Thread 60570664

When alts finally rally, we're going to look back to right now and be like "damn, I really thought it was over", and wish we had bought more at these prices.

Prices are in the toilet, sentiment is in the toilet, everyone is screaming in agony about their bleeding shitcoins, and you're bearish?

>>60570664 (OP)
>when alts finally rally

>When alts finally ral-
they wont

>>60570664 (OP)
cope

>>60570664 (OP)
>When alts finally rally
Yeah bro I wish I held ARK, NANO, and Digibyte from 2016.
Instead they bled out -98%…

im depressed and just going to buy more because this is my way of hurting myself with a slim hope of salvation, it is like the self-flagellating cults of past, come march with me anons, may the gods notice and take pity on us, i mean, what's a guy got to lose, eh?

>>60570685
You’re gambling instead of investing, you don’t deserve pity. Should’ve held Bitcoin.
*spits*

>when alts rally
Someone come get dey unc

>>60570667
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>>60570683

>>60570685
why not just invest in a stock in a up and coming industry so you actually have a chance of making money...

>>60570697
i missed my chance to invest in an easy 10 business, don't see any others that are not saturated, and just get terribly sad when i think about it. this is emotionally easier. frankly, the future looks incredibly polarized to me, and i won't make it unless i do something incredibly stupid and win. for a lot of people, small exponential gains over time are useless, at their age and income it won't matter or change their lifestyle, it will just make their end of life care better.

>>60570697
I missed my chance to invest in an easy 10x business, I don't see any others that are not saturated already, and just get terribly sad when i think about it. This is emotionally easier. It gives me hope life could actually change. Frankly, the future looks incredibly evonomically polarized to me, and i won't make it into the "haves" unless I do something incredibly stupid and win. For a lot of people, small exponential gains over time are useless, at their age and income it won't matter or change their lifestyle, it will just make their end of life care slightly better.

>>60570664 (OP)
BTC dominance was suppose to drop 2 months ago man. Some alts are still at april levels. That’s VERY BAD.

>>60570664 (OP)
Bitcoin is magical unstealable teleport money.
It's not even 1/10 of the value of gold, and gold costs millions to move around and protect.
It's better than gold and it's 1/10 the value of gold, think about the future.

>>60570664 (OP)
Exactly. This is the time to load up.
I’m loading up on A47 and Blocky while folks cry about red bags. AI gems won’t stay this cheap.

>>60570864
>It's better than gold and it's 1/10 the value of gold, think about the future.
The long term trajectory of BTC is 0 XAU, gold will outperform it long term because BTC will trend towards 0.

>>60570664 (OP)
Buying eth for less than 3k feels criminal. I doubt a lot of older alts like these will ever make it big again but they will certainly mega pump. My real hopes and dreams lie on CMD making it big, or HYPE. Newgen shit like that has potential, damnit.

>>60570667
>25
>Still don't know how to drive
>Still living with parents (I support the household economically though not a total leech)
>Haven't drawn a single piece of art in like half a year or so despite me loving the process of drawing
>Dropped my 3D modelling interests
I'm going to the gym nowadays but I feel so fucking lethargic and shitty still. It's been like 5 months of gym and I just feel like it's a big 2 hour long chore every day five days a week. I kinda hate myself bros feels like nothing is 'good', nothing 'clicks' with me. Is this some sort of mental illness?

>>60570955
Not bad

>>60570664 (OP)
Well they have 3 months left of the bull run to do it in so they better hurry!

I just farted and some blood came out

>>60570683
you cant hold shitty coins and expect to make anything good from it.
memes can make you a lot of good money but you gotta know how to find your way around it

>>60570955
5 months of gym is really good. Nice work man. Surely you’ve seen results at this point? Doesn’t it feel good to be stronger and have better energy? Keep going man. Yeah it is a chore. I get that. But it’s a chore that instantly makes you feel better. At the end of the day life is mostly about doing shit you don’t want to fucking do. That’s what life is. One vile fucking task after the other. That’s the one thing Andrew Tate is 100% correct on. Discipline and the ability to force yourself to do painful, boring, difficult shit that you don’t want to do is absolutely critical, absolutely necessary for success. And if you don’t have it, you stand no chance.

The good news is that discipline can be cultivated and strengthened. You just have to fucking suck it up and do it. Over time your discipline gets stronger.

