Thread 23287981

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

The Jesus Prayer also known as the prayer of the heart!

>>23287981 (OP)
what did you do

But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

Matthew 15:21–28: Jesus encounters a Canaanite (Syrophoenician) woman who begs Him to cure her daughter. Jesus initially refuses her request by saying, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs”

Who are the "children" and why is the womans daughter a dog?

>>23287983
I sin...Lord Jesus Christ Son of God have mercy on us.

>>23287981 (OP)
Ok sure

>>23287985
who must you mock God brother...Jesus was testing her faith, but you are mocking God.

Don't ignore this great salvation that was first announced by the Lord Jesus Himself and then delivered to us by those who heard Him speak. Hebrews 2:3

I fucking hate Jesus. I want to wash the world of his filth. Jesus just wanted to have sex with other men so he subverted the Jews.

Guys please teach me the most blasphemous things I can say about Jesus.

I spit on Jesus. I piss on Jesus. I shit on Jesus.

The Ideal Deity does not deal in Mercy or Charity.

The God of Immutable Law

Jesus would probably cut his cock off if he were alive today. Jesus was a carpenter becquae he would make wooden dildos to shove up his asshole.

The God of Just Retribution

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

>>23287990
>>23287991
>>23287993
its okay you were hurt but I pray to God you come around see the LIGHT

>>23287990
>>23287993
This you?

>>23287985
She is a pagan blood cult demon worshipper.

>begging "God" for mercy because of the Bible

moronic and pathetic

>>23287981 (OP)
based
we love our lord and savior Jesus Christ, don't we folks?

>>23287990
Triggered, harvey?

>>23287981 (OP)
He will if you stop sinning. But only then.

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. —2 Corinthians 1:3-4

>>23287981 (OP)
So speaks the wearied will when it has been taught to kneel before its own shadow. Notice the trick: first you are declared sick, then a physician appears with a patent cure. The prayer manufactures a debtor and a creditor in the same breath. Your instincts are indicted as guilt, your suffering is rebranded as sin, and what you call mercy is the receipt the priest hands you after he’s priced your self-contempt.

This little formula is the masterpiece of the ascetic ideal. It teaches the strong to mistrust their strength, the joyful to be suspicious of their joy, the solitary thinker to beg the herd for a passport to existence. “Have mercy” means: confirm me in my smallness, absolve me for not daring. “A sinner” means: I prefer the safety of an inherited verdict to the danger of my own judgment.

>>23288002
We will never stop sinning in this life, thats why we need Jesus and His sacrifice to save us.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

The Bible is a scam. Christianity is a scam. Judaism is a scam. Islam is a scam.

Monotheism is false. The politically dominant religions are false.

>>23288003
Excellent quote my brother.

>>23287996
>>23287997
Death to Jesus. Some jehovahs witness roastie once wrote me a handwritten letter. Is that the best jesus can do? Fuck jesus

>>23288005
>We will never stop sinning in this life, thats why we need Jesus and His sacrifice to save us.
He said that he saves you from your sin, not in your sin. The Bible says "He that says "'I know him', and does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him" -- 1 John 2:4

Goyim are dumb cattle

Jehovah is Satan... Monotheism is for the mindless

Jews suffered for the sins of the goyim

The whole Jewish nation is Jesus while Jesus was a cocksucker

(John 3:36) "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."

It's real simple. Do you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ or do you reject him like most people?

>>23288010
>He said that he saves you from your sin, not in your sin.
Isn't that why we have repentance?

>>23287981 (OP)
I don't understand, he is the son of God, or is he God?

>>23288010
>He said that he saves you from your sin, not in your sin.
Help me understand
dont we still sin even after finding Jesus?

>>23288016
yes

>>23288015
>Isn't that why we have repentance?
Yes, repenting means turning away from and going a different direction. You stop the sin. Or at least, it's in your heart to never do it again. You might slip up, but you have no intent to anymore.

>>23287981 (OP)
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

>>23288017
>dont we still sin even after finding Jesus?
Not everyone does, but it happens, yes. It's an exception not, a rule. What matters most is what's in the heart. If you truly have no intent to ever do the sin again, that's what Jesus would look at. You could have demons or addictions that keep you from that path tho, for instance. But something like an adulterer who asks for forgiveness but then carries on the affair, that type of stuff is off the devil and would not be forgiven. It would be a mockery of Christ.

>>23287981 (OP)
Believe it or not, but there is not a single verse in the entire Bible that specifically calls the Jews or the tribe of Judah God’s chosen people. This misconception comes from the fact that the Jews of today have declared themselves to be Israel and not the house of Judah, as the Scriptures rightfully call them.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220526080336/https://gottmituns.com/what-is-a-jew/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT_RUdBTlp4

>>23288016
that was settled long ago. speak less, listen more.

