>>60560988 (OP)
Jew banks gamble with goyim money

>>60560988 (OP)
all my money is in crypto, kys shlomo

>>60560988 (OP)
You'll own nothing and you'll be happy

>>60560988 (OP)
europe is admitting they are so far behind they need to gamble to catch up, using your money of course.

>>60560988 (OP)
>finance EU priorities

Like what? Replacement of white peoples with the biggest Somalian nigger retards, goat fucking Muslims and street shitting jeets?

>>60560988 (OP)
>I don't get it
they want war and the want us to pay for it

>>60560988 (OP)
I am not interested in satanist rituals sorry bernsteinbergergoldblaum.

Savings aka rugpull. Lmao. How long until Europoors start taunting us with their government mandated IRAs?

>>60561016
yes

>>60561016
The (((EU))) priorities is to make elites richer, so yes.
Cheap labor + housing inflation is everything they love.

>>60560988 (OP)
forced bag pump

I already have20% of my portfolio (5+ figures) in fucking eu stocks. Am I a good goi? This going to look good on my social credit score?

>>60561052
Sell

>>60560988 (OP)
>The ponzi is collapsing! We need more investors!

>>60560988 (OP)
I consider this good since most retail savings investments are being channeled in Euro government bonds anyway, this is just less risk averse.
A savings account in Germany is financing the Romanian government due to the high yield of their bonds, or investing in Euro backed MMF funds.
The thing which this implies which is good is the probable reduction of fees in European stock exchanges which would make this more enticing to yuros, since most of the yuros who invest do so in S&P and channel their capital to the US, which is sort of bad for us here.
A uniform platform for investment and increased defense spending was the whole point of Draghi's report.
A huge amount of financial capital is being spilled over to the outside due to the shit Yuro laws and exchanges.
Just look at the KID bullshit..

Isn't this basically like what Australia does with it's "superannuation"

IE: Gov forces every employer to pay their employees 10% of their income to a forced investment account (superannuation)

>>60561009
>You'll own nothing and you'll be happy
Technically investing is the opposite of owning nothing compared to holding cash.

>>60560988 (OP)
Foreigners cannot understand how vicious, corrupt, and cowardly the EU is. They are nothing but manipulative and bloodsuckers. Nothing they do is of any real interest.

>>60561067
Owning something means you have control over it, if the EU can simply take your "savings" and use it for their own purposes, then you never owned them to begin with. It is with this fallacy that most people believe they have wealth, a number in a brokerage or bank account can be taken/seized from you at a moment's notice, whereas Gold and BTC/ETH cannot without the use of force.

>>60561052
Investing in a yuro stocks was the right thing to do this year if you are a local, since they had higher relative growth due to the depreciation of the dollar.
I still haven't made the S&P gains from last year back due to the currency depreciation.
Will probably normalize when the Orange man gets deposed.

>>60561089
>Investing in a yuro stocks was the right thing to do this year if you are a local, since they had higher relative growth due to the depreciation of the dollar.
that was the idea, yeah. worked out quite well. The rest of my portfolio is in the s&p500 tho so yeah, lost quite a bit there not that it matters since no one knows how shit will look like in 10-20 years.

>>60561087
So you're saying private investment is a good thing after all?

>>60561096
As long as that private investment is self-custodied, yes. Digital Cash, Savings, Equities, Options, Futures, Bonds, all these paper derivatives are not real assets (though they are investments) and should not be treated on the same level as physical cash, precious metals, and cryptocurrencies.

>>60561061
Yes. It’s incredibly cucked and robs the employer of the ability to pay that money to the employee directly. It’s also given the Aus government a massive slush fund to raid when they get desperate enough. Communist tier shit.

>>60561087
They require proof of source for any larger investment now, and this will go down to zero sooner or later.
The moment you try to use crypto, its happy tax hour. You'd need to virtualize your soul.

>>60560988 (OP)
its about providing poor people (browns) access to capital markets so their wealth can go (to address wealth inequality)

>>60561016
Correct

>>60561121
its not even about taxes, even if you did it all legit and hodled if for the required year
banks will still decline you if you have anything higher than pocketchange coming from any exchange account back into tradfi
well thats their loss, guess i'll be taking my monies to a better jurisdiction

>>60561289
Only option, but that jurisdiction will be Iran well no North Korea ah no wrong again Cuba?

