Thread 60781804

Collector Coin Discussion Edition

>Why precious metals?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo

>Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitable
https://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos

>Bullion dealers
https://libertycoin.com (US)
https://www.chards.co.uk (EU/UK)
https://www.silburycoins.co.uk (Ancient)
https://www.luciteria.com (Other rare metals)
more at:https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Numismatic search
https://www.ma-shops.com
https://en.numista.com/catalogue
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world

>News and graphs
https://numismag.com/en/home-en
https://silverseek.com
https://www.silverdoctors.com
https://www.mining.com
https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silver
https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com (US)
https://eu.compare.pm (EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle (DE/EU)

>Resources
https://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide
https://www.coinflation.com
http://coinapps.com
https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation
https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-minerals
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database

Previous Thread: >>60771442

>>60781619
Ouch that was more than i was expecting. I love collecting numismatic silver coins like my post >>60769625 (You) (Cross-thread) and want some Swiss, French, and German stuff for my collection.

we are over the target
fuck non-PM owning fagz

Reminder that if you'd bought Bitcoin a decade ago, you would have made around 400X (40,000%) on your investment. With gold, you've got maybe a 3X (200% gain) at best.

>>60781804 (OP)
>Collector Coin Discussion Edition
>
Coin, or round?

>>60781917
I'd prefer coin, but spectacular rounds are interesting too.

>>60781902
Lol you didn't buy bitcoin a decade ago either
People will be saying the same thing about silver in 2035. We're at 2010 levels of bitcoin as far as the buying value of silver goes

>>60781875
Yes you are, IQELITE has given you what, 10 action items of 50% to 150% gains in the last 20 months?

Proud of you boy for sticking your head up your ass to avoid free money,,,,,,,,,+55% in a month........lmao at you losers

And because you are butthurt he proved your pet rocks are an obvious scam you cuckblock your way to generational poverty?

>>60781957
Don't care gonna keep stacking gold and silver

>>60781957
You still haven't given me a good answer
What gives ETH its value?

its never get made, is it bros?

>>60781978
Probably nothing!

>Ethereum treasury company Bitmine Immersion plans to issue $20 billion worth of stock to buy more ETH

>Bitmine Immersion Technologies (BMNR) stock ended Tuesday's trading session up more than 5% after ethereum (ETH-USD) rose another 6% to trade north of $4,500 and the company announced plans to sell up to another $20 billion worth of stock to increase its holdings of the cryptocurrency.

>Bitmine, whose board is led by investor Tom Lee, announced Monday that its holdings of ETH stood at $4.96 billion, or a little over 1.15 million tokens, meaning the company owns roughly 1% of all tokens in circulation.

The company's goal is to eventually acquire 5% of the world's outstanding ETH tokens. Monday's news pushed the stock up more than 14%. The stock is up over 750% this year.

Newish to stacking pm’s I only have about 15 oz of silver (two five oz Buffaloes, and junk silver coins) and 1 oz of gold.

I picked up two oz Royal Tudor coin because it caught my eye in my LCS and I want the other coins that came out so far. I was talking with a guy who was in the shop and said if i’m just starting to focus of weight instead of getting specialty pieces. Should I get the other coins or just continue saving for heavier bars etc?

>>60781929
>I'd prefer coin, but spectacular rounds are interesting too.
Very few coins have ever been as beautiful as some unique rounds. I have a fondness for eagles, tho.

>>60782043
Apologizes for the spelling errors. I did not proof read my dumb run on sentences.

>>60782043
In general 1oz coins are the only coins you should get as usually the premiums on heavier coins and fractional silver makes them a poor investment choice in comparison. Heavier bars are a good choice though.

>>60781995
That one should be 50-50 electrum

>>60782022
So what does that accomplish exactly?

>>60782049
>Very few coins have ever been as beautiful as some unique rounds.
For standard gov't issue, I agree. For Cinderellas minted by firms and licensed by countries to avoid taxes, there are many.

>>60781995
todd will come through

>>60782054
Yeah the shop owner was heavily suggesting I didn’t buy it. Maybe one day I’ll complete the set. For now bars and one oz coins it is.

>>60782060
You have it all figured out!

>>60782043
>Should I get the other coins or just continue saving for heavier bars etc?
There are roughly two camps about what to get. I'm fond of coins as they have the advantages of potential additional numismatic appreciation above the metal content, and are more saleable in that coins are taxed differently depending what country you're in possibly avoiding taxes altogether. I am buying the Tudor series even though I am a bit reticent - it's kind of a remake of the Queen's Beast series, and remakes make me fee like it's cheap - a copy - and I'm being played by someone who lacks imagination.
But you're jumping into this series in the middle. Which beast did you get?

>>60782120
Bull of Clarence

>>60782078
Todds Garbage? Doesn't sound very trustworthy but he does own /pmg/ which convinced yall to embrace generational poverty by not buying crypto, so he has that going for him. Kektop!

>>60782120
Truly hideous,,,,,,is that part of the Todds garbage series?

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>>60781804 (OP)

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>>60782157
This honestly doesn't come as much of a surprise, the smaller a piece of Silver is, the more liquid it is. A kilobar will cost a shop a lot more to buy than a 1 oz round and will take a lot longer to sell (and sell for far less of a premium over spot).

>>60782183
I think it makes sense too. I'm going to just try to focus on low premium 1 oz coins for a while. The premiums even seem better on them than bars right now.

>>60781804 (OP)
Oh man...I just saw it. My ID.
Fffuuu....

>>60782043
I'm all about sovereign coins. I generally buy tubes, though these singles are nice. Coins are nice because you get the spot plus a little extra when selling to LCS. Rounds, you get slightly less than spot when selling to LCS. Since I'm in this for the long term, I don't really care. I will get the best price for what I have.

On the other hand, there is an argument for getting rounds. You won't get spot plus [whatever], though you WILL get more silver in total. The question becomes: do you want raw quantity or do you want each individual item to be of the highest value? That's a question that only you can answer. I've made my choice. For me it's coins over rounds. I say this as someone who owns more rounds than coins. Take me with a grain of salt and understand that you will likely change your mind at some point. Which is fine. I have changed my mind and many others have as well. It's not a big deal. Above all else, just remember this: ALWAYS BE STACKING.

>>60782120
Show us an example of this kind of Todds Garbagesque stuff having any numismatic value?

>>60782150
Third in the series of 7 so far. I think there will be three more? Maybe 4. Queen's Beasts series of ten didn't have a panther.

Up 8% today after being up 50% over the last month,,,,,,Blackrock and others buying $billions,,,,,lmao, but sure, your garbage rocks are super duper valuable because the coin merchants that sold them to you for valuable fiat $ say they are!

I hate the new ASE and AGE reverse designs.

