My wife is 1 month pregnant and apparently first year baby costs are like 20-30k USD according to normie sites. WTF how do I deal with this? She’s gonna be a stay at home mom so daycare costs should be less right?

Are you wiping your baby's ass with golden toilet paper? Where did that number come from?

>>60476855
70% is from daycare

Diapers alone are like $300 a month...lol
Good luck OP!

>>60476878
use cloth ones obviously. if she's a stay at home mom she can afford to make baby food and do the shit diaper laundry. all those costs are for retards. everything is a luxury your baby can live without them and a stay at home mom doesn't "need" them

>>60476852 (OP)
Are you thinking of aborting, Op?
There's still a chance she might miscarry.
Have you heard of the hot tub trick?

>>60476852 (OP)
push her down the stairs

>>60476852 (OP)
Buy baby clothes from secondhand stores or thrift stores they are often very cheap. Cloth diapers too. Also.. elimination communication. Look er up. With our first child,a boy, he was pretty much potty trained by a year. Makes a lot less shit diaper laundry.

Godspeed OP

Does my heart well to know breedoids are such exploited paypigs

>>60476870
>She’s gonna be a stay at home mom
>70% is from daycare

from a finance perspective, I looked at these two pieces of information and then I used a calculator to reduce $20K-30K by 70% to arrive at a new estimate
>$6K-$9K

I'm pretty experienced at this so it was easy for me

I've only spent like 5k on baby costs and it's been a year.
It's likely to cost less money as time goes on.

>>60476852 (OP)
just don't pay. simple as

If the establishment wants another gdp slave it needs to completely pay for it simple as

>>60476878
A diaper costs 30 cents if you buy the best quality diapers. Even if you spend 10 diapers a day, that's only 90 dollars a month.

>>60476936
They use gold plated carriages and diapers

>>60476852 (OP)
You'll be fine anon, don't listen to jews who don't want you to reproduce. Having a child costs very little, in fact it's really quite easy to manage, even affording high quality stuff - buy cotton clothes, sheets, natural diapers, etc. I thought I would struggle but it's really not bad at all. Make sure the wife breastfeeds too of course, it will immensely help the health of your child and your wallet.

The woman move is to max out maternity leave while getting paid before quitting.
Depending on what state Op lives in, maybe he should become female too now?
He's definitely going to get fucked hard in divorce in <10 years. The courts like to keep kids with the mother and keep them in the house they were accustomed to living in.

Join the Army. I'm not even kidding.

Also refuse all vaccinations. Hep B, DPT, etc. All of it. No vax.

Do those BTC ATMs work for making cash deposits to offline cold wallets? I mean, Is there a way to plug a cold wallet into one of those ATMs? I've never used one.

He should start carrying $400 or $500 cash in his wallet every month.
At the end of each month, if possible, put ~$450 cash into a cold wallet. This way, there's no record of the transaction for the divorce lawyers to find. He could do that every month for 7 or 8 years or whenever his wife decides to get rid of him. He'll get to keep an off-the-record nest egg of his own money at least. I hope the baby visually looks like his child at least.

>>60476997
There is no such thing as a cold wallet. Typically you scan QR codes to use them.

>>60477009
oh okay yeah it has a QR code on it you scan and if you lost it, it would be gone, right?

I'm not talking about any shared or not shared bank accounts Op and his lovely wife have. Those would be found very easily in discovery, no?

>>60476969
Only if you married an American. My wife is extremely submissive and conservative and lost her virginity to me.
Very low divorce odds, but even if that happens I have inheritance which is untouchable and not comingled

>>60476997
I do have a stash of .5 BTC on cold wallet that I generated years ago, there are Coinbase records but if I close my CB account now what are the odds of anyone finding it years from now?

Not that I expect divorce but it’s always good to have a plan B in the event my wife becomes corrupted by feminists in this hellhole of a country

>>60477040
ok fair enough. what kind of financial advisors would /biz/ be if we didn't discuss your risks with you

>>60477009
>There is no such thing as a cold wallet
exactly

>>60476852 (OP)
Just do what spics do and predate on a functioning society. It's not hard. Just make it some other civilizations problem that you exist and are able to reproduce.

>>60476852 (OP)
>I want to gift Shlomo a new baby
You must PAY for the privilege of offering Shlomo a replacement wageslave.
>I can't afford it
WORK HARDER FAGGOT.

