BREAKING: TARIFFS ON GOLD

huh?

/pmg/ trannies, are we the baddies?

>>60754300 (OP)
what does that mean? they have to pay taxes to import gold?

He's a literal dictator

BREAKING: US ADOPTS METRIC SYSTEM

>>60754300 (OP)
pay up, citizencuck

what do you think the 50% tariff on switzerland was about? just so happens they're the largest gold refiner and exporter in the world.

>>60754300 (OP)
MOST BASED ANTI-GOLD PRESIDENT SINCE NIXON

It's funny every bitcoin maxi thinks this is bad for goldbugs.
>t. refuses to elaborate

>>60754334
We need another FDR and another Execute Order 6102. Goldchuds are a threat to our democracy

Kilo bar holders can’t stop winning

>>60754303
Switzerland is where the gold smelters that convert between London standard 400oz bars and NY comex standard 1kg bars are
This tariff is a de facto capital control, it will make it harder for Americans to buy gold

bitcoiners cant stop winning

>>60754422
Why not just smelt 32 ouncers in the united states and wallah, you got an American made kilo?

>>60754300 (OP)
test

>>60754422
It gets worse every day, doesn't it?

>>60754436
Switzerland is where gold bar conversion smelting takes place right now, for legacy reasons. There is no law of nature that says gold bars have to be converted in Switzerland, but it's likely that if conversion smelters try to move elsewhere, Trump will just hit them with a new tariff or throw some other legal wrench in the works

>>60754448
Trump probably wants people to buy crypto instead, that way the Trump family makes more money

>>60754482
I'm enjoying all of this. It's helping me get what I want.

>>60754422
>>60754454
I guess maybe "melting" rather than "smelting" might be the right word in the context of converting from one bar type to another.
t. ESL

>>60754317
It means that the world's number 1 supplier of minted gold is raising its prices 39% lmao cryptofags will seethe once again. Us metals chads scream from the rooftops and faggots on this board ignore us. This is just the beginning too. Even 5k an ounce on physical gold is a steal, an ultra discount. Paper contracts cannot and will not manipulate metals for much longer.

>>60754324
The opposite actually. We're steering away from Russia and Chinese kilos. We trade 100 OZT bars.

I told you goldbugs that BTCs killer feature is its ability to go over any border in the world completely unnoticed. You didn't understand how important that is, maybe now you do

>>60754368
>Goldchuds
Recording herein a new coinage by a creative anon, 7 Aug 2025

>>60754585
You're fucking retarded holy shit this is the dumbest thing I have ever read. Fucking moron

>>60754300 (OP)
horse and buggy cucks kek

I fucking love paying taxes on everything. All taxation without representation.

>>60754300 (OP)
Kek

>>60754304
Quite the contrary, they warned you for all these years but you didn't listen.

>>60754606
No, what I said is a fact. If you have BTC on your wallet, it doesn't belong to any jurisdiction until you sell/spend it. It will always be with you no matter what border you cross. Because it's literally just a bunch of words in your head.

>>60754422
if only there were another mint, perhaps one based in the usa, that one could buy gold from

yikes, imagine paying 40% extra on that

>le exporter will lower their prices meme
it's fucking hilarious to think that, yes

>tariff on 1kg gold
So, buy 2 500g bars instead...

So much for capitalism and free trade hah

>>60754300 (OP)
Pay your student loans.

>>60754454
Private mints already in the usa could melt it easily. Switzlerland is only the legacy place for sovereign mints. But nobody cares where gold was minted when everyone just wants bullion

Also, why does the admin endorse crypto but shun gold? Really jogs my noodle

I knew there was something odd about Switzerland's tariffs being singled out and neither side having any good explanation for the rate its at. This is basically a preemptive move to implement full-fat capital controls later.

>>60755083
Except on BTC & ETH since those two going up cause stablecoins going up and stablecoins going up causes us bonds demands to go up.

You ready for 500k BTC & 35k ETH?

Bretton woods 2 is about to start

>>60754585
My farts can also cross any border unnoticed (mostly) but that doesn't mean they will be useful for anything when I get there.

