wat

boomer gains at best
so exciting

>>60612129 (OP)
150k is bearish, we're going to 200k conservatively

>>60612129 (OP)
Too many people have been pointing this out, so it's exactly what won't happen. Increasing hash rate and thus production price AND future halvings aren't negated by that curve. The top line will become a bottom for a while before eventual further liftoff even if not this cycle.

>>60612129 (OP)
Stop looking at the log scale, log scale is gay.
Look at the real scale.
It's an exponential curve.

>>60612188
3rd worlders not welcome in the bitcoin thread, thanks.

>>60612262
Does your legal guardian know what you post on the internet?

>>60612129 (OP)
Interesting I have the original Pic when he first posted it. Lines up pretty well but I think we'll hit 150k a little earlier than october

The bull run has been suppressed for too long and when it finally takes off it'll be like a spring expanding after the 400 pound retard who made this thread finally stops stepping on it

>>60612420
Even so, I see a max of 180k btc q4, no way we hit 200k this cycle imo

>>60612262
Do know what happens to exponential curves? They end

>>60612279
Can we tilt the trend lines a bit to account for the real values?

>>60612129 (OP)
this is a pretty reasonable prediction
>>60612188
and this is a pretty reasonable reaction
the days of getting rich from crypto are long gone

>>60612129 (OP)
sam the scam bankfraud admitted in court to suppressing bitcoin price.
lets see where we go this time.

>>60612129 (OP)
Too many people are aware of the four year cycle, and everyone will be attempting to front run the anticipated November top.
I am expecting a ~$140k cycle top in October, or even September.
Alts will be disappointing and most won't even hit their highs from the previous cycle. The easy money conditions aren't here.
All of this followed by a diminished bear market with a -60% to -70% drawdown. Maybe like a ~$45k bottom around Q3 2026 (yeah, I think the bottom will be frontrun too)

>>60612926
too many people are aware of the 4 year cycle yet literally no one believes in it. when we went down from 109k to 75k everyone thought that was it. "15k to 109k, that was your bullrun retards" ive seen that too many times here lmao
i guarantee once btc hits 160-200k, the same crowd will be screaming supercycle and calling for 300-500k in 2026. most people are midwits and dont believe in things that only the low and high iq do (im the former)

>>60612129 (OP)
thanks ive been looking for good traders to follow. his bio says he done posting cuz tradingview mods are censoring him tho thats gay

>>60612129 (OP)
Technical analysis chart fags will always make me laugh. They are the tea leaf readers of the finance world and its always a scam

>>60612188
If it hits 150k, I'd have just about 9x'd in three years. It's entirely possible that I more than 10x. Boomer gains are doubling your money in like ten years, retard.

>>60612926
I really don't think that "too many people" are aware of the four-year cycle. You're giving people too much credit concerning financial matters.

Regarding alts, I'm still betting that you're going to get guys like the first person I quoted who are going to flood into altcoins because they didn't have the foresight to get in on Bitcoin and still want their easy 10x. The odds are definitely slimmer than they've been in the past because Tom and Dick on Main St. are flat broke right now, but if normies do flood in, they'll go to altcoins because "Bitcoin is just too expensive". That said, I am betting that eventually altcoin season will go extinct.

>>60612262
>don't look at log scale bro
absolute state of biz

>>60613022

Astrology for men.

>>60612430
no, they go up for infinity

>>60613100
log scale makes it look like it's not going up exponentially.
and it is going up exponentially.
Let me say this again.
IT"S GOING UP FUCKING EXPONENTIALLY!!

>>60613737
non-retards can interpret a log chart

>>60613753
There are a lot of log charts and they are all different and are deceptive fake and gay, just look at the real chart.

Do you see how the top on the rainbow chart is like 600k
the top on OPs gay chart the top is 118k.
Very deceptive propaganda.

>>60612129 (OP)
The past is just a guide or we would call Canada Gog and Mexico Magog and make everything about ourselves.

>>60612227
Yesterday the ETFs bought over 10,000 BTC.
Today the ETFs bought about 8750 BTC.
https://farside.co.uk/btc/

If you look at the long-term average inflow, assuming that it remains steady, the price will stabilize at $300K/BTC. I would expect that inflows will slow down as BTC rises, though, because people will say >>60612188
>boomer gains at best
and slow down their buy-ins. So my prediction is $250K.