>>60476958
Right and once the baby is like 3 months diaper use drops bigly

>>60477040
Explain

>stay at home mom
>baby costs
Nigga wat, 90% of those costs are related to not being able to take care of the baby yourself like sending it off to daycare, feeding it Goyformula and buying samite diapers. If your wife is breastfeeding like a woman should, and hell the baby can be naked for the most of the day if your wife is keeping tabs on it so diapers are only needed for the night and morning (who cares if the kid shits in the yard)

How the fuck do hoodrat niggresses have 6 kids on food stamps, but middle class white people can't afford one kid?

>>60476953
>likely to cost less
lol no, maybe if you’re a really shitty parent

>>60477284
>if you're a shitty parent
Could you elaborate on this? Is the goal of parenting to become a bigger consumer or are you saying that a person who achieves higher means in life to spend more is a better person?

>>60477026
They are made for morons to use. You deposit cash and it gives you a wallet, printing it all out for you with QR codes. I'm sure if you lose it then you probably didn't have much to worry about.

>>60476997
BTC -> ETH -> TornadoCash -> Monero

"AH GEEZE DOOD, I dunno I lost it all on online sports betting"

>>60476852 (OP)
Neither of you have moms?

>This dude just busted in a girl with no plan whatsoever.

>>60477294
>Could you elaborate on this? Is the goal of parenting to become a bigger consumer or are you saying that a person who achieves higher means in life to spend more is a better person?
I think he means that you should invest in your children and give him ample opportunities.
for example paying for him to do sports, private school and never lacking anything materially

A huge part of the cost of being born is that American's normalize it being done in a hospital. Birth is natural human function that the overwhelming majority of women can achieve just fine at home. In Europe, a mid-wife coming to attend a home birth (where most of the time they just act as a coach of sorts) is the default for maternal care. American shunts them into hospitals, where they are surrounded by people trained to find and see problems where there aren't any. The majority of women with planned hospital births with be given pitocen to induce labor unnecessarily. Their kids will have antibiotics smeared on their eyes as soon as they are born just in case their mom had STDs, and that's assuming an unplanned C-section wasn't done mostly out of convenience for the attending.

>>60476967
Correct and fatherhoodpilled. Remeber though, fed is what's best for baby. Some women absolutely drive themselves up the wall trying to BF when their bodies simply can't do it. If that's your wife, you must exert your authority as her husband and make sure your kid is growing. You can look into milk banks in your area to supplement her supply, or make your own home made formula using recipes from the the Weston A Price foundation. They're based on chicken broth, liver, a mixture of good oils, and lactose. Once your kid can handle solids at around 6 months, they will grow like a weed.

>>60476986
Also correct. OP should get a copy of Dr. Paul Thomas' first book "the vaccine friendly plan", and then his follow up book he wrote a year ago. He goes from giving evidence based suggestions to space and limit the official vaccine schedule to evidence based suggestions to ban them entirely.

>>60477440
>sports
Travel teams and the pursuit of professional sports success are one the biggest problems in current parenting. Don't fall into that trap. Read "Family Unfriendly" by Carney for a good read into why our society is profoundly oriented against rearing kids to be functional people.

>>60477509
Sports promote athleticism and teamwork and is one of the healthiest ways to develop social bonds. You sound like the type of autist who'd homeschool their kids too and have them turn into turbo spergs.

>>60477509
Cont.
If you just found out your expecting, it should be easy to find a practicing midwife in range of you. Would strongly recommend "Ina May's Guide to Childbirth", written by one of the single most experienced midwives alive. We paid about $7,000 for a midwife, and she attended the birth, did followup visits, and did a full set of well-woman visits during the pregnancy, checking for good positioning and ensuring we were good to go for the planned home birth.

Prenatal nutrition is important. If your wife isn't super sick the whole time, eating fat-rich, whole foods is a good idea. Eggs, red meat, small fish, liver. Prenatal vitamins are all over the place; Thorton's is higher cost, but they focus on using the most bio-available forms of the vitamins. Read "Real Food for Pregnancy".

Skip the ultrasounds, they are likely harmful to baby. The sort of life threatening problems that you might detect with sonograms are also the sort that medicine wouldn't be able to help with anyway.

Going stay-at-home mom is actually a solid financial move for a lot of couples. Consider that if she worked a 40k/year job, daycare and all the running around costs would eat most of that away. So for a small reduction in net take-home, she gets to stay home, your kid doesn't deal with the anxiety and separation of constantly having mom leave him with strangers, and it also facilitates vaccine skepticism. Additionally, the tax brackets for couples assume you both earn the the same amount. A couple where dad alone brings in 100k/year is taxed as if he and his wife were both individuals earning only 50k/y each.

