I'd like advice on the feasibility of paying someone thousands of dollars in prepaid gift cards.

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How do I find women who are very poor and or very desperate who are somewhat willing to film themselves doing porn for the first time only because they will become homelessif they don't?
It seems much hotter if they're genuinely reluctant and embarrassed

Ideally I'd like to pay her at least a couple thousand dollars for a few dozens hours of her doing some Livestreams for me
So far my best idea is this

>go on subreddit like r/povertyfinance and look for a post by a woman who can't afford rent
>If a recent post like this does not exist, regularly check that subreddit and others like it until you see a post similar to that
>Message the woman who made that post on Reddit. Use a throwaway account and VPN
>Figure out if she's ever sold porn or done any kind of sex work before
>If she hasn't and hates the idea but seems somewhat interested anyway due to her desperation then bingo
>Offer to pay her two hundred dollars an hour to Livestream herself doing whatever you want
>Don't show your face or voice
>Mail her cash
>If she doesn't feel comfortable giving you her address send it to her friends house or have her get a po box
>Don't pay her much upfront so she doesn't take the money and run off without paying you

But I'm still not 100% this will realistically work. Do landlords even allow customers or tenants to just pay them potentially tens of thousands of dollars in cash? It seems like most women especially most twenty something reasonably good looking not overweight etc etc women who haven't done porn or sex work before and are desperate enough to do it for the first time would be doing it because shes very behind on the types of bills that may be difficult to pay with cash It's not like she could just go to her bank and deposit 15 thousand dollars cash I just mailed her for making content for me so she can pay regular bills

post foreskin

I'm assuming all of this can be realistically done anonymously (for me, not her although I wouldn't share anything she sent me with anyone else) and legally?
If anyone has any tips on how to do this successfully please share them

>>60601940
>places like povertyfinance and /r/frugal are a great option, you can also try local buy nothing/freecycle/beer economy facebook groups, they have a higher rate of scammers but you can see what they look like and they wouldn't be posting unless they were a real person and local.

>pick people who seem to be close to a crisis point (struggling for basic necessities, credit card payment/rent/electricity bills due, etc), check their post/comment history, and get a vibe for what they're like. odds are your your only option is a cold approach so dive straight in, make sure to be reasonable and seem sympathetic. You'll get a bunch of accounts banned, set up new ones and move on. Prove you're legit early on, send them $20 or something in exchange for a titpic. you can buy prepaid credit cards with cash at any department store, you can semi-anonymously buy gift cards online that target their specific issue (amazon gift card, uber eats if they're literally starving, whatever). anybody not truly desperate will take the $20 and run, some will stick around because you're dangling $200 in front of them for an hours work and they really need it. it's also not illegal to pay for nudes in most of the world so don't break your back with the secret squirrel stuff unless you're hiding it from your wife or into some fucked up shit.

>Single mothers or people caring for family and thirdies have a high success rate: They have limited ways to get money and are putting the needs of somebody else above their own, so they're not doing it for themselves, its so their mom can eat or their kid can get the shoes he needs.
>Be empathetic for their situation, but make sure they understand its transactional and not a gift. Anything beyond sending a pizza to their door as a sign of good faith needs to be in exchange for something from them. If they don't want to bite, say 'thats cool, if you change your mind let me know' and let them stew. they'll have a new bill come in next week.

>>60601943
Thanks
Do you mean send them the prepaid card code front and back? So they can shop online with it? What about my cash idea?

I'm guessing you've done this before? How many thin white women with pretty faces under 30 have you gotten to do basically whatever you want for you?

Any recommendations for how to get them to anonymously Livestream for me?

I know it's legal but I don't want to get #metoo'd

Also since I'm only interested in buying from girls willing to show face how do I ease her worries about me sharing the stuff she sends me with others or blackmailing her?
Especially if I'm mailing cash and outfits to her house so I have her address?
How do I help her believe I won't share anything she sends me with anyone else and that I won't blackmail her by threatening to share her nudes if she doesn't send me more for free.