>>60782541
Me too anon, when I bought my most recent AGE, I asked the shop owner what dates he had before comitting to buy one (if he only had new reverses, I would've gotten a Maple instead).
It's so ridiculous how the new designs remove all the symbolism of the old ones, the original AGE had a family of eagles building a nest, symbolic for how the coin was meant to be used, and the new reverse is just an eagle head with no symbolism whatsoever. The old ASE reverse wasn't the best, but its design still inherited the symbolism from the Seal it was based off of while the new design (the eagle with the clipped wing) seemingly has negative symbolism.

>>60782566
>muh commodity needs a special design

Lmao more proof these retards don't care about profits

>>60781946
Actually, I did. I started buying in 2014 and finished buying in 2016.

Same guy you replied to, BTW. Not sure if my ID will be the same since I'm on mobile.

>>60781929
I have to admit, I do like coins with tits on them.
I'd pay good BTC for some Mila Azul gold coins.

Is it possible that there are a bunch of counterfeits that are pure gold/silver plated and a >95% pure alloy filling in order to make a small amount of profit fooling tests like xrf or sigma metalytics? If not, why?

>>60783131
https://web.archive.org/web/20120120214543/http://blog.davidlawrence.com/index.php/mercury-dimes-ch-4-counterfeit-altered-coins/
Apparently the Soviets sort of did this back in the 30s and 40s with US Silver coins, but those coins contained the full amount of Silver.
In the modern era it wouldn't really be profitable to do this with Silver (5% less silver only saves $1-2 per coin), but it might be for Gold. The hard part would be getting high enough quality dies so that your counterfeit wouldn't look like a counterfeit. The profit margin might just be too thin once die costs are factored in, though an official mint (or someone with access to the official dies) could easily do it.
I don't think any examples of this sort of counterfeit have been found though, so it's impossible to say if they exist or not.

Huge buy orders at 6:30 finna be another great day of HYUGE gains and seething

Lots of new millionaires finna be minted frfr on G_d. Welcome to the club

Why are the shills not allowed to say God? Only jews fear their master and try to get people to buy imaginary assets.

The secret is who ever has the most physical weight in investments wins. Keep stacking and dont worry about the fiat musical chairs, with gold and silver you have a whole couch. Rest easy while the music comes to a stop soon after the infinite crypto/stock/401k glitches gets rugpulled. IQ loves trump so much he took the trump covid vaccine and the graphe oxide in those shots allows him to be remote controlled by 5G. Lol what a loser. Remember Jesus is king and only gold and silver are real money.

>>60783508
>remote controlled by 5G
That's flat earth tier levels of retarded.

>>60783508
Yep you are winning with your rocks, lmao

I finally got a mod to do something. Except he banned me for flagging offtopic/autospam/trollingoutisdeB. Well done!

Who watches the watchers

If you just zoom out, you'll see a generational type move coming in Silver.

This is where fortunes are made

>>60783639
There's a huge glut of silver fren, it's never going up, your chart is dumb because inflation adjusted silver is down 70% from 1980, maybe the next move is back to $12. Meanwhile crypto alts are going up 10% or more every day. Lmao rocks? Really? No one wants physical garbage anymore

>>60783639
That coupled with the half decade of silver mining to production deficit, it's going to go up in fiat price rapidly.

There's not only 43 billion ounces of refined silver sitting around but another 5 billion added every decade. No shame in y'all admitting you got scammed

However, psychologically scam victims seem to side with the scammer that's why pmg worships peter Schiff and Rafi

>F5 F5 F5

You're so desperate it reeks! Remember you're here forever. A slave in the system.

I have been DCA since 2000. Look at your cherry picked charts again.

#winning

Why are people who dont understand Ultra Low frequency mind control and graphene coupling saying that this stuff is not real, it's very real. Looks at the patents for distributed 5G towers that with phase modulation can couple with other towers to create ULF electromagnetic emissions that couble with the alpha, beta, delta brainwaves from 3 to 8 hertz or so.

I don't have any rocks except for the one in my front yard landscaping. I do own piles of raw elemental metals such as gold, silver, copper, tellerium and palladium but those are no rocks, those are pure bullion. And yes im doing well coverting the crypto profits into tangible assets.

What do rich Swiss people who poop in the street spend their realized gains on? Clearly not houses with running water and toilets... you enjoy your digital 1s and 0s, I'll enjoy rubbing my pure earth elemental metals.

Nothing to see here. This is perfectly normal and sustainable

Why are the tampings getting so limp wristed now?

>>60783923
(((They))) are losing control friend :)
sit back and enjoy
God’s money will come back to the forefront for fair use and those patient enough to accrue while the masses use Satan/Mammon/Maya’s currency will rue the day

Up 100% since this article was published.

Imagine listening to anyone who doesn't hold gold or silver.

>>60784036
On September 20, 2022, the price of gold closed at $1,675.33 per ounce

>>60781804 (OP)
Hello, not a regular on /biz/ but I need advice.
My country is selling cool DC comics 10€ silver coin at 15€ each but the purity of silver is only 333/1000, are they still worth it as an investment or should I look something else?

>>60784060
Silver isn't an investment in any form and certainly not a marvel shitcoin

Sold my silver ETF yesterday and bought more ETH and its already up 10% $4000 profit

Thinking about selling pmgs favorite platinum miner sbsw I've got a 170% gain,,,,,yall did buy right???? Right?

>>60784060
I desire a reasonably priced numismatic coin to purchase

>>60784060
those are for collecting and fall into numismatics versus bullion catagory

i wouldnt start with coins for numismatic value unless its a series you think is really cool. youre better off buying gold or silver that is easily recognized

>>60784102
you did none of this. you simply larp about buying the largest popular gains using hindsight. if bitcoin went up a bunch this past week instead of crabbing like it has for the past 6 months youd be celebrating your supposed bitcoin gains. now, ethereum is up as folks are playing hot potato and you strut around like you accomplished something

you dont own any securities, or enough to be impressive, otherwise you would post screeshots and wouldnt samefag hard as shit in this general

>>60783639
>>60783791
this

>>60782157
did he call jmbullion, sdbullion, or apmex? they will buy closer to spot but can take time to deal with them i believe. ive sold silver at spot or just under it to shops depending on the shop. at worst i get offered 10% below spot

>>60784145
:)

>>60784126
Ah, thank you, I didn't know there was a difference.
Guess I'll just buy a copy of the two WW ones and look into something else.
Thank you again.

>>60784188
ya dude

for coins, i really like silver phil harmonics. they just look neat and they are a bit smaller in circumfrence and fatter than other coins/rounds. i really enjoy 5 and 10 oz bars too in silver

for gold, i buy 20 franc coins or sovereigns or 2 rand coins almost exclusively.

