Thread 60639135

Inappropriate Non-Interest Bearing Instrument Edition.

>Why Gold & Silver?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo

>Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitable
https://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos

>Bullion dealers
https://libertycoin.com/(US)
https://www.chards.co.uk/(EU/UK)
https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/(Ancient)
https://www.luciteria.com/(Other rare metals)
more at:https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Numismatic search
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

>News and graphs
https://numismag.com/en/home-en/
https://silverseek.com/
https://www.silverdoctors.com/
https://www.mining.com/
https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silver
https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/(US)
https://eu.compare.pm/(EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/(DE/EU)

>Resources
https://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
https://www.coinflation.com/
http://coinapps.com/
https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation/
https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa/
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-minerals
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database

Previous Thread: >>60628632

>>60639135 (OP)
What does gold do that bitcoin doesn't?

Late into night, he sat hunched over his ever-growing hoard of gold and silver, each coin and ingot gleaming like a promise of immortality. His skin, once ruddy and vibrant, had turned ashen and papery, veins standing out like dark tributaries beneath a dead riverbed. He scarcely ate or slept, preferring instead to stroke the cold surfaces of his treasure, listening to the hollow clink of metal as if it were a lullaby. The vault around him filled with dust and the sour stench of decay, yet he could not tear his bloodshot eyes from the glint of his fortune. In the flickering lantern light, the shadows of his wealth seemed to breathe, crawling along the walls with hungry intent.

Days blurred into a feverish routine of counting, polishing, and hoarding; his joints stiffened, his mind frayed, and his heart slowed to a stuttering throb. He whispered sweet promises to the gold—vows of eternal companionship and adoration—while the silver coins, engraved with ghostly faces, stared back at him with cold indifference. His fingers, blackened by neglect and the toxic sheen of metal, trembled whenever he tried to nourish himself. The weight of obsession pressed down on his chest like an iron vise, squeezing out whatever humanity remained. Yet even as his body withered, his eyes burned with a terrible devotion to the riches that would never save him.

One final night, a guttering lantern threw grotesque angles across the room as he collapsed onto piles of stolen splendor. He gasped for breath, the metallic tang in his mouth mingling with the coppery taste of blood. From the yawning closet at the room’s far end came a soft, rasping sound—a gulp, a sniff, a promise. The door creaked open, and in stepped a goblin girl: eyes glinting emerald hunger, skin mottled like aged bronze, fingers tipped with obsidian claws. She surveyed his slack form and smiled, revealing rows of jagged teeth, before leaning in to feast on the only treasure left: his fragile, starving flesh...

>>60639146

Exist.

>>60639146
>>60639150
This level of obsession is deeply unhealthy.

>>60639150

Is this the power of infinite monkeys with typewriters?

>>60639146
take up a spot on the periodic table

>>60639146
fill up a spot on the periodic table

Feeling so flush i might buy Mintys entire run of frog rounds just to flex,,,,,I've got a huge cash pile to invest just bought Harmony gold forward p/e of 5 AND Sasol. I love me some South African miners

>>60639158
Bitcoin exists. Does 4chan exist?

>>60639165
I don't care about your rock. How is it better than Bitcoin? Name one thing it does, that Bitcoin can't do.

>>60639186
Who cares?

>i don't care about your rock
>will proceed to post 30 more times in the thread

I really want yall to get rich like me then you can help the next generation and never work again i tried to help you with those two picks that did a 5x in 18 months. Not all my picks did that great but i just looked and I've made passive income this year of 9 times my expenses. Learn to walk the talk or learn to listen,,,,,,first thing is get your income up so you have capital to invest, start a business even selling frog rounds,,,,,, coin merchants are doing billions in advertising for you.

pay me. pay me
pay me my silver now
pay me or go to jail
pay me my silver now

But (you) spend the most time here out of anyone

>>60639158
got em

>>60639146
it's real money

>>60639203
>Name one thing it does, that Bitcoin can't do
Can be used if the vulnerable internet infrastructure is taken down.

>>60639203
>Bitcoin exists

not it doesn't

>Does 4chan exist?

no

Twas on a cold December day
I found myself upon the shore
The sea from whence I did crawl out
With clothes and breath but nothing more

To look across the endless waves
A decade since, and so unkind
To be so close and yet so far
From that which I had left behind

When lo behold! What scuttles so?
I see the shine beneath the blue
Then sideways through the breaking foam
The grandest crab I ever knew

Adorned with gold and silver how!
A crown atop his mighty shell
With chains and rings for all to see
And captivate under his spell

Oh crab most fine! I bow to thee,
Crustacean King so bright!
What Kingdom must you rule beneath
The depths untouched by light

The crab spoke thus, my fellow sir!
Please kneel not as I pass!
A king? Oh no, it is not so
In fact I am but middle class!

My land and home so far below
Is filled with things as these
From those on land with luck so poor
Who dare take to the seas


I come ashore but one a year
To pay my due respect
To sailors and their sunken ships
Whose treasures I collect

So take my boy, this sovereign bright
And dwell not on the memory
Of that which you have sorely lost
Which lies so deep beneath the sea.

Picking up a 25toz tube of maples
I have a night of fondling ahead of me

Silver up .5%
Gold up .7%
SBSW up 2%
Bitcoin up 3%
Platinum up 4%
Ethereum up 11%

Lmao i had to buy Harmony Gold to rebalance out my massive gains in ETH in 4 days

>>60639343
try not to get too excited

>>60639203
>I don't care about your rock.
You care more than any other person on 4chan. You post like 45 replies every single thread, people assume you must be an LLM because of how obsessed you are with rocks. I like PMs as much as the next guy, but you are obsessed, dude.

>>60639165
>>60639171

He woke beneath a twilight sky that rippled with molten metal, the air thick with the scent of ozone and precious ore. At his feet lay a vast basin of liquid gold and silver, each wave arcing like molten silk. Curiosity propelled him forward, toes meeting the gleaming surface as if stepping into a dream spun from the sun and moon. A hush fell around him, broken only by the soft hiss of metal against skin. He inhaled deeply, tasting the warmth of creation itself.

With a powerful dive, he plunged into the molten sea. Golden ripples danced across his arms while silver currents wound around his legs, lifting him as effortlessly as feathers on a breeze. Every stroke sent showers of incandescent droplets into the dim air, painting the sky with fleeting constellations of light. In that weightless realm, time dissolved; seconds stretched into infinity, each heartbeat echoing like a chime within his chest. He felt unbound, every worry melting away like dross in the flow of pure possibility.