>>60754974
He's called zion Don for a reason.

>>60754300 (OP)
i love how quickly the MIGA crowd turned on libertarians, there wasn't even a pretense of regret
>please we need your vote, we will balance the budget, don't let the commies win
>hahahah get fucked goldbugs, tariffs everywhere, fuck gold, infinite debt ceiling, +$8 trillion spending, intimidate the FED into lowering rates

someone should make a collage for the next time a republican seethes at libertarians for going their own way

>>60755251
goldbugs have been and will continue to get rich under trump.
and imagine being libertarian in 2025.

>>60755251
Using tariffs to that degree and purposes was always going to erode taboos around controlling prices and capital, it's a stepping stone. Also it's lolberts' fault for being retarded, and I broadly consider myself one kek

>>60755251
Lolberts deserve it

Lol none of you ever make a profit,,,, unlike me

>>60754550
Gold mining stock chads are already beating you retards

>>60755251
It turns out Libertarians were right about everything.
>>60755279
>and imagine being libertarian in 2025.
You truly haven't been paying attention.
>>60755497
Libertarians didn't vote for orange communist nigger.

>>60755517
Lolberts deserve it for being lolberts

>>60755517
>You truly haven't been paying attention.
Libertarians in congress have been voting against Trump since his first term. They voted against the border wall. As if magically they would somehow get a more libertarian president one day.
Did you know Rand Paul officially supported Trump 2024? Well, as of about two months ago. The fuck?
Libertarians are no different than Kamala supporters.

It's over

>>60754422
perfect for speeding up the deployment of the cbdc that was already announced

>>60754300 (OP)
This followed by the fact that the Federal Reserve released a publication supporting the revaluation of gold reserves and tying it to the long end of the bond market.

It's time. $4000 this year. $15000 in 18 months.

>>60754962
This. What it's going to do is accelerate the move of physical silver from the LBMA to COMEX vaults in the US.

>>60755615
I meant gold.

>>60755517
>It turns out Libertarians were right about everything.

Lolberts are mostly wrong about everything and it is embarrassing at this point anyone even takes them seriously.

>>60754482
Based af.
That’s MY crypto president!!!

>>60755566
>>60755525
Libertarians are honestly kind of cringe, but their economic ideology is basically perfect and it's exactly what would fix everything.
Imagine defending central banking.

>>60755627
>mostly wrong about everything
LOL
What about Milei?
What about central banking?
What about literally every other economic argument they've been making for decades.
Libertarianism won and you bootlickers can only cry about it.

LMFAO IMAGINE BLOCKING YOUR CITIZENS FROM BUYING CHEAP GOLD FROM WAGIE NATIONS FOR THEIR OWN "PROSPERITY". CAN NOT MAKE THIS SHIT UP.

>>60755792
>their economic ideology is basically perfect
Most Trump voters would agree, if only it were still the year 1776.
At present, you have to play the swamp game. Libertarians don't.. want to? Hence zero accomplishments.

>>60754585
Your blockchain is transparent, every transaction serialized, every wallet KYCed. You’re not hiding shit.

>>60755905
I don't even care any more.
The US dollar will lose reserve status in my lifetime. They get what they fucking deserve.

>>60754550
This makes zero sense. So why tariff gold?

>>60755814
Sorry, tranny, tariffs are le good actually!
Think about all the gold manufacturing jobs!

>>60755566
>>60755792
Thomas Massie is the single most based individual in DC, and there is no amount of fund raising, primary challenges, and kvetching that will every get him out of his seat.
>MIT grad
>self made millionaire (from building tech people wanted to buy, not from finance)
>Built his own house
>House is now totally off grid
>Raises his own food
>Judeo-skeptic
>Hoppe-pilled

>>60756119
>Thomas Massie is the single most based individual in DC

*coughs* Yeah...
>accomplished almost nothing in 10+ years.
>votes in favor of illegals. votes with democrats.
>accepts jewish billionaire money (jeff yass).
>accepts elon's algo rigging for "India Party."
>blocks Americans on twitter because butthurt.

>>60754300 (OP)
Btc of memes

Gold should shoot up in price, more so for America.
Great for us Americans (assuming the gold from Fort Knox is actually there).