>>60477522
I'm glad you decided to knee jerk instead of read. Let me help you to do so this time:
>TRAVEL TEAMS and the PURSUIT OF PROFESSIONAL SPORTS SUCCESS are one of the biggest problems in current parenting.

There's nothing wrong with kids playing in the local rec leagues or in their school teams, and generally speaking, high school and college athletes do better than the student body in general. A local home school co-op and the families around it can usually field a pair of baseball teams if need be, too.

The issue comes with kids spending every day between the ages of 11 and 20 trying to become the next 1st baseman for the Yankees. They're dropping the other sports that they would have played in the off season, constantly on the road, and accumulating so much movement specific damage that we've got high school seniors getting surgeries typically reserved for professional players. And its usually for nothing in the end because either the kid burns out and hates it, or some genetic freak takes his slot in the feeder leagues.

Also, I sincerely hope you take teaching your kids into your own hands instead of listening to the establishment that you otherwise hate when it tells you to trust them with your children. We spend more than ever to get less every year. Our educational achievements have decreased year on year since we've had a department of education. Jimmy can't read but he knows who to ask for Estrogen. Ask what kind of person benefits from this, and then ask what kind of person would choose to have their kid participate in it.

Read the methods from Charlotte Mason, and maybe E.D. Hirche's "Cultural Literacy" to get a great idea about how far our standards have fallen for reading in young kids.

How can babies be that expensive? What the fuck?

They eat like 500 calories a day and it comes from your wife’s titties. They use diapers but that’s probably like 50 a month.

>>60477612
You need a crib, bassinet, clothes, drs visits, car seat, stroller, toys, baby cam, decorations for the room, breast pump/bottles, etc. Each of these can cost a few hundred. Plus babysitter and daycare is $$$

>>60476852 (OP)
Are you both vaxxed or unvaxxed

>>60477619
Why doesn't America offer maternity leave ? The first 3-5 yrs of a baby's life is crucial to bonding with its mom and to lesser extent dad.

Putting your kid in childcare is throwing money away and allowing your child to be changed fed and clothed by a stranger. Again see above. Plus where are the grandparents?

>>60477594
>every day between the ages of 11 and 20 trying to become the next 1st baseman for the Yankees.
No they don't. You're making stuff up.

>>60476878
>Source: your ass
Ask me how I can tell you are a lying incel. Diapers are no where near $300 a month

>>60476852 (OP)
Why is she dropping it off at daycare if she's a stay-at-home mom? Are you retarded?

>>60477594
No one here has the genetics to spawn a top tier professional athlete.

>>60477284
A baby needs love and care not luxury retard.

>>60476852 (OP)
our baby cost approximately $0 for the first year. We maybe spent $100 on formula. all his clothes, toys, cot, pram, reusable diapers etc were given to us by friends and family.
You have friends and family, right OP?

>>60477294
Kids need clothes, shoes, food, school supplies, other activities and sports. Preschool costs money. Private school costs money. Braces. Saving for college. Saving for a car. Saving for a down payment. V

>>60477440
Yes exactly. Well said.

>>60476852 (OP)
It's $5k less if you don't circumcise

People love to pull numbers out of their asshole

>>60476870
It's way worse than than 30k, considering daycare before age 3 makes your kid retarded

>>60476852 (OP)
the real expense will be your "stay at home mom" wife
have her learn something to work remote jobs or some shit. or maybe she could make and sell overpriced excel calculators for local boomers

>>60476986
enjoy the diphtheria

>>60478202
>private school needs money
Public school.

>Saving for college
Time to take out some loans, kiddo!

>Braces
I never had braces, and no one in my family ever had braces.

>Saving for a car
Time to take out loans, kiddo!

>Saving for a down payment
Time to take out loans, kiddo!

>>60476852 (OP)
Have a home birth with a midwife (My kids were like 6k each). Cloth diapers. Breastfeeding. Those numbers are anti-natalist scare tactics. Way inflated.

Having someone look after the children and the house is cheaper than daycare and a maid, plus your kids aren't getting propagandized. I'm the single earner, and we do fine. Hospitals and the system will rape you if you let them.

>>60476870
Who the fuck puts their newborn baby into daycare in the first year?

>>60476878
Absolute nonsense, kys virgin neckbeard

>>60480214
>Who the fuck puts their newborn baby into daycare in the first year?
A ton of retards.