When he finally rose to the surface, dawn was breaking, and the metal waters cooled into gentle pools of dew and mist. He stepped out onto soft grass, droplets of gold and silver clinging to his skin like promises. The dreamscape faded behind him, but the afterglow lingered in his veins—a reminder that magic can be found in the alchemy of imagination. As his eyes fluttered open to the real world, he carried the molten sunrise in his heart, forever changed by the shimmering depths he’d once swum.

>>60639224
>>60639363
Dumb stacktards can't even correctly identify IQ anymore

My ruthenium stays cubic

Man, I rarely come to /pmg/ anymore. I gotta start being a regular again...

>>60639420
IQ isn't a person

>>60639135 (OP)
A coin shop near me has a bunch of coins in various bottom of the barrel alphabet soup grading company slabs (not NGC, PCGS or ANACS), should I be cautious about buying anything at all from them?
>Captcha: 8KKK8

>>60639500
having a few crap slabs for sale isn't a big deal.
If most of their inventory is crap slabs then you need to go find a different store.

Is Todds PMG also formerly holoanon?
Im so confused?
If not, where did he go? Does he still lurk here?

>>60639812
Why do you want Todd's Garbage? that stuff is hideous looking and hyuge premiums

>>60639812
No different person. Holo is still suggesting there are more coins coming. There are three mints from pmg.

>>60639361
I'll go slow

My order of 40 scrap silver quarters came in the mail, even with shipping they were under scrap value by $15. Feels good

>>60639200
I'm totally not mintanon but that would absolutely change his life right now and you should definitely do that

this looks much nicer in person than these pictures. possible erstabschlag

>>60639420
>correctly identify IQ
Okay I identify yours like 53. Are you happy now?

>>60639812
holoanon?

finally broke 100 oz of silver. last 10 were painful to buy at this price. I got a half ounce of gold from a while back too. Soooo should I stack more silver? or save for another half oz of gold to adjust my ratio

anyone have experience sending metal/scrap off to a refiner? What was the process like, are they as Jewry as scrapyards?

>>60639923
just like scrapyards, they usually post prices they're paying and you either sell to them or not.

>>60639903
congrats. what 1/2 oz did you get? find low premium fractionals, like the ones on monument, and split between silver and gold? say the gold and silver twin maples, or the other canadian gold they have for cheap

>>60639314
Facts...

>>60639903
>last 10 were painful to buy at this price
Some day, you'll look back at this price and think "that was cheap as hell, why didn't I buy more?"

>>60639903
>Soooo should I stack more silver? or save for another half oz of gold to adjust my ratio

Sell it all and start a business,,,,silver us a shit investment

>>60639954
how about when they're printed off pages?

>>60639942
The gold I have now is a 1913 buffalo nickle, and a 1853 liberty dollar and a 88 sov. so more like 0.4 oz gold
Im kiiiinda thinking of getting another sov cause I like it so much.

>>60639956
Lmao silver is down 70% inflation adjusted from 1980. It's never going up, its a rock

>It's never going up
Bad news, crotch smear

>>60639984
My dick is up 60% and it's rock hard from all this silver

>>60639797
I’m just wondering if he’s using them to fool newfags why don’t know shit about coins into overpaying for junk because it has a slab. Obviously I can’t be fooled by them but it does give an indication of his level of honesty

Love me gold shrimple as.

>>60639983
If you're lf a 1/2 oz you could consider the double sovereign. I got the copper 2024 and am really looking forward to next year's gold colored (more silver less copper) one:) This is a nice chunky sovereign in hand.

Why did Cuba use a 40 cent Silver Coin?

>>60640076
>If you're lf a 1/2 oz you could consider the double sovereign
after some reconsideration, do this

>>60639998
not necessarily. Bad slabs get bought and sold just like good ones. He bought them from someone else and there are people out there that'll buy them from him.

In real life there's not a lot of newbs buying mint state slabs of any sort. People that buy that sort of thing tend to know what's good.

>>60639812
/pmg/ jokes about having a round made.
Someone posts a joke image.
/pmg/ responds favorably.
No-one knows how to do it.
One guy volunteers to learn how and do it.
[- Bayhorse is shilled and becomes a rugpull. -]
/pmg/ approves the round, all still skeptical.
Months go by, both FUD and support posts are prolific.
Crowdsourcing opens.
Price is high: a mint is hired, a die for a small run has to be sculpted, a die has to be made, shipping has to be estimated.
Some people reluctantly place an order, expecting the famous "rugpull".
Some people have faith and order a dozen or more.
Some people scoff and refuse to support.
Picture posted of the die. Wow - could be real.
Anon posts pictures of the incoming boxes of rounds and capsules.
Skeptics still angry and FUD.
People who ordered start getting shipping notices.
People who ordered start receiving rounds.
Mintanon loses money because underestimated costs.
Mintanon is born.
Skeptics rue not having bought spares to sell, seeing a couple Apus go for over $1k each.

>>60640166
/pmg/ floods board with design requests.
Mintanon reluctantly(?) obliges.
Too many designers, but Mintanon volunteers to make it.
WAGMI designed by committee (/pmg/) comes out.
Way more people order and order spares, now trusting Mintanon.

>>60640172
New Anon also proposes Holo the Wise Wolf. It's not 4Chan. It's not /pmg/ requested. It's Anime.
"Oh, but the story is about fiat and silver and fake money."
Err... okaaaayyy... We'll buy it.
Seething from haters begins.
HoloCoinAnon delivers. Consensus is, it's nice!

>>60640181
/pmg/ proposes a Yotsuba round. It IS 4Chan-themed after all. Okay.
HoloCoinAnon volunteers to make it.
Again the cycle of critiques, etc., but more people order because both Mintanon AND HoloCoinAnon came through.
HoloCoinAnon delivers.

>>60640185
MintAnon answers call for Bogdanoff, Prospector, and Boomer rounds.
HoloCoinAnon proposes Megumin, then Otoya (first two /pmg/ rounds also available with gilding).
After Otoyas are delivered, it's the last /pmg/ hears from him.

if they deliver
i deliver

10 years of pmg and no one has made it, almost everyone has lost money, silver is a shit investment, numismatics are a shit investment

>>60640219
It's pretty much MintAnon going it alone for a while. He answers requests for a continuously-available Prospector round and distinguishes it from the original in that it doesn't have a serial #. Then he delivers the requested Crusader, Pirate, and now the Apurand rounds are coming.

