EuroKEKS can't imagine making $100k/y

>>60758863 (OP)
When a Unitedstatesian says that they make $100K/y do they mean the net amount after taxes and Social Security?

>>60758876
Yes because we don't tax income at 50%+ like GOYmany.
KEK
germKEKS

>>60758863 (OP)
Hes earning 30M a year... It's amerilards who can't even image this

>>60758863 (OP)
Yeah you have more money, but you will also go bankrupt once you break a toe

i make around 200k dollarinos per year and still find time to call out niggers on here (my country is mostly white)

Id rather earn 60k and do siesta everyday

>>60758876
No they usually mean the gross amount on the paycheck

Ameriburgers need to earn that much because breaking a bone or crashing your car without insurance can set you back alot. "Oh my car is insured you stupid europoor!" Yeah and is Miguel's car that just rear ended you also insured?

>>60758980
>>60758982
>>60758985
>>60759084
OHNONONONONONO EUROGYPSIES!!!!!!

I make the equivalent of $30k USD in Europe and I'm wealthier than 99% of population here.

I will make 300k for building sets on Broadway. Plus another 50k in contributions from my employer to my retirement account. Plus a pension.

So 350 total comp. No college.
No bs btw.

>>60758863 (OP)
>2008-09 GFC
>Covid
>Ukraine (war, defense purchases during war and now after nato % increase, bye cheap gas, hello africanigs please stop sending immigrants but sell me gas plz)
>Tariffs
Why do our ameribros keep us euros in vassalage?

i made 80k getting drunk and making people sign up for spectrum internet.

I make roughly $160k per year living in EU
because I work for a US business
60% goes to taxes btw. I literally pay most of my salary to house immigrants that then commits crime and destroys the country

>>60759133
you finish your higher education around 24 and that lands you at junior position with an annual salary between 20 (follow your heart) and 60k (I want to get paid) usd, depending on the part of europe but still in that range
it doubles in ~5 years after you get a senior position and almost double again (work hour adjusted) ~5-10 years later and doesn't rise after
everyone not retarded has a degree, several and 1 unfinished are common because sometimes people just change their mind
cost of living past basic necessities, including real-estate is proportionally cheaper
only cars and iphones cost the same everywhere

Here's the reality kiddos, middle class in the developed world lives about the same everywhere.

>>60758863 (OP)
Gotta go back

>>60759133
>18-24
So you mean that the 50% that are in tertiary education do not make a lot of money? Who would have thunk it!

>>60759185
Good for you. How much do you pay in rent near Broadway?

>>60759185
I thought all of that shit was unionized?

>>60758863 (OP)
This is now a laugh at Eurpoors thread.
More Europoors die due to lack of AC than niggers shooting each other in the US.

>>60758885
Goymans can't even insult anyone online without being raided by the police.

>>60759133
Lol those numbers for Switzerland have got to be bullshit. No way you can survive there taking home less than 40k euros a year unless you take public transporation everywhere and literally never eat out.

>>60758863 (OP)
The past century has been the US capitalizing and absolutely financially mogging the entire planet. So obviously people in that country will be raping europoors.

t. europoor who outright earns 1/5th what an American with my job would earn.

It's shit but blame euro governments.

>>60758876
We usually say our gross income because nobody actually knows how much they truly have to pay in taxes until filing time.

>>60758876
In truth. No.
But maybe.
Technically it costs my company like 80k a year to employ me, I'm just a line worker but they pay a lot for my insurance and whatever else the owe to uncle Sam for all that, and I still get 52k a year. After taxes that comes out to like 38k a year.

>>60758993
>>60759494
Makes sense, but very unintuitive for maybe 70% of Euros.

>>60759133
18-24 y/o is kinda irrelevant. Nobody real makes money at that age unless they're extremely talented, lucky, or both.

>>60758863 (OP)
I think this is more of a Southern Euro thing. I make pretty much exactly $100k right now (€87k). However I'm still in my 30s and have only been at my current job for a few years. I get automatic raises every two years and in 20 years my final salary until retirement will be €150k (plus inflation, the wage is automatically adjusted for inflation). If I ever have a kid I will get an additional €600 per month. I only have a high school diploma and work an office job for the government.