>>60755980
>The US dollar will lose reserve status in my lifetime.
LMAO talk about delusional.
SEETHING Europoors at American supremacy LMAO
Your nanny state leaders already bent the knee to Trump…

>>60754300 (OP)
is the corrupt orange retard manipulating every single market and country out there? what's the next metal he will manipulate? silver? aluminium?

>>60756261
>zero hedge
may we see that trade deal - Signed and ratified by all EU member states? No? Oh. ok then.

>The treasury has begun the first phase of revaluing gold at 20k USD

>>60756297
cope ranjeet

>>60754300 (OP)
TACO TACO ARRIBA ARRIBA ANDELE ANDELE

>>60754300 (OP)
He's fucking tariffing everything. He's gonna start tariffing soil and plants now....wait.

>>60756345
/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>60755083
Can you elaborate on how this is the first step to capital controls?

>>60754368

>Be new to finance
>Gold at $1600
>Get shilled BTC manifesto
>Buy crypto
>See BTC won't give huge returns anymore threads
>Decide to buy shitcoins
>Gold at almost $4k
>Lost $100k on crypto instead
>NW of -$50k in student debt with no savings and $1k of crypto dust, living with parents at 35 because I lost my home deposit in crypto
Just how over is it for me? As in is there even any more point in trying to participate in the markets? At this point should I just accept I'm going to wageslave for life and just stay in my childhood bedroom and minimise spending?

>>60756412
Regardless of what is transpiring in short term, you should definitely learn how to minimize spending to absolute minimal.
Because what's going to happen around 10 more years will deprive most of us of many things we take for granted now.
WW3 is also scheduled for after around 2035.
But before that, ((they)) are going to deprive the people first, sow more conflicts and hatred between races and religion, to make us more open to war.
And even without war, the powers that be will be tightening their stranglehold on people's liberty and continue to siphon more of people's money.
So yeah, I'd say it's still not over for you, since the worst is yet to come.
But you still have time to prepare. I'd say we still have 5 -10 years.

mountain jews fear the backyard gold smelter

>>60756615
There is nothing I can do, I realised I am too dumb to do anything with finance. The only thing I can think of is pay off all debts and start a veggie garden and raise chickens in my parents backyard or something like it.

>>60755608
>$15000 in 18 months.
Try $27k+

>>60757739
You're not dumb. That's actually real finance you're thinking about. Raising things, making things, providing service with skills or abilities you have, trading stuff, storing your excess assets and food, charity to the needy, that's real finance.

The fake finance are the one jews are doing. Usury money lending, shuffling money around, starting scams like futures, 'financial products', etc... those are fake things that will ruin nations. They are just jewish Ponzi Schemes in drags.
These are not 'smart'. These are evil. Anybody can do it, but good people wont.
Don't be fooled by all the fake bling bling.

It's the opposite world now.
Good seems bad, bad seems good.
But if you unjew your mind, everything will be clear.

>>60754422
Doesn't seem like it would be that big of a deal to import 400oz bars and convert them to 1Kg Bars in the US..
What perhaps is more interesting is the future contracts, a lot of money need to get out of these contracts asap.

>>60754448

>>60754304
are you retarded? this will make gold even more valuable

>>60757739
To put it into perspective, I was dumb myself. I joined some scammy investment group. I believed their scam. I thought they would give me money the easy way. Before it collapsed, I managed to get some of my money out. But I lose some of it. We all live and learn.

However, you might have a second chance to salvage your bitcoin and shitcoins. Drump is planning to incorporate bitcoin into 401K.
The moment bitcoin goes back up, sell immediately, and get your money back, and put it in sound assets.
Don't be greedy. ALWAYS take profit.