>>60640257
Then Todd comes out with a booba coin based on the sitting Liberty, and then the Biblically-accurate Angels.

>>60640257
Then Todd comes out with a booba coin based on the sitting Liberty, and then the Biblically-accurate Angels.

>>60640145
Silver is so taxed here I'm mainly into gold. 2 1/4 Maples or a half oz Maple are also a nice option. I hope anon follows his heart:)

>>60640421
Silver and gold are taxed up to 37% federal and 13% state when sold in the United States even if your gain is just inflation. It's near impossible to even break even

Got my hands on this Syracuse tetradrachm recently, and i'm having a hard time telling if it's legit or not. It was a good deal, but i'd rather send it back if i can't confirm with 90% certainty it's a real one (this coin is one of the most faked one).
The coin have been soldered in 4 differents points to become part of an old necklace, the edge have been heavily sanded and shaved to fit an approximatively round support, and the coin's surface is heavily worn down and got harshly cleaned over a long period of time.

What i can say from observation :
>couldn't see any seam line from casting (but it's maybe simply too sanded/shaved)
>coin definitely is in silver
>shape and volume feels right
>lightweight compared to a non damaged tetra from Syracuse (14g instead of 16.5/17g), but could match with all the wear and shaving
>details are matching the phi type (pretty unusual version, all fakes have seen online are of the much more commons NK or NI types)
>wear seems natural
>what remains of the cracks/folds in the beading looks OK, but it's hard to tell

what do you guys think? (newfags don't need to answer, i want pros).

>>60640514
2/4

>>60640485

That's not true. Many states do not tax gold or silver at all. It is irrelevant what a potential tax would be in a taxing state when you can just cross borders and sell in a tax free state. What are you smoking, because you are 100% wrong.

>>60640525
3/4
you can see of one the 4 solder line on which the pendant was fixed

>>60640532
4/4 another 2 solder "lines", we can see the alloy is different from the coin itself (slightly yellowish tone)

>>60640541
5/4
pretty amateurish job trying to make it into a necklace, as it often was back in the XIXth c. for example

>>60640530
Once again proving pmg is dumb as the rocks they buy. Do some research before you fall fir an obvious scam. When you sell metals you owe tax to the federal government and most likely the state you live in.

>>60640552
the numista catalogue of this type (matching the tyrant Agathokles tetras)
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces49183.html

>>60639972
>how about when they're printed off pages?
At least you can use a piece of paper to wipe your ass or start a fire. Minimal utility value, but some.

Newfag trying to make sense of the numismatic question, the troll and life in general...

>>60640421
I'm thinking about this badger or the 1/10th bear next check if either are still in stock. I like the smaller diameter of the Canadian gold coins.

>>60640514
>>60640525
I'm no help on authenticity, but that is a great looking coin. Are any of these worth grading? I'm pretty clueless on ancient grades and prices.

>>60640578
>At least you can use a piece of paper to wipe your ass or start a fire. Minimal utility value, but some.
I should start stacking prints of my posts as additional SHTF tp prep

>>60640590
That and the bear are both really nice coins:)

>>60640094
Because their communism was semi retarded.

>>60640590
>Are any of these worth grading?
Unless they look like pic rel, i don't think they are worth grading, personally i prefer to fondle them. But grading adds a layer of "security" if you aren't sure of what you are purchasing, so it's not rare for very low grade ones (like mine) to get sent to PCGS just to make potential buyers at ease.

>>60640246
YNBARW

>>60640632
>get sent to PCGS just to make potential buyers at ease.
I thought the general opinion was that NGC was better for world and ancient coins

>>60640671
yeah NGC if you prefer to. Ngl i'm not fond of grading companies in general so i don't try to shill for one over the other.

>>60640616
>communism was semi retarded
Is. Is, and not semi, retarded.

>>60640671
>>60640699
>NGC for ancients
That was my assumption and for world coins too. But lately it seems like the majority of graded coins I'm seeing listed on ma shops are pcgs. I'm starting to think that there's been a change of opinion.

>>60640671
NGC used to be the only option for that stuff. They still are the only option for a lot of coins.

but PCGS has always been preferred for things they actually grade.

>>60640713
What I meant was that Cuba never really went fully communist, they had a beautiful capitalism in their black market

>>60640699
>>60640720
>>60640747
Ive never sent in a coin to anyone for grading so I don’t have a dog in the fight, but I do like that since ~2008 NGC has taken pictures of every single coin they’ve graded, something nobody else can say. But PCGS does have the better reputation for American coins

I have 130 ounces of silver and 2.5 ounces of gold. How much more do I need to make it?

>>60641025
Just keep buying more silver consistently each month until the gold silver ratio is under 1:50, then slowly start dumping

>>60639135 (OP)
>gold $20 is worth 3400 = 170x
>silver $1 is worth 40 = 40x

Why is silver such shit? Is it cuz white vermin sell grandpa’s stash for coke, cheero puffs, and some weed?

>>60640892
Is that a minanon coin? never seen that one.

>>60639146
frightens the jew

Did you guys know there is a 2oz morgan/peace dollar? 150 Years of Dollars 1986–2025. Theres even a five coin set.

Who mints this? No info on the official gubmint website.

>>60641185
intaglio mint probably

>>60641155
>2024
so I missed that one. Rip

anyone ever bought a silver krugerrand? ive only ever seen gold onces

>>60641256
yeah, I prefer the wieners over krugraands :^)
it's all up to taste though, and it's all silver in the end

>>60641277
i buy cheapest over spot usually but i went to my LCS recently to show my family member and they decided to jew me by charging me $40 for a generic.

>>60641256
silver krugs are excellent

>>60641284
that's my only qualm with them. where I live the premium is the same as the maple leaf and britannias, and I like the design and feel of those more, so there's no reason to buy the krugs.
wieners are much cheaper and they look pretty similar so I usualyl get those instead

>>60640172
semi-related but I have 0444 WAGMI, do people still resale mintanon's coins? Saw some pretty dead listings on ebay.