>>60759374
meaningless, non transferable estimates
people in the south have a permanent ac installation
people in the north sometimes have the equivalent of a window unit
It's mostly old people that die due to underlying conditions
because they live longer in europe

>Goymans can't even insult anyone online without being raided by the police
what do you think the average afd enjoyer does on the internet and after 3 beers in a public place

>>60758863 (OP)
In Prague, $30k/year netto is considered a reasonable, livable wage. $60k/year netto is senior managers and average programmers. Above $100k/year netto is C-level money, with CEOs usually getting anywhere between $150-200k/year netto (including bonuses) if they're not at a shit company. Murricans truly do have exceptionally high wages. All of that is relative though. Broken ankle in Czech republic costs you zero to fix, and you will receive reasonably good care. In Murrica, it's $13000 + tip + tax + another tip for ambulance driver. But then, Prague also has like the second worst house prices/income ratio anywhere in the world.

>>60759685
What really fucking sucks is we could probably have Euro-tier health care in the US and it would probably cost less than our current system.

>>60758863 (OP)
the truth is that most eurocucks have jobs. that is the real problem. its very rare to be a businessman, self employed in eurocuckville. those who do go down this path earn much more

Britain and southern europe isn’t europe.

>>60758863 (OP)
I make €52k pre tax in a northern Euro country as an IT guy. Will be around €60k next year. My manager's manager probably makes around €80-€90k. Idk, having huge wealth disparity usually doesn't work out long term.

I was absolutely appalled to learn in that dermatologist thread last week that this guy who treats eczema and warts was making $600k. What kind of bullshit is that? No wonder healthcare is so fucked in the US

>>60759908
also don't lump the nordics together with the filthy continentals please

>>60758863 (OP)
it's not rare in EU. that guy is janitor.
and it's not normal to make 100k in US. only 16% of people in US make over 100k

>>60758876
but the taxes and VAT are even higher in the EU?

>>60759952
no they are not. that's just what boomers told you. same ones who wanted you to take the shot.
you trust them in one thing but in another you call them retards.
you have low IQ. Sorry

>>60758980
This isn’t true. For example my wife went through pregnancy and birth last year. This involved multiple pediatrician appointments, ultrasounds, a full team for the delivery, a multiple day hospital stay with meals, etc. lactation consultants. All in after insurance? $1500, which I paid with my FSA which comes out of pretax income. I make over $160k per year as a chemical engineer, and my wife makes $90k per year as an accountant. So paying $1500 of pretax income didn’t really break us at all. I’d take that any day over paying for a bunch of lazy bums to not work all day, like in Europe.
If you’re low wage Europe is better. If you’re high wage, America is.

>>60759949
Making 86k€ is pretty rare anon. And you’d have a much greater tax burden. It also would vary between countries. Poorer EU counties definitely would not have many high earners, while places like Ireland tend to have higher wages. However if you include places like Switzerland, Luxembourg, etc. that will skew your wages.

>>60759966
I can’t stand the amount of violent homeless people that USA has. How do you guys just deal with them? Also the public infrastructure is shitty compared to weu. And i also simply need to work less here. In my profession (doctor) it would be nothing but work work work in USA, with a chance of getting sued and losing my license + tens of millions for being unlucky with a diagnosis. Here i can name my hours, take as much unpaid leave as i want and don’t need to worry about the retarded law system. But seriously, all the homeless people and loads of more crime is already a deal breaker for me, and i don’t want that chance of getting fucked over by health insurance.

>>60758863 (OP)
As for me, I can't imagine not having my 10 weeks of paid leave per year, but hey, everyone is different after all.

>>60760036
My understanding is doctors in the EU and UK are generally not paid that well. Isn’t it something like 50k€ starting? I could be wrong but another anon said that.
Coincidentally I just got back from Europe, and you have zero right to talk about homeless people. Every city I went to (Dublin, Madrid, Berlin, etc.) had both domestic homeless people and packs of migrants. I’m talking 6-12 migrants per group. This was especially common at any public transit spot like bus stations or metros. That being said, in America when you’re paid well one of the benefits is that you are kept at a nice distance from the riff raff. I’m not some rural acreage larper. I live in a typical wealthy suburb of a major city, but I never see homeless people, or gun violence. I saw more sketchy people on O’Connell street in Dublin, one of the main streets in the city, than I have in the past year where I live.

>>60759372
It is
>>60759370
You don't have to live in Manhattan. There is plenty of stuff within 20 mins that is extremely affordable with that income.

>>60760103
UK isn’t all of europe. In my country (finland) doctors get paid around 80k- 150k a year. And the migrants don’t do anything lol, unlike american brown people. I got assaulted by a nigger just 15 minutes after i stepped on NYC. And you can check crime statistics to confirm this. I admit i haven’t been to those cities but the cities i have been to (for example Paris, Stockholm, Amsterdam, Helsinki) it was way less homeless people.