>>60476852 (OP)
Babies are cheap, that's why shitskins can afford to have so many of them.
The big costly mistake is to ask other people to raise them (daycare and such).

>>60476878
I used cloth diapers for my kids.
They did cost $300... once.

>>60477281
Everyone can afford it. Children being expensive is a lie.

Daycare is expensive if you're institutionalizing your children from birth.

>>60477619
You're a cringe consoomer.
You don't need a crib. A baby can sleep with you in bed until he's old enough to have his own bed.
You don't need a bassinet either. Sit in the shower and put your child on your legs.
Clothes are extremely cheap second hand since kids grow very fast.
Dr visits are rare for most people.
You don't need a stroller, a cheap carryon is better.
Babies don't need toys, give them a wooden spoon and a piece of cloth.
Baby cam is an old phone, everyone has old phones with whatsapp or whatever.
You don't need to decorate the room.
Breast pumps can be expensive if you have trouble feeding naturally, yes.
You don't need a babysitter/daycare if you raise your old children.

>>60477829
>formula
yikes

>>60476852 (OP)
>20-30k USD according to normie sites.

Have you tried using your own brain instead?

>>60483799
>I used cloth diapers for my kids.
>They did cost $300... once.

This - there are very good reusable systems out there for a one-off amount. Much better as well in terms of not having BS materials against their skin

>>60480214
>Who the fuck puts their newborn baby into daycare in the first year?
Some, actually. I had to do administration work practice at a kindergarten, and besides excel you help around and talk a bit - they had a ~1yo baby. It was exceptional but happened. The joys and wonders of modern labor where both parents work fulltime. Oh, there were also a couple like 58 year old dads with <4 year old kids too.

>>60483896
and coffee. don't forget the coffee you brought people sometimes.

>>60476870
You'd put a kid less than a few years old in daycare, especially with a stay at home mom? I guess you're also planning on pumping it full with vaccines? I feel sorry for your kid already

>>60483985
Nah, never.
I did share an office with the company programmer and was hearing some "bang", "bang" noises sometimes.
Turns out dude was watching livestreams of Gaza shit, a low intensity firefight lmao.

>>60476852 (OP)
>first year baby costs are like 20-30k USD
Where can I buy? It's cheap.

>>60476852 (OP)
You need to start selling her dirty panties by mail.
There used to be multiple subreddits devoted to the trade.
Guys will pay a fucking fortune for genuine fresh preggo panties with a nice thick layer of grool and maybe a little piss staining. Just have your wife lay down against you while you stroke her clit through the panties until she's had a few orgasms, be sure to scoop her out a little, and list the pair for $50, you'll get multiple takers.

>>60477009
The dumbest take possible. What do you think a "cold wallet" is?

Generate the private keys offline, print a QR code of the address, scan the QR code at the BTM, wa-la. All a "cold wallet" is, is a set of private keys that have never been put at risk of being made visible on an online computer.

voila

>>60476852 (OP)
>first year baby costs are like 20-30k USD
They aren't. Not even remotely.

>>60476855
Jews that want you to stop having white kids.

>>60484688
Damn. Not a bad idea honestly. Could make thousands of dollars if you start early and go a year after birth.

lower middle class people manage to do it. and im not talking about welfare queens. im talking about the walmart families where they already have 3 obese kids and the dad works in a steel mill

>>60479888
>have a home birth with le midwife
ok Amish, chekced btw

>>60484688
people who buy panties also want to sext with the seller like its onlyfans. i dated a girl in college that wanted to do it and i said you can but you cant show your face or talk explicitly with them. she realized that you cant sell them otherwise and decided not to do it.

>>60476898
>>60476929

Cloth diapers are disgusting. My wife tried to be eco friendly and use them but it is so nasty having poop in the washing machine. Even if you do separate loads you are using tons more water so are u really being eco friendly? I guess it makes sense if you don’t have a lot of money . But if you are financially comfortable diapers are worth it

>>60476852 (OP)
Don’t buy baby food. Breast feed then switch to baby led weening. You don’t need a ton of toys to enrich your baby. Don’t change your baby’s diaper if they only peed a little.

>>60485245
rinse them off in the bathtub first. jesus christ that’s gross.

>>60485027
I don't, I just want to contemplate the aroma.

>>60485627
this guy gets it

>>60485245
you don't put them in the washer full of shit lol. gotta empty in toilet and/or spray off in the shower/clean in bathtub. depends how much poo there is

What >>60487140 says is right. You just get a little bidet-like sprayer that hooks into the supply line for your toilet, and use it to carefully hose of the poop into the bowl. Easy install.