>>60784211
I'm not huge on Phillys because they are ridgeless and chonk. I still have a few though just because they piss off the ecb

>>60784235
silver krugs are cool but i just like the phils for some reason. i like the aussie roos too but perth mint got caught being a little fucky with the chinese

>>60781946
How far will silver actually go, and does it matter since the USD is merely inflating over time? Like I know silver will go higher but will it be WORTH more. Or maybe I am comparing it to dollars and that is wrong. What will silver be worth like actually assuming the USD fails or even if it doesn't fail will it be worth more in terms of usefulness than it currently is. Like fwtdhwatqad tier or will it at least be able to be used in supermarkets like how Venezuela was/is?

I myself have a small stack but I have friends that have well over 3k or more ounces. Of shtf or silver goes up monumentally I am invited to stay on their land in exchange for a silver fee. But this is as speculative as crypto is, I'm not entirely sure what will happen. I have a brain but my ability to determine what exactly this shit-ass global government is trying to do escapes me.

>>60781804 (OP)
Where do you guys find the best deals on Latinum? I was going to wait for the next dip but I think the federation trade wars will continue to put upward price pressure on the market, so I’m planning to load up this week.

sold out here now too

>>60784211
Duly noted, thanks again.

>>60784313
just take 5% of your takehome pay and buy gold or silver with it. pick a product that you like and dont hyperfocus on price. over time, you will have a pile worth more than you paid for it

>>60782541
I hate the new designs too.

>>60784142
Lmao, i often announce my buys and sells.i guess it hurts your feelings to see me get huge gains on everything i buy, the purchase mentioned here on July 11 and 12th is up 55-68% in just over a month that plus a few more bits i bought just after is up over $30,000 in ONE MONTH now you can make up some new excuse to protect your ego. Look at the one month chart bob. Thats just one of my investments Bob,,,,,watch and learn

>>60784313
>Like I know silver will go higher

Because Peter sfhiff said so?
Lmao,

>>60784060
>are they still worth it as an investment

No.

>>60783131
The density of gold makes it very difficult to counterfeit. Only tungsten has the same density and it is radically different in every other way. First of all, tungsten is very hard. A normal die could not even begin to stamp a coin design into it. Even if you could somehow produce a tungsten coin and gold plate it, a Sigma would detect it instantly. Even a ping test would reliably reveal the fraud in the case of a coin. In the case of ingots, you might be able to bury some tungsten into the middle of it. But that is a problem for banks, not me.

You could match the density of silver with alloys, stamp them and plate them. But it still will not pass a sigma test or ping test because they detect what is under the surface. But, as with gold, you might be able to bury some cheap alloy into a large silver ingot. Not really worth the effort at the current price, but someday maybe.

Buying from a reputable dealer makes the process virtually fool proof.

On the other hand, numismatic fakes are a pretty big problem. It requires real expertise to detect a good numismatic fake. Again, not my problem as I don't collect coins for numismatic value.

>>60784353
>favorite metals group platinum
hmm, a stolen screenshot

you are such a massive faggot

>>60783426
I wonder how big of a stack one would need in order to be considered one of those.

>>60784407
yeah the only practical way to fake shit is with giant bars and putting a shitty metal in the middle. just don't buy big bars

Just got this little 5gram bar after seeing them in some stack pics here. These are nice in hand.

>>60784431
Depends on how badly they fuck up.

>>60784333
Okay but will they be able to buy a house like Phil Low and other people say? Or will homes also be priced in to be like millions and silver worth like a thousand. Obviously industrial demand is way higher than reported so I know silver is probably going to be manipulated even ten years from now. It's the nature of the beast we live with.

>>60781804 (OP)
And this is new Gold of the Pharaohs from the Magic of Gold series.
Excellent coin:)

>>60781856
Fucking based

If we go Weimar or Zimbabwe mode then everyone will be a millionaire, but it won’t feel like it because that’ll be how much a months worth of groceries cost.

At that point they’ll probably just start airdropping fedcoin into your wallet via fednow.

>>60784480
>will my silver purchases allow me to secure a house
probably not, especially considering that the get a house you pretty much have to go through their banking system where everything is itemized and accounted for. so unless you were to sell your silver at 5% less and then report it vis-a-vis paying capital gains tax its a very myopic way to purchase a home

purchasing physical gold and silver allows you to have effectively a big boy savings account not tied to the financial system. it does not translate into todays economy in many forms when you have to have a 3rd party arbiter (government) making sure you pay as much as possible to the bankers. purchasing anything with perpetual debt tied to it (taxes, upkeep, etc.) is going to be the antithesis to stacking metals

if you want to save, employ a 10-10-10 method and forget about it. 10% into physical metals, 10% into stocks, 10% into another asset class or securities vehicle such as crypto, guns, forex, whatever you like

>>60784531
I mean I can understand that. So what do I need for crypto without being tracked to shit or at least minimally. I get that you need a ledger and an exchange but I haven't touched crypto in like 8 years when I sold when it was lukewarm gains on coinbase but now I see that is a shit exchange

>>60784531
cringe

yes, silver will buy you a house
no, do not invest in the overvalued stock market (definitely not US stocks anyway)

>>60784477
It's inevitable. They exact when is the unknown.

>>60782541
>>60782566
Tangentially, I also hate the new quarters.
The mint now has George Washington turning his back on God.
If I recall correctly, it's "Liberty" that occupies the highest point in the design.
They know what they're doing.
And I see it.

>>60784600
>overvalued stock market
This. The value of the stock market is 2x the US GDP. That's why Warren Buffet sold so much stock recently.

>>60784652
the number of americans investing in the stock market is also at all time highs
you don't wanna be in the herd when the culling happens

Current fondler

>>60784594
crypto=stocks

its the same game now, except instead of companies you are investing in promises. its just another tier to the derivatives scheme

>>60784678
love that design
they knew how to make coins back in the day

>>60784600
>silver will buy you a house
you have to change the silver into USD in a bank account first unless you can find that one eccentric seller who will outright trade. the bankers have fixed the game so you have to play with their gov approved tokens. that means converting silver into USD (and any amount over $5k is reported) and paying capital gains tax because fuck us thats why

stock market is overvalued, as is most everything else. you can choose to be sidelined and yeet everything into one asset class which is stupid; or you can pick conservatively and spread your risk around.

us companies largely overvalued because we are service/information based economy. they are overvalued because they have fewer assets than manufacturing or logistics firms. >but american companies suck
ive done very well with big tobacco stocks. my picks are altria, BTI and philip morris. all 3 have at least 40% or more within a year; and the dividends.....talking 8-9% with quarterly pay into a DRIP, that there is fucking comfy. i backed american because i am american. our gov sucks and the market is rigged but i invest in big tobacco for a few reasons
-they own the fields and plants and advertisement firms
-tobacco is a physical american product
-its americas oldest export and we dominate the tobacco farming
-big tobacco is evil and they will make it

spread risk around 10-10-10 is simple

>>60784743
>you have to change the silver into USD in a bank account first unless you can find that one eccentric seller who will outright trade. the bankers have fixed the game so you have to play with their gov approved tokens. that means converting silver into USD (and any amount over $5k is reported) and paying capital gains tax because fuck us thats why
so? paying tax on profit means you can't buy stuff? what is your point
we're going to $1000oz+

>>60784752
i sure hope so but one of the reasons to own metals is to avoid taxes, not invoke them on the back end so hand wringers at the IRS can flick their bean in delight at stealing money for uncle sam

>>60784784
yeah paying taxes to uncle sam sucks but you still gotta live ur life

>>60784676
>you don't wanna be in the herd when the culling happens
>>60784692
>its just another tier to the derivatives scheme
Yep!