So you have to live in a rich suburb to not see all those people not covered by USA’s private system? Sucks for all who like to live in cities or visit them.

>>60760138
Couldn't imagine what a mark you look like to get assaulted that quick.

I spend most of my time in Manhattan and I've only been in a few altercations on the street over like 15 years.

>>60760138
>Sucks for all who like to live in cities or visit them.
I’ll be honest, I don’t associate with people who like to live in or be around cities. In general I don’t like cities. I only went on a Euro tour of a few cities because my wife wanted to. I’d rather spend my time in nature, if given the option.
I also doubt you’d find many French posters on here who would say there isn’t a migrant problem in Paris. The police don’t even try to stop them from scamming tourists at the Eiffel Tower.
All that being said, Europe benefits massively from Americas private health system. Places like Massachusetts lead the world in biotech development, and that is strictly because there is a profit motive to it. I know it’s vogue in Europe to larp as altruists when it comes to free healthcare, and I know it’s popular in America to say it’s because you don’t have large defense spending because of us, but there’s more to it. Most innovation happens here and it happens because people want to make money, and honestly there’s nothing wrong with that.

>>60760138
When I visited NYC, I legit felt I landed in Africa by mistake. And I certainly wasn't visiting Harlem.

>>60760153
Kek what does ”a mark” mean? I admit i was dressed like Patrick Bateman lmao. But likr every day some homeless nigger would come and loot at me threatingly. At the street, at a dunking donuts as they came in begging money ect. The migrants here don’t do anything like that, they just mind their own business.

>>60760042
The real play is to be American and have a job that will allow you to take sabbaticals (Euros tend not to know this is an option). Yeah it's not a government-fed paid vacation, but if you're making way more money than a Europoor in a year while having the same amount of time off, you're winning.

>>60760168
A few scamming guys at eiffel tower is nothing compared to all those violent homeless people. ”The migrant problem” is made by people who don’t know how bad the situation is in northern america. Europe has a lot of medical innovation too (Ozempic for a popular recent example) but yeah USA has loads of it too.

>>60760196
https://youtu.be/p_kKHvbZ4lE?si
I used migrants scamming as a more general problem, but come on now anon, you know they do all kinds of shit. Think about all of the Islamic terror attacks that occur across Europe pretty regularly now. They’re so common they barely make the news anymore. Not even two weeks ago a Muslim allah ackbar’d and stabbed a cop in Ireland. Think of the lists you have seen. Sure, we have gun violence but it’s contained to specific demographics and areas, almost entirely. In Europe you could get trucked at a Christmas market.

>>60759949
>only 16% of people in US make over 100k

The fact that a whooping 16% of the population makes six-figures is insane. Our money truly is worthless.

>>60760219
The thing is it’s not uncommon for someone to work their way into that position, whereas the upward mobility in Europe seems not as prominent. You won’t really find people like tradesmen or truck drivers in Europe getting six figures, but you do find that in America. And yes, Europe isn’t one country but in this case I am generalizing the entire continent.

>>60760214
Kek those are grifter videos made to be as dramatic as possible. Of course dumb chuds fall for them. The muslim terrorist attacks are honestly rare, Internet just loves to blow them up. It’s the average violence in america that people don’t react to. Vast majority of migrants are indeed just migrants, not comperable to homeless as a crime problem. Once again you can check the statistics on crime.

>>60759504
Blame the mega ultra giga rich foreigners buying up all of your fancy alps real estate.

>>60760246
I’m not denying that America has a violence problem, it does. But I wouldn’t say that Europe is the place that you think it is, at least not anymore.

>>60759375
>>60760248
Sorry responded to the wrong post, meant to respond to tagged Swiss anon. I know Switzerland is outrageously expensive so yeah it's always a rich foreigner issue at play.

>>60760253
I live here, of course i know what kind of place it is. I know how fucking incredibly rare it is to actually get into a terrorist attack, they are not commonplace at all. As i said, vast majority of migrants just mind their own business and people are needlessly spooked by them. I do think that immigration to europe should be restricted from ME and africa tho. I’m just telling why i like living in europe instead of USA despite being a high earner. I’ve never been a guy who likes to spend all his time in just one suburb, but i guess if you’re more on the nerdish introvert conservative type, USA is better for you.

