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Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792615 >>60792624 >>60792661 >>60792670 >>60792686 >>60792709 >>60792781 >>60793193 >>60793356 >>60793409 >>60793432 >>60793830 >>60794192 >>60795020 >>60795032 >>60795129 >>60795132 >>60795274 >>60797672 >>60798646 >>60798927 >>60803860 >>60806528
I just installed a bidet for my toilet. The job is simple but can be more difficult than it should be due to tight bolts and nuts. I wore gloves and the job took less than 1 hour. But goddamn, my hands are FUCKED. Swollen and in pain. Blue collar people do this for decades. No wonder they are FUCKED UP.
Anonymous (ID: JHAVsW+C) No.60792624 >>60792626 >>60792664 >>60793575 >>60801207 >>60801215 >>60801223
>>60792615 (OP)
Still much better than having to deal with white collar HR roasties in jew day care
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792626 >>60792678
>>60792624
Different type of bullshit. My hands are burning right now.
Anonymous (ID: yk1VSqfH) No.60792661 >>60795111
>>60792615 (OP)
your anus will thank you though anon
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792664
>>60792624
Not really, cucks and soi boys feel right at home in the office. The damage to the body from blue collar is something else.
Anonymous (ID: tB+S+WcP) No.60792670 >>60792697 >>60792705 >>60792744
>>60792615 (OP)
>muh fingies
they do it because they do that same job in 5-10 minutes and charge you $400, then laugh at what a pussy you are at the bar. imagine trying to sell you getting stomped by a fucking toilet as a win
Anonymous (ID: O9GDty5C) No.60792678 >>60792697
>>60792626
You honestly kinda sound like a huge pussy.
Anonymous (ID: uGr3L2an) No.60792686 >>60792712
>>60792615 (OP)
how fuck weak are you that installing a bidet busted up your hands lol
its a consumer item not a heat exchanger
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792697 >>60792724 >>60793411 >>60798706 >>60805608
>>60792670
Fuck u loser. Enjoy your swollen hands.
Blue collar people do like 10 hour jobs and not every job is 5 minute. I fuck you loser.
>>60792678
My hands are still burning.

You idiots are missing the point. It isnt this 4 minute job thats the main point. It is doing this for decades. Like I wore gloves and my hands are still burning.

I hadkneel, bend, twist and squat for this and my body is fucked up right now.
Anonymous (ID: T6ctB0Mg) No.60792705 >>60792714
>>60792670
Do you think white collar professionals care what shitfingered bowkneed tradies laugh at when they drink garbage
Anonymous (ID: dqMaUs8b) No.60792706 >>60792735
My current record box-open-to-complete is about 7 minutes 45 seconds for installing a bidet. I've done it a dozen times by now. If I am staying overnight at any friend's house I will install one, you can get simple ones for $20 a pop on Amazon specials and for the price of one meal have a clean ass forever with an upgraded toilet.
Anonymous (ID: dBMwX1yG) No.60792709
>>60792615 (OP)
Still better than walking around with shit on your're are ass
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792712 >>60792778
>>60792686
You missed the point.
The nuts and bolts get very tight.
Anonymous (ID: tB+S+WcP) No.60792714 >>60792816
>>60792705
well OP is larping as one and he very clearly got upset so I guess so. sorry about your fragility lil gup
Anonymous (ID: ykPtUSUU) No.60792724
>>60792697
Do you ever exercise? What a massive retarded faggot you are.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792735 >>60792805
>>60792706
Lol
You missed the point. For my toilet, the nut under my toilet isnt like the ones in the youtube videos. Only a hand can fit under it and a wrench cannot fit in sideways to make it easier.
I had to lie on the floor, squat and peak under the toilet to get a look at it.
And it was very tight.
Anonymous (ID: M+eq+3uC) No.60792744 >>60792752 >>60792767 >>60796922
>>60792670
Kek us white collars laugh at you blue collars like you wouldn't believe. Imagine ruining your body for a lower pay because you're too stupid to use a computer. You're all parasites anyway
Anonymous (ID: tB+S+WcP) No.60792752 >>60792863 >>60793399
>>60792744
I retired 6 years ago as a reactor operator at 28 brother, your poorfag cope is a joke to me, but sorry about those candyass hands kek
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792753
Itt, people that saw youtube videos where everything was loosened up to make it seem easier. Not saying the job was hard, but tight bolts and nuts and wierd angles can make it more difficult.
Throwing in grip strength and damage to hands plus kneeling, squatting and bending, and you have a busted body.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792767
>>60792744
Arthritic hands typed this post
Anonymous (ID: uGr3L2an) No.60792778 >>60792801 >>60792811
>>60792712
do you have a fucking wrench??
Anonymous (ID: n+q3czel) No.60792781 >>60792801 >>60792811
>>60792615 (OP)
>tight bolts and nuts. I wore gloves and the job took less than 1 hour. But goddamn, my hands are FUCKED. Swollen and in pain.
Never heard of something called a wrench?