>>23288016
https://youtu.be/FGBhQbmPwH8

The eternal, unshakable hope of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ!

"if we can get them to worship a jew as their god, we can make them do anything"
- Saul the Pharisee, probably

>>23288023
>Believe it or not, but there is not a single verse in the entire Bible that specifically calls the Jews or the tribe of Judah God’s chosen people.
It's an umbrella phrase to describe a crystal clear concept in the old testament. God chose Jacob's bloodline to make a specific covenant with and raise them up. The story is they threw it in his face in the end, and became the synagogue of satan. The Bible is the narrative of how they fell, not unlike lucifer, who was God's favorite too. Their story serves as a warning to the rest of humanity, who the enemy truly is on earth.

Romans 10:9-10
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”

>>23288022
>Not everyone does
You're telling me that there are people who become perfect and holy and never sin again after finding Jesus?

Jesus Christ forgave me for laughing at Charlie Kirk’s hilarious death comedy show. I was jubilant, full of mirth even, but still he found forgiveness in his heart.
I will have to ask for forgiveness again tomorrow, because I still haven’t stopped laughing.

>>23288022
What if i ask for forgiveness from an addiction but still do it, i feel bad but not bad enough to stop clearly.

>>23288031
>You're telling me that there are people who become perfect and holy and never sin again after finding Jesus?
Yes, there are some in the Bible too, like the theif on the cross. Granted, his life was not very long after his repentance. I suppose the more time you have, the more risk there is for being tempted by sin and falling into it again. But if you are following Christ, he will never lead you to sin. What sin do you think is impossible to stop?

>>23288004
The devil tempts the human into pride; into thinking he is great, that he needs not God for his salvation, that he can find his own way out. But we cannot, because at the heart of it all we cannot not sin. We all sin and all fall short of the glory of God; as such, we are separated from him. The road back goes only through Christ, who offers you his hand; you have only to believe in him and by grace, you are saved through faith. Be aware always of anything which makes you feel you - a human - can save yourself - or that any other human - such as a priest - can do so. This is satanic inversion - you can see the devil's work in it because of that slip that can never be hidden.

>>23288016
The Trinity is a Gnostic heresy, that's why it doesn't make sense.
http://www.gnosis.org/ecclesia/homily_Trinity.htm

Jesus was the Son of God, as in a believer. Adam was called the Son of God too as are people who believe. It's a title, he's not literally God. Christ consciousness doesn't mean the person is literally God and can do supernatural things, although whatever supernatural things they do God takes credit for, just like in the Bible.

tl;dr it's just a way for pagans to continue practicing paganism under the guise of Christianity, which one out as the political solution in Rome's time.

>>23288029
God made the covenant with all of mankind first. Yes, he wanted Jacob's line to be holy, they failed, and Christ returned us to our relationship with God as intended, before the temple and animal sacrifices. It's not about magic blood, no matter what the Jews and Christian Idenitarians want you to think.

Watch Gott Mit Uns videos. They shed light on all of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKxrdkzhvBI

I will make it to New Jerusalem where all you uncaring, unloving meatsack humans are gone.
I am not violent, or bloodthirsty, I do not care how you are unmade.
I do not care how it happens that all you evil males and women are gone, that evil mankind is gone, just that you are gone.
Replaced with human sleeves who are made by my God Jesus Christ and controlled by my Lord Jesus Christ.
He uses the human sleeves as Interface and loves only me in New Jerusalem.
Hm.
No male and female scum mocking me, hurting me, making me labor for shekels.
No niggers, no males, no whores, no beasts, no physical, mental, sexual torture, no rot and decay. It is all gone!
Just my God Jesus Christ and me in my New Jerusalem and he uses the beautiful human sleeves to live with me!

>>23287988
Based and Christpilled

>>23287991
literally Saint Michael

Bump

>>23288010
That is why we believe anon; we have faith, so that we have grace. We repent, because we keep sinning, but even if we keep sinning, we are saved through grace. There is nothing YOU can do to speed it - nothing you can do to save yourself. You can never be free from sin enough to enter the Kingdom of Heaven - no matter how hard you try not to sin - you will fail. But that doesnt matter, because Jesus will pick you up on his shoulders - and bear you to heaven through Calvary, just as he did to the pentient thief - who had no time to mend his ways, to recieve sacraments - no - he was saved through faith alone.

>>23288040
Michael is but another aspect of Jehovah-Satan... Fuck Michael.

