Thread 60775957

Before I had ever used onlyfans or fansly I had read a lot from here that if someone is a young attractive woman willing to do whatever it takes she will make lots of money.
I also saw studies saying the average creator on OF only makes 150$ a month but I assumed that was just because women were ugly or were not willing to do whatever guys told them to do (within reason) .
I've bought lots of custom videos and I can safely say this is all false. There's lots of young very attractive women who will do whatever you request and many of them charge very little money. I just looked at the least popular (least followers likes whatever) women on the platforms that were attractive. Not all of their accounts were new some had made their first post many months or more before.
Being an attractive young woman willing to do anything does not mean you have a free ride through life.

>>60775957 (OP)
>You can't just make something and people will buy it, you also have to effectively market it
who knew?

>>60775957 (OP)
I wish I knew which girls I grew up with had of

>>60775976
Yes I'm sure they'd make more money if they advertised BUT if all attractive women on OF willing to do anything advertised themselves well then some would still be broke. They can't all be rich right?

>>60775989
This is an excellent business idea anon

>>60775998
Some think just spamming twitter and reddit with tease images and links is good enough. But you're right, if all girls somehow equally got promoted and seen, people would gravitate towards the ones that filled some kind of niche. Like,
>she looks like she just turned 18
>she has double Ds
etc.

What is market saturation?

>>60776016
And the ones who don't fill that niche would still be in the exact same position as the ones I mentioned

...how much for a custom video...

>>60776032
I guess I assumed there was more men willing to buy cheap custom videos and chats from young attractive women willing to do whatever and I also assumed there wouldn't be so many very pretty women willing to sell a video like that for so so cheap.to be fair prices varied a lot among women from same countries same hotness same amount of followers etc

>>60776035
Yeah, with exceptions. Like, I don't think Amouranth is actually anything special, but she built a fanbase streaming first and was really good at marketing.

>>60776036
If I remember correctly the cheapest was 8$ and it was a few minutes long I had her re-create a tiktok dance YouTube link I sent her and told her to wear a bikini I'm sure I could've had her do it nude but I like scantily clad women more. She was very enthusiastic and a very very good dancer( definitely a stripper) she went above and beyond edited the music in and everything. To be fair that might have been because I was chatting with her and genuinely concerned about some old self harm scars I saw she had so I think she kinda liked me

>>60775957 (OP)
Onlyfans makes no sense to me. Infinite amounts of free porn avaliable online. You can see attractive and even stunning women doing anything you can think of. Why would you pay for an Onlyfans?

>>60776060
>>60775957 (OP)
I eventually deleted my account because I was spending too much money on it (I'm not rich (yet)) and I know how easily I can get addicted to this stuff.
I also felt bad for some of the girls. I know people will say they were all just liars trying to maximize profits but like one eventually told me stuff like that she had a boyfriend who wanted her to quit doing sex work or he wouldn't marry her and that she was not 18 like she was advertising but was actually older and in her twenties
Why would she lie like that if she was just trying to maximize profits

Also I bought from American women and women from poorer countries with less feminism. This is true in both

>>60776062
So you can chat with your waifu but really it’s a pajeet

>>60776062
That's like watching a movie vs playing a video game obviously it's interactive.
Chat bots and AIs aren't actually conscious so you're not actually causing them to feel anything by anything you say or do to them

>>60776072
I'm sure that's the case with really famous ones but definitely not with the smaller ones. Most are willing to send timestamped proof upfront before payment.

>>60776052
There's women so much prettier than her (face wise) with nicer bodies imo, younger, much kinder, more appreciative, much much cheaper and willing to do basically anything you want. Giving money to her has to be a mental illness

>>60775957 (OP)
I cant relate to any man who would pay for OF
Its just the case that the successful accts are money laundering. This is true for "real" businesses as well. Most are supported by money laundering

>young very attractive women who will do whatever you request

What will they do?

Asking for a friend.

>>60775957 (OP)
So what’s this girls account

>>60776383
I wonder what would happen if a really rich man messaged one of these women on onlyfans who isn't famous and hasn't made much money there yet and tried to send her tens of thousands of dollars in a short period of time. Wouldn't it get flagged? Or would she actually be able to cash it all out into her bank account that month?
>>60776402
I just had them do stuff like dance, order and try on various outfits, act like animals (mostly cats) and regular stuff like that but I'm sure I could've gotten them to do more. I had one dance for me for an hour straight for I think 150 dollars and I think she deserved every penny of it she seemed genuinely kinda pissed and I can't blame her seemed boring for her and exhausting even though she was seated she said she was sore afterwards I believe it. onlyfans fansly etc have limits about what you're allowed to do because payment processors won't allow a lot of stuff like anything involving most bodily fluids and some other stuff.

