Thread 60608426

dimon edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc smg:
https://www.financialjuice.com/home
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates
https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits

Previous: >>60605461

i-its our turn today... right?

>>60608426 (OP)
If you countertraded this piece of shits opinions about crypto, you w be a trillionaire now.

>>60608426 (OP)
First for fuck trump and his racist tariff policy

Buck Moon tonight boys
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U51A_4bVg5A

>sell crypto bags
>its the one time they go higher
and somehow all stocks are freefalling

>>60608435
hahaha, I'm gonna go to Montreal and dunk on the poor frenchies

>>60608450
Don't make me tap my post. >>60608228

Higher prices on everything means higher inflation, which Bitcoin is supposed to hedge against. Stocks generally like inflation, but not disruptflation.

Buy SBSW

CLBR chads how is it going to go after merger next week

>>60608209
no way inflation was 10% for just a few years. my snack doesn't just go up by about 1.5x in price in about 5 years time. i can feel it, the value of the dollar is accelerating downwards. but what stocks do i stick my money in that go up in value harder than the fiat goes down? than again all in on SPY during the 2020 bottom would have you up by at least 2x. but homes in nice places probably all went up by more than 2x in value

found a good one for ya old school bois, if there are any of yous lurking.

LGL, which stands for LGL group, super exciting already. But they got a super smart CEO (son of an OG value investor) and for now they are just sitting on cash waiting for a good undervalued company to buy up. its kinda funny their investments make more money than the main segment (time synchronization electronics, kinda don't care about them but they make steady money so eh), so they have to play a balancing game in order not to be classified as an investment group as their investing income is 4x the electronics.

I'm really not selling them well, they're super boring but if the CEO is as smart as he is on paper (graduated harvard and MIT) then it should be a steady and boring investment. Oh and they mentioned graham and dodd when explaining what companies they want to buy up, that extra sold me. I decided I need a bit more boring but reliable in my portfolio, this satisfies it 100%.

last note, I just remembered when I last shillled a company based off of a super smart management. CTM and SATL both got smarts up and down their c-suite, so I ain't talking outta my ass. if ya don't believe me read their 10k, you should be doin that anyways, especially if you're a fundamental analysis guy like me, but I even surprise myself by being better day by day at the numbers side of things, the quantitative side. But my thinkin is if the qualitative is rock solid, they are gonna get the numbers side sorted out eventually, or at least make sure the shareholders get treated fairly in a bankruptcy. Like the person dictates the company, you focus on good people doing smart things, can't go wrong.

>>60608470
Literally just sold mine for a 15% gain yesterday. I know it's South Africa blood money mining, but aside from that:

>Why?

distribution at the top
the music is about to stop
the bubble will pop
better have a good mop

I'm freaking up what should I buy?
OSCR CERS
XYZ PAYO
SYF CFG APO
YOU
AMKR ON ACMR TER
please haaaaaaaalp

>>60608608
>what should I buy?
SBSW

>>60608608

OSCR please buy my heavy $17 bags!

FUCK YOU JAMIE WE KNOW

>>60608608
TER sounds good
They should be making a lot of money from selling to amazon

Markets sussin

why aren't my orders filling on the pre market I'm really confused this is fucking annoying

There's nothing I want more in this world than for clowns like Tom Lee to lose everything. Please god let there be a five-year long 50% crash in SPY where all crypto goes to zero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOWGm12KyZA

>>60608517
SBSW has a lot of North American operations as well.

>>60608686
There will be but it will begin in the October-January time frame.

>>60608699
Why then?

>>60608699

Lol. After the April recovery everyone was saying that the big one 2 electric boogaloo was coming in Summer, now its postponed till Winter, then it'll be Spring.

By the Winter of 2029 when the S&P is over 9000 and BTC is $500,000 you will still be sitting here just as broke, socially immobile, fat & depressed saying to yourself over and over that any day now it'll all come crashing down and bring everyone down to my level. That's when your real life starts.

Well guess what pal. It isn't happening. 2008 was a once a 100 years thing, akin to 1929. You'll likely never see a financial catastrophe in your lifetime again, only flash crashes and blip dips.

>>60608720
You have no idea what’s coming. And I give zero fucks if you believe me. Best of luck :)

>making being a bull or a bear your entire personality
Shiggy. Diggy, even

>>60608731

Trips and we bull forever and this guy necks it.

>>60608426 (OP)
Anyone watch the Shkreli analysis videos? They're the only resource that gives me a actual clear idea of how serious analysis works in practice. They're so useful imo.

It's over.

>>60608731
you are literally one of these mentally ill retards. at this point why dont you just "end" it

>>60608782

Shkreli is GOAT for free resources but his actual picks have been really poor lately and watching him lose it all on SRPT is quite funny tbqhfam.

>>60608731
the bear mentality ultimately boils down to seething resentment, much like a marxist. success, beauty, gains, all are a glaring reminder of their own dysgenic incompetence and low intelligence. they recoil from risk, a child taking refuge in cash and gold like in his mothers breasts from the scary world. all the while they can show everyone what a big smart boy they are by scolding them and pulling up deleted Michael Burry tweets

>>60608718
I think David Hunter's meltup and blow of top thesis is the scenario now unfolding. ES to 8000, NQ to 28000, YM to 50000, RTYl to 3000, Gold to $4000, Silver to $75, Bitcoin to $140k-$170k.