>>60756392
i suspect it restricts their liquidity and prevents them from moving or storing in an asset traditionally considered a safe haven. if trump is big brain (maybe, dunno yet) he wants to prevent them from moving or securing capital in an asset he has little control over. if he tariffs gold he can somewhat corral them into a better state for negotiations. my speculation only, i havent researched it anymore than you guys i have a feeling

>>60758246
>gold more valuable
to who? i dont think this will dent the spot price as thats based on the exchanges between london and new york; but the premium or physical gold could go up but i dont think we will see a ripple in the market from this

>>60755608
>15K
i think you are being a little too generous here. id be happy to see 4K by years end but that might be asking for a bunch. alot of it will depend on what the housing market is doing

If Trump is trying to kill gold in the US why doesnt he just have the US Mint stop minting AGE? Seems kinda silly from a government perspective to just give off your gold reserves

>>60756392
Try reading this thread while its still up:
>>512485466

>>60758299
but its gone

>>60754300 (OP)T
Tarrifs on tarrifs when?

>>60758301
You can resd deleted threads on 4plebs

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/512485466/

Seriously, these last months has proven that the jannies have been replaced with literal reptile jews and pajeet, after the 4chan hack. All of the actual beneficial, organic thread got axed, while BBC and women-hating thread get spammed.
May god strike their entire bloodline down.

>>60758331
ya, jannies suck fuck for sure. thanks for info

>>60754962
>But nobody cares where gold was minted when everyone just wants bullion
Yes, I hear China will do it for cheap and you'll probably get a discount if you order large quantities.

>>60757739
Buy BTC.
>BTC won't give huge returns anymore
You'll say that all the way to 1 million and beyond.

>>60754300 (OP)
Wow this is a literal nightmare for goldfags lmao.
Imagine getting more taxes on gold. KEK

>>60758502
1 million is less than a 10x from current prices...which isn't bad, but we are in crypto to get that 50x-100x. For someone that invests 10k, a 10x from bitcoin will be 100k...which isn't much.

>>60758383
China got 200% tariff you genius

>>60758293
80% of gold minting is done by Switzerland.

The goal is not to bring back gold minting.
The goal is to make it hard for everybody to get real assets, and at the same time, tokenize all the assets, facilitate exchange of real assets into wortless assets AKA the fakecoins, while the jews escape the collapsing America (dying host) and jump ship to China (new host) with all the real assets, and restart the Ponzi scheme anew.

>>60756245
Did Elon ever get to audit Fort Knox?

>>60758698
lol they fell out before they could even come up with the concepts.

>>60758592
You’re supposed to already be rich and then you put your riches into bitcoin for a 10x idiot. You can’t put ten million dollars into boobookittyfuck69420 coin. There’s levels to liquidity

>>60754300 (OP)
The big 400 Oz gold bars that banks and whales buy have no tariffs.

>>60756392
see >>60758264
Also, historically it's a signal, e.g. the British started restricting gold, even measly gold coins, before ramping up capital controls in the late 60s/early 70s to try to hold on to pound sterling's close-second status while the empire shit the bed

>>60756394
not your keys not your coins
now show me ow the government is going to seize my own wallet
no some vague claim about backdoors isnt going to cut it, give a step by step explanation of how to do this
but wait if you could give this then you could claim satoshis coins and since that hasnt happened yet lol lmao

>>60755083
capital controls via tariffing gold coming into the country which has problems of transport and verification while at the same time mass promoting domestic crypto ownership which is the easiest thing to escape a nations borders with
yeah something doesnt add up there

a more realistic explanation is a demarcation between western and eastern economies
russia and china and some more irrelevant countries have stocked up on gold, while the west is going full digital economy
seems prudent to kill the value of the enemies holdings prior to hostilities breaking out
inb4 pgm autistic screeching: golds industrial value is tiny to its speculative value and all speculative value is based on belief and can change on a whim
no i can hold it in my hand and its shiny arent stores of value by itself

>>60758813
>give a step by step explanation of how to do this
1. create a national crypto address registry
2. "coins originating from the wallets in the registry are valid, other coins are invalid, you have 1 year to register your wallet"
3. you do something and get fined, the judge orders you to surrender your coins and pay the fine, you decline, your registered wallet is marked as invalid
4. every payment processor refuses to accept your money and all transactions you send bounce back automatically
5. you are free to continue transacting your worthless tainted coins among other crypto schizos in a black market community, population: 20, available goods: blowjobs and junk silver coins

>>60758840
To quote some people:
Central banks are now acquiring gold to back their own currencies, NOT to convert from gold to digital, but to give them a seat at the NYFed/BIS/IMF TOKENIZED ASSET table.

