Thread 23308047

I need dental implants (full arches). Is it worth the cost? Any long term side effects?

>>23308047 (OP)
jamming threads into your naked gums and jaw bones as if you were a piece of machinery? completely safe

>>23308047 (OP)
Yes you will be vaxxed with nano tech and mRNA thru lidocaine injections

>>23308047 (OP)
how long can you wait? should be able to use mrna and regrow teeth within w decades.

>>23308047 (OP)
Get vampire teeth.... Or all gold

>>23308047 (OP)
holy christ this looks violent, just how bad your teeth are? meth addict level bad?

>>23308047 (OP)
It never fits and smells like AIDS

>>23308048
>>23308047 (OP)
DO NOT

THE JAPS MADE A PILL THAT GROWS A HIDDEN 3RD SET OF TEETH AND THE IMPLANTS WILL DESTROY THEM

>>23308047 (OP)
Get the fuck outta here George Washington
>>>/adv/

>>23308047 (OP)
How many? Even here they cost €600-800 each.

>>23308047 (OP)

Go to Costa Rica or Mexico.

I’m serious. Check it out. Both have world class dentists at a fraction of the price.

>>23308048
>>23308052
I have bone loss from years of missing teeth. It’s only going to get worse as I age. Not a meth head. My teeth were fucked up for as long as I can remember and I spent a shit ton of money trying to fix them over the years only for them to still decay.

>>23308048
based and servitorpilled
>>23308047 (OP)

>>23308047 (OP)
get zirconium implants instead of titan

better biocompatibility

>>23308048
zirconium exists chud

>>23308054
i've been researching teeth regrowing since 2012, there is 0 progress in this area being made

people throw money into dei, blm instead of actual issues that must be solved

>>23308047 (OP)
what kind of ignorant nigger asks for advice on /pol?

>>23308047 (OP)
I brush and floss immediately after a meal to prevent tooth loss.

>>23308047 (OP)
Go for it. Don't be a toothless faggot.

>>23308047 (OP)
Yea, I would just get them.

>>23308047 (OP)
Do medical tourist to Mexico full implants are 5k. Or wait a little longer and they will give you an injection and you'll grow new teeth

>>23308058
They wouldn't still be there doing it for 3rd world currency if they were.

>>23308059
And that's exactly why you should get the implants, you'll only lose more bone without them.

>>23308059
how did it come to this? how did your teeth get this bad? not brushing? eating too many sweets?

>>23308064
I brush and floss every 2-3 days then nuke my gums with picrel. You can be lazy and have good dental health. lol

>>23308063
Those who do not want to use reddit ?

>>23308064
You should actually wait a bit as your enamel is weakened from the acid in your meal directly after eating.

>>23308071
>>23308064
You will just cause even bigger gum recession with your extreme actions

>>23308047 (OP)
elaborate oral hygiene or you stink like a rotting corpse coming from your mouth

>>23308047 (OP)
No, they will corrode and need to be taken out in 30-50 years which taking them out costs the same as putting them in and causes complications in old age.

>>23308064
you should wait at least 30 minutes before brushing after a meal, you are actually harming your teeth now

>>23308073
True. He probably drinks american drink (coke containing literal acids) and then brushes. lmao
Wouldn't be surprised.

People here do wormpills and eat horse pastes as well thinking it's beneficial.

>>23308062
They have it working on mice and started human clinical trials like a year ago. I'm still waiting on an update

>>23308047 (OP)
I have all-on-6 top and bottom. Yes it is worth it. Have the work done in Mexico or another country to save tens of thousands of dollars.

>>23308047 (OP)

I took a huge shit while reading this

>plop

>>23308074
>You will just cause even bigger gum recession with your extreme actions
If it's good enough to trick my dentist, then it means it's working.
>>23308076
>No, they will corrode and need to be taken out in 30-50 years
Dental implants are only guaranteed to last for 10 years.

>>23308047 (OP)
There are drugs on the way which trigger regrowth of teeth.
All your teeth mind you, it's all or nothing.