>>60776442
Pic related I have no idea. Otherwise it was multiple different women I remember some of their usernames but I won't post them here

>>60776445
>dance for me for an hour straight
>in a recorded video
I just don’t believe this, as an OF connoisseur I have never come across a girl that would do this and I honestly think you’re just telling lies for no reason, maybe autism or some other weird thing.

>>60776471
I'm almost certain she did. She sent me two thirty minute videos but she said it was an hour straight
After she recorded it it took a long time for her to send it she had to ask a friend for help.
I'm not lying don't know what to tell you

>>60776471
she was on fansly not OF idk if that matters

>>60775957 (OP)
>I've bought lots of custom videos
unless you're running a leaks website, you're fucking retarded

>>60776725
its called "market research" poorkid

>>60776052
looks like a plastic tranny doll. never understood how anyone could even coom, much less give it money.
>>60776092
this

>>60775957 (OP)
What's her name? She's beautiful

>>60775989
>I wish I knew which girls I grew up with had of
This is the only acceptable time I'd pay for porn. I only want to see nudes/porn of girls I know. It must be a dream to have hone to high school with a girl who turned out to be a pornstar years later

>>60776806
Alex Clark aka oreob4by, British thot. She was really hot years ago and then ruined herself with veganism like so many women.

you are all disgusting as fuck

>>60775957 (OP)
>Being an attractive young woman willing to do anything does not mean you have a free ride through life.

>>60776852
Thank you anon

>>60775989
Why would I pay for porn of 30 year old hags?

>>60776060
>so I think she kinda liked me
no, no she didn't. she liked your money and that's it. you sound like every pathetic john throughout history.

>>60776085
"Ma'am pls post timestamp on pic and mention username x and I will do the needful ma'am"

I would not mind OF whores if they were just whores. I message those sellers on reddit/tinder/grindr a lot and none of them want to outright meet and fuck for 2 hours for cash. They always ask what city I am in and coincidentally they are in the same city! Wow! But they can't meet because [REASON] but if you sub on their OF then they can chat ALL the time! Bonus points for "wow I'm so bored haha wish I could do something right now".

No, just go fuck a real whore at least you get your dick wet.

>>60776852
Does she open bobs?

>>60775957 (OP)
The money was coming from 6 figure salary tech bros, who are currently all losing their jobs to AI

>>60775957 (OP)
these whores are too dumb to market themselves. Their only value is spreading their legs and taking pictures.
There are however teams of e pimps who manage onlyfans accounts, with indians replying pretending to be the whore and they manage to make a killing from 100$ a month to 20k.
Neets could be doing this but they are neets losers so

>>60777097
>>60776069
How do you explain this then?
Her playing 4D chess?

>>60775989
>>60776013
>>60776816
>>60777086
Sorting by location would be ideal

>>60777342
As somebody who's also been able to get some of these women talking outside of the platform, they always, and I mean always, end up trying to milk you for money. It's all about the money, because that's the only thing whores care about. Stop being delusional.

>>60777377
maybe

OF is a MLM scheme just like Twitch.

The top of the pyramid are the actual employees / performers with contracts and everyone else is just a sucker below.

>>60777461
makes sense

>>60776060
>so I think she kinda liked me

Modeling must be hard because some of these girls are insanely beautiful

The answer to this is actually pretty simple. A girl's success on selling content isn't conditioned by her attractiveness, but rather the morbid attention she attracts. This morbo can be provoked by being someone who was a part of your past (lets say an actress you watched as a kid for example) or someone who provoked artificial morbid attention (ex. Sophie Rain). Attractiveness is not what matters the most, because you can watch extremely hot women for free on regular porn websites. If you don't provoke morbo, you don't reach success on onlyfans, no matter how hot you are.

>>60777723
So all they have to do is intimate a famous celebrity or call someone a slur at a playground?
I could believe they're just lazy or dumb and that's why they're broke, some of them sometimes took a really really long time to send me a custom video I had already paid for even though it was short and simple.

I remember when we had this shit for free in /soc/

>>60775957 (OP)
the smart girls send nudes to the OF marketing agencies and actually get their shit promoted, showing your tits doesn't mean you know how to run social media or price yourself to not make pennies a month

>>60775957 (OP)
Women have to be doing something interesting to really pop off. For some they build a more SFW following on twitch or whatever FIRST. Others have to be doing uniquely degen shit or have some super rare look.
>>60776060
Its the main tactic for these kinds of women to rope you in being nice. They typically view the client as something they're totally detached from emotionally and are just pretending. Often they even have a totally negative view of you just for the fact you're simping for them. Don't even fall into thinking they want more than money it'll just get you rinsed and potentially hurt you emotionally.

>>60777909
>Often they even have a totally negative view of you just for the fact you're simping for them.