>>60641256
Yeah I've got a couple tubes of them, nice coins

>>60641316
It's probably too late to sell for a profit. The old-timers (relative to pmg's life) have probably already acquired the meme coins they wanted, and the newbies don't have the feels of the old days when making memecoins was an adventure. The later rounds lack the sense of novelty of the originals. Given they were priced fairly high - say $60 - it'll be a while before even spot makes selling them a profitable venture.
There were a few speculators who bought bunches. I think the hope was 4chan and pmg would become some cultural icon that everyone would want to get in on. Kek...

>>60641256
>anyone ever bought a silver krugerrand?
Many of us have.

>>60641401
kind of glad that i didnt get a silver one now looking at it, i love them so much i want to get a real gold one when i save up enough money. i have no idea whats high and low for gold tho i only pay attention to silver. how are the platinumbros doing btw we are at 1440

>>60640555
You only owe taxes to the govt if it's not from the US mint

>>60641418
>how are the platinumbros doing btw we are at 1440
It's nice. I wish I had spent more time on the pricier metals than silver. The returns on Pt and Au have been very nice.

>>60641456
>You only owe taxes to the govt if it's not from the US mint
[citation needed]

its OVER

muh taxes is the new FUD that we need to argue about every thread
I remember the good ol' days where we argued every thread about muh silver glut

>>60641554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYbnB5toqRI

If I ever get rich with a Turkish business partner I will give him this. 11% premium is steep for stacking though

I need to get my cock sucked, but everytime I look up services I think it would cost more than 1 oz silver, even more than 2 with some, I instantly get turned off, I am willing to give a silver dime for a blowjob, anything above that is a scam

Are there any guides for what historical/world coins are most recognizable? I love them all but I don't want to have trouble offloading them

Danish anon here. I've been considering buying a little gold for some time now and finally looked into it. Apparently the difference in price between buying and selling gold bars and coins varies from about 6% for large bars/coins to fucking over 30% for small ones.
This means that if I buy 1g of gold the market price has to rise over 30% just to break even. All I've ever heard about gold is how great it is at preserving wealth. This seems like a retarded meme after finding out about this shit... Am I missing something here? Wtf is this shit?
I understand the dealers have to make a living but over 30% is just a grotesque rip off. You'd have to be mentally deficient to agree to that.

>>60640616
It is, but these coins were made before the Commies came to power.
The Communists were the ones who removed the Silver from the Cuban Peso.

>>60641656
physical stores are owned by literal jews who rip you off. use online stores everytime

>>60641656
Now look up your country's tax rules, and you'll realize it's the best investment you could make.
You have 42% tax on winnigns on stock and crypto, and 0% on gold bullion

>>60641660
The prices in quoting ARE from online stores...
>>60641661
What are you even talking about? Gains from gold are taxed like everything else in Denmark

>>60641675
okay then youre lying or retarded if youre saying you cant find gold for under 6% premium

>>60641642
>British Gold Sovereigns
>French/Swiss 20 Francs (any LMU really, but French and Swiss will be most recognizable)
>US pre-33 Gold
>Mexican Hidalgos/Centenarios
>Austrian Ducats (Koronas are also good, but less in demand)
This is just from a US perspective though, if you live in Europe this list will be different.
Since Foreign Gold is almost all .900 (Ducats and Sovs being higher purity), it should be relatively easy to unload compared to foreign Silver which comes in a variety of purities.
I suppose South African 1 and 2 Rand coins are probably pretty easy to unload as well since they're just miniature Krugs with the same weight and purity as Sovereigns, but i've never looked into them much.

>>60641680
I've spent all morning googling and cannot find gold at that price. If you're going to call me a liar how about you show me a Danish site that sells at the prices you claim?...

>>60641700
apmex doesnt ship to denmark?

>>60641675
>What are you even talking about? Gains from gold are taxed like everything else in Denmark
Read your rules more carefully
https://info.skat.dk/data.aspx?oid=2048523

>>60641656
Doesn't the Danish Mint sell Gold and Silver coins? Have you tried looking at their website?
Government websites can occasionally give you good deals if the people running it are lazy.

>>60641711
I'm truly at a loss here. Page doesn't even mention gold. I live here in Denmark bro. Our taxes on investment gains frequently surpass 50%. If you could sell gold tax free literally everyone would be doing it. The page you're quoting refers to items that have not been acquired as investment, like a guitar. Gold is not taxed in any special way here. Gains from selling gold are taxed like normal income.

>>60641766
Welp, I was sure there was a loophole you could use.
There's one here in Norway which gives you 0% tax that everyone uses

>>60641775
It's only possible if in the eyes of the law you didn't acquire it as a form of speculation. This is the same for bitcoins, and the courts literally never accept that crypto was acquired as non-spegulation. The only way you can get away with not being taxed on gold is if you have a collection of actual collectible gold coins. You know, the kind that has a gigantic premium... Because they're collectibles.

>>60641707
No clue. Apmex seems like an American company? Buying investment items from a foreign country could be a nightmare of regulation and what not, i suspect. I've only been looking at domestic companies. I would maybe consider a foreign dealer from another EU country.

>>60641817
Sound similar to what we have here.
You could buy regular bullion coin and argue that it was for collection and not speculation?
I mean there's no way the court would be able to read your mind as to what your intention was

>>60641850
Here are some dealers I have heard of in Europe. I have no experience with any of them. Good luck:
goldsilver.be/en
coininvest.com
gold.de
europeanmint.com
bullionbypost.com
celticgold.eu
silvergoldbull.com
chards.co.uk
oldsilver.ru
acheter-or-argent.fr
lpm.hk
hollandgold.nl
thesilvermountain.nl
bullionbypost.com
silvergoldbull.com
atkinsonsbullion.com

>>60641853
You could. The problem is that the courts literally always rule that you bought the gold/crypto as an investment. Everyone who has tried to argue this in court has lost. What you don't seem to get here is that in tax cases we have reverse burden of evidence. The authorities dont have to prove that you bought it as speculation, you have to prove that you didn't, and the courts have such extreme requirements for evidence that no citizens ever win these cases. All law firms basically advice that no one should attempt to argue this case in court because it's pointless. The tax exemption for non-speculation is basically on paper only. No one ever wins these cases.