But that doesn't include the buys from "Bitcoin treasury" companies, which were larger than the ETFs last quarter (some news report a week or two ago), so it could be more.

However, if more state pension funds and national treasuries start looking at BTC, we could end up seeing long-term permanent DCAing inflows from these places. Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and I think also Florida have announced that they are buying, not in huge amounts but at least enough to learn the processes.

Anyway, add these companies and states and countries into the mix, and we're looking at enormous gains in the future.

Lastly, what has killed Bitcoin every cycle is massive fraud perpetrated by unregulated exchanges -- MtGox in 2013, the ICO and shitcoin boom in 2017, and FTX in 2021. This time, the buying is happening by and through heavily regulated entities that aren't going to steal all the money and use it to fund Democratic Party candidates. And because they're not doing that this time, and because the price action has been so subdued this time (no frothy parabolic blowoffs in sight yet), I don't see any reason for us to have a massive crash.

>>60613790
>So my prediction is $250K.
BTW, I'm going to tag this with a name so I can find it later.

>>60613796
We'll see, I'm half expecting a legacy institution to rug kek

>>60612227
>a couple of trillion is gonna go into btc because it will ok

>>60612926
This but $120k

>>60612926
>Too many people are aware of the four year cycle now so I'm going to front run them
>Too many people are aware that too many people are aware of the four years cycle
This is why there will be two tops. One very soon (120-130k) and another in Q4'25 (150-180k).

I dun give a fuck, I deserve a shot at the easy money too and am 100% in alts and shitcoins altszn ftw

>>60612926
Possible

>>60612926
screencapping this future roper

imagine still not understanding lol

diminishing returns...kek

yeah. bitcoin will go to $120k then to $180k in 4 years then to $200k in another 4 years. so it will be 16 years until you finally see $220k.

kek

holy shit ... midwit cowards have really found /biz/ and made it their home

>>60613790
>$300K/BTC.
When?

>>60613796
you dont need to do that. what you wrote is what sane people understand. Let these morons on /biz/ spread their fear porn. Let them sell to blackrock or one of those companies. Or me. It'll only make the price go higher. They are looking at $250k by 2040 (diminishing returns after all!)

>>60614402
That is easily happening this year if there are no black or orange swans

uhh bros I'm getting worried for eoy. He successfully predicted BTC run all the way back in 2022

>>60614408
Wow he called the top after about 3 months of btc dumping $30k and central banks stopping QE. impressive. Even more impressive is the number of data points and cherry picking of the lines.

so again, according to this diminishing returns prediction it looks like the upper bound has a horizontal symptote somewhere around $140k or $150k. meaning the price will infinitely approach $150k but never reach it. Thats what you are getting at right? Just like RE and other assets? I mean, just like gold too, right? The diminishing returns? Right?

>>60614425
>asymptote*

or like S&P? diminishing returns right?

infinitely approaching $6000?

these people are so fucking moronic, I swear to god

the only way any of this diminishing returns shit can be true is if there is a finite amount of money, if our labor does not increase productivity over time, etc. etc.

it basically assumes a stagnant world where the current state is eternalized

It's the most retarded vision, and really exemplifies the "humans cant grasp exponentiality" trope

Diminishing returns against hwat, THE EVER DIMINISHING INFLATION?? dude it's a law of nature that as long as you have fiat you CANT HAVE diminishing returns ON BITCOIN!!!!!!

fucking KILL yourselves, morons. No wait, just sell. Sell at $120k. You'll kill yourselves in weeks or months or years

>bb--b-b-b-b--buit I can has diminishing returns on [insert garbage]
MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S A PIECE OF SHIT FUGAZI ASSET compared to bitcoin

>>60614425
>>60614428
>>60614437
>>60614442
wtf is this schizo drabble, if you are so confident of BTC tops/lows why don't you open a 50x leverage short/long position

>>60612262
Jesus christ

>big pump to 27k
>capitulate for 6 months
>big pump to 67k
>capitulate for 6 months
>big pump to 108k
>capitulate for 6 months
>big pump to 118k
>???
lol, enjoy capitulating until December, you might get a BIG PUMP to 125k before capitulating for another 6 months.

>>60613730
no, they go up then left.

Bears are going to get killed as BTC hits 1M in three easy steps:

1. Powell gets forced out, rates drop
2. Tarrifs simultaneously dropped so,
3. Fat retard can claim the most bigly economic growth in history.