>>23308079
>have it working on mice
Yes, that's what I read in 2012, only mice... Also some guy in America regrew his saw-cut-off finger with stem cells, but that's about it. No major progress in these regenerative medical areas.

>>23308061
yes, every new thing is the one that will solve the same problem the previous iteration was supposed to solve but couldn't
Every time.
>>23308059
sorry to hear that. in our modern times knowledge is easy to get but hard to master. we have too many health workers with very little competent ones and even less that care to do a good job.

Ideally you want someone with years of experience and you also trust. Since we can't get the latter focus on real life people who serve as a evidence to their work

People will talk about different technologies, that is the least important thing. A person with expertise is more important, just don't get anything with mercury and you'll be fine.

good luck

>>23308047 (OP)
Call the dental labs in your area and ask them which Dentist are good.

>>23308082
>trick my dentist
I dont go to dentist without a reason... Only when pain and I found some kind of cavity.

>>23308068
Good friend did it. Full mouth implants.. and they did a beautiful job.

$8000.00

Source: i used to own a Dental Lab and know a little something about it. (Those crowns that you pay $2000.00 for cost the Stare side dentist ~$145.00

>>23308088
>(Those crowns that you pay $2000.00 for cost the Stare side dentist ~$145.00
Where?
In Turkey ?

>>23308087
I do a deep cleaning every year or so. It's only €30.

>>23308059
implants increase amounts of leftover food that stays in your mouth
its best if you switch to gerber or a blender the rest of your days

>>23308054
I could see this going wrong and causing shit like Hyperdontia which looks like nightmare fuel. Suddenly everyone begins to become a human lamprey.

Did OP abandon thread?

>>23308059
First thing you probably gonna need is a massive bone transplant.. From other parts of jaw, or leg..

It's more difficult surgery than implant insertion itself.

>>23308059
Sounds like you are missing multiple teeth. Unless you are a richfag, swallow your pride and consider dentures.

>>23308070
the american diet is sugar rich. literally everything has sugar in it. even shit that's not supposed to be sweets. if you do not get yearly teeth cleanings, you will 100% get cavities. I only ever had 1 cavity as a kid because I got cleanings every 6 months, but when I became an adult and had to pay for it on my own, I went 6 years without a cleaning. figured if I flossed and brushed well it would be ok. I had like 5 cavities from that when I finally went in due to tooth sensitivity. no matter how good you flosh or brush you will get plaque buildup, and it's between the teeth so cavities form there. some spots are hard to keep a filling in good condition for years because it can get broken back off from eating. eventually it's just not worth the expense to keep building back up, so it's cheaper and less issue to just pull. I have all my teeth, but I know several people who had this happen. mostly people who don't have much money. tooth cleanings are retardedly expensive post-covid. everywhere around here is like $180 last I checked, and that was like 3 years ago. I'm doing the shit again of not going for years, but I don't eat candy, drink soda, and try to limit sugar since last time so hopefully it's not as bad. also, many people have problems with their teeth due to mouth breathing/snoring during sleep. it dries your teeth out. some people also just have rapid enamel loss genetically.

>>23308047 (OP)
I got a dental implant last year after I broke a front tooth at the root. Root canal wasn't an option because the break was too low down. Was a lot of hassle with the surgery and costed around $7k USD for the one implant. Still for me it's worth it for not having a missing front tooth. I had to have two surgeries, one to extract the rest of the root and put in a bone graft substrate, and one to place the implant and a healing abutment. About 6 months later I had the crown placed.

Bone loss was a big deal they kept talking about for me, they did a ton of xrays, but I didn't have any problem with that apparently. It might for you, or it might matter less if you are getting a full set of teeth they can prob be more flexible about where they place the implants, whereas mine went in right where the extracted tooth had just been. Talk to your dentist or a specialist periodontist can give you a better idea of where you're at.

As to how it feels, long term effects, I've just had it for a year. It doesn't feel like a natural tooth, but no pain or weird feeling, just no sensation. Apparently it's at least as strong as a normal tooth, and if it does ever crack or fuck up they can just take it off and chuck another crown on there like a tire change. When it happened I first asked my dentist what he would do if he were in my position and he said 100% implant.