"A wrench or spanner is a tool used to provide grip and mechanical advantage in applying torque to turn objects—usually rotary fasteners, such as nuts and bolts"
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792801 >>60793287
>>60792778
>>60792781
Had these and used it at the end, but the angle was bad, I had to use it “straight” and not sideways. And I had to grip it hard. And opening and closing the water valve and tightening it, the metal damaged my fingers. The job is easy, a girl can do it. But realistically, tight bolts, wierd angles, and wierd body postions can make it impossible for a girl. And the bolt was those circular ones too so even a wrench wasnt easy to use on.

Lucky nothing was rusted or whatever and I didnt have to replace things.
Anonymous (ID: xuScwiYN) No.60792805 >>60792834
>>60792735
Why would you need to look at it, do you not know which way a nut fastens?
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792811 >>60793592
>>60792778
>>60792781
>no tools needed
my ass.

The point is my hands are the robbing and swollen even with glove. And my index finger feels damaged from closing the valve.

It doesn’t matter what you say, my hands are damaged and need healing.
Anonymous (ID: ouB25p5j) No.60792816
>>60792714
Am I fragile about being white too, darkie?
Anonymous (ID: WhPHOVn6) No.60792822 >>60792849
OP don't try to work on your car either. You probably shouldn't change your flat tire either. Those lugnuts can be really tight. There are roadside services for that.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792834 >>60793215
>>60792805
Because sometimes and this one, the nut was UNDER the toilet and for my toilet, the under was covered up so I had to put my head and eyesight under. It wasnt like the ones in the youtube videos.

It was like this toilet. The nut is kinda hidden and the angle is bad even with a spanner.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792849
>>60792822
Easy to talk shit when your hands arent swollen.
Anonymous (ID: ouB25p5j) No.60792863 >>60792872
>>60792752
> reactor operator
Is that even a trade? Staring at numbers on screens and turning some dials is more along the lines to white collar work. The thread is more about the traditional trades
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60792872
>>60792863
He is coping.
And they wear steel toed boots which can screw up your toe nails. And poisonous air.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793100
My fingers tips on every finger is swollen rn lmao
Anonymous (ID: 0s3KCHSn) No.60793167 >>60793240 >>60793278
this is actually pathetic.
OP get one of those grip testers so I can laugh more.
Anonymous (ID: GIqOZXsT) No.60793193 >>60793240
>>60792615 (OP)
I installed one of these during Covid. Then caught my kids drinking from it an hour later.
Anonymous (ID: J10nRN7W) No.60793215 >>60793240 >>60793268 >>60793334 >>60793382
>>60792834
Its called using a cordless drill and a flexible extension socket.

