I am accountant and every one tells me my profession will shrink at best or be replaced by ai completely.
What does /biz/ think?

>>60739599 (OP)
depends where you work I guess.
if you work for some megacorpo its entirely in the real of whats possible that you will get replaced with AI sooner than later.
if you work for a small place then its unlikely that you will be replaced in the next 10 - 15 years or so.
then again who knows? technology can always make very sudden surprising leaps forward so its overall hard to tell when you are going to be obsolete but someday that day will arrive.

>>60739643
Think about how we went from those ugly ai pics to what we have today.

No. You'll basically have "spell check" for accounting. Someone has to go over everything because only a retard trusts a computer.

An accountant fucked OPs wife

AI will increase the number of people using accountancy services 5x which will create many lower paid 'quality control' positions. What the final balance will be is hard to say

Holy shit just stop replying you accountants are so autistic you fall for the most surface level trolling

You will definitely get replaced by Ai because its not mentally ill like you

>>60739661
—>>60739669

>>60739691
Ur on /biz/ saar

>>60739691
Our whole identity is “I am an accountant.” Now that the whole profession is going into the shitter thanks to AI, we don’t know who we are anymore and what to do. I went to school for this and got my cpa and all that jazz.

>>60739658
exactly, its kinda unpredictable how slow or fast the mass adoption of AI will be as it depends on how fast they can figure out the tech.
>>60739661
the point is overall less people are needed. dont need a team of 10 people to do that task anymore. so you just fire 8 of them and the other 2 use AI to do the job of 30+ people.
these 2 remaining will of course earn less than one guy of the original 10.
>>60739669
also this, these will be shitjobs tho

>>60739750
better start investing into the tech that replaces you: GPUs, AI and crypto.

>>60739661
>only a retard trusts a computer
This is especially true as everything continues to break and degrade in quality over time.

>>60739776
Cope. Only a retard trusts a person.

>>60739661
this. someone has to be accountable for it. same reason they have 2 people count the cash in retail and not just some robot. the robot cannot be penalized if it's wrong, and practically every machine can go wrong eventually

>>60740136
Okay. so 9/10 accountants get fired and 1 will proof check

>>60739599 (OP)
most of future accounting will be done by an offshore indian chucking the data into 3 different accounting trained AIs
then it will get sent to a singular onshore accountant who will do some quick checks to make sure its good enough then gives it a stamp of approval, all done in like 40 minutes

>>60739599 (OP)
it wont
im a staff accountant
ai cant even read bank memos right, bank memos are like machine language half the time, full of literal gibberish, garbage and codes that only the banks algorithms give a shit about, it cant sort anything correctly if you fed it a bank feed
also the tax lobby will refuse to make taxes easier as long as it lives

>>60740280
Youre wrong and coping. Ai is in its infancy.

>>60739760
>crypto
It’s not 2017 anymore, grandpa. Nobody is pretending this shit will replace anything anymore.

>>60740163
you can't effectively blame one guy who manages 10 ai's when one glitches. accounting is one of the things that needs accountability. ai will take it over later than people expect.

>>60740388
Okay, then 2 people with multiple AIs proof checking and outsourced to different companies.

Regulators need someone to point to for blame and explain the thought process through something like GAP. Highly regulated shit will have safety longer but who knows in 10 years

>>60740306
never heard of blockchains and tokenization?

>>60740407
>"someone has to go over everything because trusting a computer is retarded"
>I agree
>"UH WELL ACKTUALLY THERES GONNA BE 2 PEOPLE DOING IT, ACCOUNTING IS DEAD"

what are you even arguing? I said in my post ai will take over accounting in the far future but not now and not with the current models. I don't think you understand how retarded accounting can be. we are decades away from it all being automated.

>>60740305
ai cannot think for its self, accounting is based on a lot of human interpretation of what the client wants, and i can assure you, business owners are fucking stupid, retarded and they dont have time to do their own accounting
the smartest thing business owners do is pay others to do shit for them because if they did it all themselves theyd kill themselves or fail

So many accountants coping itt

>>60739820
a person made that AI, maybe even multiple

To expand what I said >>60739669
Accountant services will become magnitudes more affordable to people, expanding the market. you could see more or the same amount of accountant jobs in long-term just because of this expansion, but they would be like I said different lower paid jobs. Secondly, it is likely that Very Important People will want to use high quality human accountants, or AI work that is overseen heavily by humans at least, while the riff riff will use AI slop minimal human accounting and take their chances with the risks. Some configuration of this could exist in many sectors

Braindead executives are at a phase of overestimating the impact of AI like they did with the metaverse and NFTs a while back. When you see "people are being replaced by AI!" in the news nowadays it just means they fired a bunch of people and the work is just being done by less people/cheap contractors now but also AI is being shoehorned into their projects.

AI is admittedly more promising as a technology than NFTs and the metaverse, but the whole thing is in a bubble right now so its not easy to estimate its true long-term impact.