>>60784743
Assumes the USD survives in its current form. This is certainly a false assumption, although the timeline for its demise is unpredictable (with my information anyghmpwway).

>>60784703
I came here just to inform you retards of this smoking deal. At spot ASEs anytime of the week, this is absolutely an obligatory slurp. However, it is available ONLY today.

>>60781825
>want some Swiss, French, and German stuff for my collection
Add italian to your wishlist, and you get the quadrifecta of nice vintage silber from the 1800-1900s.

>>60784790
thats literally what i was saying about spreading your risk around in buying assets. you dont have to save everything in one pile for one purpose. stacking silver/gold is great but not to buy a house with specifically

>>60784821
>unpredictable
which is why you should spread the risk around with the 10-10-10 or a similar method

Lots of copium from pmg baggies, lmao remember folx long term returns on silver are .5% with many decades in the negative, lmao yall wasted your one life waging for garbage rocks

>"yall wasted your life"
>posts same regurgitated lines 50x per thread
>does so for years

Ironic. You're a slave to these threads.

>>60784987
the shirt lmao

>>60784987
I can walk away from /pmg/ any time
He can't

>>60784323
Mine should arrive today, if all goes well.
USPS has been really flaky lately.

>>60784489
>>60784502
Very pretty. Smooth edge?

look what arrived yesterday!

P.S.
1 turkish lira = 0.02 US dolla

>>60784904
I think you have it backwards. Because the timing of the inevitable collapse of the debt bubble is unpredictable, it is, in my opinion, a fool's gamble to invest in doomed assets like stocks and commercial real estate hoping to make gains and jump ship just before it hits the iceberg. It's not impossible, but there are people with more inside information than you will ever have that will always beat you to the lifeboats. So good luck with that. I have better things to do with my life than watch charts and follow the news everyday hoping to time the exit. For me, it is better to store my wealth in an asset I KNOW will survive the collapse of the USD. That means PMs, my home, my vehicles, guns and ammo, etc. And then get on with living.

>>60784703
Expert timing. I wanted $77.00 flat. I don't count the shipping and handling jew with my PMs purchases.

>>60782071
>there are many.
Coins, by definition, though, are specie, are they not?
It's my understanding that without a decree by a government of denomination of value it by definition is not coin.

>>60785210
Well you should because that alone just added a $4usd premium to each coin. Kind of thankful i live in a big city and can ride around to different coin and pawn shops.

>>60785210
>I don't count the shipping and handling
IMHO, that's a huge oversight. I've made a total of 150 orders where shipping was charged, and that totaled $805.

>>60785165
Yes. That's the only thing I like less about kinda minimalist the smoothe edge.

All i did was prove that silver is a scam,,,,,,lmao it set off an inferno of rage from silver scam victims,,,,,ive harnessed that energy to make

148% gains on bitcoin in 1 year rolled into
178% gains on sbsw in 8 months
82% gains on Barrick gold
93% gains on newmont mining
59% gains on ETH in one month

Kektop! Plus some small double digit gains on minor holdings. Lmao thanks pmg! And thats just the last 20 months I've been doing it since i started pmg

>>60785210
>I don't count the shipping and handling jew with my PMs purchases.
Even when it amounts to 9.4% of the purchase here?
So much for paying spot lmao

>>60785210
>>60785210
>I don't count the shipping and handling with my PMs purchases.

Lmao, pmg doesn't even count 74% premiums

>>60785220
>can ride around to different coin and pawn shops.


Lmao, and you don't count your time, gas or wear and tear....stacking garbage rocks is the worst investment of all time

>>60785213
>without a decree by a government
That is my understanding as well. Whether they can be used as coinage is another question, even if very stupid to do so.
There was a story circulating about the one-kilo Queen's Beast Completer coin. Its face value is 500, and when silver dropped so low that face was more than content, a guy tried cashing his in and the banks refused it. Alas, I did not screen cap the postings (not from here), so I have to confess this is now just hearsay.

>>60785296
Here in Canada the face value of most silver and gold coins are so low in comparison to their weight in precious metals it would never be worth cashing them in. A silver maple is $5cad face value and a gold maple is even worse at $50cad face value.

>>60785310
The government doesn't that so they can legally confiscate them and only compensate you $1 or $5

>>60785310
Exactly so. This is true for *all* bullion coins that I can think of. There must be exceptions, but I just don't know of any.
In the stamp collecting world, similarly issued stamps are called "Cinderellas." They have a postage, but the issuing country won't accept them to mail a letter. They were made strictly as fund raisers.

>>60785210
add in a twin maple or a couple wieners to get free shipping

Well, I did it again ...

A bunch of nearly fifthy silver coins for almost 9oz at -26,42% premium bought at flea market again.

The Elisabeth II jubilee silver coin at -63% premium.

I didn't even spend half of my budget I'd allowed.

>>60785332
oh noes, the gubbermint is gonna come door to door to every house in the country and take our coins by gun point. i am so so worried about this

>>60785420
Obviously you are, yall paranoid about 2.7% inflation which yall call hyperflation "muh world is collapsing i buy retard rocks from the government i hate and pay them huge premiums for their logo"

>>60785418
Sell them and show us receipts,,,,lmao we have never seen a pmg baggie make a profit

>>60785248
m8, we live in America. Just getting in your car to buy a small black coffee already evaporated 10 doll hairs. I'm not losing sleep over shipping & handling. Although I am curious as to how much it has totaled over time, probably won't be much considering I usually buy $500 and up.

I got rich by buying silver.

>>60781995
needs to happen.

>>60785220
>>60785248
>>60785476
If anything, what has raped me harder is the tax jew on some purchases. FL had a $500 limit and my inexperienced ass wasn't aware of this early on during my stacking journey. Only recently was that filthy tax removed. Some states are really bad though, like Commiefornia.

>>60785521
fuck off, porn deviant

>>60785476
Lmao, none of you track your losses thats why you are all perma wagies

>2.7% inflation
You have to be a total moron to trust the government as well as the media reporting on that.

>>60785542
You're using a hentai imageboard, fellow deviant, stop acting retarded.