>>60561360
i was thinking malta for the first stop and i'll see after that
certainly not dubai, that not a real place its an irl meme and the horrible air pollution

>>60560988 (OP)
Just wait until you find out the will review their proof of concept for euro CBDC in oktober. Europoors are about to be BTFO back to the stone age with this one.

>>60561289
idem

>>60560990
This

>>60561779
What can I even do against this?
I'm from a poor country (Hungary) and I don't make too much to begin with, but have about 6 months wages in my bank account at all times for emergencies.

>>60560988 (OP)
Lmao, europe will never in its current timeline every amount to anything significant. Im surprised that we take what they say seriously instead of just taunting them now.

When their union collapses thats when america can start colonizing their worthless land and actually make use of it.

>>60561102
You were so close until you mentioned crypto

>>60560988 (OP)
They are trying to forcibly seize the private savings of individuals through Digital Euro tokenization to deploy toward the war effort and EU strategic interests. They are calling them "retail" to give the presuppositional consideration that the moneyed having people are investors because the EU cucks are desperate and the coffers are running dry with Trump in and no USAID etc. and they don't want to liquidate their actual assets. It is sickening.

>>60561057
You should check out Tom Luongo and Caitlin Long's work on this. You would be shocked how "good" this is (it is BAD).

>>60562215
If you believe that ECDSA is broken or backdoored then yeah crypto ain't safe either. Otherwise crypto is actually more secure than precious metals in that it is maximally sovereign, even to your grave you can deny the state your funds by merely memorizing your seed phrase and destroying your computers.

>>60561087
Grabbing gold is easy.
They did it in the US multiple times despite muh guns. (The trick is they catch you at the exchange or customs because you need to eventually cash out to exist in fiat world)
They can do the same with btc plus the fact the blockchain ledger is literally right there for them to read, lmao.

>>60562266
>Grabbing gold is easy.
It's a spectrum, to steal physical cash or gold, they need to confiscate it from you by force or coercion. To steal paper assets like bank monies, they merely need to call up the bank and tell them to freeze the account. In the case of crypto, as I mentioned at >>60562252, you can construct a scenario where it is impossible to confiscate your funds from you without your consent, something that is simply impossible with any other asset class.

>>60562300
You still don’t understand the ballgame here.
It’s not about them blocking your access to crypto, it’s about blocking your access to fiat.
They can control the access points to fiat, and so long as you need fiat for the goods you want you’re cooked.
That’s why gold and btc are priced in dollars, you need to cash-out to consoom.
They block your cash-out, all you have is a paperweight.

btc was unironically more threatening to fiat when you could still buy pizzas with it, because that was at least a consumption option, as humble as it was.

>>60562337
You are partially correct here, the assets themselves still hold value even if they aren't being used as money, since you can flee the jurisdiction with them into a more favorable jurisdiction or cash them out through more illegal methods. But yes a non-state backed money would be an existential threat to any state, since control of the money is one of their strongest powers, and when people were actually trying to use BTC as a currency the government had a far more hostile attitude towards it. Luckily for them, that movement just happened to die rather dramatically with the blocksize wars and the only real attempt to turn it into a currency today is with stablecoins that, rather than combat the state's (in particular the United States) monetary dominance, actually strengthens it.

>>60561108
The government forcing people to save for retirement is based because the alternative is sociap security, which forces fiscally responsible people to pay for the irresponsibles' retirement
>Just have neither
No government can survive that because it results in the bottom 80% subhumans rioting when they spend all their money for 40 years and end up with no retirement plan.

>>60562463
The UK is broke for a reason even though they were the literal biggest colonial power for centuries. All it does it allow pedophile elites to funnel money around

All it takes is a few decades.

>>60560988 (OP)
retail savings = your money
EU priorities = war
savings standard = mutualization of people's money

>>60562478
This

>>60562448
>BTC trading for ATH on open market
>REEEEEE bitcoin is worthless REEEEEE
faggot

>>60560988 (OP)
They're going to force all their citizens to use PEPP, aren't they? It will no longer be voluntary, will it?