I have no interest in doing either but how do I get her to trust me

>>60601946
>Do you mean send them the prepaid card code front and back
yep, buy them for whatever balance you want, if you're going to do this a lot you can buy them in batches. if whoever at the store asks about it you say you're doing some employee bonus thing at the office.
>So they can shop online with it
yes. can use it anywhere you can use a credit card, so they can probably use it to buy groceries at the local store or make a payment on a bill or whatever they deem highest priority.
>What about my cash idea?
never tried it, but I think it'd make them more reluctant up front due to home address, it (mostly) limits you to people in your country, and it adds a multi-day delay. you don't want delays, you want to strike in the moment of their desperation when they need it right now, not say 'I can get you $20 next week'.
>I'm guessing you've done this before?
I've never set out with that goal but I occasionally do it opportunistically. You use the levers you have, and occasionally its cash. When I was maybe 23 my gf's best friend was struggling to pay her bills and I offered to help her out, and I enjoyed it more than I expected so continued doing it.
>How many thin white women with pretty faces under 30 have you gotten to do basically whatever you want for you?
a few with money, mostly without. It's not my first port of call but it can work well.
>Any recommendations for how to get them to anonymously Livestream for me?
use it as a suggestion if they are reluctant to do photos/videos. Somebody who is scared of the photos floating around forever will usually feel better about a livestream. Focus on the ephemeral nature of it, doing it in the moment means they don't second guess what they're doing as much. make sure you use services that feel anonymous to them, a burner discord account on vpn is fine.

>>60601950
Prepaid cards still seem too small to me I don't like it
My ideal scenario is a very attractive women who's never sent a nude before at least not to a stranger and is extremely reluctant to send one to me but she desperately needs at least 15 thousand dollars within a week or two so she agrees
It seems to me like the kinds of women willing to be nude with face for a measly couple hundred dollars aren't very reluctant

Also if she won't give address I guess I can just give her some Amazon gift cards so she can order the outfits I pick out for her herself to her address. I'd only send her like 100 dollars at a time and I'd ask for receipt screenshots of the orders and pictures of her holding the items before in between gift card codes.

Also how many girls are stupid enough not to realize I'm screening recording the Livestream?

>>60601953
>I'm only interested in buying from girls willing to show face how do I ease her worries about me sharing the stuff she sends me with others or blackmailing her?
never bring that up yourself, if she mentions it tell her you have as much to lose as she does and listen to her specific concerns so you can try to address them. Tell her you want to see her sucking on things and face is kind of implied. If she says she wont under any circumstance, you say 'thats okay I understand, but it's a big part of why I enjoy it so without sucking on x I'd probably pay like $50'.
it improves over time, after a few sessions she'll usually loosen up a bit as nothing goes wrong and the money comes in. In a livestream she'll likely accidentally flash her face a few times adjusting angles or moving around, so you can say 'lol relax I saw your face last time, chill out'

>Especially if I'm mailing cash and outfits to her house so I have her address?
I recommend avoiding this at first. Doing something anonymously online for quick cash is one thing, and it's a big step to knowing where they live. If you want to mail them something use an amazon wishlist, and build up to an address after there's trust.

>How do I help her believe I won't share anything she sends me with anyone else and that I won't blackmail her by threatening to share her nudes if she doesn't send me more for free.
as above: focus on you also having something to lose, that they are doing it anonymously, and keep up your end of the deal. Trust is low at first, but after a month of you being reasonable, her getting cash, and nothing bad happening she'll loosen up. Unless they're very desperate, you build one step at a time. After a while you both understand that you could have fucked her life up any time if you wanted, but you don't want to.

>>60601955
How would she believe I have something to lose if I'm totally anonymous? Lie and say I'm not anonymous? If she later figures out I'm obviously anonymous then she'll trust me even less

>>60601934 (OP)
>Do landlords even allow customers or tenants to just pay them potentially tens of thousands of dollars in cash

Most poor people do not have rent that is tens of thousands a month. But anyways yes it's my general understanding that cash is more or less acceptable for rent and it'll way more common with poorer tenants.

>How do I find women who are very poor and or very desperate who are somewhat willing to film themselves doing porn for the first time only because they will become homelessif they don't?
It seems much hotter if they're genuinely reluctant and embarrassed

You'd probably want to look for addicts anonymous for whatever.

