Thread 60746498

small biz owners when they were employees
>HOLY SHIT THIS SUCKS I DO EVERYTHING AND I'M SO SMART!!!
>WHY DO THEY PAY ME SHIT!!!
>THIS IS SLAVERY FUCK THIS!!!
small biz owners when they're managing their wagies
>i don't understand, why are you threatening to quit?
>i gave you a 2.7% raise and inflation is only 2.4% so that's pretty good.
>like i said, you'll get a promotion and another 5% raise if you can learn how to do literally everything.
>your pay is competitive, i can't give you any more money without additional responsibilities.
>your health insurance is $800/month but that is also competitive, things are expensive.
>you're quitting? you NEED to give me 2 weeks notice.

>>60746498 (OP)
This is hilarious and 100% true.

>>60746498 (OP)
>people are generally selfish hypocrites
didn’t need a thread to tell me this

>>60746503
Not for me. I give extra perks and listen to the needs of people who are valuable to me. Because they're valuable to me. Notice how I used the word people. Of course, I'm also batshit crazy.

>>60746498 (OP)
I'm self employed (it's just me) and I need to unionize against myself.

>>60746498 (OP)
tale of two jews. it's hilarious how we all commit the same sins endlessly not recognizing the rat race consumes us all.

>>60746530
if not cap, you're better than most to recognize honesty and taking action matter. hopefully you stay in business longer than your competition.

>>60746540
small biz owners when they were employees
>THIS IS TORTURE I ONLY GET 10 DAYS OFF A YEAR!!!!!
small biz owners when they're managing their wagies
>takes 6 weeks vacation as biz owner
>took 3 phone calls in those 6 weeks
>convinces himself he worked 16 hours a day for all 6 weeks
>gives wagies 10 days PTO a year accrued at 0.83 days/month, blackout dates from january to november

>>60746563
I honestly don't know why wagies tolerate it. I'd literally rather be homeless living in some constructed tin hut than deal with such a humiliation ritual.

>>60746498 (OP)
My favourite is the dudes that are like
>look how free and independent I am, I can work whenever I want
>actually works 10 hours 6 days a week and takes calls on sundays
> but I earn 10k every month because I am an ""entrepreneur" unlike you wageslave
>treats revenue as pure profit and actually makes 15$ an hour after expenses and taxes

>>60746535
small biz owners when they were employees
>WE GOT A $500 BONUS WHILE SHEKELBERG GOT $5 MILLION IN CASH AND STOCK!!!!
>FUCK THIS!!!!
small biz owners when they're managing their wagies
>takes a $275k cash distribution
>throws a pizza party (limit one topping) for wagies
>$50 amazon gc retention bonus for the highest performing wagie (taxed as an employee benefit)

>>60746498 (OP)
>>60746563
>>60746613
can confirm, apart from the delusion

>>60746632
small biz owners when they were employees
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN'T GIVE ME THIS DAY OFF!!!!
>I ASKED YOU 5 DAYS IN ADVANCE!!!!
>THIS IS A LOAD OF SHIT!!!!!
small biz owners when they're managing their wagies
>we've been over this before, you need to request PTO at least 3 weeks in advance with approval in triplicate from me, your direct manager, and god.
>i'm sorry but i can't possibly approve this request, i need you here working.
>btw i need you to work all weekend too.
>but don't worry, it's (legally required to be paid at) time and a half.

I don't know what's worse, delusional avgas-huffing small biz owners like you're describing, or trade/technician fags in miserable careers like MEP engineering who work 90 hours a week doing soul crushing, body ruining bullshit to barely break $120k and walk around like fucking jeff bezos about it lmao. "Yeah, I work hard, but I'm also frickin ROLLING IN DOUGH." They always use these effeminate ass bloviating euphemisms to describe how much money they make instead of giving you an actual number, and if they do give a decent number they'll never tell you the chink-tier hours they work. All for the moral license to act like mike rowe lmfao

>>60747393
non union: take their $, cut it in half, and divide by like 2800 hours. usually ends up being like $30/hour at the absolute most.
union: they probably make good money on an hourly basis but they usually lie and include their pension/healthcare numbers in their hourly rate.

>>60746498 (OP)
in other words, people are assholes

>>60747424
You mean 2080 hours?

>>60747473
No dummy blue collar niggers make all their money in obscene overtime, that was the point of his and my posts

>>60747473
tradeswagies, especially non union, are working way more than 40 hours a week. and that's not even considering their long ass commutes to the job site.

>>60747496
Dummy, 53.86 hours per work is random af and doesn’t make sense.
>>60747500
2600 is better for assuming 50 per week.

>>60747525
He said "like 2800 hours a year", it was a ballpark estimate which was close enough to 2600 and closer to it than 2080 you utter autist

>>60747500
Not sure where you are getting these numbers but this is how I reverse engineered your equation. You said $30/h is good. Ok. Times that by the 2800 hours you mentioned. $84k. Times that by 2 you said. $168k per year?! That seems way too high for a non-union tradesman but ok.
>>60747544
Moved the goalposts.

>>60746498 (OP)
When I was an employee I gave it my all and was often abused by psychopath managers.

When I started my business I considered myself a very good boss. Very lax. None of the time to lean time to clean bullshit. Just do these tasks please. Paid well. Made a very nice environment. The result? Employees who were absolute shit and took advantage of my kindness and basically forced me to micromanage them and ride their ass about everything.

People suck.

>>60747556
$170k is what they claim they make. they actually make $80k and work 2800 hours a year for it.

>>60746498 (OP)
EVERY FUCKING TIME
Hypocrisy rules these losers.

>>60746498 (OP)
>Gave my employer a 2 weeks notice out of the goodness of my heart
> 4 days later after an hour drive to work, find out I was replaced without warning even though I had not quit yet

Fuck them

>>60746517
Well you got it what now?

>>60746498 (OP)
>you're quitting? you NEED to give me 2 weeks notice.
The only time I've been fired/laid-off I went in and learned I no longer had a job, no severance or anything. I will not be giving 2-weeks notice ever again unless I absolutely need them as a reference.