No pain or anything weird but need to be diligent flossing and brushing (I already was) as any gum infection can fuck your shit up quick if bacteria gets into the implant sites. Took a long time to get a good match with my natural teeth going back and forth with the labs, again prob won't apply to you if you're getting all the same substance. I went for e.max btw. Good luck hope this info helps.

i brush my teeth once a week and mouth wash with Hydrogen peroxide and have never had a single cavity

>>23308089

https://www.goodnessdental.com/dental-procedures/dental-implants/

Tiajuana too!

>i dont use fluoride toothpaste because its jewish!
>pays a jewish orthodontist $10K for fake teeth

>>23308089

State side. My last crown cost $200.00

>>23308047 (OP)
Get steel uppers and flint lowers. Bite dynamite fuses to light them before you chuck sticks at your enemies.
Dope as hell.

>>23308047 (OP)
I need two implants aswell, had two root canals like 12 years ago which both ended up infected, now I have two infected root canals that need to be fixed and I'm not sure which material i should use for the implants

>>23308102
Sorry. $2000.00

>>23308047 (OP)
I have a bunch of tooth implants (for singular missing teeth) and they work perfectly fine for me.

>>23308047 (OP)
I have one dental implant and it’s awesome. It was hella expensive cost me 10k cash worth every penny. Can’t implant into bone loss though. I did mine because I had a tooth knocked out it looks great. Do NOT cheap out or you will regret it

>>23308047 (OP)
I had an adult tooth that grew in sideways and never made the baby tooth lose, they attempted to use my braces to straighten it and pull it by attaching chain to the main braces but the gap made the braces less strong. Also I was young so I fidgeted with it a lot.

Once they gave up on the tooth, they extracted it and implanted titanium implant.
I was a total dumbass and smoked weed a ton the semester after cuz of college girls but I think that introduced anaerobic bacteria that ate up some bone and caused chronic infection (pus would regularly come out if I squeezed). This may have happened naturally though as it can happen regardless.

My dentist couldn't even explain what was happening he thought I grinded my teeth and thats why I lost bone (retarded). I saw a periodontist out of my own volition and he agreed I was right about infection.

I have since waterpicked every single day but I actually blasted a pocket open and I think the chronic infection is gone. Only problem is, the screw pole is a bit exposed so food gets in there and I have to floss obsessively.

I went back to periodontist and he said that skin missing is actually good and allows for easier cleaning and less bacteria hiding and estimated I will get another 10 years at least out of implant as im not losing bone anymore and screw is still firm.


This was my experience but periodontist said most implants fail but usually older people get them and they die before the implant would fail, ill probably need one more before my 50s and then never again.

>>23308104
>which material i should use for the implants

Zirconium

>>23308104
>need two implants aswell
Same. Congenitally missing teeth here.

>>23308105
Then why EU flag if you're American ?

>>23308047 (OP)
It’ll be thousands for the surgery to have your teeth removed and to graft bone into place for the implants. I just did it in April of this year on my top and bottom and it cost me $15k. It still hurts too.

>>23308047 (OP)
Getting a tooth pulled is worse than getting the stud inserted into your jaw. Whether it is worth the cost is entirely subjective and up to you, but I wouldn’t be at all concerned with the actual procedure, other than checking the infection rates for the place that is doing it. If they don’t have better than industry averages (under 3%) for patients that need treatment for infections past the initial antibiotics they give, seriously do not use them.

>>23308108
>introduced anaerobic bacteria that ate up some bone and caused chronic infection

It's just bad implant job in some underground dental clinic. Did mexicans or blacks did it?

I do not save money on this crucial stuff. I'm gonna do implants in a certified facility here not in the cheapest available...

>>23308111
Way cheaper here.