>>60740530
>>AI is admittedly more promising as a technology than NFTs and the metaverse, but the whole thing is in a bubble right now so its not easy to estimate its true long-term impact
its also not even true intelligence, it's a machine that sucks its own dick and needs a database (ie: the internet) to even function

I am bus driver and every one tells me my profession will shrink at best or be replaced by ai/automation completely.
What does /biz/ think?

>>60740541
Soon.

>>60739599 (OP)
>>60739643
>>60740431
AI can’t count, tell it to follow the Corporate S IRS code and it automatically assumes bad credit because it has no understanding of Corporate S. It will never replace us.

>>60740554
it literally takes week for take software companies to decipher the new tax laws, ai has no fundamental understanding of how fucking retarded we've made business and tax law

>>60740568
ai will clean up tax law

>>60740578
no it wont it doesnt even understand how taxes work

>>60740599
I will.

>>60739599 (OP)
The AI won't do the 'creative' side of accounting as it won't understand the laws, for AI to even attempt it you would have to specify it to look for and abuse loop holes and better for the execs to pin that on the human payroll than blame it on a system.

>>60739599 (OP)
accounting was a woman's job to begin with but you have a mental illness for spamming this shit

>>60740631
Okay, brokie.

hi mentally ill anon. im the guy who bills at $300/hr for contracted accounting work. in the time you spammed this gay retarded nonsense i just secured another 20 hour a month contract. that's $6k a month into my business checking account each month.

anyways, hows being a seething poor faggot retard who masturbates to child pornography going?

>>60740530
It’s still early, it’s 2025 but things aren’t going to really get going until early-mid 2030s. Honestly humans might be completely fucked but who knows at this point.

>>60739599 (OP)
Almost impossible in Czechia. Knowledge and creative use of law loopholes and connections/good relationships with different government offices is not replaceable by some faggy LLM with OCR API.

>>60742089
I make $100 per hour every hour, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a week. If I spend one hour on /biz/, I make $100 dollars.

>>60742151
i thought you said it was $200 an hour? did the fair market value of your sissy hypno vids go down?

>>60742089
That sucks, bro. You work for money? I literally make $100 per hour, 24/7/365 regardless of what I am doing.
No wonder you get shit on lol.

>>60742159
I just say $100, $200 is unbelievable and I will just get
>stop making stuff up
For you, I will say $200. If you make $300 per hour at work, you should know $200+ per hour doing nothing isnt that much.
Enjoy work lol.

>>60742103
Sure man. 90% of people on earth dont even make more than 100k a year. Stfu with your muh connections.

>>60742089
Why do you keep talking about your job? I make more than you doing nothing. lol. Enjoy getting replaced by ai. lel

>>60742165
>>60742176
>>60742180
>>60742281
take your meds or the judge is going to force a long-acting anti psychotic injection.

>>60740530
>When you see "people are being replaced by AI!" in the news nowadays it just means they fired a bunch of people and the work is just being done by less people/cheap contractors now but also AI is being shoehorned into their projects.
This is exactly what my company that laid me and ~1300 other people off is doing. AI ain't doing shit for them. they're just managing their decline by reducing their labor costs and enshittifying the product.

expect no growth from them.

>>60739599 (OP)

>What does /biz/ think?

Who cares what /biz/ thinks, this place is a retarded shithole.

>>60742289
Why would I be psychotic? I am not the one that works for an hourly wage about to be replaced by ai.
>>60742315
So ai is part of it though.

>>60742315
AI is definitely doing something for them, bro. Just not 100% of a worker. Maybe every 5 ai, or whatever you call it, can replace 2 out of 10 on a team.

>>60742315
If ai can “only” replace 20-40% of white collar, that is already crazy.
The ones left with a job will somehow still get more work piled on them. This messes up the blue collar markst too.

>>60739599 (OP)
you'll get replaced by je*ts first

>>60739599 (OP)
i already use AI to do my taxes, sucks to be you, lol

>>60742537
How exactly did AI do your taxes?

>>60742165
>I literally make $100 per hour, 24/7/365 regardless of what I am doing.

How do I sign up for this

>>60742592
Ask the accountie

>>60739599 (OP)
think of it like this, if ai can increase productivity enough that only about 10-20% of current jobs an be automate away, how bad will that make the labor conditions and pay checks of the remaining 80-90% of accountants
but dont worry this is limited to accounting its hitting every white collar profession everywhere all at once, this is unprecedented in any economy ever in history
in the past when some disruption happened you could always reskill or something, not now, there will be a massive glut of knowledge workers all hitting the unemployment line at about the same 5 year timeframe
the effect this will have on the labor conditions of the cagie are going to be a pure hellscape

neets are laughing their asses off btw at least they dont have student loans hanging over them lol

>>60740530
nobody with a functioning brain ever thought the meta verse would amount to anything
this was meta itself failing at it so no competitor might try and innovate a way around meta, but nobody thought the future economy would be a wii universe tier graphics bullshit that nickle and dimes you at every turn

>>60743129
First part of your post is what I keep saying. Okay, lets say “only” 30% of the entire white collar is affected, that is a lot. This affects every job market because this 30% will flood into blue collar and gig jobs. And future workers like students will either flood into blue collar or into a small white collar market. The remaining 70% of white collar will get less pay due to high pool of job seekers.