The reason why your hands are swollen and in pain is because you are severely allergic to manual labor.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793240 >>60793334 >>60793350
>>60793215
>>60793193
>>60793167
You guys are all talking shit but there are literally youtube videos on what to do when when nuts and bolts are too tight.
Like you literally have to break the thing with a saw and replace it.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793268
>>60793215
> cordless drill and a flexible extension socket
So much for no tools needed.

No, my hands and tips are legit swollen and in pain is because you have to grip those metal valves and spanners. And I worse gloves too. This is like a one time job.
I cant imagine being full time blue collar.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793278
>>60793167
?
My grip is strong enough that my finger tips are swollen dumbass.
This isnt about strength.
Anonymous (ID: xlqW04ww) No.60793287 >>60793334 >>60793346 >>60793359
>>60792801
You sound like a massive fucking pussy lmfao I’m seriously holding back laughter. I just installed a bidet in my girlfriend’s toilet last month and it took less than ten minutes. Then again I’ve assembled engines and changed transmissions with no lift so my hands aren’t exactly angel soft like OPs. Let me guess, you can’t cook either because it makes your feety weeties hurt standing for too long?
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793334 >>60793373
>>60793287
Your gf had the toilets shown in the youtube videos. Good angle to get a spanner on.
A tool like this>>60793215 would have been made easier so now you know the angle I was working with.
It was tight, hand grip cant do it and a spanner on it, is still a bad angle.
Eitherway, simple job in youtube videos, irl, can be difficult.

See this post too. >>60793240
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793346
>>60793287
Meh, diy jobs can be simple or it can difficult due to little things.
I was doing my to my downstairs toilet, unscrewed everything and realized my toilet hose wasnt a flex hose. lmfao.
So now the biden is upstairs.
Anonymous (ID: xlqW04ww) No.60793350 >>60793382 >>60793390 >>60793405
>>60793240
I know this thread is probably bait but I’ve been laughing to the point of tears for the last five minutes imagining you using a saw to try and cut through a pipe because of a “stuck bolt” instead of using leverage or the proper tool. Like, can your mind can’t even fathom the thought of there possibly being a tool for that? I’d say that’s what separates us from monkeys but even the simplest of apes can use and fabricate tools
Anonymous (ID: 9hMFYUkq) No.60793356
>>60792615 (OP)
Actual toiletpaper hands don't belong here.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793359
>>60793287
It isnt soft hands or not though. If they are swollen, they are swollen. The water shut off valve is metal and tight and I gripped it hard to turn it and to make sure it was shut off.
Wore gloves too. The main point is if I had to do it again tomorrow, it would be bad for my hands.
Anonymous (ID: J10nRN7W) No.60793373
>>60793334
If you had a real father figure in your life you would realize by now why he has his garage filled with niche tools be barely uses.