Capital controls?
To force people to invest money elsewhere like the stock market rather than "waste" it on gold.

For the confused mutts: you can send 1kg of american-produced gold to switzerland, have it stamped and then returned, now it's a swiss product and you must pay 40%
it's not just swiss gold imports that are being taxed, it's swiss refining/minting services. They control around 80% of the world's refining output due to how efficient they are, greatly inconveniencing any american who wants physical gold as they will be forced to look for other countries and be bottlenecked or exposed to higher premiums as a result.

In short, it's one of the steps to avoid capital flight, by redirecting funds of people who wants to avoid incoming economical collapse next year from buying gold and real asset, into buying worthless 0 and 1s like shitcoins, which will be incorporated into 401k and such to artificially boost numbers up.
At first, it'll look good because numbers go up, monke brain likes numbers go up. Me likey coin number go up.
But at the end of the day, the dying empire will be left with nothing but worthless shit.

The 'banks'? They are already long gone after jumping ship to Chyna with all the gold they hoarded, and leave you with your shitcoins.

>>60758890
>junk silver coins
Good.

>>60758890
nobody can appoint my wallet to my physical identity first mistake
second black markets in both narcotics and sexual favors are already giant and illegal doesnt top them mooning

but worst offense you didnt answer the question, nothing of what you said made the government take possession of my coins, which was the absolute retardation i was addressing in that pic that other anon posted

>>60759049
>nobody can appoint my wallet to my physical identity first mistake
I think you misunderstand how easy it would be to do with retard republicans in charge. They wouldn't care about security, so it would be super easy to just store this shit in a plain text file somewhere at the least.

Government database:
[1]: "Jimmy Businessguy", AuthorizedBitcoinWallet: "XYZ1234ABC", AuthorizedEthWallet: "BLAHBLAH"
[2]: "Sally Shitcoin", AuthorizedBitcoinWallet: "xccxc"
etc.

>>60759049
>nobody can appoint my wallet to my physical identity first mistake
then the coins in that wallet will be worth nothing
>nothing of what you said made the government take possession of my coins
you assign a lot of value to that, as if the government cannot build a system around the blockchain in a way that miners won't even look at the transactions you try to send to mempool because your wallet is not whitelisted

>>60758934
>The 'banks'? They are already long gone after jumping ship to Chyna with all the gold they hoarded
jumping ship to a country that has no property right or human rights for that matter and where in fact ceos of billion dollar conglomerates are picked up from the street and send to reeducation camp
yep you guys are the sharpest tool in the shed

also gold being clustered in switzerland has nothing to do with 'how efficient' they are, the laws of thermodynamics are just the same there and they have no real energy alpha
the reason they are there are trust issues in the immediate post ww2 world where switzerland was neutral and discrete
they killed their banking secrecy due to american pressure and they killed their neutrality to go in bed with ukraine so no wonder there is no need anymore for paying the swiss a premium

further the imf/bis are exponents of western imperial control, they impose the dictats of western oligopoly, why do you think they will enforce a standard that gives outsized power to the global east
which are the cbs buying gold, western cbs are either doing nothing or selling gold
i never understand the mindset of people that think that our own institutions will declare with our enemies to pump their specific bags, what mental illness is this

>>60759080
nothing they do will get them my wallet linkd to my physical identity, do you think everyone buys kyc'ed on goybase in the last few years

>>60759081
and that is exactly the reason why monero died and went to zero, oh wait
and that is exactly the reason why the uae economy collapsed since they deported all the foreign wealth, oh wait
why must we in 2025 of all years still explain the very basics of holding an asset without counter party having value regardless of governmental action to you retards

>>60759103
> US requires all exchanges that'll convert to USD to only accept from authorized wallets
one step and all your hidden wallets are worthless. We know you aren't going to istanbul to cash out and then flying back. You're just using coinbase like everyone else, who will follow US law