The market indices may have a small 3%-5% retracement over the next week or so with the tariff news, but market will mostly shake it off and pump to new highs. Tariffs are a nothing burger at this point until it cause recessions to deepen in other countries, which will lead to contagion.

Watch Japan closely this fall.

Why are bulls always so aggressive? They are playing a rigged game to their advantage and yet they are so sensitive.

>>60608720
S&P is going to 8000 over the next few months.

wtf man even dogecoin up almost 10% today

>>60608815
altseason is starting, fickle at the moment. 20% vertical move for ETH incoming, then assrape volatility for 4-6 months for ETH and alts, BTC +5% crab, into cycle end

I wonder which exchanges will be liquidated this time around

The only way to make the value of the dollar recover is tie its value to the bitcoin.
The value of 1 $ = the value of 1 BTC.
The federal government then buys BTC in bulk and creates the modern equivalent of a gold reserve; I don't understand why everytime I pitch this people call me a psychopath.

>>60608831
Because you will be forever wrong.

1 BTC = 1 BTC

>>60608831
or just bring the gold standard back like we had in the pre clown world times

is anyone else watching WISE (WIZEY ADR)? honestly extremely impressed with their app and their numbers plus theyre going to list on US exchange soon. They fill a different niche than PAYO but can probably compete with them in enterprise forex while totally locking down global retail

>>60608831
Bitcoin is a distraction. Yes, some of the crypto skids will make a fortune in crypto over the next few months, but so what?

What's actually going to happen is gold revaluation, but it won't come until after the crash, perhaps in 2026 or 2027. One of Trump's top picks for replacing Jerome Powell, or for replacing Scott Bessent as Treasury Secretary if Bessent takes the Fed position, Judy Shelton, wants 50-year and 100-year gold backed US treasuries.

Trump's mantra is a "Golden Age for America" for a reason.

Gold will go to $10k easy later this decade.

Toughts on MRK ?

>>60608810
Exactly lmao

>>60608849

They're no Revolut or Monzo but a trailing third thing with some promising growth. Hard pass from me but that means it'll probably be £25 a share by the end of the year.

>>60608882
>>60608810
stop identified with an anthropomorphised direction of a line. i know it seems cool like the latest marvel capt america universe or a pokemon gym battle but you are identifying with an animal so you can harangue normal people living in real life

uh oh red day, as always SLUUUUUUUUURP euro def

>>60608897
>Revolut
that is literally a 3rd world remittance app downloaded online on govt issued androids for illegal immigrants, which hopefully gets taxed into the abyss. Wise is legit, for normal people abroad or on vacation, and SMBs or even sizeable enterprises. Their business model is genius and the UI is impeccable. Also a bunch of high IQ Estonian guys started it and are trying to get out of the UK because they actually want to grow. and they have been and will grow. seriously, look at their annual report on their website

>>60608426 (OP)
BASEDmie Dimon

>>60608911

Awful defensive, how emotional and unwise of you. Revolut is so much better is every conceivable way and has way more users and AUA. Seethe and cope.

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO SILVER?!?

>>60608911
this poster must be finnish as he immediately wants to do weaponized taxing against someone he doesn't like

>>60608928
sorry you are a woman and bizarrely read hostility into a normal adult conversation. Revolut is patently a worse product in every conceivable way. It targets literal brown hordes and its in their pricing strucutre. its free up to 1k a month, and then .5-1% after that. Wise is between 0.15-2% flat, meaning they target normal business and non poor, non-illegal immigrants feeding 10 family members in shitistan for 20 dollars. also Wise's product is just better, its way faster, serves double the currencies with all pairs having the same rates unlike Revolut. Revolut is just a first mover and stagnant piece of trash that also supports shitcoins. Wise is going to eat its lunch and its clear if you have eyes. I think N Americans just dont know about it yet, which means its undervalued

>>60608943
yes i want to tax remittances at 100% so economic shitkin leeches stop coming to the 1st world and taking jobs from teenagers. because no one would like my non tax solution

>>60608953

Can you post your holdings so I can inverse them thx.

>>60608961
screenshotted

>>60608899
Are you implying that I should go back to some place?

>>60608961
You are brown.
>>60608897
>£
You are very brown.

>>60608953
Agreed, absolutely no reason they shouldn't be taxed 100%.

>>60608938
HSBC was the main dumper of silver in the COMEX, they were artificially suppressing the price so the Chinese could buy silver concentrate from the West at discount for their solar industry. When Trump announced 50-100% tariffs on Chinese solar in April, HSBC exited the market.

Without the Chinks, there's nothing to keep the price down anymore. Banks and institutions that continued to short silver, because "we need to short silver, it always goes down" have slept walked into an impending squeeze that could begin at any moment. All it takes is for one or two to panic and cover.

I have etf of sp500, US healthcare and EU insurance, what other etf's are a good pickup?

>>60608977
Fuck...

>>60608961
Post short history and I will

>>60608991
Us healthcare is terrible rn and you are already overdiversified

>>60608938
schitzos will be vindicated. Inshallah

Soxl chads? What do we do?

>>60608991
some us/eu defense etfs. the one I have is 50/50 eu+us.

>>60608977
huh its really that rigged?