>>60641656
>All I've ever heard about gold is how great it is at preserving wealth. This seems like a retarded meme after finding out about this shi

Makes sense when you realize you watched 10,000 commercials on yuutube saying that. Everyone in the pmg cult just repeats coin merchants talking points all day long

This is basic shit, the way to avoid in the United states is use etfs and pay zero tax, other countries have other loopholes

>Lmao, the government taxes silver and gold at a punitive rate since they are considered collectibles like beanie babies, so high you are guaranteed to lose if you hold long term.

>Pre-1965 silver coinage, which contains 90% silver and 10% copper, is subject to specific tax regulations. The IRS considers physical holdings in precious metals, including pre-1965 silver coins, as collectibles. When these coins are sold, the gains are subject to capital gains tax, which is up to 37%. This tax rate applies to the sale of precious metals, regardless of whether they are in the form of bullion coins, bullion bars, rare coinage, or ingots. The tax rate depends on your marginal tax rate.

Anybody to help me?
>>60640514
>>60640525
>>60640532
>>60640541

I bought $105 usdt and paid a fee, sent it to tradeogre for $12 by the time I bought anything I had $92 and I still have to pay .1 of the (((digital asset TM))) to send it off the exchange, muh metals premiums

>>60642631
what a fucking disgusting jewish scam. No wonder both CEXs and the government are hellbent on (((adoption))), it's basically what SWIFT propose since the 80s, but instead of 1% flat fee, you get jewed 12%, because uh... the future of finance, or something like that.
Shitcoins aren't a neutral sum game, they are a negative sum game because you always have to factor in (((transactions fees))), CEX fees, and taxes. Only winners are the jews parasiting the line (gubment and exchanges).

>>60642631
Dumb strawman argument

#1 you don't have enough to invest. Start a business save up $100,000 quit wasting your time here
#2 just use ETFs for garbage rocks or crypto and you won't pay hyuge premiums

>>60641656
If you're willing to put in some effort when buying and selling, you can do private sales, which usually just ignore premiums altogether. Good deal for buying and selling, but it definitely is a hassle. Best argument for buying physical is to be protected in case of hyperinflation, nationalization, fiat collapse, etc... along with potential for moonshot gains like with silver. If these things happen, premiums are irrelevant. So if you think none of that sounds likely to happen at all, you probably shouldn't buy any.

>>60641933
Here in communist Denmarkistan we have unrealized cap gains tax on etfs. There are no loop holes other than being rich enough to afford offshore banking services offered by fancy law firms.

Guten tag, mein negers. Is swissbullion.eu legit? I want to cash out some crypto gains into gold and have it shipped to me (Europe). I’d rather pay a premium to a gold shop than pay taxes, if you catch my drift.

>>60642824
>Best argument for buying physical is to be protected in case of hyperinflation,

Hyperinflation is terrible for physical because of the punitive taxes only levied on physical metal. Only broke newbs buy physical

Experts say never buy physical

>>60642829
Wow just looked at your rates, truly horrifying. Total tax burden is double the United states at almost 50%


Here its very easy to pay no income tax and no sales/vat tax, this example 0 income tax on $61,000

>>60642982
>Avoid physical assets
I bet IQDelete eats 6-11 servings of bread every day.

Are these the same experts that said the covid vaxx was safe and effective? These the same experts that said Iraq has weapons of mass destruction? These experts all seem to come from a specific tribe but people who are spiritually disconnected don't have intuition.

If I learned anything in life, its best to follow the experts who are blacklisted and destroyed and not ones who are allowed to speak publicly.

You all made me fomo and I had to buy that 500g Te bar from Europe so now I have that metal in my stack. If someone upsets me, ill have them hold it and I'll give them garlic breath.

>>60642982
>Hyperinflation is terrible for physical because of the punitive taxes only levied on physical metal.
What? Taxes are irrelevant in the hyperinflation scenario. Are you suggesting anyone would sell assets to aquire a hyperinflating dollar? Your master should take this talking point out of your prompt because it reveals you're using words you don't understand.

>Experts say never buy physical
They don't, but even if they did, experts are retarded. Did you get the vax too?

"experts" say

>>60643112
>Are you suggesting anyone would sell assets to aquire a hyperinflating dollar

Are you going to hold rocks until you die and take a 100% loss? Because that's the only alternative to an up to 50% tax interest a hyperinflation

its so over

>>60641512
kiplinger /taxes/how-collectibles-are-taxed

>What qualifies as a collectible?
>Metals and gems (any, but e.g., gold, silver, platinum, palladium)
>Certain precious metals and coins may be exempt if they meet specific criteria (limited exception)

Click the link in the article with text "definition of collectible" for this part, I couldn't post the link

>(3) Exception for certain coins and bullion

>For purposes of this subsection, the term "collectible" shall not include-

>(A) any coin which is-

>(i) a gold coin described in paragraph (7), (8), (9), or (10) of section 5112(a) of title 31, United States Code,

>(ii) a silver coin described in section 5112(e) of title 31, United States Code,

>(iii) a platinum coin described in section 5112(k) of title 31, United States Code, or

>(iv) a coin issued under the laws of any State, or

>(B) any gold, silver, platinum, or palladium bullion of a fineness equal to or exceeding the minimum fineness that a contract market (as described in section 5 of the Commodity Exchange Act, 7 U.S.C. 7) requires for metals which may be delivered in satisfaction of a regulated futures contract

That's all I've got... so it's possible that a coin of certain fineness may still be exempt, so maybe I was mistaken there. I need a lawyer anon to translate

Yes, why would you sell when you can leverage it as collateral? You dont need to sell any gold or silver to make it make money for you. There are also institutions thay pay you 2-4% gold or silver on your metal holdings that they loan others.

If you were unvaccinated you could comprehend this.

Never going to sell, will trade and leverage it just like people do with stocks and real-estate. Gold is a tier 1 asset thanks to Basel regulations and if that's what the central banks use, then so will I
Get rich buy doing what the ultra rich do, and not what they say.

>>60643266
This is title 31 section 5112. It basically describes the AGEs and ASEs

uscode house gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:31%20section:5112%20edition:prelim)%20OR%20(granuleid:USC-prelim-title31-section5112)&f=treesort&num=0&edition=prelim

>>60643270
>loan your metals out
But then I don't own them anymore.

Zero shares available to short the SLV etf. I don't think I've ever seen this before.