Few more things OP. For those first 3 months give him plenty of skin to skin contact. Mostly this will be with mom, but you can too. Just holding your baby shirtless or letting him fall asleep on you works. Babies' autonomous nervous systems don't know how to work yet, and they will take cues from your body. Its why sometimes very little babies start crying and cannot stop until they run out of steam and fall asleep. They don't know how. Being up against you teaches their body what a relaxed heart rate and breathing rate is.

I would seriously recommend thinking about doing a planned home birth. You stay outside of a lot of the worst the American medical system can do to your wife and child that way. If you can't, or won't, then you need to understand what rights your wife and child have as patients and that you have as their advocate.

>You will be pushed towards chemically inducing labor if "it's taking too long" (read: it's inconvenient for the staff). Refuse. Induced kids have a higher rate for attachment disorders.

>Your wife will almost certainly be pushed to take IV antibiotics "just in case we have to rush to surgery". Refuse. Nuking gut flora and causing a die off right before she's going to start breastfeeding, sounds like a great idea!

>Early in consultations they will try to get you to do a C-section. Unless your wife has placenta previa, or another condition that legitimately makes vaginal birth too risky to try, refuse. Each C-section makes the next pregnancy more likely to fail (scars on the uterus). And after the first one a hospital will basically refuse to let her have a natural birth.

>If its a boy they will try to circumcise, sometimes after you have refused. Watch them like a hawk.

>Refuse the Hep B vax. It's beyond worthless.

>>60476852 (OP)
Father of 3 here
First years cost barely anything, I'd say 3-4k a year max
What costs is upgrading the whole family when it grows: bigger car, bigger house, etc...
But don't think about it financially, it will never make any sense in the modern judeo-nigger world
It's about being "children rich" when you're in your 50s ans 60s

Good luck and don't vax your kids

>>60476852 (OP)
I've got 3, they each cost me about $5k. About double the price of a purebred dog from a quality breeder, seems fair for a child I suppose.

>>60487140
>>60485627
Ok guys sorry I think we were talking about different things. I have two kids and one is 8 months old and up until this point, infant poop of breastfed only baby’s is pretty much just liquid. Yeah you can rinse off a little of it but it pretty much completely soaks the cloth and after rinsing plenty of it is still swishing around in the washing machine. I’m not talking about big semi hard and hard dookies going straight in the washing machine lol. I agree for hard dookies it could make more sense. But still nothing beats the ease of nice diapers like Coterie especially if you are a bit of a hypochondriac.

>>60476852 (OP)
I have an 11 month old. Hospital costs were pricey when he was born but since then I'd guess we've spent less than ~$5K USD on the baby. Definitely nowhere near $20-30K

>>60479620
The DPT shot in particular is a huge swindle.

>>60488798
until your kid dies

>>60477653
>maternity leave
you shut your whore mouth. this is /biz/ not /mom/
some of us are trying to build something that won't die with a DWI in 16 years

>>60477319
Monero is enough, no need to lose fees on the other steps

>>60476852 (OP)
I'll give you some real insight. Before kids, I had 3 - 4k in disposable income a month. It was great, I was invest it everywhere. Now with a kid Im 7 days a week and we barely break even, maybe saving $500 a month. Why? Because doing at the stay at home thing means you'll be supporting 2 other people. So the cost of everything from food to toilet paper, everything is 3x. If shes at home, thats no income. Diapers, wipes, etc all add up little by little. Normies do this by going deep into debt. 60% of Americans wouldnt be able to cover an unexpected 1k expense. Kids are a big reason why. Im not trying to scare you, Im just giving you the no bullshit outlook.

>>60479774
Like I said, if you don’t want to be a shitty parent.

>>60488926
Ok trust the science.