>>60759103
monero is worthless in countries where crypto is strictly regulated
nothing prevents any country from strictly regulating crypto, and nothing stops them from making this regulation global, the national wallet registry is not hard to implement at all, and after it's introduced, you will be holding assets that are either obeying their regulations, or are worth nothing, and your only hope would be that someday the government will change its regulations and will unfreeze your assets

>>60759126
i am not even a burger you idiot

>>60759157
>and will unfreeze your assets
using words you dont understand, my assets arent frozen onchain now are they, and if not how were they frozen in the first place

>>60759171
you need miners to add your transaction to the new block, and they themselves will have to mine to whitelisted wallets and can be fined for approving blacklisted transactions
sounds like you can't imagine how to build a regulatory system around a mathematically invulnerable blockchain because you have no idea how crypto works, go chat with ai about it

>>60759200
altho theoretically possible you would need to control a majority of the miners under a single jurisdiction, that ship has long since sailed
maybe you talk to ai about what decentralized really implies or come back when mining has been captured entirely by blackrock

>>60759087
Jews had been preparing Chyna as the next host since early 1900s you retard.
Rothschild even own 30% share in Bank of China.
I won't even bother posting the infographics anymore since its clear nobody on this site has 2 brain cells to rub together, hence the propensity for memecoins.

>>60759336
yes this argument has been made countless times, good luck infiltrating a hardcore ethno nationalistic state where you stand out quite noticeably from the natives

>>60759346
They are already there you imbecile.

>>60759268
You don't have to control 'majority' of miners, its all on public ledgers. If you ever cashed in the coins, or bought the coin somewhere, your name is already stamped on the wallet in their record.
The fact that you can't even fathom how they would control the coins, which has been a subject of heavy discussion to death for the past years, with real life example of people getting vanned for illegal trasnaction using cryptos, even who shorted them, proves that you're a 7X IQ pajeet with indian education.

>>60754300 (OP)
I would be worried if the majority of gold was actually being used to benefit people, not sold a jewelry, coins, and bullion.

>>60755251
I thought they only cared about Ross Ulbricht being pardoned.

>>60759397
>your name is already stamped on the wallet in their record
and this is where you are wrong kiddo, not everyone is as retarded as you

>>60755251
Libertarianism is often the first stop along the MAGA pipeline for young men so they all the more deserved it

>>60754300 (OP)
How much gold in the US is imported? Does this really effect the price much?

>>60759764
Earlier this year, the US imported such a massive amount of gold that it actually drove the GDP negative for a quarter

>>60754300 (OP)
I will never stop buying it.

>>60758083
What do you think of the old advice of DCA into index funds?

BREAKING: everything, everything is breaking!

>>60761246
If you're talking about the returns, assuming USA will stand for 1000 more years and not collapsing soon, index funds and the likes does not produce enough return to offset the inflation.
It might be able to reduce the effect of inflation on your money, at best.
If you have 10 million dollars or something, putting them in index fund probably can keep you fed and clothed and housed, since the return, although small in percentage, is large enough for you to live on.
If your fund is small, then you can't even live on them.

Problem is, USA is a collapsing empire.
Most likely all of these funds will bite the dust around 10 more years, but not before inflation annihilate all values from your fund.
So the advice of 'put money in index fund, let usury grow your fund, wait till retirement and then enjoy free money" is no longer valid because the current jewish monetary system won't even last that long.

I also have some of these 'index' fund, but I'm not under any illusion that they will make real profit.

People who stack gold doesn't stack because they think it'll make them rich AKA profiting off them.
They stack to preserve their assets from the accursed touch of ZOG debt-based monetary system which will collapse in your lifetime.
So that, one day, after the dust have settled, out of the ashes, they have something to kickstart their life back up again.

But, to get income, what is proven to work, tried-and-tested in all of history is having some sort of skills or making something, then trade these skill or things with money. You can be a barber, a farmer, transporter, trader, anything.
Then you save your income frugally, building your life little by little.

You are your biggest asset. If you're willing to work/do something, you can always figure things out slowly, one step at a time.

The problem nowdays is, everybody wants easy money without working for it, by being accomplice in jewish scams.

You figure out what to do, I can't