>>60571825
you need to get some help bro

>>60571847
made some big gains from A47, Fartcoin, and Bonk already this year.
Memes are cooking better than alts

>>60570664 (OP)
Letting alts run means letting Link pump BIG considering all the recent developments.
And we simply cannot have that.

Therefore, alts stay down.

>>60570955
ETH ain’t gonna die, it’s still the backbone. Gas fees tell the whole story, people are using it no matter what. Long-term play if you’ve got patience.
>>60570869
>I’m loading up on A47
it’s one of the few AI tokens that does things, posting consistence meme news on X.

>>60570955
>feels like nothing is 'good', nothing 'clicks' with me
Clinically speaking you would call this anhedonic atypical depression. Realistically speaking it's just the modern condition. Everyone grows up sucking the tit of supraphysiologic levels of dopamine now via digital stimulation. Your brain developed with permanently downregulated receptor density to compensate for the flood of easy rewards that video games and endless content feeds fed you. That downregulated state is now your baseline and there's no good solution because your brain is done growing. You can certainly do dopamine fasts and etc and they'll help somewhat but the reality is your reward and motivational circuitry are permafucked because you grew up in an environment of endless, effortless (and meaningless) reward signals.

I'm 39, I lived ate and breathed video games from 6-18 back when it was still pretty uncommon for kids to do that. The condition you describe is exactly what I have to deal with in adulthood now. Back in my 20s I thought I was just uniquely genetically fucked or whatever because everyone else seemed to just get it and be able to 'click' with things. Nowadays I see adults everywhere grappling with this same shit and I'm like welcome to the party. The only ones who seem normal still are the 16 year old zoomers who are still riding that easy high of exogenous dopamine and havent hit the end of the free ride in their 20s yet. When AI becomes sentient and takes over the planet there won't even be any resistance anymore, we'll all be like those old worn-out flies you find sometimes that are too tired unfocused to dodge the swatter.

If there was a fear and greed index just for altcoins it would be at -100 right now

>>60570667
That pic is so me it's crazy.

>>60570664 (OP)
Maturing is realizing alts are a midwit trap and no matter how much you yearn and squeeze your buttcheeks in hopes of some greater fool pumping your bags, its not gonna happen. Sure maybe one or two alts will go up, but i can assure you it wont be your alt.

>>60570713
>I missed my chance to invest in an easy 10x business
>easy 10x
Never going to make it until you stop thinking like this.

>>60570955
You subconsciously know that you will never make a real income doing art, especially with the rise of AI. Its time to get a real career going and make that your hobby.

>>60572477
At SOME point fundamentals will start to play a role in the speculative investing in crypto. I think it's not "midwit" to purchase things which have shown serious/critical adoption such as ETH, LINK, and even SOL now, but it needs to be viewed as play where there's a large unknown in when it will pay off. I do think we're getting pretty close to that moment at this point, maybe within a year or so even. BTC is always going to be a safe play but will not have the same returns as the alts that will perform when institutional money floods in. 99.9% of alts do nothing and are going to zero, though, for sure. If you're holding alts that after 8 years still do nothing from an infrastructure and adoption perspective then you're just asking to be poor.

>>60570885
Dull.

Economic units have demand not because of belief, but because their supply properties allow demand to alter price primarily instead of supply, enabling economically useful functionality such as Store of Value and other economic abstractions. This is why grain et al, despite having great “intrinsic value” and near-universal acceptance performs poorly as an economic unit, grain has huge elastic supply so increasing demand results in increased supply, instead of increased price, preventing the encoding of economic state information into the price of grain and therefore preventing the use of grain et al as an economic unit.

Gold has been used as an economic unit since antiquity because its low elastic supply render it a fine natural approximation of a unit, but it still possesses elastic supply, bitcoin surpasses gold primarily by possessing perfect inelastic supply, while network effects keep BTC ahead of newer imitations as they fail to improve on the systemically important properties of bitcoin.

>>60572477
right now most real alts are severely undervalued

>>60572542
there are no fundamentals

>>60570664 (OP)

Either this is going to happen, or the total opposite will happen and people finally give up on alts for good. I guess nobody knows yet.

>>60572542
>fundamentals for alt coins
You really dont get it do you

>>60572633
Billions of notional volume every day, millions in fees every day, a diverse set of services from liquid staking to lending to yield trading to futures trading, all of this DOES NOT MATTER! Alts simply have no value for the simple fact they actually do something of real value! This is why you should invest in BTC instead, because it is a store of value which by design will never amount to anything of real value, because only the most worthless commodity can attain value!