>>60476852 (OP)
>first year baby costs are like 20-30k USD
bullshit. least here in euroland thats total bullshit

>>60490322
here, learn a thing or two, faggot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFjMmKLkVOE

>>60476852 (OP)
fuck thats crazy
imagine five

>>60477040
>. My wife is extremely submissive and conservative and lost her virginity to me.
>Very low divorce odds, but even if that happens I have inheritance which is untouchable and not comingled
/biz/ larps are getting worse and worse

>>60477040
Just because modern women aren't submissive doesn't mean that divorce is a fucking certainty lmao. Most people, including women, are influenced quite strongly by the opinions of their parents and family (obviously you should not ever associate with anyone who has "cut off" their family. ESPECIALLY romantically). There is such a great deal of shame in divorce, plus the genuine concern for the children's well being. You literally see people who *should* get divorced (and who both agree they should get divorced) choose to stay together for the children's sake. Obviously snakes exist, but I don't buy this whole myth that they're everywhere. Plus I'm pretty sure that whole "50% of marriages end in divorce" statistic is fake. Even if it isn't, it's skewed. If some deadbeat has 5 marriages and then the 6th one sticks... that's 5 divorces he's added to the pile. Whereas a single faithful couple literally can't add more than one successful marriage to the pile.

>>60476852 (OP)
You struggle, just like every one else. Chad dads are retired by the kid comes out. When I was a kid, all my friends parents were retired or very very rich.

>>60476852 (OP)
>$20-30k for a full year
Is that supposed to be a lot? Are you underaged?

>>60492509
*by the time the kid comes out

>>60492510
stop larping, the American median household income is $100k.

>>60492521
The median American lives in some trailer park in Alabama, I assume. Nobody I know around where I live makes that little.

>>60492598
So what? It is only big cities where wealth is concentrated. It doesn’t matter, the American median household income is $110k. And even 300K income cannot afford a 1m lifestyle in a big city. Most people are poor af.

>>60492598
Also, from recent /pol/ I have come to the conclusion that it is mostly mexicans and poor whites living in a rural cheap areas.
If you live around rich people, and you dont play online games or dont know the stats, you will never interact with poor or normal people. In my online games, almost everyone is from bumfuck nowhere with wierd American accents and I can tell they rural/poor.

>>60477653
There's the grandparents.

>>60476852 (OP)
If the baby is white then what a delight if it’s brown than flush it down

>>60492620
>so what I’ve observed from /pol/ and Habbo Hotel is….

>>60476870
If you ever use daycare you deserve to euthanized. Literally the number one problem in the development of children these days, far worse than tablets or phones.

>>60492714
I am not wrong though. I never realized how poor most people were and I thought the whole usa was like prime LA. I thought all Americans lived like people from LA but 95% of Americans cannot even afford prime LA.

Babies are free.
Believe it or not. Women have had babies before the 90's doctors all gave them those spine injection painkillers.
They drink milk from your wife's breast if you didn't know.
She just makes milk from the food she already eats.
Sure. Diapers. Maybe Google what women did before Johnson & Johnson existed.

is daycare really that bad? I mean i get it its important to bond with the baby but I think when kids get a bit older they like spending time with other kids

You can do babies for quite cheap ($500sh a month) or they can be as expensive as you and your wife permit (ie. 5k a month).
If you get second hand shit, you can get free stuff off marketplace which is almost in brand new condition.

If your wife gets brainwashed into wanting brand new everything and recommended items - you're looking at anywhere $15k-$30k for the initial outlay (furniture, photos, carseats, feeding accessories, wifes maternity shit, doctors, scans). This is before any daycare.

Don't listen to the retards saying daycare is bad for kids. Make your own decisions. Try to avoid fulltime and make sure you find a high quality one, they will advance faster and experience more than kids without it.

>>60492914
Tbh first year they should be at home bonding with the mother - especially the first kid. After that if you get the right place it can be very community focused but they require effort to seek out and you need to generally apply around a year in advance. Many parents use daycare as a tool to never see their kids because they're shit parents - they put them in there at 6am after they wakeup and pick them up at 7pm when they're ready to sleep.

>>60492971
actually, second hand babies are more expensive than first hand babies.

>>60476852 (OP)
If you’re white you have to send them to daycare. Only shitskins stay at home like monkeys and breastfeed. Give that baby real white man food from infant formula like a real civilized white man.

>>60492998
gr8 b8 m8

>>60492914
You must never socialize your child or they'll get a bunch of secular ideas about Jews into their mind. Your wife should be at home with the child 24/7. Also you should get mad at her for being a leech on society for not paying any taxes when she does this.

Itt: childless virgins
Diapers are expensive, and you go through them pretty quickly. Daycare is expensive, little this and that comes up. That furniture and crib doesn't come from nowhere. Car seats, bibs, bottles, clothing, food, formula, mom crap. It adds up real quick.

>>60476878
rage status: baited

>>60476852 (OP)
>20-30k USD
It's all hospital bills.
Just don't pay them because the system is a scam.
Raising a baby for the first year is like... breastmilk + a few hand me down clothes.