Its called being a self reliant man
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793382 >>60793415
>>60793350
Yeah, the tool is a spanner or this>>60793215. Thing is, the nut or bolt thing might be custom and that flexible extension socket might not work on it.
So a tool free job now requires power tools lmfao.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793390
>>60793350
>Stuck bolt
Sometimes the whole thing can be so stuck or damaged or rusted, it needs to be cut off.
Anonymous (ID: M+eq+3uC) No.60793399 >>60797096
>>60792752
>34 year old
lmao you're old as fuck. Hey grandpa, make sure you take your daily medication before the dementia sets in. Just kys at this point, I'm early 20s and slamming prime pussy while your dick is shriveling up and falling off. Your post-wall hag awaits kek
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793405
>>60793350
>Leverage
There was no space for leverage. I used a spanner at a straight angle. However, doing that too much will round out the bolt/nut thing and it wont even come off in the future due to no grip.
Anonymous (ID: FKZrV7vW) No.60793409 >>60793423
>>60792615 (OP)
How the fuck do you hurt yourself from installing a bidet? My nigger, 80 year olds buy this shit from Amazon and install it themselves in like 10 minutes.
Anonymous (ID: HS3ljSyx) No.60793411
>>60792697
yes they end up junkies on opioids because of this. It ruins the body, and quickly because you can't rest enough if you work 50 h a week which makes it way worse
Then they die of fentanyl overdose and they don't burden pension funds.
America in a nuttshell
Anonymous (ID: xlqW04ww) No.60793415 >>60793439
>>60793382
Why the fuck do you not have power tools?
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793423 >>60793436
>>60793409
Read the thread.
Bolts and nuts can become too tight, bad angles and no line of sight to bolt. And the bolt can be custom brand so tools like flex extension sockets dont work.
Anonymous (ID: znNX31o0) No.60793432 >>60793445 >>60793482
>>60792615 (OP)
>bidet
>nuts and bolts
Bidets don’t use nuts and bolts. Nice bait though
Anonymous (ID: xlqW04ww) No.60793436
>>60793423
>the bolt can be custom brand
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793439
>>60793415
I have a drill, but not the flex extension socket.
Also, the toilet bolt might be custom brand and not traditional size and even sockets wont fit on it.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793445
>>60793432
The parts to connect to the toilets do. It is not the bidet but the toilet parts.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793482 >>60793493 >>60793935
>>60793432
The thing on the left in picrel was hard as fuck to unscrew and the bad angles. Power tools wont help.
Anonymous (ID: dqMaUs8b) No.60793493 >>60793508 >>60793521
>>60793482
>plastic on plastic threading
>how does leverage work
lmaooooo
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793508 >>60794167 >>60795388
>>60793493
What?
Picrel would be easy.
But mine wasnt like this. It was in an angle and a spanner couldnt fit. I pretty much used pliers on a straight 90degree angle to the to the floor to get a good grip.
Do this off often and the valve becomes rounded.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793521 >>60793589
>>60793493
Picrel is what I have but worse angle.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793534
https://www.reddit.com/r/askaplumber/comments/1geg2d8/cant_get_this_lock_nut_off_of_the_fill_valve_any/

This is what I would have needed to do if I couldn’t do it.
So much shit talking itt lol.
Anonymous (ID: gZ3FbX9T) No.60793575
>>60792624
went back to the office, cause pay for apprenticeship is shit. All I got was shit knees.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793589 >>60793689
>>60793521
I am going to make a post with this pic on the diy board and see what they say.
Anonymous (ID: gZ3FbX9T) No.60793592 >>60793615
>>60792811
What a pussy, if you do it more your hands will build of strength, enough to tighten bolts and hex nuts.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793615 >>60793813
>>60793592
It isnt about strength.
Anonymous (ID: xlqW04ww) No.60793689 >>60793716 >>60793720
>>60793589
Please put the link in this thread, can’t wait to see others dunking on you
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793716 >>60793726
>>60793689
>>>/diy/2938271