AHT anon, what was your reasoning on buying it again? Looks like shit today and not familiar with construction but considering a dip buy

>>60608720
>Well guess what pal. It isn't happening. 2008 was a once a 100 years thing, akin to 1929. You'll likely never see a financial catastrophe in your lifetime again, only flash crashes and blip dips.
I agree, other than ww3
the stock market didn't do so well in ww1 or ww2. So there's that
other than that, yes it will be a bunch of blips and temporary corrections.

>>60609033
I'd sell SOXL and nVidia, and go long AMD and ARM here, both shares and some 3-5 month options plays.

>>60609003
A dump to 22582 on NQ is my short term target over next few trading days. Then we go to 28000.

Fuck gonna buy OSCR i guess

>>60609133
What are we thinking here, TACO again or is it for real this time?

>>60609154
>What are we thinking here, TACO again or is it for real this time?
it is 100% taco

>>60609154
What a question

>>60609163
Tariff, taco taco, tariff, taco taco taco

Don't think just because I got a lot of money
I'll give you taco-flavored kisses honey
Fulfill all your gains wishes
With my taco-flavored kisses

Taco taco, tariff tariff, taco taco
Fulfill all your stock market wishes
With my taco-flavored kisses
Taco taco

Taco is the new milhouse

>>60609154
My IP changed. I don't think Trump will necessarily chicken out this time, I think he will stand his ground, to spite all of the people saying TACO.

Rather, I think the market has gotten used to the tariffs, even sees the benefits to them. It's no longer as afraid. Why? What has changed.

Tariff talks back in April caused foreign countries to sell their US treasuries. And they're still selling them now. However there are two things that will act as a sink for US treasuries that are about to happen. Stablecoin GENIUS act gets signed next week and the US Fed is deregulating the amount that banks need to have in reserve, freeing up that liquidity for use in US treasuries. Stablecoin payment rails companies like CRCL or PYPL primarily hold US treasuries and commercial paper, that's what gives the stablecoin value.

Yesterday, a bunch of Fed spokespeople said they're ready for rate cuts in a month or two. They know US treasury yields are going to come down because of this and therefore can lower rates.

>>60609009
I'm long term only. I am not selling to not have to file taxes. I am thinking in terms of next 5 years.
>>60609065
What etf's in particular? What companies in particular as constituents? I don't think defense companies are a very good long terms investment. If you have insider knowledge like some congresswoman you can make a killing but long term it isn't optimal. Maybe I'm wrong idk.

>>60609225
i really hope people wont use paypal. its the scammiest piece of shit in the finance industry

>>60609262
I would wait on us healthcare specifically because of the current deregulation push.
Compliance will cost a lot of time and money and dereg is bad for the megacaps which is most likely what the etf is heavy in

My entry would be around the midterms as a value play

Just buy boss!
#TACO

All my credit spreads are going to blow up. I'm not sure how I am supposed to proceed to lose the least amount of money boss.

>>60609292
Roll the short legs up and further dated

Who the fuck subscribes to SiriusXM? I know they do free trials but why even bother? I have a phone already.
Do normies really pay for spotify and satellite radio?
I use just newpipe lol I truly feel lost investing in this clown world.

I still have 7 more days until my money arrives in my brokerage account.
How many opportunities will I miss in these 7 days?

>>60609305
you aint missing shit, every single day has new ones, the trick is to recognize them

>>60609278
just bought 5k worth of spy.

>>60609301
I'm short the $626P and long the $625P with a 33 cent credit, both are expiring today. I dunno, let me see what happens at the open, I was probably going to roll 2/3rds out, cover 1/3rd of the short legs leaving me some long puts try to actually make some fucking money out of the deal boss.

everything except crypto, oil and metals is freefalling today

Is we be slumpin?

>>60609225
>Stablecoin GENIUS act gets signed next week
Stopped reading here. Talking about crypto as anything other than a silly pyramid scheme automatically outs you as a retard. Nobody gives a fuck about these ponzi coins in the real world.

>>60609321
This
“I think of the time I wasted chasing runs which already begun and my port aches. Life is a slurp, slurping is happiness. Every moment can be an eternity of slurping” - Dostoevsky IIRC

>>60609345
Say what you want, Powell even stated he was looking forward to the act passing the other week during his congressional testimony, because it would mean $4 trillion in US treasury purchases.

>>60609351
I slurp, therefore I am.

>>60609358
Any short term increase in purchases of treasuries will be balanced out by sales when the pyramid scheme collapses. These coins serve no purpose and solve no real problems (inb4 muh efficiency gains) and will collapse when there are no greater fools to be found.

its happening! americans are finally too broke to slurp the dip.

>>60608991
We have similar strategies, however i think you should either kick the s&p and instead go for another sector etf, or go all in the s&p, having such a broad index plus indexes already sharing the same type of risk is kind of useless

>>60609345
Also the stablecoins that are about to hit the market are not the pajeet scams of the past. MA, VISA, CRCL, FI, PYPL, etc. are all leading participants. Stablecoins will be replacing credit cards and will be marketed to vendors and customers the same way.

>>60609376
come back in an hour. lets see about that

>>60609381
fuck off with the poopal shilling. they suck and steal peoples money and have absolutely no reason to still be around in the current year

The Canadians are selling their equities so they can pay the tariffs. Blame those fucking leafs for buying into our markets when they had no business taking part in the American dream boss.

>>60609328
Here's a tip: don't do spy credit spreads. Do spx. If you get assigned on spy you are gonna get fucked.