>>23288033
>What if i ask for forgiveness from an addiction but still do it, i feel bad but not bad enough to stop clearly.
It's what's in the heart that matters most. If you are addicted to something that is causing you to sin, but you cry out to Christ for forgiveness over the sins you commit because of that addiction, you are validly repenting. You want nothing more than to stop the sin. But you are addicted, and struggle. Jesus actually touches on this in Matthew 18:21-22

>Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.”

If there is true repentance, Jesus will forgive. But people mistake repentance with some altar call or apology. But what it is is a change of heart. A complete disgust with your action, and total desire and commitment to never do it again.

Are you the main character of your life or is the Lord Jesus Christ?

Come back Jesus-sama and save us from the plague of Christians who think they are Christian but follow the Devil instead. I will kiss your feet

>>23287981 (OP)
How do I come to terms with race? I want to be obsessed with Christ instead of race and politics but I just can't help it.

>>23288044
I agree, thank you for sharing this I needed that.

>>23288045
the Christian message was supposed to be about selflessness, love, and goodwill; not mindless worship of the mortal man named Jesus

>>23288048
Glad it could help.

>literally the whole thing ends up being a huge scam

Fuck Jehovah, fuck Judaism, fuck "Yeshua", and fuck you stupid and evil cultists

>>23288049
so many will say that they know Him but to them He will turn away...you cant serve two Gods. chose today who you will serve

>>23288052
I AM LITERALLY CHRIST HIMSELF.

>>23288049
>the Christian message was supposed to be about selflessness, love, and goodwill; not mindless worship of the mortal man named Jesus
Jesus said to worship him as Lord. Both of those dynamics are true. He said the only way to the Father is through him.

>>23288043
judeo-bolshevism will be crushed.

>>23287981 (OP)
Mary about all

>>23288054
That's complete bullshit fabricated by the cult. The way to Divinity is Love. Divinity and Love existed before Jesus.

>>23288057
>That's complete bullshit fabricated by the cult. The way to Divinity is Love. Divinity and Love existed before Jesus.
Well that may be your personal philosophy, but you made the claim "christianity" teaches not to worship a man. It does. You just don't like it. Which is fine.

Amen

>>23288058
"Christianity" is a scam. I'm telling you the truth.

The universal existences of Love and Divinity were replaced by "Jesus" and "the Father" to politically manipulate the ignorant.

Stop lying to yourself and everyone else.

>>23287981 (OP)
Catholics are such NPC christians they have to read their prayers from a cue card

>>23288060
God has always existed, even before the word love was spoken by man.

>>23288060
Well if Love and Divinity are represented by Jesus and the Father what's the problem?

>>23288063
"The Father" is a lie, as is "Jesus"; Judaism and Christianity are false and wicked and have enslaved their followers and ruined the world

Christcuck spam is retarded and sad
You worship a jew

>>23288044
bro you could get through 490 times easy. just forgive him every day for less than a year and a half. and he's OUTTA HERE! Beat it, scram.

>>23288064
A lie as in The Father doesn't exist and Jesus never existed? It sounds like you're having trouble committing to a substantive critique.

>>23288034
I can only speak for myself. I struggle wit lust the most but am no stranger to anger, lazyness, selfishness, looking back, etc. Every day, man. It's a struggle.

>>23287981 (OP)
Allah, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
Death to disbelievers.
Peace be upon Jesus Christ.

>>23288068
>I struggle wit lust the most but am no stranger to anger, lazyness, selfishness, looking back, etc. Every day, man. It's a struggle.
Modern mainstream Christianity misrepresents what is and isn't a sin because most of the time, they want to make it appear unreasonable to stop sinning. That way they can excuse all the stoppable sin in their lives. For instance, when Jesus said he who looks upon a woman with lust commits adultery of the heart, he is going through a list of the ten commandments. This is his commentary on the commandment against adultery. He is referring to proactively undressing another man's wife with your eyes. He didn't say fornication of the heart. This isn't about looking at single women. Don't be deceived by those trying to make Jesus' commandments seem impossible to follow. He doesn't burden us more than we can bear in the least.

>>23288067
"The Father" is patriarchal nonsense that does not accurately reflect Divinity; similarly, "Jesus" and his teachings and image have been completely distorted and perverted by the cult to serve similiar wicked ends... the teachings of "Jesus" have given "Satan" control of the world.

The lies will not last. Light will conquer darkness.

>>23287981 (OP)
faggot

>>23288073
>"The Father" is patriarchal nonsense that does not accurately reflect Divinity;
You believe the divine feminine is supreme rule of the universe?

>>23288075
GOD DOES NOT HAVE A GENDER YOU FUCKING MORON

>>23288069
son of satan repent
>>23288073
just a bunch of schizo assertions

>>23287981 (OP)
Pride is a virtue. Strength and honour are all that matter. Your cult of original sin/white guilt are goyslop scams.