>>60562266
wrong the black economy is already rising fast in europe as a whole, if i trade services against other service with my fellow villagers the government cant tax shit
this used to be a bit of a problem to correctly value one service against the other, but with corns there exists a ledger to keep track of this in which no government can meddle as its p2p
you are just stuck in a fiat urban mindset, but thats already defeated in the here and now let alone in the future if things get worse
just dont be a söii boi in the city

>>60562523
not a problem, nobody today can even afford retirement plans so there is no money to steal there accept a very tin slice of gen x'rs

>>60562719
>not a problem, nobody today can even afford retirement plans
Of course I was being facetious, but was I? What if the EU dipped in to their social security, insurance reserves dry and had no choice but to enforce a privately-run retirement plan on its citizens because the government doesn't know shit about budgeting money and getting so little in return. The only one who benefits from this scam are big pharma and health insurance companies who literally own much of the EU anyway. That's when I realized Trump isn't one of them when he threw big pharma under the bus and said, "you guys need to pick your shit fairly across borders". Never once have a seen a president have the balls to call out big pharma in public like that

>>60562976
*price your shit

>>60560988 (OP)
Bail ins will be used to buy euro trash bonds

>>60562215
fiatcel tears lol
it boils you from inside that you lost, eh jew

>>60562149
Owning bitcoin is a good start. The biggest problem is you need fiat to pay for your taxes and groceries so you cannot totally fix the problem.

>>60563486
I'm going to be 100% real with you.
I was NEET, but could have bought bitcoin when it was close to nothing, and then all the way up to the 200€ where it stagnated for a while if I recall.
Since I was bedrotting at a time I didn't act on it.
Now I'm way too sour grapes to ever buy into it. That's the only cope I have.

>>60561779
I hate socialism so much bros

>>60563486
It's money printing that causes inflation, not cutting corporate taxes.
Corporate taxes should be zero

>>60563576
Retard

>>60563585
Okay so explain how printing trillions of dollars and spending it doesn't increase inflation.
I'll wait.

>>60561779
this means they'll talk to banks so they invest more in europe instead of the US, you can directly invest your savings without putting them in a savings account if you fear the bank will go bust because of it, the rest of it are retarded conspiracies spread by the gypsy robber that rules hungary so the dumb peasants worry about the EU while he takes all their money>>60562149

>>60560988 (OP)
Nice, i can invest in integration schemes for faggots, migrants and mentally ill people

>>60561016
you forgot faggots an mentally ill people

>>60562463
if they riot long enough they either get lead or starve to death, fuck them

>>60563606
>retarded conspiracies spread by the gypsy robber that rules hungary so the dumb peasants worry about the EU
Bro... We will get digital citizenship apps forced on us by the very same gypsy in December.
EUs Digital currency is beta testing in October.
I don't think my worries are completely unfounded and I worry about the current politicians at home just as much.
They just took out a shitload of money loaned by the US at a fucked interest rate.
So even if the EU doesn't take my money the inflation will spiral. I can already see the writing on the wall.

>this means they'll talk to banks so they invest more in europe instead of the US
I mean sure. I never expected the EU to just freeze the money in peoples banks. It makes a lot more sense the way you describe it as banks already invest money that is held by them. The numbers in my account are just that, numbers.
Still I'm not liking the way things are going and feel like my money would be safer in anything but my currency.

What the fuck is the point of investing if their taxes are so high, makes it pointless

>>60562478
>EU priorities = war
Kek. EU had fuck all military spending in the last decades not even hitting 2% Nato goal.

>>60561779
At least we aren't going to be forced to use the cbdc like Russians.

>>60563629
If you don't trust the euro you can go all in on american bonds, but the orange bastard has been saying some spooky stuff about double taxing the foreign bond holders and he keeps attacking the fed while making shit financial decisions so they may be venezuela tier in a few years
I know the EU sucks in many ways, but for the first time I'm glad I'm european, damn I was thinking about moving to the US half a year ago and now I think of them as a 3rd world country, stability is precious
>EUs Digital currency
don't know much about it but most people no longer use paper money at all, numbers in a screen A or B can't be that different

>>60563670
taxes in europe are lower than in the US

>>60563731
Korea spends around 2.5% and japan less than 2% and they are next to china and north korea, 1.5% is more than enough to fuck russia up if well spent and coordinated, the 5% thing is a meme to make blampf shut up and support ukraine, everybody will quietly back down in 4 years

>>60563760
I genuinely don't care about the tracking, I'm more worried about the controlled spending and some people claim parts of it could have a set "expiry date".
So forced spending to stimulate economies I guess.
That is what I worry about the most.
I'm saving a lot (relative to my wage...) for a better future, but don't want to lose it.