It wasn’t or isn’t as simple as it should’ve been.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793720 >>60793728
>>60793689
You’re fucking stupid.
Anonymous (ID: tR3IwTO+) No.60793726
>>60793716
>34 posts coping about being a wristlet
Anonymous (ID: xlqW04ww) No.60793728 >>60793732 >>60793737
>>60793720
Says the “man” who can’t operate basic power tools LOL
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793732
>>60793728
I told you. Power tools wouldnt work.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793737 >>60793944
>>60793728
Are you retarded.
Power tool for this?
It was like this but even worse. No space for anything. And its not a bolt.
Anonymous (ID: gZ3FbX9T) No.60793813
>>60793615
Nah, it is.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793828
This thread really proved most of biz is dumb
Anonymous (ID: K7wEDOH2) No.60793830
>>60792615 (OP)
from
Anonymous (ID: y8CDrxqg) No.60793935 >>60793939 >>60793944
>>60793482
Those are hand tight fittings with gaskets in them. Tools not required. Post wrists
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793939
>>60793935
It is very tight. Then what?
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60793944
>>60793935
It is more like this one>>60793737
No space.
Anonymous (ID: M+eq+3uC) No.60794167
>>60793508
I like your bathroom, I'm a girl!
Anonymous (ID: 85Pq5kIe) No.60794192
>>60792615 (OP)
>meanwhile, OP at his white collar job
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60794229
biz is such a cesspool.
OP exposed how most anons are biz are just full of shit.
Anonymous (ID: 5LTubH1/) No.60795020
>>60792615 (OP)
>81 replies
>40 PBTID
Anonymous (ID: Dn5gi28x) No.60795032 >>60795393
>>60792615 (OP)
I hate having to deal with blue collar wagies when I employ them for some job. I just can't relate to them.
Anonymous (ID: 0KI77zJt) No.60795111
>>60792661
I just save on toilet paper by dipping my hand into the toilet bowl after taking a dump and then clean it with my hand, a little gross but that's what the sink and soap are for after.
Anonymous (ID: cfXec02n) No.60795129 >>60795397
>>60792615 (OP)
All of that's true and yet, as someone who has a had a pretty prestigious white collar job for the past 6 years, I still hang out with the people I worked with in a blue collar job before all this. I couldn't give less of a shit about my current coworkers but I still like to get beers with the blue collar friends I made. They are far more interesting and fun to be with in my experience.
Anonymous (ID: CakEFpoW) No.60795132 >>60797286
>>60792615 (OP)
I blue collar but own my own business, I sometimes make $4k a day
Anonymous (ID: 6eJJVNwA) No.60795274
>>60792615 (OP)
In a mass producing industrial setting it is ok though and the pay is better. Small companies are exploitation.
Anonymous (ID: 6oM88Bml) No.60795388 >>60797297
What is this thread wtf

>>60793508
Wtf water lines coming out of the floor, holy shit is this burgerland?
Anonymous (ID: fzy/vf9e) No.60795393
>>60795032
So you’re just some faggy nerd?
Anonymous (ID: fzy/vf9e) No.60795397
>>60795129
Exactly, it’s still fun to party with blue collar dudes. White collar people are timid and insecure as fuck and start panicking about their health or whatever really easily.
Anonymous (ID: CakEFpoW) No.60796922 >>60797297
>>60792744
Sitting slouched in a computer chair ruins your body and especially your back. Your back has spinal fluid and in order to pump the spinal fluid through your spine you need to move which you white collar niggers do not, also AI will be replacing you soon.
Anonymous (ID: PJQ1t3ZZ) No.60796961
>wow if only there was some way to create leverage in this enclosed space
>oh well better just fuck my hands up
Anonymous (ID: 8/dXwQWj) No.60797096
>>60793399
>, I'm early 20s and slamming prime pussy

