Thread 60768109

We are in a recession, aren't we?

>>60768109 (OP)
Since about 2019 yes

If that was true shouldn't wages be at an ATH right now? If there's fewer people willing to work...
Really makes me think.

Of course it's the men. Useless gender.

>>60768138
go back to crystal cafe

>>60768109 (OP)
>jannietroon posting off topic "HOW CUM.... DA MEN BE NOT DOING DA WORKIN????" thread to increase user engagement

>>60768122
>If there's fewer people willing to work
replaced by cheap immigration labor you retard

>>60768114
Uh no more like 2014 buddy.

>>60768114
>>60770523
More like 2008

>>60768109 (OP)
Yes but this is the gayest and fakest recession to ever exist.

Its just companies refusing to pay their workers a livable salary and would rather sink company profits in order to shoe horn AI as a stop-gap.

Much different than the 70s and early 2000s. This recession is completely manufactured.

I retired at 32 because I felt like society didn't deserve my contributions anymore. Simple as.
I'm considering signing up with ICE just for fun, but probably won't. Fuck waking up early.

>>60770524
2008 was the very beginning. It took a few years before people finally started accepting it and started dying from opiods, etc. It's really fucked up how many young people died in the 2010s from just despair because they had no futures and nobody talks about it. But it's their fault, right? Lol

>>60770528
This desu. But to hear the employers tell it when they think they’re in safe company, there are too many mouths to feed and not enough jobs to go around, or not enough of the employer’s money to go around to pay everyone.

>>60770604
If you mention how good things used to be like 20 years ago, literally everybody that's old enough to remember will just sperg the fuck out on you because they all know in the back of their minds how fucked everything is now and they can't mentally handle it. The denial was never this bad before.

>>60770635
>If you mention how good things used to be like 20 years ago
Is it true that people used to go to college, study whatever they felt like, and not struggle at all to get a job that let them buy a house and support a family?

>>60770646
40k a year starting out of college was almost a guarantee with a business degree from a university. 50-60k a year starting was normal if you had a more specialized degree like accounting etc. 60k a year starting was not out of the norm in more affluent areas. Nowadays, companies try to pay you this same wage and they just gaslight you if you point this out.

>>60768138
Go back to the cafe, Crystal.

>>60768109 (OP)
>time to crack the whip

>>60770646
Yeah, it really did used to be go to college, get a degree in anything, get a job making AT LEAST 30k starting (which was a decent amount of money back then), and you could climb the ladder to a decent middle class salary within a year or two. Entry level jobs existed, competition with the entire fucking third world didn't exist, and although women were in the workforce, there wasn't explicit discrimination against men: there were enough jobs to go around. H1B didn't even fucking exist until 1990, and for a long time it was very uncommon. After 2008, it started getting bad and boomers swarmed into entry level jobs, then as they retired out they were replaced with h1bs.

Things are EXTREMELY fucked up.

>>60770646
Boomers didn't even need college
High school graduates with zero experience and zero skills could easily land a job which provided good training and paid 60/hr in today's money...if you calculate the true inflation rather than the bullshit modern gov't numbers

>>60768109 (OP)
wow wages must be exploding then, right?
right?

>>60768109 (OP)
>here is why

Let me tell you why:

1) women voted for the stupid endless welfare state
2) women don't make families with men anymore
3) men are just staying at home living off welfare
4) B A S E D men

turn the matriachal system back against the women that spawned this aberration

no pussy no work
no pussy no paying taxes
no pussy no going to war

>>60768109 (OP)
>intentionally exclude the primary labor force from society
>noooo, you're supposed to still want to bend over backwards and work for less!
It's all so tiresome.

>>60770635
It really was. I miss 20 years ago like you wouldn't believe. The crazy thing is apparently the guys who remember thema the 90s were trash and that is the best time period I remember.

I can't speak for the Jewnited States of Muttmerica, but in my cunt a lot of those "men in their prime working years" straight up retired after the 2021 bull run. I had a lot of colleagues who either already had significant holdings of BTC and ETH, or made ridiculous amounts of money out of memecoins and buying and selling pictures during the NFT craze.

The other dominant investment here has been real estate so even for those that missed out of crypto, if they managed to buy housing before 2020 they've generally been able to leverage that into multiple investment properties. I have a few older (mostly guys in their late 30s onwards now) ex-coworkers that quit work entirely and now just live off the rental income generated by their property.

If you've hit your thirties in this country and you're not close to retirement... like how did you fuck up so badly?

>>60768109 (OP)
no because we have sand that thinks
we don't need normalfags anymore

>>60771184
they're not talking about rich people in these articles dude lol

>>60768109 (OP)
And are they backing up their argument with actual official stats, even tho does are suspect too nowadays
Or is this another vibecession where everybody lets their tds make market decisions for them

>>60770602
>>60770524
Technically the last months of 2007, so 2007.

>>60768109 (OP)
We are cooked.
>>60770524
The housing thing specifically makes me reminisce of 2008.