>>60609381
Nigger, modern financial systems are already digital. Do you think banks move around pallets of cash all day? No, code running on their servers decreases a number representing the money in one account and increases the number of another account by the same amount. Finance was solved some time ago and tranactions are essentially instant and free. The percentage that companies like Visa and Mastercard are able to skim off the top are just because they have no competitors, meaning they can take advantage and jew people. Watch their profit margins shrink the moment some competition appears.

>>60609381
>Stablecoins will be replacing credit cards
nah, normal people don't want immutability

>>60609397
Why would I ever get assigned? There's so much liquidity in these things, who the fuck would do such a thing.

stop following me

>>60609450
I'm sorry anon, but gangstalker was the best job I could land with my lacking qualifications. I'm just doing this for a meager paycheck and it would help me out if you would refrain from making eye contact when you are masturbating

line better go up

ohnono its so over for the americans!

>>60609517
Look the 4th of July is over, we got a whole fucking year before we have to worry about burger prices boss.

>>60609516
somehow dax is recovering and us is crabbing

Buy TSLA today, it's going up 5%

>markets at new highs
>time for Trump to go full retard again

I should follow my own advice and buy downside protection once they realize he's just repeating April again

>>60609543
why

Platinum, palladium and rhodium showing no signs of slowing down. Won't be long before all are back higher than the gold price. Imagine not having any PGM miner exposure rn.

>>60609569
betting on miners instead of relevant materials futures sounds silly

>>60609523
Also people can now put burgers on layway.

>>60609549
Not gonna work a second time this shortly after the first tariff drama. I know "smart money" is stupid as fuck, but even Wallstreet isn't THAT stupid. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, you won't fool me again.

>>60609578
What if Trump isn't actually going to back down this time? What if the first time he backed down he did it as a sign of good faith, so that countries could come to the negotiating table, but what if that was like the final warning, and now all the tariffs are actually here to stay boss?

Cooper (bought 1 day before trump tariffs lol)
URA&UUUU leaps
XLI
XLE
SPY
QQQ
GE,AMD,PLTR,SOFI,TSLA
I have no idea what i'm doing but im up 33% since Jan, Also I own 100k worth of stocks but only have 40k in my account, my broker lets buy alot more for some reason. Am I going to make it bros?

>>60609600
Or what if Trump is just a maniac psychopath who does this so he can benefit? Ever thought of that?

>>60609578
>>60609600

Like if the head cuck of The Peoples Republic of Canada takes his letter and wipes his ass with it instead of giving his attention to the matter like Trump had asked, they could end up getting bombed, like when Iran didn't come to the table after Trump had asked for their attention boss.

>>60609600
>What if the first time he backed down he did it as a sign of good faith, so that countries could come to the negotiating table

the whole thing is a fucking bluff because Trump doesn't even have the legal authority to impose tariffs using the methods he's been trying to. this stuff is getting challenged in court immediately

I know this is probably wrong place to ask (cause you guys are just gamblers), but what is going on with solar bullshit stocks? Why are they being pumped, while the companies they're governed by are living dead? I don't understand it. I made quick buck on Sunrun, but I'm afraid to go in at the price it's currently at and just before the finances report

>>60609600
>What if Trump isn't actually going to back down this time?
Of course he isn't retard, he won. Tariffs are good, we are entering the golden bull run

>>60609608
Have you ever considered he's doing this so we can all benefit boss?

Morning and Happy Fryday frens
>BITX

>>60609600
Then he'll ruin the global economy and republicans will be completely destroyed in next year's midterms. Trump cares a lot about his legacy and he wants people to remember him as a great president. Barring an actual world war or some unforseen act of god, the stock market 3 years from now will be a lot higher than where it is at right now.

>>60609626
laws don't apply to him

>>60609603
>Also I own 100k worth of stocks but only have 40k in my account, my broker lets buy alot more for some reason.
>I have no idea what i'm doing

As of today I am no longer 40% in cash
I am now 35% in cash

I intend to be 0% in cash by the end of the year

It will dump for sure when I am done buying.

BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG

CAM ON AND MAKE SOME FOOKIN' GAINS

>>60609652
Based

>>60609649
keep some cash for the next "scare"
we are far from heaven on earth

>>60609639
They do, but random democrat lawfare doesn't anymore. Thank fuck that the supreme court ruled on that, it was getting a bit silly how random district judges would try to sabotage policy decisions regarding matters of national security and foreign policy.

Have I gone and bought the bottom on UNH AGAIN

next week on /smg/

>>60609683
Now that’s more like it, shit has been real quiet recently

hmm. no one is buying, theres not even any volatility like normally on open

Is thinkorswim completely and utterly shitting the bed for anyone else?

i bought sbsw calls
sorry if i kill your stock

Bulls are out of money

>>60609652
Basado

I thought I was going to lose money, but I made money boss.

>>60609702
nope. whats the problem

>>60609555
Because Jared is pumping the price

>>60609683
>earnings season starts
>first one is a company called "Fast"
>second one is a company called "First"

>>60609702
Same here. That's ok I guess I didn't really want to sell any CCs this morning anyhow....

>>60609702
Yes

>>60609694
Because everything is at or near ATH. I've had Google on my potential buy list for weeks and Bobo can't even manage to get that beaten down dog to my entry price target. Do better Bobo. Do better.