>>60785546
>i don't trust the government
> posts government inflation data

Lmao, no wonder pmg baggies are poor

>>60785556
This is a blue board

>worthless rocks
>the government will confiscate them

Great logic you got there. Almost like you've deleted your iq

>>60785695
The rocks aren't worthless, lmao because they keep your poor crying in your basement, thats their purpose

>The government doesn't that
>they keep your poor cryin
>,,,,,,,,,,

You are a third worlder and lost the moment you were born. Don't you have some used condoms to collect?

>>60781929
>An Owl
Beware owning bullion covered with their symbolism lads

>>60785210
ended up going with

>>60781804 (OP)
S tier:
actual country, franchise makes sense ( for example Finnish Moomin coin, Russian Nu Pigodi coin)
A tier:
Niue or some shitty island, but coins with this intellectual property are extremely rare OR this coin is the very first coin with this intellectual property
B tier:
common franchise (most common are disney ones, I think), Niue etc, but coin itself is beautiful or interesting
Normal tier:
literal junk silver
Shit tier:
ugly Niue coins for popular (in coin making) franchises

>>60786023
Lmao $150? Why bother? Bob doesn't roll out of bed for less than $1000, i don't invest for less than $40,000

>>60785873
You saying this goes all the way back to ancient Greece?

>>60786082
No that came from a museum gift shop its a repro

>>60785296
>and when silver dropped so low that face was more than content, a guy tried cashing his in and the banks refused it.
Ironically enough, I know how governments and banks assume authority that belongs to neither of them, and many fall for listening to either of them.
It's much easier to self govern, and self bank and exceed both local, state, and federal institutions. This story, hearsay or not, matters little because it's happening every day, everywhere, in every-way imaginable. Line go up, line go down, tp on shelves, no tp for the bunghole, coffee not tariffed, coffee 17 fedbux a pound. I'm pretty sure from my decades of experience that it's best to just be grateful for having what you need, and especially grateful for having abundance beyond that of useful resources that is useful to provide for needs, my own, and others who I may be able to help.
Then there's beyond that, to have opulent and exquisite things of beauty and value, which inspire and motivate productivity and passion. This is evidence of immense blessing, but since beauty is truly in the eyes of the beholder, it varies greatly from one individual to another.
The old saying, "One man's trash is another man's treasure," surely comes to mind. There's many things that I value that very few others do. One of those things is understanding, especially of truth or what and what is not true. I abhor the NIV version, but this verse in the KJV is rarely understood, so I keep it handy for just such occasions. Pic related.
Coining words of truth rather than conning words of lies in a thing of beauty to me. So thank you.

>>60786151
Now I'm hungry.

>>60783610
jannies are trannies, can only gibs bannies
>jannies and iq-delete: tongue nigger anus
inb4 a bag of onions and a cup of uncooked rice as some weird 3rd world flex…

>>60785418
Neat:)

>>60786312
Is the Frieren coin still planned?
Haven't heard about it in a while.

>>60786101
>Sorry, the requested media could not be found. It may have expired or been deleted.

>>60785210
Imagine some jew fondling and licking the silver as he tearfully packs it and ships it for his goyim

>>60786613
sorry, you'll have to wait till i get annoyed again

>>60785260
What gives bitcoin and ETH their values?

>All these coins are the same size and composition
Which one has the best design?

>>60787332
US quarter. Because 'Merica.

>as low as

Not low enough ffs

>>60787394
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>60787394
>>60787404
I wonder why it's so much more in Canadian dollars. It should be CAD 1,870. ?

New arrival

>>60784987
>saaar I am swiss guy
kek. good one anon

>>60787315
holy shit dude. 3rd thread in a row you keep giving him you's asking this question. HE IS A TROLL. HE IS HERE TO RAGE BAIT. are you retarded or what?

>>60787437
One is a five oz the other is one oz

>>60787482
>HE IS HERE TO RAGE BAIT
Apparently I am too ;)

>>60787546
Great stuff.

>>60787456
>gives indirect attention to the troll
>>60787482
>rages at a troll trolling the troll
Shut the fuck up no-stack

>>60786312
>Zero watchers
Seeing shit like this honestly makes me concerned about the resellability of my meme coins in the future.
Like seriously, what if l want to sell my Aputannia in the future only to find out that nobody gives a shit about it like this?

>>60787449
You went for it! I’m curious how many more ships we will see. This about as far as any other sovereign ship series has made it, but collectible series seem to be more in vogue these days and they certainly haven’t run out of subject matter

>>60787332
Balboa bro

>>60787648
Apputania is the only pmg round that has a chance of retaining any premium, all the rest are gonna sell for melt

>>60787648
the anime ones are clearly not as good.

>>60783923
Because it's much harder to tamp it down when you play against large players. It was easy to control back when they were only fighting retail's longs and back when Asia was too scared to hit back.

But now we live in a different world. China's SHGE isn't afraid to price silver spot continuously higher than the comex/LBMA, forcing Wall Street to answer back to avoid all their vaulted reserves to bleed to death, since traders will inevitably try to bank on the arbitrage. Same goes with worst Korea, who don't have a pricing index yet, but are shortcircuiting the market by purchasing only ore, draining the mines before their silver even has a chance to go on the open market.

Overall the weak tampings comes from a new macro economic reality where it's now Asia dictating the tempo and the "western empire" struggling, trying to overuse old coercive tactics to control the markets who do not have the impact it used to. Especially (almost exclusively) the US, the abuse of sanctions and dollars restrictions led to this lack of trust.

>>60787648
One is Apu and the first memeround ever crafted by 4chan.
The other is Megumin.
Nobody gives a shit about a soulless personae from a mediocre (like, it's really bad fr no cap) anime. If in the future you want to get a coin who will remind you of your 4chin years (too bad you're here forever lol), will you purchase an Apputania or a Megubin?

>>60787648
Also it's collectively our fault. We give our coins zero visibility, even semi-regulars here don't even know when a coin is being made over half the time.
People don't even know those exist. If you want to see a bigger premium, you gotta post your mintanon coins on every board you usually go. Each time you'll post one you'll get at least few (you)s asking you wtf is this. Just few months of /pmg/ posting their memecoins on /pol/ who raise up the premiums by x3. Factual. So do it.

*would raise

Is the cheesed to meet you round going to be delivered before Thanksgiving?

>>60787791
Thanksgiving 2026 you mean? Unlikely.

>>60787652
>You went for it!
Yeah.. maybe next year I'll catch it when it's at dealers, rather than taking it in the shorts off ebay.

>>60787744
>the first memeround ever crafted by 4chan
Not sure about that.
Kiwi Farms came out with the Chris Chan round at about the same time, and maybe just before.
But no contest it was the first /pmg/ round.

>>60787838
glad you posted it updated, that's a clean job anon, saving it.

>>60787648
Didn't these things sell for $50 originally? Once Silver spot breaks $50/oz you'll be in the green on these coins even if there's no market for them.
That being said, the Aputannia's always going to command a hefty premium because it was first, before any of the other pmg rounds, before any of the /mlp/ rounds and IIRC before the Kiwifarms round.