When you see SLV borrow availability collapse to zero while the borrow rate rips (we’ve watched it jump from 0.68% last week to 1.82% today), it’s telling you shorts are scrambling. They’re facing rising margin requirements as price holds near highs and there’s simply no easy paper left to grab. Combine that with a near‑record net short on COMEX and it paints a very clear picture: The pressure is building in the release valve of the global system – silver. All of this is unfolding while the base layer (sovereign debt) itself wobbles — Japan’s 30‑year ripping toward record highs, the U.S. 30‑year back over 5%, and deep negative swap spreads showing stress in collateral plumbing.

This isn’t noise. It’s the foundation of a short squeeze forming in real time.

>>60642436
bro it's crazy to evaluate tro internet... I would just go to credible pawn shop and ask for eval (it's free)
Looks good to me, but it's so worn so hard to tell
Most weird part is (14g instead of 16.5/17g), no way shaving will cut 2g

I sold 100 oz of silver I inherited from my uncle in a pawn shop for $1500. I know you can never get spot price when selling but could I have gotten a better deal at a coin or bullion store, or online?

It was a mix of mostly american 1 oz coins, some english/south african 1 oz coins, a couple of english 10 oz coins and some bullions.

Here's the tax consequences of hyperinflation run thru a tax program

Investment of 10,000 sell it for 10,000,000 you owe 3.2 million tax even though you gained nothing, the $ went down, you lost 32% plus up to 13% in state taxes, a total loss of 45%

Hyperinflation is terrible for pm holders

>>60643297
Lmao, a shortage of paper metal, the opposite of what pmg claimed for the last ten years

>>60643219
>a hyperinflation
Pls be doing the needfull, saar, and do not be doing the redeeming of the gold and silver saar. Very much no good investment! Redeem for my bitcoins only saar, very good job with your money saar, you will not be regretting!

>>60643412
>I know you can never get spot price when selling but could I have gotten a better deal at a coin or
Uhh, wrong. You fucked up.
>>60643414
>Hyperinflation is terrible for pm holders
Also wrong. Picrel.

>>60643297
>mfw it's all over

In just 3.5 months, the amount of physical platinum backing all the NYMEX futures contracts (registered category) has dropped or been delivered out of vaults by 64% since April 1 , 2025.

Total inventories have dropped by 56% over the same time frame.

>at spot deal
>not some super low max
apmex right now

>mfw my credit card company just approved a credit line increase for slurping
>mfw I'm doing a Saylor-style speculative attack on PMs

>>60643634
>Credit maxing silver at $38.
Either a brilliant, well times power-play. Or you get destroyed by interest and spend the next year paying off a credit card.
I did just that when GME spiked to $80 and I thought some of my calls we 100% going to get assigned. I maxed out my CC on silver and then the price fell down to $30 by that Friday and I had $15,000 to pay down LOL.

>>60643693
They can keep their jungle fed notes. I'm king.

Is the gold bull run finally over? Thought for sure it would hit $4k by late fall/winter.

>>60643741
Usual shake out in eastern time zone. Get behind me Satan

>>60643876
why can't the 1 oz just be the same premium as the others :(

>>60643887
Absolutely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oddiRhqK6io

>>60643903
Even if it was just the same as the new bear it wouldn't be nearly as bad. Over 4k is too much.

>>60643919
Here it's estimated like this atm but if back in stock it'll likely be a lot more suddenly. Not sure though.

u guys think the bottom before next high is in? i think its dropping into 36,xx range before it will rise again

>>60644052

Symbol?

>>60644052
i wouldn't bet on any dumps to 36.xx imo. market is starting to realize silver is undervalued. lately it hasn't been dumping much even when gold has dumped. the market is cautious that gold maybe went up too much recently, but silver definitely hasn't.

What does pmg think of Pandas. 30g based or gay?

>>60644253
Theyre fun

sure is a lot of 1pbtid FUD faggots all of a sudden

>>60643266
>I need a lawyer anon to translate
Thank you for the post though. It's always helpful to see (references to) the actual texts. Yes, it's very hard to wade through the legalese and like you, I resort to trying my best.

>>60644295
Hello...

>>60644253
Nice designs, they're usually very cute.
30g is a cheat. It's similar to clipping or shaving coins, though it's advertised as short. You don't get what you pay for.
But sometimes ya just gotta.

>>60644253
im sure they are quite a bit heavier than 30 grams

>>60644421
It says 30g right on the coin bruh

>>60643412
I jumped in front of a school bus. Would it have been better for me to jump in front of a transit bus? Or maybe a train?

>>60644253
It's funny the 8 gram is the one that's slightly over a 1/4. Those little buggers:P

I had a nightmare last night where my home got raided and they seized my prized 10oz silver bar and I was watching from a cell helplessly as they scanned it and discovered it was fake and they laughed at me

Gold,,,,flat
Silver,,,,,flat
IqELiTE favorite platinum miner SBSW,,,,,, up 1% 167% ytd
ETherEUM,,,, up 3%,,,,,36% in one month


Life is great!!

>>60644253
Some of them are alright. I think pandas are incredibly dumb animals though.

A few weeks ago I bought picrel to use for palmar cooling after my HIIT workouts. I keep them in the refrigerator and palm them until they reach body temperature. They suck the heat right out of me. Thanks to /pmg/ for the idea.

>>60644421
>>60644436
They used to be a full ozt but switched in 2016.

>>60643297
>This isn’t noise. It’s the foundation of a short squeeze forming in real time.
kys botnigger

>>60643919
I like those Spanish coins a lot except for the fact that they say euro, are small obscure denominations and have a comma. What is the purpose of it saying 1,5 euro it just looks silly

>>60644464
I met a Chinese girl once who hated pandas. She said they are dirty and they stink. She also hated penguins. I thought maybe I detected a pattern and asked her how she felt about orcas. But she liked orcas. So my theory was disproven. My next question was going to be about interracial sex, but that was not necessary.

>>60644479
amen fren

Coin merchant explainer on how pmg baggies get screwed in the US and graped in the UK on premiums and discounts

Lmao

Lmao they literally ran out of paper silver,,,,,its honestly, existing SLV holders gonna be rich,,,,,pmg baggies devastated

>>60644465
can you hold them without tanking the value?