>>60609716
It basically wasn't responding to user input. Closed and restarted and it won't even let me log in now. Mobile app and web version also dead.

>>60609762
Is this it? Is it black friday again already?

wtf why is everything except tesler drilling

You call this a plunge? Bunch of pussies.

>>60609774
Seems to be back to normal but clearly schwab is run by a bunch of streetshitters and I'm pretty fucking irritated they made me miss out on the V of the day

>>60609800
Yeah. I moved from them to IB about 8 years ago and haven't looked back.

Look at the NVDA pump. Wasn't Jensen yesterday or today in the White House? Is Trump going to hand out GPU to China?

Do you think old P/E ratios are simply a thing of the past and this is the "new normal"?

If yes, then how high can it go before people reconsider putting money into the stock market?
If not, then do you realize how far we'd have to crash to get back to normal? 2008 would not be enough

>>60609777
nature is healing

>>60608426 (OP)
Why does it keep falling?

>be wrong
>make money anyway
This shits so easy boss.

>>60609833
Realistically, I think you'll have a hard time finding people willing to wait for the bottom of a 20 - 30 year P/E ratio cycle before they start buying stocks

what a terrible trading day but at least i got out of red

>market pumps
>AMZN dumps
>market dumps
>MAZN pumps
contrarian ass business

also wtf silver is still climbing

>>60608554
what is the next meme stock?

>>60609875
I bought some SLV calls for August. Lets squeeze this bitch and end the F. E. & D. boss.

short gme
so I can slurp

>>60609833
Actually, thinking about it a little more - my wager is that you'll have a hard time finding people who actually know what a P/E ratio. Even among stock owners, I'd wager the majority does not understand the concept. Among the minority that understand, an even smaller minority actually cares & pays attention to it

>>60609867
When the crash comes, people will lose their jobs and be forced to sell.

>>60609833
New normal in the age of robinhood. Companies don't pay dividends anyway so nobody gives a shit what the earnings are. It will stay like this until the day humanity believes infinite economic growth is no longer needed, at which point stock growth will stop being the focus and companies actually would pay dividends.

>>60609899
Exactly this. Robinhood normies don't know what a P/E ratio is, what earnings are, or even how to look up earnings. Or any other fundamental for that matter.

This whole financial system is so fuckin retarded, I'm contemplating becoming a cryptobro.

>>60609899
its irrelevant wizardry. pe does not mean that the company is injecting value in the stock, only dividend and buyback stock correlate with the business that way. the rest are just ponzis that go up as long as a greater fool comes after you

>>60609867
Yes but if you take the P/E ratio out of the equation, the only sources of return are dividends (how much is the yield now, 1.2%?) and earnings growth which is slowing.
How many people are happy with like 5% annual nominal returns when inflation is 3%?

Unless the P/E ratio keeps climbing, people will lose interest in stock market returns pretty quickly.
Even if you assume elevated P/E ratios are normal because of the popularity of passive index funds, that popularity might be in trouble.

I could be wrong and the P/E ratio could keep climbing endlessly and people will keep buying endlessly, but I feel that the higher it goes, the more resistance there will be.

>>60609836
because fuck us thats why

>>60609833
Palantir's PE ratio is single handedly adding like 10 points to that.

Can my Stocks Go Up more please

>>60609929
no

>>60609833
Tech companies have higher than average p/e as a baseline because of their potential market expansion and they are increasing larger % of the index

I think in a way it is a new normal and the return to the mean is a bit of an arbitrary arguement. We would need to see a complete reversal of globalism and the internet connectivity to return to the old potential market sizes and that just dors t seem very realistic or likely

>>60609833
exponential technological growth

>>60609909
I think crypto's even more retarded, or maybe I'm too much of a boomer for it desu

>>60609941
As long as others are more retarded after me, it's fine.

>>60609833
>be new stock lad this year
>read up on the basics
>like P/E
>look at all the top performers
>magnitudes higher than the mean
yep meme, remember VIBE market

>>60609949
They need to be retarded and still have money. Its a rare combination during a panic boss.

>>60609941
just bought back the doge bags. fucker went up even more while i looked away and refused to move at all the days i held it

>>60609932
tech companies only have higher p/e because of higher expected growth. How much of that growth actually materializes though? GDP is still only around 3% annually. Also globalism has been reversing yet prices are going even higher. The only real explanation is speculation and growing bubble.

>>60609953
For individual stocks it might be less relevant if they are growing fast. For many years Amazon was basically making no money whatsoever but it was growing rapidly. It's fine to have a shitty P/E ratio if that's the case.
But for the stock market as a whole to have such a high P/E ratio I think is a warning sign.

>>60609941

You need to accept that the old world of logic, reasoning & order is dead and gone. This is idiocracy now, PE doesn't matter, Debt doesn't matter, its literally a vibes based speculative economy. The GTA V stock market mini game makes more sense than the IRL markets.

Once you stop fighting this because you know it shouldn't be so, accept that the market makers are even more retarded than you and start investing as though you were a massive hype driven retard yourself, you will become more profitable than you could ever imagine.

Crypto is the cocaine of this retarded make believe market. It is a Wild West of scamming and no regulations whatsoever that stays open 24/7 365 days a year. It has 0 value and is the metaphysical manifestation of greater fool theory. Once you accept this, ape into ETH & BTC and Chainlink and remember this post in 10 years when you are on vacation from gainz while the world burns. (Metaphorically as climate change is a scam).