The other idea is that women are whores so really if you held a modeling shoot and gradually escalated what they were doing and offered a stack of money a fuck load of women probably would happily get fucked five ways to Friday for enough cash. You may have to do multiple sessions, a free one for her portfolio, then a paid one allegedly for some product, then claim something else is for expository art (maybe you get her to pose nude) you promise to send along and then you shoot her nude and pay her to "model" and then you just straight up hand her cash to take a load.

>My ideal scenario is a very attractive women who's never sent a nude before at least not to a stranger and is extremely reluctant to send one to me but she desperately needs at least 15 thousand dollars within a week or two so she agrees
good luck with that one. 15k is going to mostly be people with drug, gambling, or spending issues who have been in this position before and will be again. You have to time it right to be the first person who offers them cash in that moment.
>Prepaid cards still seem too small to me I don't like it
you can get prepaid cards up to $500 pretty easily, what part is too small?
>Also how many girls are stupid enough not to realize I'm screening recording the Livestream?
They mostly know its possible, but it feels different. With sending a pic or videos there's a 100% chance there's a saved copy, with a livestream the chance is lower than that. You can try to set it up on a platform that notifies about screenshots/screen recording if you really want to set their mind at rest.
>I'd ask for receipt screenshots of the orders and pictures of her holding the items before in between gift card codes.
why? that doesn't do anything for anybody but makes you come across as a control freak

>>60601962
What if her landlord doesn't take cash?

I don't want to hand her cash in person obviously I just want her to do tons of livestreams in her bedroom of her doing whatever I want

>>60601958
you say doing this is a secret outlet for you. maybe you're married, or you're in a very christian family, or you work in a job that does social work with disadvantaged people. You're doing it anonymously because if it came out you were doing this, it would ruin your life in some way.

>>60601964
What's unrealistic about that? I gave the example of a woman who has a surprise 15 thousand dollar expense because her cat has cancer or maybe her car engine died

She can't go to the veterinarian or mechanic with 6 different prepaid cards with 500 dollars each especially if she doesn't even have the physical cards.

Could you give some examples of good platforms for the Livestream?

Because if I send her 2000 dollars in Amazon gift card codes so she can buy a laptop, a very nice camera, a bunch of clothes and other stuff I don't want her to take all the 1800 dollars and sell the gift card codes for cash then Ghost me or say all the items were stolen off her front porch

>>60601958
you say doing this is a secret outlet for you. maybe you're married, or you're in a very christian family, or you work in a job that does social work with disadvantaged people. You're doing it anonymously because if it came out you were doing this, it would ruin your life in some way.

>>60601985
Sure but she'd ask why I'm buying from her instead of watching the tons of free porn that exists. Still not a bad idea and it's literally just telling the truth lol

>she'd ask why I'm buying from her instead of watching the tons of free porn that exists
same reason people pay for camwhores in the first place: the one on one experience is different and something people crave.
>I gave the example of a woman who has a surprise 15 thousand dollar expense because her cat has cancer or maybe her car engine died
Somebody barely scraping by is not going to drop 15k on a cat and no vet catering to people that poor would recommend the option. You can literally buy a shitbox that'll run for a few months for a few thousand dollars. For the US, what fits your scenario is probably 'surprise medical expenses' or 'I couldn't afford insurance and crashed into an expensive car'. If those are what you're aiming for, lurk the subs those people will be posting in.
>She can't go to the veterinarian or mechanic with 6 different prepaid cards with 500 dollars each especially if she doesn't even have the physical cards.
you can move money around dude, and any mechanic or vet happily offers payment plans for big expenses. 500 a week they'd be fine with.
>Could you give some examples of good platforms for the Livestream?
everything offers video streaming now so whatever you and her are comfortable with. burner discord accounts are easy, you can go telegram/signal/teleguard if you want more anonymity, something like snap is fine but you'd spend a bunch of time setting it up so it didn't notify her about screen recording.
>I don't want her to take all the 1800 dollars and sell the gift card codes for cash then Ghost me
and what would stop her doing that if you mail her cash, or she resold a laptop you shipped her? don't send big sums until you're comfortable sending big sums.