>>60787853
ANAL-ysts are saying silver has reached its sealing for 2025 and it will hold at 39$. Still expecting it to outperform gold in 2026 and reach 50$, now if the stockmarket bootlickers are saying this there is a high chance the economy is getting nuked soon. I trust the autist Michael Burry more than any of these ANAL-ysts

>>60787919
>its sealing
Ceiling

>>60787928
Thanks, I did feel something was off when I typed it.
>Certified dyslexic

>>60787976
I did learn rehypothecation is correct and rehypothesize is incorrect here recently.

>>60787744
I chose the Megumin

>>60788016
Interesting fact the coins minted by the old monarchies had slogans such as "Empowered by the love of my people" thinking about it now it makes sense why the banks couldn't topple them using normal means. The bane of a king is when his own people turn against him.

>>60787744
The yotsuba one?

>>60788038
I'm fine with this, as long as you admit Konosuba is a bad animu.

>>60787919
>>60787853
More cope from the silver scam victims,,,,,everyone else already got rich from good investments (including the coin merchants who sold you that garbage)

>>60787456
>>60787482
And you can't stop crying and lying about the Swiss guy whose investments keep magically going up,,,,lmao they are up again this morning $$$$$$,,,!why dont you stop talking about him?

>>60785443
How does it feel to be made fun of by everyone in this thread and your precious butt corn?

Ahahahahaha

>>60787775
>Also it's collectively our fault for not shilling and spamming it everywhere nonstop

Lmao, good job realizing you got ripped off

>>60788317
You have it all figured out,,,,,lmao you see whats up 3.6% today to a new all time high while your garbage rocks go nowhere? ......lmao you would be rich like me if you hadn't listened to Peter schiff

>>60783751
>Gold and silver used as currency long before your bitch ass existed.
Brother history shows that in the end gold and silver will always be important points of value. If silver went to $12 that just means more buying for me anyways. I have an attention span much longer than your tiktok brain so I'm not buying silver for short term holding.

It's wild that this faggot has been keeping this up for close to 3 years now

>>60788317
i purchased ribeye from the grocery store last week for 8.99 a pound kek. that pic must be from california or something

>>60788417
> i will Keep waging to buy rocks until i drop dead i dont care if i lose money the coin merchant said I'm smart to keep giving him my money


Holy canoli this place is a cult. I feel bad when i lose money and try not to make the same mistake. Last month I'm making $3000 to $7,000 almost everyday, today over $11,000 hope you get better fren

>>60788447
The only explanation is he's getting paid for it and lacks the intellectual capacity to properly invest his income to give himself some time off

>>60787648
I only collect bars but
>149$
No thanks.

>>60788462
Yep, one from Kansas the other from Alaska. It's amazing how idiots question nothing and honestly when your making $thousands a day from investment gains why cry about delicious steak for $16 a pound

>>60788464


>>60788464
>The only explanation

Yep thats the only explanation you have it all figured out,,,,,,,,,,lmao

All the other explanations are too sad to contemplate

Some new Royal Mint coins. Yet again, it's the ridiculously overpriced proof versions.

>>60788617
Some art.

And never forget. Inflation is modern day coin clipping.

>>60787851
Thanks - good to know it has utility other than calming my autism.

>>60788599
will there be a bu version of this?

>>60788592
>Yet again, it's the ridiculously overpriced proof versions.
How much are these guys? Do they have purity, metal, and weight stamped anywhere?

>>60788656
I don't think so.

>>60788668
Unable to find out, as it appears they've all sold out apart from the 1/10th oz gold coin.

https://www.royalmint.com/shop/limited-editions/the-four-nations/the-four-nations-2025-1-10th-oz-gold-proof-coin/

>>60788563
Yall saw me do this in real-time and what is happening now,,,,,,OMG! The last month should be another wake up call but honestly yall can't handle the truth so double down on rocks it is, you could accurately say I've ruined lots of your lives by proving silver is a scam its entirely possible you would have figured it out on your own if i hadnt

148% gains on bitcoin in 1 year rolled into
178% gains on sbsw in 8 months
82% gains on Barrick gold
93% gains on newmont mining
59% gains on ETH in one month

dubs confirm he’s a faggot

Jewelry > bullion
Jewelry can't be confiscated.
You can wear Jewelry to attract bitches
Coins are for incels and old boomers.
Jewelry is harder to fake
Jewelry such as chains and bracelets are far more divisible, in hard times you can sell off individual links.
Normies trust Jewelry more, a chain with a 14k stamp is more recognizable than a shady bar that says pure 999 gold.
You can travel across borders with jewelry and not have to declare it, coins and bullion will be confiscated if not declared.
Jewelry can sell for 2x+ spot if you find the right buyer.
Jewelry takes more labor and fine artisan craftsmanship, it doubles as a piece of art.

>>60788691
Well... 400 is pretty darned exclusive for a prestigious mint issuing a nice medal like that.
Still... without those marks, no thanks.

Even metal merchants sometimes admit silver is a scam

>>60788709
I can't argue with any of that.
At best, I could point out that there's no reason to NOT declare bullion. But yeah - another hassle to be free of.
You do not mention it is more expensive to buy. So you had better hope you can sell it for above spot.

>>60788709
>Jewelry > bullion

Interesting thesis

>Jewelry can't be confiscated.
Wrong
>You can wear Jewelry to attract bitches
True
>Coins are for incels and old boomers.
Fact
>Jewelry is harder to fake
Wrong
>Jewelry such as chains and bracelets are far more divisible, in hard times you can sell off individual links.

Muh collapse, lmao

>Normies trust Jewelry more, a chain with a 14k stamp is more recognizable than a shady bar that says pure 999 gold.

Interesting

>You can travel across borders with jewelry and not have to declare it, coins and bullion will be confiscated if not declared.

Wrong

>Jewelry can sell for 2x+ spot if you find the right buyer.

Anything can

>Jewelry takes more labor and fine artisan craftsmanship, it doubles as a piece of art.

Eh, they say the same thing about todds garbage and it is undeniably hideous

>>60788742
>At best, I could point out that there's no reason to NOT declare bullion. But yeah - another hassle to be free of.

Lmao another idiot who believes anything, no wonder you fell for sn obvious scam, a simple search confirms you are wrong but it should be obvious why they wouldn't allow you to so easily avoid customs

>>60787315
The value is in the self contained blockchain trchnology, saving countless manpower with no need for accounting. They are scarce, require resources to mine, and they cant be counterfeited

>>60781804 (OP)
Pic related was at a gold shop for 27k canadian and it sold for while i was viewing it. 163g of 18k in japanese ikemono style made by a master craftsman in mid century naples. The watches were part or a partial trade but literally someone called while i was getting my trade in weighed out and it sold

Its photorealistic with articulated legs and claws that pinch

in all honesty, beep boops give shitcoins:
value, scarcity, equity, inclusion and diversity
do the needful saar!
do not redeem!