>>60609966
watch that tom lee video. the median s&p has gone down over the last 5 years, and the ones with highest p/e have very high growth rates. the market is cheap. shiller p/e is a blunt tool.

>>60609982
>median s&p
median s&p p/e ratio

I CAN'T PICK A STOCK

Another V recovery for me teehee

Another V recovery for thee teehee

Another V recovery for we teehee

Every V recovery fills me with glee teehee

>>60610000
Just buy calls on spy at open.

>NVDA
this has to be the top

>>60610000
have you tried picking them all

nigvid kings we gonna make it.

>>60608426 (OP)
Jamie, jamie, jamie

The United States has a significantly larger national debt than the Eurozone, both in absolute terms and as a percentage of their respective economies (GDP). The US national debt is over $36 trillion, while the Eurozone's total debt is around €13 trillion. The US debt-to-GDP ratio is approximately 122%, exceeding the Eurozone's 87%.

>>60610021
bullish for the US, faustian even

>>60610021
Debt is good

>>60610009

Lol 250 will be the top in about 18 months time.
$10T valuations will become normalised within the next couple of years. Fiat currency is in its death throws.

>>60610021
The United States has the US Military, which has bases all over the Eurozone boss.

>>60610021
Funny how the headline doesn't mention the other part of the article:
>The JPMorgan Chase boss also told the event that there was “complacency in the markets” around U.S. tariffs and rates.
>Dimon said he saw a 40-50% chance that the Federal Reserve would need to raise interest rates to tackle inflation, against market pricing of around a 20% chance.

>>60610023
The US is finished. It lasted 30 years longer than the soviets. The tariffs are the end of the dollar as a reserve.

Eurozone ECB rates peaked in Sept 2024 at 3.5%
Since then there have been 8 consecutive rate cuts and now it's 2%.

Meanwhile, the German 30 year yield doesn't care.
Maybe a sign of things to come for the US?

Looking at this chart makes me think that there is no amount of rate cuts the Fed can do if tresury yields climb above unsustainable levels (around 6%). They will need to print money and buy them directly.

>>60610021
yeah eu policy is killing their growth. usa and china pump tons of money and grow hard meanwhile eu has been left behind as they are all "responsible" and regulated

SOFI bros we STILL eatin' good

>>60610009
There are people in this very thread who didn't buy pre-split

henlo mister jerome
we need a double emergency rate cuts now
no please make it a triple shot
thank you mister jerome

>>60610029
US troops in Europe would not last five minutes if hostilities commenced and teh US can no longer affort them you fat pedo retard.

>>60610000
then chill. wait for an opportunity.
personally i'm waiting for the next leg down on meta for a scalp trade. if it never comes so be it.
do. not. buy. just. to. play. have a reason.

>>60610039
>tfw bought presplit (but at postsplit equivalent of ~$30) and sold at (post-split) $140
I should've fucking held. Easiest $90k I've made in a long time, though.

>>60610036
The EU has completely outclassed the USA in every way from roads to health and will continnue to do so. The US has a much smaller much older population and as bond rates dise for the next decade you can enjoy remembering how tariffs started the real collapse. Thank God the Russians have alreday been finished by the Ukranians.

>>60610039
I'm old enough to have gone through two Apple stock splits. A 4-to-1 and a 7-to-1.
I hope it happens to you Nvidia bros.

I wonder if it would make sense to buy stocks that split and hold them forever. Seems to be a good sign.

you did remember to buy the all time high, didn't you /smg/?

Guys you might wanna sell...

>>60610047
>meta
pure garbage

>>60610046
We would just send more boss. We have so many, and they all speak English. How would the eurozone militaries even communicate if we nuked google translate boss?

>401(k) investors rushed to safe havens in the second quarter
haha panican boomers

>>60610065
That doesn't even make any sense.

>can't buy soxl for the second day in a row because my app shits the bed
fun

jannies are greenlit

>>60610021
I suspect eu is hiding debt in local entities similar to the Chinese

The market cap for us equities is 450% above the eu's so even though it has 300% more debt that's still +150% diff. I know this is a bad arguement but you're stupid so its ok

>>60610033
Why would yields go down? Trump slaps a 50% tariff on copper. Who are these retards buying US treasuries?

>>60610036
Growing 3% for 5x the debt compared to EU is not really worth it.

>>60610061
why do some one the big companies not split? you have the rest of "mag7" at absurdly high prices preventing people from investing in them

>>60610073
I'm glad that someone like you had no real future ahead of them, I'm sorry for my other American friend, the dierrence is they have freinds in Europe. people like you can stay and down in your own self induced pool of shit, prositutes and drugs and lard and worthless jingoism and pathos aplenty from your smelly lardball ass. Has amazon fired you yet? They will.

>>60610084
The assumption is that big buyers have enough and retail buyers use online platforms with fractional shares.

However I spoke to my accountant and he said that "fractional shares" are typically handled by the platforms OTC in their own platform, which is technically supposed to be taxed differently from regular purchases through an exchange.
It's unlikely anyone will ever check, but if you ever get audited and they want to find something to pin on you, they will.

I have never bought fractional shares since then.