>>60644491
Keep in mind that dealers are a business. They pay rent for the building, have payrolls for employees (maybe), have to make a living themselves, pay theft insurance, sales taxes, and much more I'm sure... they're not PM repositories for your convenience and budget.
If you want silver at spot, go buy from COMEX.
Or become a dealer yourself.

>>60644544
Sure! Even if they tarnish, it's easy to restore with the baking soda/aluminum foil method

>>60644549
But when I go to a restaurant and order a steak, I want it at Chicago Commodity Exchange beef prices! What a rip off! I'll stick with constantly eroding banker's fiat cum rags.

i feel like a retard shorting silver this late. will probably expire worthless soon but had to try :D

>>60644549
Bob bob bob we werent talkihg about premiums. The guy, also Bob, runs a reputable pm metal depository so he's in the business. His question is how can silver be money if coin merchants will only buy at 10% less than spot?

I've been making this point as well that the reason gold and silver are NEVER used as money is the spread. No one wants to lose 10% or in the case of goybucks 70% on every transaction.

>>60644334
hello

>>60644797
>His question is how can silver be money if coin merchants will only buy at 10% less than spot?
How can banks and currency exchanges charge a fee for exchanging monies for tourists?

>>60640076
Woah woah woah
They're changing the composition?

>>60644926
If you ever traveled Bob and exchanged currency you would know the $ usually has the lowest spread, Argentina peso had a spread of 50% in the countries next door. Maybe your argument is that gold and silver are shitty currencies, but there is no country using them where the spread is zero. Gold and silver are more akin to recycled newspaper and cardboard than money

Ooooh
I have a silver Id
I am the chosen one
And I didn't even graduate from high school

>>60644491
small amounts are annoying to work with
sell 50 lbs of silver - you'll find a buyer at spot price

>>60645059
You sound like this is going to change something in your life.
https://www.chards.co.uk/guides/2026-gold-sovereign-a-historical-return-yellow-gold/1278

>>60645104
I have a few of the rose double sovs. I quit buying them because I might be gay but I'm not a faggot

>>60644465
Put them under your armpits and on your groin and you’ll cool down even quicker

holy shit, when did tubes hit 1k?
I have been out of the loop since last year

silver is fkin surging again!

It is immoral to hoard more rocks than you need. Take a vow of poverty and surrender your burdens to the church.

>>60645128
The tax man wants his share and will send armed men to get it

>>60645438
>more rocks than you need
See I have an easy equation for the amount of ounces I need. It's 'N+1' where N is the current amount of silver I own.

>>60645438
Shalom

>>60645448
>if a profit is realized
sorry dude, i actually lost money on these. better luck next time.

>>60645448
America was founded on shooting people because we didn't want to pay taxes.
Get 1776'd fedtard

>>60645448
Too bad nothing is registered like every other financial instrument like equities and crypto.

>>60645472
That's great! Please present the receipts so the IRS can verify your claim.

>>60645492
Daddy trump gutted them. Fuck the IRS

>>60645492
In upstate NY a man shot an IRS agent with an M1 rifle. The only thing wrong with this is that the IRS didn't send 7 more agents, as the M1 holds 8 rounds.

>>60645448
>>60645492
All IRS taxes are voluntary if you’re not a federal employee, kike

>>60645492
>>60645489
If no receipt your cost basis is zero, so more tax due.....lmao and they might say you got them from self employment and charge you FICA, both employee and employers share plus throw you in prison. Good luck!

>>60645525
Instead of getting upset friend structure your life so you don't owe taxes, it's not hard

>>60645534
I'm not worried about it, pinkie

Where we started
>nobody in pmg ever makes a profit
>rocks are worthless

Where we are
>you know those gains you're now getting, they will be taxed
>these rocks are so worthless you should invest money into companies that dig them out of the ground

kektop

>>60645551
There will always be fud. If I have learned anything, the fud can never run out

>>60645551
kek
next phase
>yall are depressed Chuds, you wont know what to do with all this money!
>raiders will come after you because you own worthless rocks!

>>60645551
Lmao, this clown doesn't realize you get taxed on inflationary gains. It's almost sad how little pmg baggies know

>>60645128
Kek....
Yeah, I prefer the gold color too. Copper worked only because it was the only color available for some desired coins.

>>60645448
cool democracy there bro

MM has a tuba mercs at spot right now
https://monumentmetals.com/tube-of-90-silver-mercury-dimes-5-face-value-1.html

>>60645746
>selling your precious metals
yikes

>>60645746
What does democracy have to do with it?

>>60645811
that your democratically elected government would use violence against you

Should I buy gold mining stocks? If so, which ones? Is GDX good enough?

>>60645821
No, but if you do anyway, just buy GDX because you obviously want to be told what to do.

>>60645615
Gold sales under a kilo or 25ozs of gold eagles aren't reported

>>60645128

^^^ The most valuable stack on biz

>>60643741
I saw an article recently that Goldman is re-affirming their $4000 piece target for gold mid 2026 I think it was. In any case, gold is definitely going higher. Central banks, especially the Chinese are still buying like crazy.

>>60644295
shlomo getting real nervous

>>60645964
Nervous you will stop buying from him

>>60645059
So I've heard from the internet people yesterday. Apparently the royal mint announced that they're stopping the rose color and going back to the gold color ie with more silver than copper:)

Celebrating my massive gains on SBSW, thanks IQelite, gold miners and ethereum with a tbone steak and a fondle of my favorite exotic gold piece

And remember fellow anons. Ignore the rage bait resident retard every single time. It’s as simple as this.

>>60645645
Absolutely.

>>60645492
>present the receipts
let me print out the totally legitimate document for you, the company went out of business years ago, in a foreign country.

>>60646106
why do you keep doing this?

I got rich buying platinum

>>60645448
AGEs are non taxed as well as ASEs, possibly 999 fine anything

>>60646372
Ignorance of the law is no excuse

>>60646173
haha based

Over the next weeks while IQ FUDs about taxes, we will all become experts in tax law to post proof of him being wrong and he'll have to find a new ragebait for us

>>60646173
Did this iqigger seriously do that and buy real aliexpress gold later? Holy hell.

>>60646173
It has to be genuine mental illness.

>>60646590
Lmao y'all still claiming gold isn't taxable, there's no glut of silver, it's smart to pay premiums, stocks aren't real, etc etc. you seem to be incapable of learning

>>60645448
Who is selling their gold?
Also, value resets to current value if you leave it to you're descendants when they inherit it. So all the gains tax you never realized goes away.