Tooth removal is 30-80 euro.
Bone graft 500-1000 euro

Implant insertion 500 euro

Implant crown 500-2000 euro

>>23308113
He's actually an esteemed surgeon who I still talk to today, the reality is there's about a 30-40% chance the implant will fail. Of course they wont tell you that when theyre trying to sell you one but its known in the industry

>>23308047 (OP)
- they dont last forever, get ready for a new set every decade
- the whole thing is extremely painful and takes time
- bad breath not unusual
- things not so rarely go wrong

>>23308047 (OP)
>/pol/- dentally incorrect

>>23308047 (OP)
drilling holes in the jaw is a big deal. if they fuck it up in any way, its a way for mouth bacteria to get into to bone and into your system.
if it was me, i would figure out any way to have fake teeth that didnt drill into my jaw.

>>23308115
If you have good bone structure the reality is 95% chance it won’t fail for the back ones and lower front. It is the upper fronts where the bone is more porous where failure rates can hit double digits. If someone is doing worse than that, don’t go to them.

>>23308047 (OP)
your breathe is going to smell like shit forever if you do that.

>>23308047 (OP)
Just get dentures, cheaper and less pain, easier cleaning too.
Also you can make lewd gumjob comments to young women like a dirty old man.

>>23308115
Maybe some dirt/bacteria got introduced in that drilled hole...
I've read about this, then you're gonna deal with infection chronically forever, unless implant is removed completely - which means drilling a hollow cone across the entire implant screw and ruining and fucking more of your jaw bone.

odontology is probably the most jewish branch of medicine. mega corporations owned by kikes put harmful shit in the food they sell, they ruin our teeth, and then tell us to go to (((dentist))) and pay thousands for a fucking dental work.

fuck man I hate jews so much.

>>23308120
Only if you do implants in some underground clinic. Also you smell because you don't brush your tongue.

>>23308114
That’s very similar to what I payed in USD. From pulling the tooth to having the fake tooth was a total of 4k.

>>23308070
Probably a combination of bad genetics. Hygiene and living in the US. I know people who eat whatever they want, and only brush their teeth once a day and still have little to no issues with their teeth. It makes no sense.

>>23308048
>jamming threads into your naked gums and jaw bones as if you were a piece of machinery? completely safe
i know you are being facetious, but you should tell this feller what can happen when screwed are drilled into jawbone:

Implant instability / failure to achieve primary stability
Poor osseointegration (failure of bone to fuse with implant)
Wound dehiscence (gums don’t close properly over implant site)
Prolonged pain or swelling
Acute sinusitis (if maxillary sinus involved)
Foreign body reaction
Peri-implant mucositis (gum inflammation around implant)
Peri-implantitis (progressive bone loss and infection around implant)
Chronic sinusitis (from implant migration or sinus involvement)
Implant migration / displacement (into sinus, nasal cavity, or soft tissues)
Marginal bone loss (around implant neck)
Overloading and bone resorption (if biting forces exceed capacity)
Poor angulation esthetic or functional issues

Nerve pain syndromes (persistent paresthesia, dysesthesia, neuralgia)

Implant fracture (rare, but can happen under excessive load)

Abutment screw loosening or fracture

Crown or prosthesis fracture

Occlusal overload leading to bone loss or failure

Osteomyelitis of the jaw (severe infection spreading into bone)

Medication-related osteonecrosis of the jaw (MRONJ) in patients on bisphosphonates, denosumab, or chemotherapy

Implant-related foreign body sensation

>>23308122
Yeah ive read horror stories on reddit, im quite fortunate the bone loss has stopped and visible inflammation/signs of infection have lessened.

I've been without one of my molars (6-th tooth lower right jaw) for about a year.
It was annoying at first but now I'm used to it, but the idea of bone thinning still worries me.
From what I know it's easier and a lot safer to install implants in the lower jaw (more bone material, no chance to puncture into the sinus cavity etc).

I'm also considering laser eye corrective surgery for myopia but the side effects some people have will drive me mad if I end up with them afterwards.
What's been your experience anons?

>>23308111
It still hurts almost half a year later?

>>23308127
>Poor osseointegration (failure of bone to fuse with implant)
It's why you should get zironium screw

>>23308047 (OP)
just permanent nerve damage and horrible pain for the rest of your life that they can't cure
look up trigeminal neuralgia for a trip down nerve pain hell

>>23308054
>mRNA treatment to grow more sets of teeth
Oh lovely

>>23308130
my main concern is bacteria getting into the jawbone.
these implants are not to be taken lightly.
the other problem is if the bone cracks when being screwed into.