>>60788805
that's absolutely neat! Italians got some next level craftmen, it remind me of the micro-mosaics from Florence & Venice back in the 18th c.

>>60788742
>more expensive to buy
Not if you know where to look, I buy stuff for close or under spot all the time on ebay, you need to filter by most recent and look for accounts with low feedback that means theyre normies selling and not pawnshops or jewelry stores.
You can buy cheap gold under spot locally on fb market or offer up, usually from mexicans, many dont even know how to calculate the value.

I bought pic related 14k pen for $300
Though I dont know how much gold there is, im fairly certain there's atleast 10 grams and the pens sell as collectibles. I have another one I bought from the same guy but I can't find it right now

>>60788843
100 percent its a good investment. Faberge eggs were almost scrap before they got famous. With the right marketing that fould go to the moon over 20 years

14k gold belt buckle.. SOVL

39 oz sterling silver bowl for $3.. still has the price tag from the garage sale

>>60788846
would anon be able to smuggle many gold pens when flying internationally by hiding them in pooper?
asking for a fren

>>60788859
that belt buckle cool

>>60788847
Lmao its funny when amateurs think they are getting over on experts

Have you guys ever bought any bullion baddies?

>>60788871
You know how many of these we've seen that a silverplate?

>>60788875
What experts? They are w bulk gold buyer that would buy the crown jewels off a crackhead wnd melt them happily. They just price everything randomly and i have bought rare pieces from tbem before. They’re not an art dealer they’re one step above fat anton at the flea market

>>60788846
I like stuff like this honestly

>>60788892
I have some peace and Morgan dollars, ya.

>>60788919
I’ll add the crayfish was sold 1 day after they listed it for 27,000 and they were on the phone with the other buyer when i went to view it. This is gold smithing skills you will never see in your life even in a museum

>>60788892
>bullion baddies
Do you mean a brand, or just booba stuff?

>>60788919
They are buying and selling $27000 pieces yes they are the experts, the fact you bought something from them is irrelevant.

Have you bought something from them and immediately flipped it?

>>60788941
>This is gold smithing skills you will never see in your life even in a museum


Thats just silly. What's the melt value on that in Canadian $?

>>60788895
Yeah most of the silverware out there like this are usually silver plate. This is sterling. Most are pretty light and flimsy too

>>60788973
They are not experts on gems or museum level art. They literally buy scrap gold all day.

>>60788987
18500. And pic related is a mother of pearl guilloche dial watch (125g) i bought from them a few years ago for $4200cad. Tourneau was the company rolex bought a few years ago to retail rolex certified preowned

>>60788930
Yeah it took more time and labor, i used to make jewelry so i can appreciate the amount of time abd effort that went into stuff. Im thinking of buying a full matching sterling silverware set of utencils just to use for my food.
No nigger burglar will ever steal that, and its anti microbial

>>60789038
Based. Im trying to get a gold g shock bezel with diamonds made

>>60789031
>They are not experts on gems or museum level art.


Nor are you, lmao that you are impressed by a tacky crawfish that will eventually get melted down for scrap

>>60788873
You could probably just put the pens in a binder or briefcase. The customs agents aren't analyzing pens for hallmarks.
You could theoretically get a huge gold chain and remove the hallmark and just pass it off as costume jewelry. Bullion is way harder to smuggle to the point where jeets have to shove giant gold dildos up their asses when they fly to Dubai

925 Wallet chain i painstakingly hand made. Weighs around 200g

>>60789038
Proves nothing if you didn't sell it. Otherwise it could be a "i know what i have" boomer situation we have a dozen idiots here who buy US mint sets, frog rounds, queens beasts, king Charles rounds ASEs at 80% premiums, 1 gram gold bars, etc and brag how smart they are because they "know" they will go up in the future.

>>60789060
Find similar examples if you think its nothing. Find a photorealistic 1950s era gold sculpture in 18k with articulating limbs. Even the highest level of buccelati is not this sophisticated

Bunch of random 925 silver junk and jewelry

>>60789096
The gold value is $8000 so i have doubled my money and gold didnt double in that

SOVL....
Antique crystal decanter with sterling accents. The scotch label did not originally come on it, I came across that separate.
Im a bit afraid to use it for storing alcohol because they made them with leaded glass.
Its just crazy how detailed and quality they used to make stuff... I think humanity is actually declining, people think of the past as primitive and ignorant. Compare this with a plastic soda bottle for corn syrup slop

>>60789096
If you thonk a photorealistic 1950s italian kinetic sculpture with 400+ hours of work put into it is on par with silver coins elderly people sell at your flee market then you dont know anything

>>60788463
You have to be over 18 to post here kid with that garbage larp. Some day when you are older you will understand owning hard assets instead of believing the own nothing ghouls.

>>60789102
Lmao they aren't selling gold for less than scrap that indicates you can't do basic math or think the entire watch is gold. It's also missing the point that you aren't getting a great deal today if something goes up in value years later

>>60789110
It's tacky and was sold for scrap at least once already, there are many ticktock videos of dealers scrapping stuff like that, 5 gallon bucketfulls

>>60789134
hey scrapchad, good to see you.
that sculpture is amazing

don't let these faggot trolls give you any grief, they're the same guy from years back. He's been here all day every day for 4 years now.
The condom licker from vietnam who lies about being rich

>scrap chad

More like retardedchud. Stop replying to the troll ya goof. He's hit you with two ids and you're arguing with a bad actor.

>>60789140
They’re not good at assessing gold content of watches without taking them apart and i know this for a fact and i actually laughed in their face after i bought it which is part of the reason they dont like me

>>60789161
that didn't age well

>>60789158
The only reason to melt something like this is if its in interpols stolen art database and was connected to a high profile museum heist but since there is no evidence of its existence i think it is low heat which is why i wanted it

>>60789175
I want to die

>>60789163
I know, I wish I could get one of these sets so I could take it out every now and then and have a chuckle, but I've never found any for sale on Ebay or anywhere.

In what sort of denominations should a person acquire gold? All I know is there are 1oz but premiums are higher for smaller ones. Anywhere I can get unmarked gold where the cost of a fancy design isn't present?

>>60789244
>AI is giving me exactly the answer i want, it's incredible!
bro..

>>60789163
It aged very well. And proved silver isn't needed for money

>>60789157
Don't respond to namefag larpers moron he's a bad actor who has scrapped nothing just buys overpriced scrap from dealers aka s(tier)-crap

>>60789255
Consider 10g bars

>>60789274
Thanks for the heading
Think that's about 1/3

>>60789264
Find higher examples of italian gold work than a kinetic photorealistic sculpture made in 1950. Ai can confirm such pieces dont actually exist. They are not in art history books or museums or galleries. They do not exist period.