So in general would they respect you a bit more if you're strict with them?
as in
>negotiating their prices for custom videos down
>ghosting them if they are being rude and making them eventually message you and say sorry
>Making them make customs they're uncomfortable making
>Making them call you sir
>telling them they're stupid, lazy, vapid, losers etc
>Threatening to get a refund/charge back and threatening to block them and not buy any more stuff from them if they don't redo (for free the second time) a custom they made which wasn't perfect. Possibly having them redo it a few times for free

onlyfans is owned by jews and pornography is immoral and kike subversion propaganda to destroy and enslave the young. If a girl is on OF she should also go to the firing squad. sieg heil motherfuckers, the new world order is here to fuck y'all up. Kikes, niggers, camelfuckers, pedos and gooks are all getting the axe up in this bitch.

>>60777957
how can you say pornography is immoral but not believe women on OF deserve some sort of second chance?
what's your standard for morality? Your arbitrary preferences? Why should we care about those

>>60777985
I didn't save any of the customs.
Well technically I did but I deleted them right after I downloaded them and I've got nothing now

>>60776062
I'm not a foodie so any food that isn't disgusting is equally fine by me.
Someone who's really into food has likely raised their standards to the point where if it's not perfect the exact way they like it, their enjoyment is drastically reduced.
The same applies to everything, including porn.
If you're a casual porn watcher, any non-extreme video of an attractive woman is going to do the job, but if you're a degenerate coomer miles deep into multiple spirals, you're too desensitized to regular stuff + your tastes have become much more narrow and specific so if it's not exactly the way you like it, you might not even get hard.
People who pay for porn are usually like this, because the free stuff just doesn't cut it anymore.
I vividly remember being in my teens to early 20s jacking off to trailers on brazzers.com and wondering "why would you ever pay when you can watch a shorter version of the video for free right on the official website?", and now that's much harder.

Sites like OnlyFans, Clips4Sale, etc are the only way some of the more degenerate coomers can find material good enough to bust to.
And even if it's not some weird degenerate fetish, the wide variety means that you're more likely to find that one girl that does it for you, when all the typical pornstars aren't arousing anymore.

Not saying it's the only reason, but it's a good part of it.

Reminder that if you watch porn you are a loser beating your own meat alone to a screen with pixels arranged in a way to arouse your monkey brain. Nothing but an animal catering to it's most basic primal needs. Go out in the real world.

>>60777494
photoshopping these dogs must be hard becuase some of these girls are ugly

>>60778068
>Nothing but an animal catering to it's most basic primal needs.

As opposed to what? Being handcrafted by god himself and going on an epic adventure to slay a dragon?

>>60776062
>Infinite amounts of free porn avaliable online. You can see attractive and even stunning women doing anything you can think of. Why would you pay for an Onlyfans?
Where do I find all the attractive and stunning women *not* stuffing 10 dicks up their ass? Onlyfans fills the softcore gap IMO (not that I use it)

>>60777969
it is extremely immoral
The industry is mostly funded on rape, groomind, abuse of drugged up life long rape victims.
Watching it is kinda gross and it quickly makes you wanna watch more and more weird shit.
Also masturbatin daily robs you of your energy.
Porn is 100% shit contributing to destroying society.
>t. havent' watched porn more than once or twice a year since a decade. I only do when i'm emotionally fucked up and need some thrill since i don't do drugs either

>>60777969
Could you please elaborate on why him thinking that porn is immoral should logically also mean that he should give those girls some sort of second chance?
I don't see the connection between the two things.

>>60778194
religion
>>60778173
well on OF a lot of the women are self employed

>>60778252
>religion
What if he doesn't share your beliefs?
It's always pointless to argue about things when the foundation of your points is belief. It makes everything you say boil down to "it's like this because I believe so", which doesn't work as an argument against anything that isn't also based on the same belief.

Most successful OF girls are paying men to manage them, they then outsource the labor to jeets. The top accounts are ran by jeet wagies who have to rate cocks and chat with simps all day.
The jeets spam their promo pics all over the web.
Girls are pretty lazy and lack the motivation to grind themselves

>>60778829
>Girls are pretty lazy and lack the motivation to grind themselves

this is actually the biggest red flag that amouranth is a male. she's got that sigma male grindset despite having already achieved unfathomable wealth

>>60778829
the top girls are so ugly
like this bitch
saw her naked
she was so ugly

Fetish only fans e.g feedees and ecelebs make the most money; not just some one of many hot girls

>>60776016
Wow...almost like preferences are a thing. Crazy.

>>60775957 (OP)
Thinking about starting one with my gf, any advice?

>>60780137
Maintain a second solo account just for you. This way when you guys break up you keep your solo account and can continue using it (you can even bring in a new gf to that account.)