Accountant here.
I have about 6 female bosses
Doing month end right now
Want to kms
Pls free me AI

>>60743129
>neets are laughing their asses off btw at least they dont have student loans hanging over them lol
what happens when mom and her boyfriend both lose their job? what happens when your $900/month SSI disability gibs get cut due to austerity measures when wagie mass unemployment yields massive drops in tax revenue?

>>60743193
>this 30% will flood into blue collar
lol, lmao
the idea that blue collar work is so easy anyone can roll into it is another delusion that will be hard to bear in reality
no blue collar work isnt easy, do you really think the soïboï caste that constitutes the majority of modern day degree holders can just start a job as a roughneck or as an electrician
i meant it when i said hellscape for the knowledge worker caste, anyone with any foresight already propositioned themselves

>>60743212
>when your $900/month
your lol, i aint speaking for myself here
but to answer your question doesnt matter they will greatly expand social services to avoid social unrest, tax revenues are irrelevant
just look to the past 50 years of social services existing it only ever grows deficit be damned

>>60743246
>they will greatly expand social services to avoid social unrest, tax revenues are irrelevant
holy shit you neettards are dumber than a day old nigger

>>60742612
>Ask the accountie

What?

>>60739599 (OP)
WOW THIS IS REALLY COOL OP

WE NEED 50 THREADS OF THIS SAME TOPIC DAILY

ASAP

>>60739669
This. It's hard to hold a computer accountable (ha) for a fuckup. A human on the other hand is much easier to put the blame on. You're a liability asset to protect AI

>>60743261
look to every western country for the last 50 years
there is already a track record of ever expanding social services despite growing deficits
this will never reverse, but keep coping and think posting pepes constitutes an argument

>>60743417
zognald literally just slashed medicaid funding by implementing unrealistic work requirements.

>>60743423
keep following the political talking points of the day to keep you distracted
social spending only goes up, always has

>>60743598
are you an actual fucking retard?
>this decrease isn't actually a decrease... because it was actually a lower number before!

>>60743605
am i talking to a complete braindead moron, point out where in the graph there is an actual decline rather than a smaller rate of increase
also medicaid is the only gibs the government gives

sometimes i really forget i am on a place where people will reeeee out at actual data if it contradicts their personal biases

>>60739599 (OP)
Shrink? yes.
But remember that CPAs are licensed, and computer software cannot be in the same way and that's not changing. You need SOMEONE's credibility on the line here.

>>60740280
Just imagine AI generated tax code that can only be read by other AI. It will happen.

>>60742089
I think I'm going to ask for an edge. Of the big 4. Deloitte, KPMG , Price Waterhouse Cooper, Ernie and Young, which do you think is LEAST able to adapt to new tech, has the biggest retards and deserves to be shat on?

Or whatver big incompetents in the industry you think are fuckheads. Tell me about them.

>>60739599 (OP)
>I am accountant and every one tells me my profession will shrink at best or be replaced by ai completely.

start learning about smart contracts anon. That's automation on steroids... that AI will use to manage and report budgets and expenses.

>>60742468
>So ai is part of it though.
>>60742481
>AI is definitely doing something for them, bro. Just not 100% of a worker. Maybe every 5 ai, or whatever you call it, can replace 2 out of 10 on a team.
>>60742504
>f ai can “only” replace 20-40% of white collar, that is already crazy.
y'all don't get it

zero significant revenue from an AI product.
Engineers were just about to start AI tool training, aside from self-adopters -> very little result

they're mainly just reducing headcount, doing more with less, hiring indians, mexicans, brazilians, etc. That's not AI lol. That's pretending you're AI-powered to investors while gutting your R&D

>>60739599 (OP)
One third or more of you (I assume you have an IQ of ~105) will be replaced by a different class of profession which will be ~120 IQs who are quite shite at Excel wizardry but they know how to corral a hundred 100 AI instances that perform a lot of your current work. Note the AI instances aren't necessarily purely LLMs, but more hybrid models that don't struggle to delegate math to math apps.
I'm really sorry I paint a bleak pic. The upside is that it'll take some years and it will not be total.

>>60739752
>these 2 remaining will of course earn less than one guy of the original 10.
You are such an actual dumb fuck, holy shit.
Sure, the local-Palantir type engineer will earn less than a Excel monkey, sure.
I guess all the wealth generated (which is at least at parity with the current regime) will flow entirely into gigayachts by trillionaires. Sure.