I'm just saying that because veterinarians generally don't do payment plans and retailers don't allow cards to be typed in which aren't physically present
The fact that you were mistaken about both just made this feel like a bit of a waste of time

>a vet will only accept a credit card if you physically turn up in person with the card
as somebody who dealt with a 5k vet bill I can assure you they offer payment plans and are happy to take credit card numbers over the phone for payment
>retailers don't allow cards to be typed in
not sure where I suggested that but you do you

>So they can shop online with it
yes. can use it anywhere you can use a credit card, so they can probably use it to buy groceries at the local store or make a payment on a bill or whatever they deem highest priority.

Unless you're talking about having them delivered

not sure where you live but in the western world, most grocery chains (e.g walmart) will accept online orders for pickup as well as delivery, which is what I was thinking Small grocery stores likely will not.
>make a payment on a bill or whatever
any utility company will let you make credit card payments online or over the phone, you may run into issues if you somehow have a debt to your local butcher

>>60601997
>>60601992
This is a big part of the advice I need

Can you send someone 12 500 dollar prepaid visa gift card codes?
Can they actually make use of this 6000 dollars spread across 12 different gift cards each with their own number?
Can they pay their veterinarian bill of 5 thousand dollars this way? Can they buy a car or at least pay for their current car to be fixed at a mechanic?
Can they pay rent for a few months to a landlord that doesn't take cash?

Etc etc

>>60602003
For example I think it's basically impossible to pay car insurance unless you have money in the bank

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>>60602390
>>60602425
THIS IS A CHRISTIAN BOARD STOP PUSHING YOUR EXPLOITATIVE SMUT AND DEGENERACY ON GOOD WILLED PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE AN HONEST DOLLAR

>>60602430
It's all gambling and ponzi scams and schemes
An actual rich guy who's not just larping asks a financial question and it gets no answers

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>>60602441
>bitcoin at all time high
money comes to men with knowledge

Why are nipples and camel toes in stock/product photography so hot?

>>60602495
time to buy in

>>60601934 (OP)
Back in the day, on one of the early video-chat services (might have been Omegle), there was a Brazilian chick who loved sucking off her dog on camera.

>>60601934 (OP)
>It's not like she could just go to her bank and deposit 15 thousand dollars cash I just mailed her for making content for me so she can pay regular bills
You're right, they can't, and neither can anyone who uses crypto without washing it and ending up getting raped either on taxes or middle men. So stop trying to think up these jew scams just because you think women owe you sex.
>>60601950
>yes. can use it anywhere you can use a credit card, so they can probably use it to buy groceries at the local store or make a payment on a bill or whatever they deem highest priority.
You can't in western countries, those prepaid cards get rejected basically everywhere, and you can't use them to pay bills.

>>60602938
>neither can anyone who uses crypto
Bullshit, I haven't had any problems. It can be a pain in the ass to get set up, but once it is, no one cares, as long as you pay your taxes and sheeeeit.

>>60602522
Because she signed away rights to that image and then she's like "oops"

>>60603008
How much work and time would it be to teach her how to get paid in and use crypto?

>>60602938
I don't care if there's lots of taxes
If I agree to pay her 7k for all the livestreams and she gets taxed a bunch then I'll just send her 30k or whatever so she takes home 7k

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>>60601934 (OP)
3rd world countries bro
here is a video of some dude fucking a mother and daughter at the same time oyakodon style for inspiration
https://spankbang.com/8m95t/video/thai+mom+and+daugther+2

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>>60603260
That's fucked up

>>60603431
faggot

Stop bumping your own thread on mobile and stop watching porn.

>>60601934 (OP)
POST YOUR FORESKIN, OP. OP YOU STUPID FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKIDY FUCK

You have AI . Get with the times grandpa
GET WITH THE TIMES GRANDPA. WE HAVE AI NOW. Nobody cares about real actors anymore.

OP JUST ADMIT YOU WANT TO HUMILIATE POORFAGS AND FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOURSELF WITH YOUR TINY E-PEEN AS YOU PAY THEM AND PAY THEM EXTRA TO MOAN OVER YOUR TINY PENIS.