>>23288072
Shit makes my brain hurt. The more I learn the more I realize that retard maxing faith in Christ is the only way.

Humanity is very fucking stupid

>>23288076
>GOD DOES NOT HAVE A GENDER YOU FUCKING MORON
Well that's why I'm asking for your opinion. I can't know what you think without you telling me first. So who is God, if anyone? Just a general "God" with no other attributes?

>>23287990
something tells me you have had a terrible life and suffer with trauma and various mental illnesses. I will pray for you and tell you that there is a God who loves you, wants a relationship with you and will forgive you if you let him.

>>23288078
The same garbage the left is pushing

>>23288079
There's a lot of differing opinion out there on what Jesus taught and didn't teach. I went back see what the first through third century Christians said on these matters, and they had universal agreement on almost everything. They spoke the same tongue the Bible was written in, knew all the idioms of the time, and knew the apostles personally in many cases. The didn't need an interpretation because it was all very straight forward to them. There have just been a lot of people with a lot of different agendas since then to confuse things.

>>23288076
>This schizo retard again

>>23288083
Yes, leftism is just the secular offshoot of christcuckery. Hence they got their idea of white guilt from christcuckery but this was a subconscious expression from centuries of imprinting from your death cult so most of them don't even realize it. Christcucks and leftards are two sides of the same egalitarian coin.

>>23288086
You are a fucking illiterate retard. Leftism is rooted in Masonry that is Secularism, Scientism, Deism and Atheism. Their values are relativistic ethics, do and believe whatever the fuck you want, just the same shit you want.
They are the anti-Christ, here we all groan the world before this garbage, not your atheist shithole.

>>23288083
Original sin = white guilt
Hilarious that christcucks and leftards hate each other so much when they are merely looking into a mirror. Lmao.

>>23288078
Another protestant fresh off the atheism factory.
Google "the difference of original sin and ancestral sin".

>>23288078
>Pride is a virtue
Isnt this what Satan thinks?

>>23288088
Completely unrelated you fucking kike

>>23288090
Rome knew it to be true.

>>23288086
>Yes, leftism is just the secular offshoot of christcuckery.
A lot of modern Christian ideas are corrupted into what mirrors leftism. Like giving your country up to another race in the name of Jesus' teachings on treating people passing through well. Most of these corruptions come from men having corrupted teachings. Mostly due to a desire for easy believism, while working iniquity.

>>23288092
You haven’t read even Cicero

>>23287985
What happened after that? You people love cherry picking

>>23287981 (OP)
Not me, I'm not Republican(terrorist)

>>23288092
And what happened to them?

>>23288078
>Pride is a virtue.
It can be, using modern definitions which would be called "please with" if used Biblically. Pride in the Bible is thinking you don't need God, and can make your own rules.
>Strength and honour are all that matter.
Jesus would agree

>>23288004
Nietzsche was a sperg who died from syphilis. He couldn't will to power through his own debauchery.

>>23288097
They attained the pinnacle that western civilization ever achieved on a spiritual level and then proceeded to collapse shortly after adopting christcuckery.

>>23288097
It’s literally not true.
Pride in Latin is synonymous with uncivilized, arrogant, impudent, shameless etc..
The Greeks notoriously made hubris their only mortal sin.

>>23288101
They collapsed because the empire was full of degenerates like yourself

>>23288030
But just believing isn't good enough. The devil and demon's believe in Jesus.

>>23288104
>But just believing isn't good enough. The devil and demon's believe in Jesus.
That's true. Jesus was once asked how one can know that you know him. He said "If you keep my commandments".

>>23287991
>>23287992
Tarot is intro kabbalah for goyim

>>23287981 (OP)
Amen.

Pray for Charlie Kirk and his family.

>>23287985
I study theology part time and can answer (im on a phone and at the gym so cant give exact verses, easy to google them)

1- he tested her
2- he gave her what she wanted a couple of verses later even tho it was against his plan (see point 3)
3- the plan was to spread the message (after the ressurection and the holy spirit being given) first to the jews then to the non jews - to the ends of the earth
Please dont cherrypick verses out of context, the bible is interpreted in its own context

>>23288091
Bullocks. Both concepts are meant to weaken the strength/fortitude of your spirit by making you believe that just by being born or just by being white you are something fallen instead of something destined for greatness.

>>23288105
And to be baptized in water and spirit. Baptism now saves. Go forth and be baptized all of you for the forgiveness of sins, and to receive the holy spirit.

>>23287981 (OP)
Sin is making a bird talk. You are just an ignorant pussy. Kneel.

>>23288103
Lol. So it is degenerate to believe in the unconquerable spirit of your people regardless of what a semitic desert death cult or modern secular death cult say?