>>60780137
>>60780243
degenerates

>>60779027
She's fucking sexy though

>Another esimp problem thread
>this many replies
>>60776859>>60776859

>>60776816
It's really not. Dakota James from Fairbanks alaska is from my home town. She wasn't in my class because she is younger but I know guys who had class with her and I've seen her walking around town when she visited home.
I've watched her use her asshole as bowl for cereal. It's not the dream you think it is.

>>60781087
>>60776816
>>60775989

hmm yeah it would feel like getting cucked because before the fantasies about her were only mine, but then the girl acts out the fantasy and sells it to everyone online without my permission

>>60776069
>I had an "abusive boyfriend" that was so mean that he refused to marry me if I didn't quit whoring myself to the world
This isn't profit-seeking behavior per-say. It's just women being women.

Imagine being a woman and selling your soul for a few hundred, at most a few thousand dollars.

The pictures will haunt them forever. If they ever start a family it’s inevitable that the pictures will find their way onto the school yard, and the children will be bullied mercilessly for having a whore mother

>>60781112
Your masturbating watching a girl you want to fuck, fuck another guy.
That's not "like" getting cucked. That's the definition of cucked lol.
You can escape this trap anon. You don't have to be a slave to masturbating. I have fapped to everything.... EVERYTHING. Legality doesn't matter when you know where to look.
Take it from someone who was at it for over 30 years. You can stop. I can teach you if you want.

>>60775957 (OP)
The profitable one are the one who knows how to market/advertise themselves. They also usually have an agency behind them doing all of that such as growing their socials, making virals videos for other platforms to pull in customers, etc. I know of people working in those kind of agency, basically poaching the girls and grooming them into the OF path. It's pretty sickening but... yeah

>>60776750
nah, bro is paying for free content lmao

>>60775957 (OP)
idk it seems like that playbunny agency is extremely profitable.

I think the issue is girls believed they could just post pictures and money would spawn, but they need marketing, structure, customer management.

The girls that do well, have an agency.

>>60776445
>Only Laundering

>>60776062
so you can meet them and fuck her since she's a prostitute (speaking for most accounts which have almost no views and are not too far from you)

>>60781087
>>60781112
Good point, anon. I guess it's bittersweet. You get to see her nude and take dick, but it's not your dick, and in the end up feeling cucked. Is there a way to masturbate to her without feeling cucked?


>>60781143
Teach me how to quit porn. I've been addicted for 20 years now. I can't stop, and it's ruining my life unironically. I need serious help

>>60775957 (OP)
>Being an attractive young woman willing to do anything does not mean you have a free ride through life.
Wtf, I no longer hate women and want to contribute to society now

>>60775957 (OP)
Sometimes I find it a little sad that many 17yo girls are really excited to turn 18 so they can create an account. I understand that the meta to make it has changed, but Is this really the only way? That I have to hold things like based pepe to survive, and that women have to create an OnlyFans account? That seems like cyberpunk bullshit to me

OF is UBI for women. Most sub-accounts are bots who are propping these whores with unlimited Cabal money, the aim is not profit but destruction of white society. OF was created by ukrainian Jew, in any normal society it would be never allowed to corrupt young women into whores.OF also grooms white women for porn which is also J-controlled. This is what you get in J-society - Weimar

OF was founded by jewish pornographer Leonid Radvinsky . Dude, started to spread pornography since he was 17

Leonid Radvinsky[a] is a United Kingdom-based[2] Ukrainian-American[3] billionaire businessman and computer programmer. He is the founder of the cam site MyFreeCams (through his holding company, MFCXY, Inc.),[4][5] and the majority owner of content subscription service OnlyFans.Radvinsky was born in Odesa and his family later emigrated to Chicago when he was a child.[6] In 2002, he graduated from Northwestern University with a degree in economics.[7][8] He is Jewish.[9]

In 1999, when Radvinsky was 17 years old, he helped incorporate Cybertania Inc., a website referral business.[6] During the late 1990s and early 2000s, Radvinsky developed more than ten websites such as Password Universe, Working Passes and Ultra Passwords that claimed and were advertised to provide users with "illegal" and "hacked" passwords to porn sites, where he earned money for every click

>>60783419
In Weimar there had underaged girls working on brothels, when you have Jews in society you have predators thay will pray on your women and turn them into whores for profit.

>>60775957 (OP)
An old coworker i had a crush on made an of for a few months
I gave her 5 bucks, saw her tits, had a few wanks and moved on with my life

One thing i noticed is how predatory it is in practice and why the top microcosm make so much money, all the money is in "private sets" and shit in private messages. So yeah i saw some tits and ass for 5 bucks, but i wasnt paying 50 to see her vagina