>23190840
> (1), plastic compass....
nani tf are you implying here?

> (2), religious mass
its commenting on limitations of perceiving/knowing phenomena... epistemological? phenomenological?

> (3), on naive,
Lacking worldly experience, wisdom, or judgement; unsophisticated.
Not having been exposed to something.
(of art) Produced in a simple, childlike style, deliberately rejecting sophisticated techniques.
(computing) Intuitive; designed to follow the way ordinary people approach a problem.

In the context of faith, the opposite of a naive faith, might be a provisional faith? A working faith in a model, or observation, provisionally contingent upon certain conditional assumptions being held constant. If the future conditions are shown to diverge from the assumptions.... Then the faith is re-aligned toward something else...

A type of unfaithful-unloyal faith, might be the opposite of a naive faith.

>>23190840
>according to which religious mass?

if none this would imply you have built yourself your own notion for god outside of that, criticizing faith itself yelling at a god you've framed to tour understanding.. almost trying to replace him while making himself visible to you. You have designed a god that you can defeat and put yourself above it's faith.. because the way you have framed him faith is a SILLY NOTION. So if not a mass religion you have made a god you can defeat and in its place is yourself and the understanding you have created for yourself that you're comfortable with. .

so really I cant explain faith to you, you already killed any hope of faith within yourself because you have designed god yourself. . and he's weaker than you. Think of it like AA, you cant be handed sobriety through AA without awnsering to someone above yourself.. even if it's metaphorical it's a tree.. without the notion that you ARENT the end all be all and there is someone and something bigger than yourself you have to awnser to confide in ECT you have to be willing to surrender to something outside of yourself because you are not in control to give it to a higher power whether that's god or simply a metaphor for something outside of yourself.. a bigger better you to answer yourself in.. a 'higher power' and if you wont surrender to that then trying to explore this school of thinking would not only be a waste of time it would be impossible. You would have to accept you don't know. I hope that helped explain how with faith would have to come mass religion if you're making a criticism, or at least something past just faith.. because if not you're just criticizing nothing past a strawman you've created. A golem to do your bidding.

>>23190872
>nani tf are you implying here?

allegory of the save, what a dev could do would seem like magic to the player. What created the dev it's abilities would be inconceivable

>its commenting on limitations of perceiving/knowing phenomena... epistemological? phenomenological?

knowings of who?

>
In the context of faith, the opposite of a naive faith, might be a provisional faith? A working faith in a model, or observation, provisionally contingent upon certain conditional assumptions being held constant. If the future conditions are shown to diverge from the assumptions.... Then the faith is re-aligned toward something else...

speaking of what religion? How can an ant comprehend space? How can you genuinely with 100% no doubt that you are making a decision out of PURE ACADEMIA when you're telling me understanding changing for some in a constant fluid notion (depending on who you're asking.. again like I said you're making a golem.) how can you tell me a black hole say isn't one just because your understanding changed?

>But if both truths are constants

might be what you say next.. constants for who? Constants to who? To what god? What great religion.. you couldnt make this argument without focusing on particular religions (which would require vast knowledge, waaaay past what I know)

>A type of unfaithful-unloyal faith, might be the opposite of a naive faith.

this is a golem post and I choose to no longer engage unless you say something that really catches me I feel like I have had this before..

in my opinion the only true athiest is the real learned one, you don't know and any assumptions you make have made you no different than those your criticize.. but WITHOUT the reasoning or logic they have while parading and calling THEM naive.. an atheist is just someone who hasn't graduated (or is too arrogant to) graduate to agnosticism or a religion or some of form of spirituality. The only thing telling you faith isn't real is yourself

>>23190872
you yourself have become the rabid people you seek to mock in your ultimate goal of knowing because you've framed yourself to win without anything to back it up. The game was rigged from the start, you created a golem for you to kill. You told yourself a hero story to feel better about not knowing, to feel more comfortable in it.

there are no ahtiests in foxholes though chud

>>23190046 (OP)
Don't post coward.
Psychology is degenerate. Furthering it is not innocent or loyal to otherwise.

>>23190876
> So if not a mass religion you have made a god you can defeat and in its place is yourself and the understanding you have created for yourself that you're comfortable with.
It would be very egoistic, yes. Though, my metric might be of survival, utility, aesthetic, and coherence; rather than comfort.

> so really I cant explain faith to you, you already killed any hope of faith within yourself because you have designed god yourself. . and he's weaker than you. Think of it like AA, you cant be handed sobriety through AA without awnsering to someone above yourself.. even if it's metaphorical it's a tree..
Though, how I killed my faith, in anything, was laying down in a park one day, under a cloudy blue sky with a thermos of tea. It felt; like it no longer mattered if I was alive or dead, if I believed in anything, or never perceived a thought again. It was a sort of peace in, of being beyond care, beyond care for myself as well.

> .. without the notion that you ARENT the end all be all and there is someone and something bigger than yourself you have to awnser to confide in ECT you have to be willing to surrender to something outside of yourself because you are not in control to give it to a higher power whether that's god or simply a metaphor for something outside of yourself.. a bigger better you to answer yourself in.. a 'higher power'
I chose to give up, to surrender to... surrender? Ah, even that doesn't make sense. Ever since that day in the park, I've felt weird. Like my muscles are now... spring loaded.... When I get anxious or overwhelmed, I also get physically ill now and have to detach myself from situations, otherwise I'll lose my balance and feel like I'm about to puke.

I have to approach a situation maintain control; otherwise if I've lost control, the situation is unsalvageable anyway, and it's time to step back.

> You would have to accept you don't know.
In which case, I like to believe nothing, until there is something I can know.

>>23190959
god bless you you seem like a very kind person and I hope the best, I wish I could find faith for you. Faith is a relief.

>>23190876
> I hope that helped explain how with faith would have to come mass religion if you're making a criticism, or at least something past just faith.. because if not you're just criticizing nothing past a strawman you've created. A golem to do your bidding.

My topics are flimsy straw men I erect for sardonic wordplay. It's a funny mental image.

>>23190926
>how can you tell me a black hole say isn't one just because your understanding changed?

Mmmhm, I could break it apart into a name, a concept, a gravitational well...... A star collapse, an event horizon, math equations; so forth. Introduce Hawking Radiation, they even shrink away. I may never have altered the mechanisms of a black hole, but my understanding has radically reshaped itself. Introduce a new type of telescope, and the perception could also be clearer/different. Now they also measure gravitational waves if I remember correctly.

>in my opinion the only true athiest is the real learned one, you don't know and any assumptions you make have made you no different than those your criticize.. but WITHOUT the reasoning or logic they have while parading and calling THEM naive.. an atheist is just someone who hasn't graduated (or is too arrogant to) graduate to agnosticism or a religion or some of form of spirituality. The only thing telling you faith isn't real is yourself

You seem curious, so, I'm a Mahayana Buddhist. I'm fond of Bodhidharma and Nagarjuna as role models. Bodhidharma was a, very dog like person, not unlike Diogenes. Nagarjuna was a very deconstructionist philosopher and rather a poet.

>>23191016
finding out you were buhdist idk why made me so fuckin mad

I'm also working on a manlet theory of history.