>>23308047 (OP)
Does anyone have experience with turkish dentists? Any recommendations? I need two implants and they cost like 3000 each here. Is the quality in turkey good or should i stay away

>>23308047 (OP)
Shitty teeth are a badge of honor within the collapse, shows you weren't complicit as a wagie and arent a fed ir other type of operative.

>>23308047 (OP)
My understanding is the body is constantly (albeit slowly) rejecting the implants the same as any foreign body.
There was a fad in the 1960s(?, maybe just in the UK) of getting all your teeth removed and implants put in. I think regrets were had.
>>23308060
Any good consoomable media for those uninitiated in that universe? I have no interest in tabletop.

>>23308135
>muh collapse
>2 weeks

lmfao

>>23308133
I have two teeth with infected root canals, which means there is bacteria, I'm scared shitless that it might spread or something

>>23308126
>I know people who eat whatever they want, and only brush their teeth once a day
i brush mine maybe 3x a year and havent had issue in 30 years of doing so, diet is mostly fiber and water with the occasional slop binge
never liked the taste of flouride
schizos are saying it fucks with your pineal gland anyway

>>23308133
>the other problem is if the bone cracks when being screwed into.
Machinists have solved this problem long, long ago. Do dentists not drill and tap?

>>23308047 (OP)

I have had major work done and have several implants.

At first they felt awful. Ut felt like a foreign object in my mouth... but around a week later it started to feel normal and in 2 weeks I had no pain in my mouth unless I do 2 things:

Very cold drinks cause a little pain. Very hot drinks cause a sharp pain.

Overall I am thankful I could do the work the utility of eating everything normally again outweighs the cons.

Also do not do the cheap shit like mexico/turkey they will fuck up.

>>23308137
All empires fall.

>>23308054
So I'm getting my teeth back before my hair?
This is just cruel

>>23308048
hes not doing it for fun, retard. theres a big cost to not doing it--having no teeth. do you think people who get chemo are stupid for poisoning themselves with toxic chemicals?

>>23308047 (OP)
Just get regular dentures.

>>23308059
if you have genetically weak bones, drilling holes and putting screws in them probably isn't a good idea.
I'd probably go with a dentist's advice though, not people on an anonymous website

>>23308059
Anon i was only 18 and already had 15% of bone loss on the chin due to prognathism and now the lower half of my face is titanium and my bones are better than ever. Get yourself a good physician, dentist whatever and go for it.

>>23308108
Re: mouth/sinus infections, tea tree oil is gods gift to mankind. It’s actually top fucking tier when it comes to decimating bacteria, viruses, fungus, etc, and according to a study done during COVID, it exponentially outperformed alcohol, iodine, bleach, hydrogen peroxide, and more, killing 99.99999% of the samples nearly instantly, while the products it was compared to took as long as 5 minutes to achieve the same effect.

If you’re able to handle it, one can apply tea tree oil directly to any given wound, even if it’s not an open wound as it seems to absorb well into the skin. Most people dilute it when their oil of choice, coconut/mct being my recommendation. Sore throat? Spray a bit to paint the back of your throat. Abscess? Use a Q-tip to apply several times daily until the pus drains, then continue for several more days. Also works great as deodorant, killing off the odor causing bacteria so as to need less deodorant in the future(note: can’t help you with sweat though). Put a few drops in your shampoo to keep dandruff under control, as well as the parasites that cause baldness. Few drops in your body wash as well.