>>60612601
>the days of getting rich from crypto are long gone

>>60614900
capitulate back to 40K btc within this 6 months ?

>>60612994
>high iq
High iq don't make money in markets. See Mike McGlone, Steve Van Metre, David Levenson, etc etc. All these fucking boomers sideline people, they spend all day looking at all sort of metrics that don't matter. Midwits and low IQ will be less risk averse, more low inhibition. I have never completed an IQ test so my IQ is basically non existant and yet im up almost a million on MSTR because when I see a good narrative I strike in early and I strike in big. These fucking morons will never make any relevant amount of money and will remain sidelined.

As far as the top, Blackrock and co may push it beyond what high IQ frontrunners think will be the top, this may make them sidelined or ending up ragebuying the top. High IQ money is exit liquidity, they are only good to complete retarded ass pattern recognition test and useless math shit that does not matter in the arena.

>>60612129 (OP)
>btc stabilizes at 150k forever because my memeline says so
how dumb are people to believe this, its measured against fiat
fiat that is devalued daily, government debt is going to explode via the cbo itself and guess what happens more debt monetization
do people really still dont understand there isnt a bottom to fiat

>>60614910

>>60612129 (OP)
5 of 5 in a v of v
mainstream tries to sell crapto to normal faggots. its over, for good this time

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/JSP3KDmy-New-long-term-prediction-as-I-see-it-now/

still the best

some thoughts from a market participant from 2013

clearly over time there's been diminishing trough-to-peak returns from 2013 -> 2017 -> 2021 --> 2025 (?). Logical conclusion is to scale down the 2021 run and call for 150-200k peak this cycle which would be sometime in 4Q25. I've always figured how people would get this particular cycle wrong would be that they sell too early in response to having gotten 2021 wrong by selling too late. Everyone will get behind the "diminishing returns" narrative and sell way too early

meanwhile the underlying market dynamics have changed dramatically in the last 4-5 years with the advent of the ETF's, regulatory approval/adoption, and other factors. The price action has notably changed. We've more or less marched to ATH and beyond off the 20k low on a slow but steady basis with no sign of the parabolic log blowoffs that are the hallmarks of a peak. You could make the case that we're still in the broad accumulation phase circa 2015-16 which would imply when the mania gets going it will be larger than anyone believes. I personally think we can see 400-500k

problem is too many "traditional" pieces of information (4 year cycles, peak post-halving, peaking around EOY, diminishing returns) do make a strong case for nothing more than 150-175k by EOY25 and I can't entirely ignore that.

I feel almost better that we went through the 6mo chopsolidation post-inauguration including the dip to 75k to shake out a lot of participants, this makes me more bullish that we have further to go because it supports the "sell too early" mistake I believe people will make this time around

>>60612262
retard

>>60616445
>still the best
You think this is the most accurate chart to follow?

>>60613757
Thats a log chart bro. I see an inverted parabola. I guess that one doesnt fit your paradigm.

>>60616909
do you see how in one of the log charts the top is ~118k
and in the other chart the top (the red part of the rainbow) is ~600k
but supposedly it's the same chart, what is happening here?
That's because the log chart scale is so deceptive because the scale of the graph is so fucked up that miniscule changes make completely different implications.

>>60614478
what a moronic fucking take. you're not worth a reply

>>60616750
possibru

>>60616750
This.

>>60615640
they're myopic niggercattle

>>60616937
If the top is 118k of one and 600k of another, they are not the same chartnas you would have me believe.
>Things that are different are not the same.

>>60616967
ok here's another one that shows something completely different

>>60613022
TA works whether you want to believe it or not. That said, not all TA works. The simpler the better imo.

>>60616993
Your chart shows BTC dead in Q12023. You really ought to reconsider your fundamentals and evaluate the usefulness of log charts as well as study of your investments: who, what, when, where, why (stated why as well as inferred why). Your TA is only one aspect of data useful for investment purposes.

>>60613944
nigger you're retarded and dont understand how market caps work

>>60612129 (OP)
how did an anime avatar predicted this?

>>60612420
>The bull run has been suppressed for too long
I have bad news for you
we've been in a bull run since 2023 and it's about to end

>>60617059
Proving my point that the log chart is a deceptive chart.

>>60616750
ignore those bumps, they're just blips.

>>60612262
>>60616750
>ignore those bumps, they're just blips.
indeed

>>60613790
this is good post, but not relevant for this cycle, the information in it will however be driver behind the next cycle