>>60760278
I spend my home life at my house in my neighborhood with my wife and kids. I don’t see the appeal of city life at this stage of my life.

>>60760178
To "look like a mark" means to appear vulnerable, gullible, or easily deceived, making you a prime target for scams, cons, or manipulation. The term "mark" comes from carnival and con artist slang, where it referred to someone identified as an easy victim for a rigged game or scheme. If someone says you look like a mark, they’re suggesting you give off an impression of being naive, overly trusting, or unaware—someone who might not see the trick coming. It’s often tied to body language, behavior, or a lack of street smarts that signals you’re an easy target.

>>60760178
But yes, all the scammers and hustlers are very aggressive. In a city that busy that's what it takes.

>>60758876
>When a Unitedstatesian says that they make $100K/y do they mean the net amount after taxes and Social Security?
Usually we are referring to pre-tax.
$100K pre-tax would be roughly $70k post-tax. But it depends heavily on your specific tax situation because our tax code is so complicated.

>>60760284
4chan should preface every Chat JeetPT post with an AI tag. This shit is getting ridiculous.

>>60758980
OH NO!!! I have to pay 20-100$ a month for private healthcare instead of 20-150$ a month for government healthcare!

THE HORROR!!!!!
(as a canadian I know several people who are in severe medical debt for needed surgeries because our "free" health care is a total fucking scam if you are in any way a responsible person, its great for drunk or drugged out losers and freeloading grifter types though.)

>>60758885
>be americlap
>walk to your precious jerb
>nigga breaks your leg
>"youre fired, sir."
>life among niggers for the rest of your life

Bong here - making £100k through contracting. All WFH, it's pretty comfy.

Comparing nominal wages just shows how stupid you are.

>>60759133
Damn bro, ur telling me that uni students who work 20 hours of part time dont make a lot of money? What a revelation. Fucking idiot

>>60759374
Damn bro... flameniggers must hang...

>>60760103
> €50k starting
> UK doctor
Im a UK doctor and my base starting pay was £26k 3 years ago lmao. Im only on £60k now and that's with lots of nights and weekends.

But UK medicine is absolutely gigafucked. They just spammed it with fradulent indian doctors to keep salaries low and made the NHS a state religion so like priests we shouldn't ask for pay because we're meant to be in it for the sacred cause treating Mehmet and his 40 strong epileptic clan attending A&E for veruccas.

>>60760103
Also to add to your latter point. Europe, especially the UK and Ireland are laughably ruined with social housing planning. They decided to avoid ghettos all areas have interspersed council housing so nowadays you're never more than 5 minutes away from a migrant hive. You get better and worse areas but outside of the countryside you never get 'good' areas. Maybe worked when the local chavs were just Barry and Sandra who at their worst spend their weekends in Betfred but not now that it's Mohammed and Mohammed out on their rapes.

>>60759685
None of the wages talked about itt are netto though

60k netto is like 120k brutto so way above any average or median in any european country

>>60761899
>europe, especially UK and Ireland
The state of the mutt education. Neither UK, nor Ireland is in Europe you mongrel. If you actually look at a world map, you can clearly see that they are not on the same landmass.

>>60758980
They are all in debt.It's very normal for Americans to be in mid 5-figures of debt. This is why their median net worth is about on par without poor southern European countries like Spain ironically, despite earning far more.
Then you have to consider that their quality of life is lower than most places in Europe. ie the food is much worse, the houses are worse, the culture is worse, the schools are worse, the infrastructure is worse, just about everything is worse there.
So if you factor it all together; they earn more, they accrue a lot more debt, and they have to spend far more money to have equivalent living standards as the average European, that's why what they brag about doesn't match the reality we see.

>>60758863 (OP)
I make 100k usd (netherlands), with a 10% performance bonus, 5 yrs experience. Expecting also 5% increase in pay from january. Its not so much i get taxed to death and am desperate to leave

>>60762146
We are in Europe, what are you smoking? We aren't in the EU, Ireland is. We are all on the same tectonic plate as Europe, the same continent, and humans settled on Britain when it was a peninsula of the European land mass.

>>60761899
This is only true for inner cities where everyone is poor anyway. For a normal middle class family living in a village or small town none of that is true.

>>60762146
>Ireland isn’t in Europe
>Makes mutt education comment
Why are Europeans like this?

>>60761722
Aren’t taxes much different for a contractor though? As in you have to pay VAT etc on that 100k, then income tax on whatever you pay out to yourself?