>>60610086
Is English still the official language of the EU even without England being part of the socialist republic anymore boss?

doesn't look like the sp coin is going to go green today

>>60610084
to make your options unaffordable to gamblers

>>60609631
>Tariffs are good

theres the stpid right there
>>60610026
>Debt is good
ask japan about that

>>60610047
OSCR is down but I'm not sure

>>60610096
Have you watched the EU parliament once? They can all speak in their native language. It will be translated in realtime.

>>60610106

OSCR below $15 is the easiest buy I've seen since UNH at $250. Don't think just buy and forget about it until January 2026.

>>60610102
Annooooo Nihon-san ……….. “debuto” wa daijobu, hai?

>>60610108
I don't pay attention to insignificant bickering boss.

>>60610079
>keep an eye out for the jannies don't fall for their SOXL and palantir posting
>baghold if you have to ignore the bobo fudding and you'll be home free with gains

>>60610071
I couldn't understand any of this, but since it's about Jerome I assume it's bad.

>>60610118
I watch the senate hearings, and I love me some Maxine Waters.

We used to get articles like
>if you bought Apple stock instead of buying Apple products, you'd have X
>if you bought Nvidia stock instead of buying Nvidia cards, you'd have Y

Now get ready for this
>if you bought Interactive Brokers stock instead of buying stocks through IBKR, you'd have ...

>>60610143
Also, these guys charge me less than a sandwich to buy 5 digits worth of stocks. How are they worth $100bn, I will never understand.

Not a single mention of INKT

Are you guys retarded?

>>60610046
Lmao imagine a European getting in a fight

>>60610152
Loaded up 3 days ago and exited at the top with the bank. Nothing worth posting about.

>>60610118
Projecting hard there you fucking fat whore mongering ball of lard flying a chair junkie looser

>>60610149
margin fees

>>60610153
>Lmao imagine a European getting in a fight.

Ever heard of ww1 and ww2, the spanish civil war, the winter war, the Ukranian war etc etc or did you miss education entirely since your school was sponsored by Pepsi and McDonalds and immediately move to living under a rock in kansas. Bet you know the full menu and all the diet versions.

ITT
Actual morons.

>>60610185
How many people trade on margin?

I'm too afraid to touch that stuff.

>>60610033
Yield curves across the globe have steepened due to increased government debt issuance and heightened trade policy risk, which will cause inflation eventually, and long-term debt is especially vulnerable. (See post WW2 bonds) Every bond strategist I've seen on Bloomberg shuns the long end of the YC and prefers either the belly or short-term gov debt

>>60610174
You shouldn't talk about your mother that way boss.

>>60610171
500% play not worth posting about. OK bro

>>60610199
The fact that you have to go back a century or cite conflicts which don’t directly involve the majority of Western Europe only proves his point, retard.

Instead of getting fucked by credit cards/bank you can go do an SPX box 2 year box spread right now equal to your portfolio value and get a literal 0% interest loan.


Thank me later.

>>60610216
Seethig maga bitches and kremlinn brexiteers watching their cuntries crash and burn while they snort coke and dribble on 4chan. priceless.

>market goes down just a little
>/smg/ fills up with "i fuck you're mother" tier shit flinging
Shameful

Anybody gonna stop those Houthis? America, hello?

>>60610033
There is a 40y debt cycle theory and in that framework we have just exited the 40y cutting cycle and have entered the 40y hiking cycle. 1940-1980 there was hiking and deleveraging of the ww2 debt, 1980-2020 there was cutting and leveraging up

>>60610230
we have to do something about all these angry Europeans, some kind of final solution mayhaps

>>60610233
Nah, don't stop them. They raise shipping rates which is good for my stocks.

>>60610238
They just suffering from terminal little dick syndrome boss.

>>60610242
you should show them your cool car

>>60610228
You’re clearly the only one seething that Europe can no longer mount an offense OR defense with its lackluster military power. Even China could roll the EU. Cope.

>>60610247
nah, i'ma just ignore them and move on boss.

>>60610251
Won't happen, you will protect us. For free.

>>60610199
As soon as one American pulls his big mutt cock out every European male in the vicinity will tear each other to shreds like rabid animals to be the first to slurp on that beautiful circumcised penis

>>60610033
>>60610207
As depicted, the yield on 10Y-02Y gov debt for several large economies
It could mean that the yield on the 2Y is decreasing, but way more common is the yield on 10Y gov debt is increasing

>>60610253
never even bought. im not paying 32 rupees plus tip for random stocks when i can gamble without such fees

>>60610307
It has to be black though

>>60610253
I did and bought back cheaper
Still holding 1k shares

>And for the Euro, perhaps a lifetime of shareholder value creation?
>Perhaps not. I'll have the yacht in Monaco with lots and lots of escorts.
https://www.generalist.com/p/europes-great-founders-must-unretire

>>60610360
yeah euros aren't into generational stuff. get rich quick schemes are more familiar so they instantly sell when their thing is starting to gain interest and spend it all on houses, cars, drugs and hookers

>>60610318
yield on 2Y is decreasing, 10Y has been flat since 10Y-2Y bottomed

GALTSISSIES WE ARE SO BACK

>>60610360
A trvke of an article desu, the settle down after making it attitude is pervasive everywhere

>fomod
>down 30

>>60610152
Anyone can post about shit that already mooned nigger

>>60610205
way too many
But the economy needs dumb people to work

>>60610383
It's both.
The yield on the 10Y is increasing, whilst the yield on the 2Y is decreasing, classic bobo steepener.
>US10Y/US02Y is logarithmic

MOOGLIES we are finally going to break the 182 sell wall and rocket into the 190's

WAGMI

Also GRRR will make me a millionaire and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Laugh all you want, call the CEO a stinky scammy jeet, but this meme is going to help me live my dreams.