LARP
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60797286
>>60795132
>sometimes
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60797297 >>60797592
>>60795388
Your toilets arent even full in Europe lmfao
>>60796922
Blue collar work is terrible for the body lol
Anonymous (ID: 6oM88Bml) No.60797592 >>60798727
>>60797297
Wat?
Anonymous (ID: lLOnY42/) No.60797672 >>60798817
>>60792615 (OP)
its because you don't know how to deal with gripped bolts and nuts
i wrench on my cars and bikes all the time and never need to use my strength, if something is too hard to unscrew just use a longer lever. if a screw/nut is too gripped spray some loosener and hit it gently with a hammer, or in extreme cases heat it up with a torch
Never use too much strength thats how you snap screws/bolts and thats how you unintentionally punch into random metallic stuff and hurt your hands
Anonymous (ID: 8mD5Ip5l) No.60798646 >>60798727 >>60798727
>>60792615 (OP)
youre a giant queef
im like 97th percentile networth and i love doing that kindof work
if it paid the same as white collar id be doing a trade INSTANTLY
if i hit fuck you money ill get into manufacturing for fun
Anonymous (ID: o880AApT) No.60798706 >>60798770
>>60792697
>Blue collar people do like 10 hour jobs and not every job is 5 minute. I fuck you loser.
indian
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60798727 >>60798932
>>60797592
Blue collar income isn’t consistent. I hear blue collar brag about how much they make but they have like times where they’re not working.
>>60798646
Its bad for your body. Period. >>60798646
Retired at 30 so I live pretty comfortably so I know what stress feels like. Stress is work. For me, household chores and cleaning dishes are major stressors now.
Why do you have a job? Your networth not enough?
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60798770 >>60798932
>>60798706
My hands are sore and if I was blue collar, I would be back at work today. You idiots larp and clearly have never done blue collar jobs. Its doing the job daily that is going to damage you.
You can drive by any job site and look at blue collar people. They look beat.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60798780 >>60798932
Smart people dont do manual labor work.
Period.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60798817 >>60798932 >>60798937
>>60797672
Look at the pics itt. The thing that needs to be unscrewed isnt a traditional nut or bolt. (idk the correct word.) There was almost no space to use leverage.
There is only space for a hand to grip and twist. Too tight? Too bad. And I think the thing was almost round too lmao, so good lucky isnt a spanner. And it was plastic, grip too hard with a tool and you smooth out all edges and its stuck forever with no way to grip it.

It involved lying on the floor, kneeling, bending and squatting and gripping metal objects hard. All of these are hard on the body. And the odd angles to work with.
Anonymous (ID: mnUG2zxM) No.60798927 >>60798935
>>60792615 (OP)
>tight bolts and nuts
>my hands are FUCKED
You're supposed to use a spanner
Anonymous (ID: xlqW04ww) No.60798932
>>60798727
>>60798770
>>60798780
>>60798817
>quadruple post

Actually kill yourself posthaste
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60798935
>>60798927
spanner didnt fit. dumb ass.
Anonymous (ID: mnUG2zxM) No.60798937 >>60798948 >>60798951
>>60798817
Just read your other posts. Was it a sort of plastic nut? I've come across those before on toilets. They're supposed to be operable without tools, but with age they can become seized. Not a good system
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60798948
>>60798937
Exactly. Only smart post in here besides another one like this.

Fucking retarded, this board.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60798951
>>60798937
Yeah. Plastic. And round. And every easy to round it out even more if you grip too hard by pliers. No space. Lying down on a hard floor to even look at it.
Anonymous (ID: 6kQpjXfX) No.60798958
Every blue collar job seems easy until you do it.
Anonymous (ID: jqYAwuEI) No.60801207
>>60792624
I have to deal with both
Anonymous (ID: RKVNMBhv) No.60801215
>>60792624
Good thing my company cant afford HR lmao
Anonymous (ID: SHwatrL0) No.60801223
>>60792624
i make $118k a year and wfh. the only time i interact with hr is when i have to listen to one of their dumb career advancement schpiels once every few years.
Anonymous (ID: OJgGm4z9) No.60803860 >>60804649
>>60792615 (OP)
bump
sage (ID: 6cjFIpAI) No.60804649
>>60803860
why?
Anonymous (ID: JMcGqX08) No.60805545 >>60808242
Based bidet enjoyer. Op is a larping faggot. I’m also white collared but had no problem installing my bidet. But I also use to mess with dirt bikes and cars when I was younger
Anonymous (ID: YUE2VQgY) No.60805566
i start my first ever blue collar job tomorrow, how long until I get unfixable back pain?
Anonymous (ID: Y6/HOWfZ) No.60805608
>>60792697
>My hands are still burning
Pussy
Anonymous (ID: Ee744xdn) No.60806528
>>60792615 (OP)
soft hands
Anonymous (ID: 0KI77zJt) No.60808242
>>60805545
why not just wipe your ass with your hand and soap, its more low key and you keep your ass very clean. Having a bidet is just weird, guests will picture you cleaning your ass in an unconventional way.