>>60762207
I’m not sure how to explain this to a European but those problems are largely relegated to the poors and retards. If you’re a normal, white, middle class guy your debt is likely only a mortgage. I don’t really care about “the average” standard of living as that has never applied to me in my life. My parents were middle class, I am middle class, and everyone I associate with is middle to lower-upper class. Our middle class standard of living is better than whatever you would have in Europe. I don’t care about the bottom quintile being more equal, honestly.

>>60762213
Why are you desperate to leave?

>>60758876
My total income is about 170k/yr (USD). married with 4 kids and a subchapter S corp. I pay a little over 3,000 in federal income tax. (My state, Virginia, fucks me for a over 5k in income tax). I pay 9,300 in payroll taxes (sadly unavoidable).

>>60762213
What branche?

>>60758863 (OP)
>you look like to get
38% of USA are millionaires. by these definitions, you're still a lower class wagecuck.

>>60759374
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
That graph is fucking hilarious, Europe is pathetic.
Kudos from Australia

>>60758863 (OP)
poor wage slaves mocking poorer wage slaves
can't make this shit up

>>60759374
Now show the average age of those heat deaths and the average age of the gun victims :^)

>>60762516
Now show the race of the gun victims and perpetrators, and you’ll see why Americans don’t care.

>>60762566

>>60762595
does that include the school and mass shootings ?

I live in Romania and make over 100k dollarydoos and I won't spend them.

>>60758863 (OP)
Making 100k in Norcal (not bay area) and still feel poor

>>60762874
I think this is the crux of this entire thread. Europeans make less but don’t feel poor because their (high) taxes seem to be used more effectively. I get the counter arguments (little defense spending because the USA underwrites their security, etc.). It all boils down to location. Making 100k in rural Maine would probably be like being a millionaire in California.

>>60758985
>Id rather earn 60k and do siesta everyday
not a eurokek and i agree

if you're in your 30s and you're single and have no family or children then you should pivot to relax maxxing because it's over for you

Americans who make six figures also pay 2-300 dollars in rent and their insurance fees and cost of living is sky high, their money is monopoly tier in purchasing power. Someone making 100k in Europe paying 500 dollars in rent is richer than 98% of Americans.

>>60762919
>(little defense spending because the USA underwrites their security, etc.
most money spent on a product does not mean most value created
Everything is more expensive so it shouldn't be a surprise that the industry receiving blank checks from the government for almost a century has ballooning costs

>>60762595
that's the rate
poor people tend to shoot each over more and minorities have a higher poverty rate

>>60762959
>implying having a family is an achievement in this day and age
if youre single in your 30s without kids you've dodged a massive bullet

>>60762977
If you boil it all down to even NATO spending then most of the European members lag behind, save for Poland.

>>60762979
>Anti-natalist faggot
Somehow people have begun to look at kids as an economic and lifestyle burden. They’re not. Kids are actually wonderful.

>>60762979
probably not as it's supposed to be our main imperative, but we find meaning in life where we can. it's clown world now.

>>60759133
Yeah well, we live in a bureaucratised totalitarian shithole where politics consist of having a seasonal rotation of faceless corrupt suits passing positions to each other

>>60759185
>I work on broadway
Be honest, you’re gay aren’t you?

>>60763077
I think it's a euphemism for being a twink male escort

>>60762919
Almost half of the American population consists of feral subhumans who see white people as walking money piñatas. It's illegal to discriminate against these creatures which means the only way you can keep them out of your neighborhood is to make housing or rent too expensive for them. This is why Americans make so much yet feel so poor, most of their income is spent on the privilege of living in an area where they won't be eaten alive by archaic hominids.

>>60762984
there's both less and not much different spending on a gpd basis but underwriting is the wrong word entirely, there isn't a bank account somewhere that needs to be continuously filled
It's only an agreement for the purpose of deterring a war with the member states for which they have to fuel the US industrial military complex and not the ones' in their adversaries list.

in 2024 us defence spending budget was $850 billion, for canada and europe $485 billion
US didn't spend it all on Europe, nor can it ever transfer all its assets to the area, nor is the value of those costs comparable

>>60762988
That's a whole lot of assumptions woven out of nothing but your own imagination my guy. I just refuse to have kids before I've reached financial independence. Goes well with honing my ability to determine the quality of my future off-springs mother's character through accumulated life experience as well as setting my potential off-spring up to success themselves. Help yourself before you help others kind of thing. To me, life success is as much determined by avoiding certain mistakes as making a concerted effort towards something. As men, we have time on our side. Why not use it? Seeing the average western woman makes me feel like i'm not really missing out anyways. I feel confident in my path because all I have to do is continue the plan. Everyday small steps. Most families can barely see beyond of the fog of tomorrows laundry.
>>60762994
>imperatives
>meaning
My life meaningful without kids, how do you explain that? I have a strong imperative without them too.