>>60563767
that's very false, not only are capital gains taxes higher but on top of that you have to pay VAT when you spend your money and property and car taxes are the highest in the world so you can't own shit
it's still best to invest than to do nothing but consumption is discouraged, the only way in which you can make real money is to never sell and when you have enough, sell and disappear to south america without filling in your tax returns

>>60563778
the problem is the whole world is fucked, you could buy gold but I don't know how easy to trade it's going to be in the future, you may be stuck holding a rock
>forced spending to stimulate economies I guess
if they want people to spend more they should reduce taxes, VAT is a fucking crime against humanity

Is this what they mean when they refer to social cohesion?

>>60560988 (OP)
oh shit! bail-ins and forced "savings" to be loaned to ecb by law.

>>60560988 (OP)
they're not happy with that high German savings rate but how are they going to do this? they can't just do a naked grab. possible pretext for a centralized digital currency

>>60560988 (OP)
there is an urgent need to channel people's deprecating savings into ponzis to enrich my friends

>>60561779
Please tell me this satire someone typed in the browser dev tools.

>>60560988 (OP)
Sounds like the same olde dystopian globohomo word salad shit they’ve been spewing for years now. The EU is weak and cowardly and they just can’t come to terms with it so instead of course correcting they just keep digging a deeper grave for themselves.

>>60562337
>gotta cash out
Why do you think they're going so hard on stables right now, anon?

>>60560988 (OP)
Read The Great Taking. They've been working on this for decades https://thegreattaking.com/
Or listen to it https://youtu.be/b4-IC2rQ-gE

>>60560988 (OP)
>encounter the eventual inevitability of death
>can't take anything with you when the journey through this life is done
you already own nothing

>>60564597
It's still up. The exact tweet from Ursula von der Leyen was posted on March 10, 2025, on her official X account.

>>60560988 (OP)
There's no way they're going to put peoples savings into stocks that are about to gigadump due to the upcoming global recession right?

>>60565697
I wont care because God said I have eternal life :). Thank you Lord Jesus.

>>60566393
Only after you shed your ego and merge your soul with the other saved to become a new god

>>60561108
It's important to do that when you're dealing with a retarded working class. Proles often need to be protected from themselves.
Also, it builds a nation's savings.

>>60563585
You're a stupid commie

>>60564536
They're fine with savings. What they said is that they want those savings to be put in the stock market.

>>60566398
Lol ok

>>60563629
>I never expected the EU to just freeze the money in peoples banks.
the ECB has already stolen bank deposits to bail-in banks that were insolvent, it was a core response to the cypriot financial crisis in 2012, and bail-ins are now mandatory under EU law as per the Bank Recovery and Resolution Directive which went into effect in 2016.

>>60562149
I genuinely have no idea, anon. Maybe XMR would be good for hiding your money from the banks. Idk though that has risks too. But at least they won't forcibly invest your savings in mortgage backed securities

>>60562463
>>60563623
You guys think you are on a different side of the fence than you actually are.

>>60566478
Social security has been robbed and replaced with worthless bonds at every turn. Not sure why you think they won't just steal all of this and use it to cover the associated losses form some horrible policy.

>>60561071
The EU is still better than any of the alternative.
Only retards in their mom's basement and shills for the competition deny that.

>>60562266
Mostly a myth to fud gold.
Yea, in big cities some people turned in the gold under threat. Other "players" "turned in their gold" publicly. Etc.

Absolutely NO ONE, not a single person, west of an East Coast state (barring possibly in Chicago or other shithole) turned in even a single ounce.

>>60561014
/thread

>>60560988 (OP)
they could just print more money but they prefer to do this? wwwow

>>60563831
You vil be cohesive and you vil be happy