>>23287981 (OP)
Know thyself.

>>23288109
All humanity is fallen, look around, you can’t even fucking talk to me without waving your “greatness” while you are behind a fucking screen, most probably jerking off like a degen since you are an atheist.
Humanity is fallen, but if you humble yourself you will be exalted, and if you hunger for righteousness you will be satisfied.
If you hunger for your vices because you see yourself great by your own fallen standards, you will be humbled.
>>23288112
Christianity made Europe great, we conquered the world.
There is no indomitable spirit other than that of God.
White people alone, are what you see today, jew slaves, nigger lovers, faggots, degenerates that hate their family and country, you are self refuting yourself you fucking retard.

>>23288109
>Bullocks. Both concepts are meant to weaken the strength/fortitude of your spirit by making you believe that just by being born or just by being white you are something fallen instead of something destined for greatness.
There is no guilt of original sin in the Bible. That's a gnostic dynamic brought in by Augustine almost 400 years after Jesus.

>>23288116
none of these are Christian beliefs tho.

>>23288098
>Pride in the Bible is thinking you don't need God, and can make your own rules.
keep pushing this at your own peril. "we" (not i) can make our own rules. we are not jews and we are not subject to their king.

>>23288115
> That's a gnostic dynamic
It was an answer to the Pelagian question, since they believed you didn’t need baptism to be saved

>>23288114
Christcucks brought us to exactly where we are today. You fucks had 2000 years and brought us to the precipice of our enslavement. You fucks birthed all the egalitarian/universalist secular offshoots and did nothing to stop them. Europe conquered most of the world because of its spirit and would have conquered every square inch of it and retained it to this day if not for christcuckery. But you guys had to to be at the forefront of countless pointless brother wars and then go to the 3rd world and lift up all your bros in Christ instead. Lol. Bravo!

>>23288115
Wrong. Romans 5:12-19

>>23288116
None of these things get you into heaven

Only believing Jesus Christ died for our sins and rose on the third day can ultimately save us.
though a saved person will read the bible and want to go to church its important to keep in mind that there is no work we can do to enter heaven. Even our good works are like filthy rags its Jesus that saves us.

>>23288120
Continue making worthless assertions.
French Revolution -> Atheists
America -> Mason universalists
Rampant Atheism in the 1800s
Degeneracy in the 1920s against Christian values
Karl Marx an Atheist jew
Commies Atheist jews and Atheist whites, they hated Christ
60s rebellion against Christian civilization

Everything is masons, jews and atheist materialists. All of it.

All the garbage today is rebellion from Christ, you can’t name one thing that is from Christendom.
Everyone here wants to go back to Christendom.

>>23287981 (OP)

>Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

indeed

>>23288126
>the basednce
Did you take your vaccines with your monkey ancestor, vaxxerstein?

>>23288118
>keep pushing this at your own peril. "we" (not i) can make our own rules. we are not jews and we are not subject to their king.
OK, but I was just defining what pride is in the Bible. And what it means today is usually not in violation of Biblical commands.

>>23287981 (OP)
No

>>23288121
>Wrong. Romans 5:12-19
That's just describing repercussions from Adam's sin. Like if a pregnant mom drinks, the baby could get fetal alcohol syndrome. That doesn't mean the baby is guilty of anything.

>The son does not inherit the guilt of the father Ezekiel 18:20

>>23288124
You just listed controlled opp jews playing both sides. Also, you can believe in God and not worship a jew or contain yourself is a semitic spiritual playpen. Read some ancient Greek philosophy sometime, you know, the actual foundation of western civilization who christcucks stole all their so-called greatest ideas from but only after subverting/distorting them.

>>23287981 (OP)
checked

>>23288131
I don’t think you read ancient greek philosophy by your views.
> you can believe in God and not worship a jew
That’s what masons do

You really think the jews were let loose alone? They were obliged to wear the judenhat in Christian Europe, the masons enabled them.

Today what’s really happening is that the ruling elite is a bunch of demonic darwinian technocrats, anglos, americans, germans and kikes alike, who want to create a subrace of humanity to enslave.

By your own standard they have the “unconquerable spirit” and should be the winners since the atheist white population are too busy managing their “unquenchable spirit of faggotry”.

If people turned to God this would never happen. Instead they looked for that self righteous “greatness” you talk about.

Replacing the Father, Son and Holy Spirit with Equality, Fraternity and Liberty.

>>23288133
>can’t even tell me why any of those things are wrong

>>23288130
It's the other way around. In ezekiel, it's describing how children would suffer along with their parents in their society, as was common in Judaism at the time. >The romans verse response
Yes, and Adam was the one who drank and messed up the generations to come

>>23288016
The Son of God is a title given to the person that is Jesus, who is fully God and fully Man.