>>60758863 (OP)
well yeah its uncommon as eu is very anti business and if you are lucky enough to make it over half will go to taxes so its still like you're making 40k

>>60760246
Indeed. No-passport-bros fail to realize that every German city has a block or two of junkies by the main train station and it has been like that since the early seventies.
Fucking tired of content grifters.

>>60759685
In Denmark 100k is considered normal

>>60760246
>Vast majority of migrants are indeed just migrants
All the shitskins in White countries are getting deported... you can't stop what has already begun. Go home while you can jew.

>>60763120
>My life meaningful without kids, how do you explain that? I have a strong imperative without them too.
you're getting defensive when i wasn't even attacking you. i literally said we find meaning in life where we can: there is meaning in life outside of kids, if that's the hand one is dealt.

but it is clearly the male biological imperative to breed and pass on genes. that is the ideal path in life (unless you're some literal saint or sage etc). let's at least keep a clear head about these things and admit the obvious to ourselves.

>>60758863 (OP)
i make $120k a year in the jewnited states of muttmerica and it's literally nothing.

>>60763221
Determistic drivel. Im not dealt a hand of being childless. I could have knocked up all my exes if thats what I wanted. Or some of the many other women I have banged. But I didnt. Why? Because im smarter than that. I see further ahead than most men follow the instinctual programming and institutional conditioning by society that combines these things to produce your ikea grade level of understanding of meaning in life. At this point I also feel euphoric, unironically.

>>60758863 (OP)
Nigga what? Even in semi-rural places, a good tech job will be $150k easy.

I make around $250k because I have two such jobs (both remote)

>>60759374
But what are the heat deaths in the US to compare?

>>60763120
That’s fair enough but I’ll give you the warning that autism in children is more closely linked to paternal than maternal age. Also it’s difficult to keep up with a young one when you’re in your 40’s, especially if it’s your first time.
>inb4 my wife will do all the child rearing
That’s a recipe for disaster.

>>60763260
>Determistic drivel.
how is my post strictly deterministic when i made an intentional concession of extra temporal apprehension by mentioning saints and sages.

what are you even talking about you bitter failed normie.

>>60758980
just don't pay your medical bills
lol
lmao even

So many seething euroGUCKs in this thread.
I really struck a nerve, huh?

>>60762988
kids are great but women are unbearable. and the chances of you being able to adopt or find a surrogate mother as a chud freak is ~0.

>>60758863 (OP)
isn't their life way more sustainable at 60k?

>>60759960
kys retard

>>60761873
Can’t you guys start working in Australia after getting experience for a few years?

>>60763549
My wife is a bigger chud than me now. She is slightly on the spectrum but undiagnosed so she just absorbs all my chudlike tendencies like a sponge.

>>60762346
Yeah but you’re stuck to being in your designated area unless you want to see all the ill poor people. Cities for example are way more violent as you can see from the statistics. So if you like freedom of movement and not worry about dangerous poor people, europe is nicet.

>>60762988
>>60763120

>>60760138
theres also the second highest unemployment in eu and everything is more expensive than in the rest of eu and indeed the only chance to make money is to be a doctor or a lawyer or finance but even then you have to make sure to not take the money as salary or you will lose over half of it. for the majority its a shithole country quickly getting worse than the ex soviet ones

>>60763759
The reason it’s getting worse right now is because it can’t interact in any way with over 1000km or border it has with a next door huge underdeveloped market. It’s not even like it’s an island, the border is just a black hole. Denmark and Sweden aren’t going down despite having similiar tax rates. Everyone blaming socialism is a retard who can’t see two steps ahead of himself.

>>60760219
They probably also live on the east and west coast or other cities with sky high cost of living.

>>60763795
heh yeah that was some impressive self sabotage. and they sometimes like to say that there wasn't much trade anyway, conveniently staying silent about the data before these policies started coming

>>60763299
Youre talking about biological imperatives and intrinsic meaning in procreation, being "dealt a hand" if one is childfree assuming its not a choice but something that was imposed on you concluding that youre not in control in life. Do you even know what youre trying to say?