>>23308047 (OP)
I remember some orthodentist guy a few years back was trying his absolute hardest to convince me to have dental surgery in order to install a metal wire in my right side jawbone so I could straighten out the right lower side of my teeth. He told me if I dont that entire row of teeth will be fucked up by the time I turn 50. Told him I dont plan to live that long and that I am not having surgery and foreign object implants because of a couple of croocked teeth. Said this rather loudly in hearing distance of his all-female staff and several waiting patients. The short fuck looked at me like I called his whore mother a prostitute or something

>tl;dr Dentists are greedy and messed up in the head

>>23308147
>bones better than ever
>replaced by titanium
>not technically bones anymore strictly speaking, more like reinforced bones or composite bones, but indeed far ‘better’

>>23308073
that's a myth

>>23308148
Tea tree oil also does help quite a bit with pain, but clove oil does a far better job, and does provide some antiseptic qualities, but not nearly what tea tree oil can provide. Combine both treatments if you’re in horrific pain, and take ibuprofen every 4hrs until the swelling etc is under control.

>>23308074
my teeth are fine

>>23308094
>bone transplant
this, my mother had her front teeth knocked out when she was a teenager because some idiot (female) classmate raised her hockey stick in a pass
fast-forward 40 years and she needed bone grafts to reinforce her upper jaw so the implants would bind properly, took about 2 years for the whole process.

>>23308084
What's preventing it from being viable?

>>23308059
I'd get implants if I were you. Eating food is more enjoyable. Just remember to floss all the time, or after every meal. Flossers cost less than a nickel. Would you rather spend 60 bucks on a whole year's worth of flossers or would you rather spend 2-5 grand per tooth? I learned about decay the hard way and changed my habits if I wanted to keep the other teeth, I go for checkups every half year.
>floss
>brush before bed and in morning
>tongue scraper
>gargle mouthwash with hydrogen peroxide after breakfast

>>23308144
>do you think people who get chemo are stupid for poisoning themselves with toxic chemicals?
yes

>>23308092
>Hyperdontia
damn just learned about it, I love it

>>23308144
Lmao at the thought of doing any kind of dental work “for fun”, it’s such an unfathomable concept that it’s absurdly funny.

brehs how "expensive" are we talking about here?
because i heard people do just fine for few thousand euros

>>23308047 (OP)
Get stainless steel ones like Jaws!

>>23308160
I was quoted $75k by my normal dentist and my dental insurance caps out at $2,500. Shit's fucked here in burgerland.

>>23308162
Um, that's ludicrous. I rather give to Yidsrael with haste.

>>23308163
I gave my money to Mexico instead. They did a good job as far as I can tell.

>>23308162
>$75k
what in the actual shit?
dude come to europe and do all teeth for like $5000

>>23308047 (OP)
>I need dental implants (full arches).
I'm 49 and still have all my my teeth minus one wisdom fucker
why are you so genetically inferior?

>>23308047 (OP)
Helped my mom get hers, it's a nightmare ,for once you need bone implants , the whole thing will take a few months cuz you need to heal in between implants
>expensive
Don't go to a nobody to save a penny
Even in this piece of shit country a good dentist cost quite a bit
Upwards of 35k
Everything done ,bone addition etc.
Took her 6 mths cuz shit was too painful
She says it's worth it, so i'm glad i could help cuz she couldn't afford it

>>23308124
no, retard. When you get fake teeth, there's a lot more places food can get stuck in. You create MORE nooks for food to hide. Ask Baba Booey aka TaTa Toothy

>>23308047 (OP)
could just get a gum donation from kirk

>>23308129
I cured my myopia naturally, through years of vision training. Glasses are one of the biggest fuckups in mankind's history. There's a reason you squint when you struggle to see things. The muscles around your eyes control its focus. When people have good vision, those muscles are tightly in control. That is why when people get old they lose both their near and far vision. Both examining something very close to your eye, like a book, and something very far, like a target, require well trained vision. Many people are deficient at one or the other and this is usually due to lack of practice. For example, if you are like most modern Westerners, you spend up to 16 hours a day using your eyes on things that are very close, such as a book, and you don't spend a single hour a day using your eyes on things that are far away, like a target. Do what you can to change this ratio and your eyes will adapt to the tasks you engage them in. A very large number of westerners have been convinced that improving your vision naturally is impossible, and the unfortunate reality is that glasses severely damage peoples' social skills.

>>23308058
this
saved 7k for 2 implants in CR
fuck US dentists

>>23308167
35k Euros for all teeth?

>>23308167
Did it affect her head game?