WHY ELSE WOULD YOU NOT USE AI INSTEAD WHEN AI IS INFINITELY CHEAPER AND DOESN'T BITCH BACK?

>>60603452
take your meds faggot im not op
also kill yourself

>>60603460
There's like 10 IDs just posting bump, I said stop bumping your own thread without replying to a single one of them, yet a new ID that isn't posting bump made this post. You got caught with your pants down just give up.

>>60603471
you are literally mentally ill you faggot wake up ur head canon is just that mental illness and you need to be put down like the dog you are

>>60603458
I want to humiliate poorfags to feel better about myself

>>60603484
Keep going, the fact that I triggered you this hard is amusing. I promise not to tell anyone I caught you samefagging if you post a picture of your butthole, I might even post a $5 amazon gift card code to compensate you kek

>>60603511
nigger imagine a world where you are wrong and you will begin to understand how stupid you sound

>>60603524
He's not a samefag and it's called 4 chan dot homosexual idiot

>>60603524
Yeah but we both know I'm not, there's absolutely no reason you would've made your first reply to me unless you were OP and got assblasted. My $5 gift card offer is still on the table by the way

>>60603540
>there's absolutely no reason
the reason is i felt like it you stupid gorilla nigger fucking hell you truly are a peak autismo retard

>>60603484
>>60603552
>>60603524
You talk like a moron 12 year old and your shit's all retarded straight out of Idiocracy. Go back to Runescape and get scammed by Venezuelans, jewish boy. You can't speak English worth a shit. Go back to India where you jews belong.

>>60603552
>Joke's on you, I was only pretending to be a retard gorilla nigger

>>60603563
kek runescape never touched the stuff but good to know its where your pathetic little retard mind goes
and the fact you automatically think im jewish is hilarious
>oh no hes not a samefag quick let me call him a jew and and complain about his grammar
nigger are you just trying to be a pathetic little cuckerspaniel ?

>>60603576
So you are jewish
So you are from Runescape
So your mother did fuck a nigger
So you are a cuck
So your mother also fucked a mexican after your father left you.
Go back to India where jews belong.

>>60603693
so you are retarded
good to know
keep fighting the good fight mongo bongo
you really are a special little guy

>>60603057
Does anyone have any answers for this

>>60603706
>>60604049
I'll make you beg me to remove those needles from your balls, 20 year old-o. What needles? Hope you won't have to find out.


>AoStH is fine and is unironically the most accurate Sonic cartoon to date.
*SMACK*
>Ooohhh ohhhoo ;_; sorry millenial-san
Worshipping Tamers12345, are we?
>No
*SMACK*
>Yes. ;_;
Telling lies, son?
>No, Papa
*PUNCH*
>Yes, papa ;_;
You watched the Snoopingas video didn't you?
>Yes, papa ;_;

>Another retarded gen-Zer comes in
>Fuck off, millenoid. I'm a gen-X and I watched AoStH when I was just a kid and it was clearly superior over your SatAM Sallycucks and-
*Shoves needles through his balls*
>AAAH AHA AHA AHAH AHA HA AAAHH AAAH AAAAH AAHHHH AAAH REMOVE IT
Sssh ssshh sshhhhh shhhh... if I remove these needles you'll die.
>Dumb gen-Zer tries to remove them
*Breaks all his fingers*
Don't remove those needles or you'll die.
Now... go to a hospital and tell them you tried to masturbate with a hedgehog...

>>60601934 (OP)
how about you pay a prostitute AND a psychiatrist instead of going throgh this retarded, perverse crap?

well I gained some new skills today. thanks 4chins.

>>60604233
also, how fucking ugly do you have to be to need to do shit like this to fuck women lmao

>>60604233
Not reluctant enough

>>60604260
you could ask her to pretend. that's part of their job anyway.
or maybe try convincing your psychologist/psychiatrist.

>>60604311
they suck at acting plus even if she's a perfect actor it's not as hot if I know she's not genuinely reluctant and humiliated

>>60601975
As long as it's not crazy amounts of cash she can just deposit it. If she's depositing $1000-$5000 in cash no one really cares

>>60604362
I get that but I'd be interested in buying from the types of women who would refuse to do it for 7k but would be willing to do it for 15k or more