>>60610387
>2% pump
why even memestock at this point, just buy the weekly RHM or FAGMAN dips

morning niggers. why are stocks so high today?

>>60610520

They might seem high now but they are lower than they will be next week. Buy more today. Especially GOOGL & GRRR

>everything in my portfolio is red
>but im green for the day

>>60610378
>the euros arwnt into generational stuff

The pure ignorance of biz dwellers never seizes to amaze me

>>60610505
My GRRR hit a limit at 22 and I solded, if it goes to 30 don’t say anything or I’ll kms
>>60610550
Is this a koan

>>60610555
Checked.
T. was raised in a house built by my great-grandfather, currently build on a property that belonged to a different great-grandfather.

>>60610577
no wonder you guys are so fucked up, your great-grandfathers were brothers

>>60610577
more and more people rent a cuckbox in the city

>>60610065
So pic related refers to ATHs and not crashes?

>>60610075
ATHs tend to cluster. We will hopefully see many more ATHs soon?

It's very hard to see but if you hover over the numbers it's visible: the Fed increased its holdings last week.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/TREAST

It's happening.

semiconductor Vs healthcare Vs bitcoin miners&datacenters

good times for bear chads

>>60610616
Homebuilders

Just kidding I don't buy individual sectors.
But if I did, I'd buy them.

Buy $KIND before the ticker change. Old CEO back. Getting rid of the hippie-dippie woke bullshit.

>>60610624
Why can't we get a white polar bear boss?

OSS Chads how we feelin?

Is he trying to make "boss" his signature or is he so autistic that he still finds it "ironically" funny after 2 months?

>>60610588
No but it's funny that you mention that, as the latter's son did lay pipe on his own niece and from there I got a grandmother.

>>60610624
>market down 0.4%, flat on the week
>bobo still gloats

>>60608977
nah silver still rigged they would never allow that. we will probably see higher prices but never ever a squeeze

>>60610652
Based

>>60610632
as is my policy, I will get a hundred bucks of anything I see for the first time on SMG for gambling

>>60610652
For a second, I was trying to figure out this tree, but you know what, fuck it, not worth the time or energy boss.

>MULN up 10%
bottoms in time to head back to 1 quadrillion

>>60610681
falling knife: caught

>>60610681
>put $65k into it
>goes up +10%
>gain is +0.00
the wonders of reverse stock splits

>>60610649
signatures are against global rules so it's funny boss

>>60610672
Ohhh my bad. I missed ONE great in the latter one. Maternal grandmother, daughter of an uncle/niece pairing (one of my maternal grandfathers), and the dude's father, my great-great grandfather, was the owner of the property.
Oops. No Fry timetravel happening here.

>>60610759
Thank you for clearing that up boss.

>>60610670
good man.

side note: i used to work here and dumped all my shares on the secondary market before they uplisted thru a SPAC which turned out to be a great idea. what was not a great idea was staying at that company for as long as I did.

>>60610759
>(one of my maternal grandfathers)
Maternal GREAT grandfathers god damnit I can't think with this heat.

Would you have kept investing after 3 red years back to back, then a bunch of 3% years, followed by a -38% crash?

9 years of nothing.
But the payoff after that was massive.

I'm not planning to retire for another 20 years at least so in theory I'd have no reason not to keep putting money aside for however long it takes. But in practice I don't know if I could do it.

>>60610817
Also, this is sort of multi year shitty market is how you get back to historical average P/E ratios (in reference to earlier conversations).

>>60610817
We should just keep buying SLV until we end the F. E. & D. then with Jay out of the way we can enter "The Golden Age" boss.

>>60610817
I would've ducked out as early as I could for the 38%, bit like when the coof hit, not that I'll pretend that I would've gone back in at a good time

>>60610817
just look after it a bit so it doesn't get to crash that hard

>bobo thought he was going to feast today
TACO lmao

What the fuck is going on? I went from +1700 including pre opening to +1250
Almost lost 1/4 of 7 months gains after opening

>>60610935
still red and mega crab

What do you guys do when you planned on only making a couple thousand on your trade, and then you see this shit gap down and you thought you were going to lose like twenty thousand, but you end up making close to 30 thousand? I want to drink scotch whiskey, but my gookfu doesn't want me drinking, so what the fuck am I supposed to do to celebrate this turn of events boss?

>>60610957
i wake up

>>60610957
I don't gamble like that but when I crossed a certain threshold in my portfolio I thought about taking my friends out for dinner. But then I'd have to explain what I'm celebrating.
So I did nothing.

>>60610967
I don't even feel nothing. It's like I've become desensitized to this shit boss.

why the fuck am i green?

>>60610997
That's what I'm saying boss.

SOXL chads
We
Just
Keep
Winning

>>60611020
but its red again?

NEW THREAD

NEW THREAD

NEW THREAD

>>60611068

>>60611068

>>60611068

NEW THREAD

NEW THREAD

NEW THREAD

>>60609603
Holy fuck. It's called margin. Make sure to post pics when your account goes 60k negative.