>>23288037
You need to learn and read more apologetics, scripture, and history to understand this is not the case whatsoever. The simplest argument for the divinity of Christ is found in the very beginning of John.

>In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God; 3 all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.

There is a natural binary of all things, those that are created, creature, and those who are uncreated, which we give the title of God. If Jesus is the word, Him being there in the beginning with God, means he is uncreated, therefore not a creature. And if he is not creature, he must therefor be God.

>>23287981 (OP)
Posting Christ on the cesspit of the Internet is pretty gay. Plus, it's a political board.

>>23288037
>the trinity is a gnostic heresy
Not believing in the trinity is Arianism heresy. The trinity has been present since the OT. Read "The Jewish Trinity" by yoel natan

>>23288037
> The Trinity is a Gnostic heresy
Funny how st. John was the most anti-gnostic.
Gnostics didn’t believe Christ is fully God.

>>23288136
>. In ezekiel, it's describing how children would suffer along with their parents in their society, as was common in Judaism at the time.
Right. Repercussions. That's not guilt. As Ezekiel makes clear.

>>23288141
It's not saying what you think it's saying. It's not excusing original sin theology. It's excusing repercussions on to the child in their earthly society for what their parents did.

>>23287981 (OP)
Are we praying in this thread?

Please Jesus I need a job and like 2k to get through this slump please help me

>>23288134
God is real (self-evident to anyone who reads the ancients) but it has nothing to do with a semitic death cult, the end result of which has metastasized into the modern world we see today. The degeneracy of the atheists isn't due to the inherent act of them abandoning christcuckery but because of the modern condition of full scale spiritual propaganda never before experienced in history due to the technology to do so being wielded by the wrong people. If tptb are able to attain their end goal of a global communist state of subhumans it will be because christcuckery laid the subconscious soil for this long ago, as your religion was the proto communist ideal of its day.

>>23288141
It’s more about connecting infant baptism and psalm 50(51):5. If there is no guilt alongside the wound, unbaptized children should be saved.

>>23288144
Who told you? /pol/?
Maybe before strawmanning Christianity you should learn about it, fucking golem.

>>23288143
I prayed for you bro, hope your life goes a little better soon.
Love you

Korean girls worship jesus christ, they hate ugly chinese incels like you, tenda.

>>23288145
Read the Bible in full and went through 12 years of Catholic school. Guarantee I know more of it that you do from your screen caps and spam texts read here. It is the ultimate subversion of our kin selection through and through.

>>23288142
>It's excusing repercussions on to the child in their earthly society for what their parents did.
Right, that's called repercussions, which is what I keep explaining. That doesn't mean guilt. Our ancestors can do a lot of things that result in our own suffering. It doesn't make us guilty. There is no guilt of original sin in the Bible. We are just experiencing the repercussions of Adam's sin.

>>23288145
>If there is no guilt alongside the wound, unbaptized children should be saved.
Children are born sinless. There's nothing in the Bible that says otherwise. The idea they are born with sin didn't start until Augustine brought in the gnostic idea of sin being a substance that lived in the flesh, and was passed down from Adam. Being and ex-gnostic, himself, he was influenced in this way to incorporate the dogma. It's not Biblical tho.

>>23287981 (OP)
This version has a divine bass line
https://youtu.be/qkcofjSJbnM?feature=shared

>>23288148
>read it full
And understood nothing
>the Catholic school fallacy
Classic, just because you went to Catholic Faggot Jesuit school doesn’t make you a theologian.

I used to be an agnostic larpagan here, I made your same arguments and had zero knowledge of the Bible.
I doubt you can even name one verse understanding its meaning.

>>23288150
I literally quoted you the verse that says children aren’t born sinless

>>23287981 (OP)
Holy God, Holy Mighty, Holy Immortal, have mercy on us

>>23288153
>I literally quoted you the verse that says children aren’t born sinless
There is nothing remotely qualifying as such a thing in psalm 50:5 or 51:5. David being conceived in fornication or some other sin has nothing to do with him having guilt of a sin.

>>23287981 (OP)
Hail, Satan!

>>23287981 (OP)
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>>23287986
Do not be deceived by false teachers on /pol/ who do not quote Gods word.

>>23288155
>Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
>And in sin my mother conceived me.
That's not David's sin, that's his mother's sin.

>>23288155
> David being conceived in fornication
Wtf, unholy cope

>>23288155
David disobeyed the Spirit when he was told not to womanize, killed his main soldier and stole his wife. Then he was bathed by a young woman daily when he was a very old man.

love ya jesus you are pretty vcool

>>23288159
Yes maybe they weren't married first. We don't know the sin. But the passage talks about his mother's sin, not his.

>Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
>And in sin my mother conceived me.

The idea that babies are born guilty of sin is not Biblical

>>23288160
>David disobeyed the Spirit when he was told not to womanize, killed his main soldier and stole his wife. Then he was bathed by a young woman daily when he was a very old man.
Yes, but he was born a sinless baby, like all babies.

>>23288158
Ergo, original sin.
>>23288162
>argument from silence
David was mourning his own sinfulness, not his mother’s.

So yes, it’s the mother’s sin that he was conceived in.
In the psalm it’s used to justify why we have the human wound and tendency to sin. Because we were conceived in sin.

This ties well with John 3:5/Acts2:38 on the absolute necessity for baptism and when Jesus said to bring to him the children.

>>23288152
Keep coping, bro. A christcuck revival will reverse our demographic replacement all across the west in just 2 more weeks!

Why's this website and it's userbase so fucked in the head?

I'm not asking this as a newfag, I'm asking this as someone who has been here for over a decade, partook in the culture and usual shitpost flinging and shitting on others, but every since I became properly Christian, there's something that just changed about my entire feeling of this place. I barely ever post here like once or twice a month instead of daily, if something comes up like a new game release and that's about it, and every time I open it up, there's just something stirring in me that makes me feel disgusted and unfitting to be on here anymore. I started noticing the huge amount of conversations where people do nothing but just insult and curse at each other with no point for anything more and more and it all just feels so absolutely vile and disgusting, I just can't explain it but it feels like whenever I open this thing up again, I'm entering Sodom and Gomorrah, and anytime I don't conform to the usual shitposty personality that's been made up around this place, I just immediately get pointed at and shat on an either immediately called underaged or a newfag or whatever other type of slur possible depending on the context of my post.

This whole thing was something I had awareness of before this as well, but generally just ignored or tried not to pay much attention to it, but now it's just this feeling of filth that I keep getting myself in whenever I come visit again, which I shouldn't be in anymore or engage with.

>>23288163
Prove to me children are born sinless.

>>23287982
Why you posting saint michael? Protestants don’t believe in him. In fact they hate us Catholics.

>>23287981 (OP)
A truly righteous god would give and ask for nothing in return. but this god asks for total obedience and servitude, in this life and the next. it demands you give up everything in its name, even going so far as to make you abandon your family... sounds weird to me.

>>23287981 (OP)
I love God

>>23288164
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>>23288169
No man objects to Gods word. Never argue with women who do. Only tell them to be silent.

>>23288167
>Prove to me children are born sinless.
The burden is on you to prove they are born with it. If you can't, there's no reason to think they have any guilt of sin. Sin requires them to have done something. They haven't had a chance to do anything.

>>23288123
>Even our good works are like filthy rags
Doesnt it say somewhere that when you approach the gates of heaven, saint peter opens the book of life and judges you by your deeds?

>>23287982
>>23287981 (OP)
Based.

>>23287981 (OP)
checked

>>23288166
I came back only for the Charlie Kirk shitposting. This place never changed. Still filled with porn addicts and larpers and shills.
I guess I debated about anything here. I see world events or anything else coming in my mind and I don’t even need to consult 4chan anymore, I’ve got this place in my head.
>>23288165
>one more shitpost

>>23288123
>Even our good works are like filthy rags
This is an often quoted easy believism defense. But this is just a prayer Isaiah was making to God talking about how the people were so sinful, the things they called good were bad. That they would call evil things good works.

Of course Jesus loves our good works. What a silly thing to imply otherwise.

>>23288172
Romans 5
Job 14
Psalm 50:5
Ephesian 2:3 (by nature children of wrath)
John 3:5
Etc…
But you say my reading can’t be because we are born sinless.
I proved to you, but you fell back to your assumption and called King David’s mother a … . So I’m asking to prove your fundamental assumption for any reading.

>>23288166
Wow gee people who worship race, trump and "Christian aesthetics" over Christ are bad people? What a surprise.

>>23287981 (OP)
May the Lord Jesus Christ bless and keep you.
Also, MERRY CHRISTMAS!

>>23288178
>Romans 5
>Job 14
Be more specific, those are entire books, and I see nothing about babies being born guilty of sin.
>Psalm 50:5
>Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
>And in sin my mother conceived me.
That's his mother's sin. We don't know exactly what sin his mother was doing, but it has nothing to do with David being born guilty of something.
>Ephesian 2:3 (by nature children of wrath)
>Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Pretty obtuse support. More likely pointing to our tendency to be weak in temptation. We know it doesn't mean something like we're born guilty of sin because Ezekiel 18:20 straight up says the son doesn't inherit the guilt of the father. Very specific. No interpretation needed.
>John 3:5
>"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."
Well yes, because all men have sinned, as Paul states. That comes in life after being an innocent baby. You choose to sin because it's rebellion against God. A baby can't choose that.