>>60645645
I never bothered with maples because I don't want to pay several hundreds or thousands for a leaf but that color of it's beautiful

>>60646640
Why would we learn to be wrong from a penniless shitskin?

>>60646534
If you look at my other responses in this thread they post the law you mosquito brained fuckwit

>>60646881
So apmex is wrong here?>>60645448 lmao you don't quote any law that says gold is not taxed

I dunno goys this goy's making a lot of sense.

>>60646950
Before you invest you should understand the tax implications. Pmg is so dumb they didn't know that, inject your low IQ racism and you are doomed to be exploited by the people you hate

>>60647030
Very nice:) I'd really to have 1 but maybe a smaller version next year:D

IQELITE recommended, platinum and gold miner SBSW for 2025

It's up 171%? How y'all doing? Hmmmmm?

>>60647125
And it's in a Roth IRA, so 0 taxes! Anyone wanna calculate the 19 month return on a 148% gain compounded by 172%?

>>60645956
Never heed anything they and jpm freely tell the public

>>60647145
LMAO YOU HAVE BEEN BRAGGING ABOUT FUCKING RETIREMENT ACCOUNT POSITIONS?!!!!!

So, will we ever make it /PMG/ bros? Crypto anons keep making profit meanwhile we get like 30 cent increases.

>>60647266
I can technically pay off my mortgage balance now

>>60639146
Measures value

They ask if you're making it by putting a little money outside the banking system into metals as a form of long-term savings which hedge against inflation in a system they control after murdering 60 million Christians during the Holodomor, what they did to the German people, infiltrating the US system and now genociding Palestinians.
He put them.into work camps and was clearly way to lenient.
So yes haha gold is nice.
Also I hope the world wakes up and we rid ourselves of you demonic vermin soon:)

Vagina

>>60647104
Thinking of buying a 1/4oz leaf. I probably should've bought a 1oz leaf instead of a few other smaller coins but I like buying things I want even if it costs a bit more. Long term it wont matter anyway though it would be nice to have at least one bigger coin

>>60647436
It looks like a really nice 1oz coin to have. Nice and chunky.

/pmg/, I just realized that for the first time ever, the majority of my assets are Precious Metals.
Should I scale back my PM purchases to avoid putting all my eggs in one basket or just continue at my current pace of just buying as many coins as I want?

>>60641886
>The problem is
Asking permission instead of accepting forgiveness. Yolo

>>60642436
>Anybody to help me?
It's definitely a forgery, it should be destroyed, I'd be glad to dispose of it for you, would you like my p.o.box?

So is silver in a bull run or what?

>>60643297
If the Fed doesn't smash rates soon, then kaboom...

>>60647367
>Vagina jewfree
Was her name, and she slept with a king

>>60646807
I like variety, and I like a lot of what Canada puts out.

I like Lynette but this seems like a grift. I'm not sure how digital currency could be used as CBDC? They aren't necessarily the same thing, unless the US stablecoin is designed to be centralized and regulated by the Fed. Can anyone explain?

>>60648002
Is this the full collection of the klondike gold rush series?
I can't afford a 2025 coin if they put one out lol

>>60641694
>>French/Swiss 20 Francs (any LMU really, but French and Swiss will be most recognizable)
these are the only gold coins anyone should ever buy IMO.

>>60648013
It is, unless there's a fifth. But I'm trusting the bordergold guy who said "From Dore to Refined Gold" was to be the last of the series.

>>60648012
>I'm not sure how digital currency could be used as CBDC? They aren't necessarily the same thing
It's a fine line between private ownership and state ownership. Nothing can stop the seizure of a registered company in a state jurisdiction because all legal companies get permission from the state to operate. You would have to have your own allodial title jurisdiction to prevent seizure (which central banks like the BIS do), but even that is dependent on other jurisdictions refusing to invade and annex your base of operations. That's what the expelling of the Rhodesian farmers were about. 50% of the land was owned by whites, who were only a fraction of the entire population owned Allodial titles. It's why the white farmers won't go back because the Zimbabwe jurisdiction doesn't recognize their allodial titles, and going back means the white farmers have consented to this seizure.

>>60648002
>five nines

I like what I see.

Platinum 1500 by EOY

https://www.jmac-customs.com/kalash-stash-krink-money-clip/
If it wasn't for the retarded high premium I'd be ordering one...

Geez, Scottsdale's slow. I ordered late Friday, paid by ACH. My bank says payment was taken Tuesday, and Scottsdale still hasn't acknowledged receipt.
inb4 rugpull: yeah, yeah.

>>60648078
Hm. Do you mean to say that the Fed would be the ones to confiscate? They already hijack the economy with money printing so I guess it's not unrealistic that they could seize the issuance of the stablecoin in a severe crash or something. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.

>>60648355
>Scottsdale's slow
Yeah they are :/

>>60648355
They took about 3 weeks to ship my order a few months ago, but some of their stuff is art.

>>60648442
Nice shot!

1250oz Ag

Buying silver makes the coin merchant rich,,,,,lmao, that's why you see ads everywhere and pmg spreading the FUD

Wowie! Look at them pre market #s

Silver,,,,,,flat
Gold,,,,,flat
Platinum.....flat
Bitcoin,,,,,,, up 2%
SBSW, pmg,s favorite platinum group miner thank you IQELITE! ,,,,,,up 3%
Ethereum,,,,,,,,,,up another 8%

Today is a fabulous day!!!

New thread:
>>60648587
>>60648587
>>60648587

>>60648577
Eth has been crabbing for years

>>60648078
>It's a fine line between private ownership and state ownership. Nothing can stop the seizure of a registered company in a state jurisdiction because
The sheeple would allow it to occur.
>>60648398
>Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.
Nah, they understand, it's all fictitious except the metal.
The metal is what builds the cell to restrain those who can not.
Ironically in this realm "ownership" by persons other than Chist is the fiction. Bad stewards are the tares, and good ones are the wheat. And the reapers are coming.

>>60639344
>Ethereum up 11%
Zoom out. Enjoy breaking even, though!

>>60648577
>Ethereum,,,,,,,,,,up another 8%
Lol ETH still hasn't breached its ATH. Zoom out on your chart, you might break even this week though.