>>60572295
I see people say it's going to replace journalists. Kek, I don't see that happening, but it should grow into being a big project

>>60572633
>>60572649
you guys are fundamentally retarded, or zoomies with no practical business experience. I can't help you in either case.

>>60570664 (OP)
Look back at the charts from the last 2 runs
USD price action slumps a bunch, but alts get fucking massacred in btc ratio (sometimes to their atl) right before going straight vertical. We're almost there, anon

>>60570885
Good thing we're infinite beings in the material realm lmao
I bet you probably thought that sounded more profound in your head
In our lifetimes its going to be what investing in the internet was back in the 90s. Its going to crash in a year or so, and the media will make a huge deal of it (like they do with every plebeian humiliation) but then it'll come back and the same media will say it was always the 'smart play'

>>60572563
To be fair, CEXs are already using fractional reserve paper btc, which will ultimately fuel the same manipulation as PMs (unless DEXs reach a steady adoption that forces a modicum of honesty)

>>60571853
Good post brother

>>60573739
>I bet you probably thought that sounded more profound in your head
It wasn't supposed to be profound, it's just a prediction...

>>60573789
You're right, that was a bit sardonic
The long term value for literally everything is 0 in all denominations; I just don't find it a compelling argument

>>60573653
AI agents like that are the next big deals

>>60573832
>The long term value for literally everything is 0 in all denominations
This is incorrect, the long term value in terms of something that depreciates faster than it is infinity, as that is the limit of (1+r)^x/(1+R)^x as x goes to infinity, and r>R. As time goes on, everything measured in dollars will go to either infinity or 0, my estimate is that gold will go to infinity (or rather gold will outlive the dollar) and that bitcoin will go to zero (or rather bitcoin will die before the dollar).

>>60572377
I’m 38 and your life story matches up with mine pretty well, except I hyper focused my dopamine addiction after video games.
>Play non-stop video games from 6 - 21.
>One day just stop playing them as I no longer get enjoyment out of them
>Dopamine deprived
>Turn into complete sexual degenerate
>Sleep with countless women
>Fap constantly
And now I basically never really feel much of anything. Porno doesn’t do it for me. I get zero enjoyment from video games or movies anymore. Smoking weed does nothing. Sometimes I’ll binge on like 3000kcal of sugar to get some kind of rush. It fades quickly. Interesting to see how you’ve described it, medically that is. It sounds about right.

>>60573716
Can you post a few examples of charts for alts showing this?

>>60573653
>it's going to replace journalists
Relax man. i get the hype and all but AI can't possibly replace all jobs. especially journalism. A47 is doing a good job by sharing uncensored news but we gotta know where the line stops

>>60573919
A lot of people are still neglecting the potential that AI agents hold, but adoption will grow

>>60573958
Sure anon
Excuse the obvious phoneposting

>>60573951
lol fuck im 25 and this has been my life the past year, weed, porn, binge eat, repeat. Im a daywalker because I hold a job and work out a lot so I look normal and they think Im normal enough to keep me around there for now but I can not keep going like this and IDK how to stop

>>60573958
As you can see, btc ratio is the indicator for alt szn

>>60573958
Be patient and don't try to time the bottom
The drive up is fueled by rekt bears and sideliner fomo. They're trading emotionally (like most traders) and this will make them much more likely to lose

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>>60575046
>only posting 2017-2018 charts

>>60575058
>can't read the dates
He asked for examples of what I've observed. This is the patterned play I've seen time and again and its the basis for my trade. If you want to be a contrarian faggot, that's your bizness

>>60572141
> A47, Fartcoin
there seems to be a lot of hype surrounding these two.

>>60572141
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>>60574933
3rd world indian men or bots shilling their rug pull, Cannot make it more obvious.

>>60573951
Yup I've got the binge eat problem as well. The threshold for mental stimulation is so high I need a combo booze/candy/fast food session just to breach it and feel anything at all for a bit. I hopped on tirzepatide to curb the urge and found it kinda works but just makes my depression that much worse because the point of the eating was to fill the gaping fucking hole in my brain and the glp1 makes the food not give the reward anymore. Then the extra depression catches up with me eventually and I end up eating that much more to fill the void. Meanwhile other fatties talk about how glp1s cured their depression because the depression was downstream of their fatness which was downstream of their hunger which was purely a physical feeling that sema/tirz neatly turned off. So I'm so fucked in the head that even the miracle weight loss cure of the century doesn't work on me.