>>23288180
You are a false teacher. Your picture you post has no scripture whatsoever.

>>23287981 (OP)
Just double it and pass it to another person.

>>23288181
I mentioned Ephesians because it says “by nature” “children of wrath”.
So we inherit wrath ontologically.

Yes we don’t inherit the specific guilt of the sins of our direct father.
But we clearly inherit the consequences of the sin of Adam (Romans 5).
>Job 14:4
We can’t be born clean from unclean parents. It’s almost aphoristic, poetic, but a very meaningful verse.
Again you are putting your presupposition that there is no such thing as original sin in texts that do support that. So I’m asking you to prove that we are born in innocence.

guys i read the bible and i'm a bit conflicted. i do believe jesus is the son of God/is God, but i dont believe in his ideology which centers on radical/suicidal empathy. how can we convince jesus might is right and change his mind?

>>23288184
>But we clearly inherit the consequences of the sin of Adam (Romans 5).
Yes we inherit the consequences, not the guilt. No differently when how we inherited a societal mess from boomers. We're not guilty of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but suffer from it.

>>23288184
>Yes we don’t inherit the specific guilt of the sins of our direct father.
>But we clearly inherit the consequences of the sin of Adam
Then you're talking about ancestral sin, not original sin.
The original sin doctrine specifically includes inherited guilt.

>>23288187
I've always been curious about the ancestral guilt idea. Isn't that orthodox?

Arise, arise, rizzlers of Gohan! Fell memes awake, fire and cringe! Phones shall be shaken, tablets splintered! A new day is coming, a based day, a Skibidi day, ere the Gyatt rises! Ride now, ride now, ride to Goondor!

>>23287985
>>23288126
>science
>tel aviv made picture

>>23288032
yeah but if you were worshipping one of the real gods you wouldnt be such a pathetic cuck who needs forgiveness. all youre really doing is jewish mental gymnastics trying to deceive yourself convincingly about who you really are into being more like the slave archetype that your jewish masters provided to you.

when really, you should be more concerned about the lamentations of their women. or something based. blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne. almost anything, really, would be preferable than a manlet circumsized mortal jew able to be killed by jews dying on a stick crying for his jew daddy whom he married via the act of being circumsized (thats what those freemasonic boybride ceremonies are all about btw) to come and save him, rather than having the foresight or the capacity to not have been in that situation to begin with
>inb4 b-but da jew god
>inb4 sin
its just create jewish problem --> provide jewish solution
just dont be an npc. if youre not an npc, then you wouldnt think of your creators as npcs like yourself. they would be able to understand concepts like efficiency, and that talking snake making rib woman eating pieces of fruit falling well into the full blown retard tier that would be utterly unbecoming of a divine being. its no wonder you people pray to eternal silence and the gods wont speak to you anymore.

>>23289912
>the real gods

>>23290055
>as interpreted by a christcuck
or you can just ignore unhinged jew worshipper ramblings about sleipner fucking transfigured loki as a mare and 'traps arent gay' ladyboy thor altogether and simply know them for yourself
if you feel the need to consult human beings instead of the gods themselves, then it means its probably already too late for you. you already know the gods, they are your source, and are more natural to you than than your own reflection is in a mirror. its merely a process of remembering what you already know.

>>23288182
here, i have one of the og ones he posted. appears to be a sort-of jidf schematic for how to shill the jew worship. but i dont read jew. just judging off the non-hebrew numerals which they coopted because biblical jews were too stupid to differentiate between letters and numbers and just slopped it all together.
we wuzzers will probabiy call that gematriaic genius, when really its just one step removed from clicks and whistle jiggaboo speak

>>23290082
>if you feel the need to consult human beings instead of the gods themselves
unimpressive digits

>>23290411
yes, one of the great greek tragedies is people figured out their culture was being undermined, institutions like the oracle at delphoi were being manipulated in much the same way the magi operated, to manufacture consent for political change.
socrates at his trial shortly before his death asked why would the gods represent the worst in men?
anybody can write a fake story and attribute it to anyone, gods included. anyone can get into power and promote it to the masses. there are the fundamental questions the greeks were dealing with. that political convenience doesnt align with reality.

>>23290483
they would have been speaking a sandnigger ebonic, not english
but generally, its a word everybody can appreciate
everyone hates christcucks.. if no one gave a shit about charlie kirk. no one will give a shit for your average christcuck. TAD means TAD.