>>60789255
If you can't buy 1 oz coins or bars, your next best choice would be to buy Foreign gold coins that used to circulate, with British Sovereigns, French/Swiss 20 Francs and Austrian Coronas and Ducats usually being the lowest premium.
If you want unmarked gold bars, I'm not sure where you'd find those for low premiums unfortunately.

>>60789255
Gold is a shit investment, the fact that you are asking financial incels such basic questions.....lmao

>>60789278
>Find higher examples of italian gold work than a kinetic photorealistic sculpture made in 1950. Ai can confirm such pieces dont actually exist. They are not in art history books or museums or galleries. They do not exist period.
idk why you are shilling so hard over something you didn't even win, but that's sussy.

>>60789278
It is a fantastic item but I'd guess the value is diminished simply because it is unique and unknown. Hard to collect something when there's only one of it.

>>60789280
Good insights, thanks.

>>60789285
It's not an investment to me in the "make lots of money" sense. I just see the value in parking some of the value from actual investing in PMs. /biz/ was part of helping me find my way there and it'll be part of helping me find my way here too.

>>60789278
>Ai can confirm such pieces dont actually exist.
That's absurd kek. I can push AI to tell me i'm the most gorgeous man alive, that wont change the fact i'm a fat baldlet. There are many, many works of gold who equal or surpass your sea insect, don't be stupid...

>>60789306
>There are many, many works of gold who equal or surpass your sea insect,
post some for comparison

>>60789313
CPUs for starter

>>60789313
The astronomical clock of Passemant made for Louis XV

>>60789347
excellent.
what's that cost?

>>60789351
priceless

>>60789358
exactly
his lerbster that got away isn't the greatest gold work ever made, but it is absurdly well crafted to find in a scrap heap

>>60789365
>exactly
lol, are you really trying to compare the most famous clockwork on earth who took a lifetime to make to be offered to the most powerful king back then... with a fucking golden crab? An articulated playmobile is different from a 300yo astro clock who tells you when jupiter will cross saturn in 2678 AD...
If it was so incredibly bing bing wahoo, then why not spend the fucking $CAD27K to acquire it?

>>60789390
>are you really trying to compare the most famous clockwork on earth who took a lifetime to make to be offered to the most powerful king back then... with a fucking golden crab?
only that I wouldn't expect either one to sell for melt

the comparison to faberge was a bit or a stretch, but it's not unlike some tiffany's shit that sells for extreme premiums.

>>60789398
>only that I wouldn't expect either one to sell for melt
that's a good starting point, this anon should have talked about the item in real money, nobody know/care what a leafdollar is worth like. If it was sold for scrap weight, then yes that's a great deal, but nowhere he said that.

Plus i was the first anon to comment on his find >>60788843 and tell him how nice it was.
I was all for it, until he spent the next 20 posts autismo-shilling this thing, then it got onto my nerves. It's not even about the item i want to lash against, it's about the namefag spamming his shit.
He isn't even scrapanon.

>>60789412
>He isn't even scrapanon.
kek

You would know better than me. His interests seem the same. And the autism. But I do admit you know the guy much better than I do.

>>60789390
I fumbled it. It was listed for one day. I made an appointment at 10am. Showed up with 30k in scrap and 5k cash so they could take what they want and the rest in cash. While i was negotiating the scap the buyer on the phone paid and that was the end of it.

I was so close and i shared the story just because i was close to getting something very unusual.

And this is a gold work not a
Clock. Different categories. I have handled a lot of gold in my life and this is something you will never see again. 400 hours of expert labor is… rare to say the least

>>60789398
Show examples of more sophisticated mid century gold works from italy japan or america and i’ll believe you. If they exist name them

>>60789427
are you the canadian scrap guy?
I mixed you up with my old acquaintance from Wyoming.

funny stuff.

>>60789427
>I have handled a lot of gold in my life and this is something you will never see again.
Believe me, you will live long enough to see others ones, lot of nice stuff hidden in boomers' ceilings are resurfacing now they are passing away.

>>60789434
I gave you a lead. Look up Tiffany and Co. insect jewelry

>>60789438
yeah, scrapanon didn't show itt for ages. Ever since he started to manage the LCS in his town, must take him a lot of time. Miss him, he got incredible knowledge to share. :(

>>60789444
Love that guy. I was all happy because I thought he was back. Maybe someday.

>>60789441
What i was buying was a 10 inch photorealistic crayfish with gyroscopic legs moving arms, a tail that bends up and down, and claws that pinch in 160g of 18k with easily 400 hours of work… kinetic sculptures in 18k are very very rare.

Its unusual because even the highest stuff from

>>60789456
I agree, I've never seen one of that size or complexity before. But I'm no expert on the topic. I have no doubt it was worth a lot more than it sold for.

>>60789439
You dont know anything about canadian “boomers”. Italian artistic masterpieces are not common purchases among canadian elderly? Are you from toronto or vancouver?

I doubt it even came from a boomer. An ikemono style piece was probably commissioned by a rich jap since post war aligns with japan’s industrial rise

>>60789462
the anon you're talking with there has a lot more knowledge of european antiques than you might imagine.

>>60789462
Not saying they are commons, but you see amazing stuff being auctionned every week, the world is a big place, and new opportunities arise if you look after them. I'm certain you will have another love at first sight soon enough anon.

>>60789486
I know lots of scrap dealers in my city and interesting stuff isnt ahy common. In the last few years the best i have seen is a concord c1 (the 250g 18k brick) a gold 18k iced jacob and co 5 timezone, maybe a dozen gold presidens, a factory iced 18k breitling— at least in canada good stuff isnt infinite. Maybe different in rich parts of ny or california but not in canada.

>>60789500
He's got a better market than most. I've seen him post a few pieces that would be snapped up by museums in a heartbeat. If I remember right he might have sold a coin to a museum once.

>>60789509
Yeah selling to museums is the holy grail of collecting. If you can name active museum exhibits and say “i supplied that” its a big flex but you have to be very careful since there are many large databases of looted goods and museums generally are careful about provinance

>>60789509
Several even! What i found interesting is it was only from central/east european museums (Poland & Croatia are the two i remember clearly; both for rare medieval Vatican coins), but my descriptions aren't even in english. It means they tend to delve pretty deep to find what they want on their catalogue, or that maybe they have a more opportunistic approach, to save on money. Idk, it's not ways of acquiring materials i'd imagine the western countries' museums do. I don't even know if western museums are looking after new stuff, they probably simply wait to inherit richfags' collections.

>>60788780
>They are scarce

>>60789551
mb it was Check Republic's East Bohemia Museum, not Croatia. Pic rel bought a 1623's Quattrino Urban VIII from me earlier this year.

>>60789574
Very cool

>>60783639
gold and silver overbought, im expecting a correction and more manipulation tbdesu.

a bunch rares listed today but they're all ef again >:( bu please

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