Thread 60799410

>Bought it for 230k
>wake up every morning with sore lungs
>didnt realize how bad the smoke smell in house was, realtors covered it well. >Dumped 25k into hvac (clean ducts, get insulation out of air returns add HEPA filter to hvac) and basement drain tile to fix water problems thinking that might help
>ripped up carpet upstairs to bare subfloors, still wake up with sore lungs
>have young child 50/50, worried this will give him long term problems
>want out
>I just bought two months ago
>2 realtors tell me i can maybe sell for 200k, market is slow, so im out ~55k + their 20k 6% fee.
>thinking about just getting a buy houses for cash person to just pay whatever they will. Which I'm guessing will be around 180k if I'm lucky.
>kinda want to kms myself
>only good news is I have enough money to get an apartment which I am probably going to do asap.

Any advice? Also let this be a warning, home ownership can fuck you up, especially if you're fucking retarded.

>>60799410 (OP)
Don't be rash. I used to smoke and my apartment stank...I gave up and it improved, but it did take 1-2 years for the smell to completely leave. You'll probably have to get new carpets, wallpaper, etc but no point doing yourself out of 50k when there are solutions.

try opening all the windows

You sound so fucking weak. Literal soiboi

>>60799410 (OP)
There is a coating in the hvac ducts.

You would probably die if you used my bathroom

>>60799410 (OP)
Rent for 3 years and throw 100% of the house money in BTC.

>>60799420
Is this the same guy that said his hands hurt real bad after fixing his toilet?

>>60799421
Yep, replace the ducts.

Contact a cleaning company and tell them the problem. They will show up with guys in hazmat suits and spray a cleaning chemical (it would be best if you move all your stuff out of the house so they can get every bit).

>>60799410 (OP)
>kvetching about a little ciggie smoke
Shouldn't have taken the vax

>>60799452
Bro replacing the Ducks would cost tens of thousands of dollars I'm already 25k in. I don't think that it's smart to dump anymore serious money into this I feel like I'm just going to get deeper and deeper until I'm spent more than I bought the house for. My thoughts are if I go get an apartment I can get my s*** back together and make some money and just go buy a nicer house a few years.

>>60799420
what would the manliest of men do? I would stay and fix the house up 100%, if I didn't think that this was going to affect my child's lungs but I am pretty sure if my lungs are sore every morning then his are also going to be affected much more. In fact there's plenty of research and article suggesting as much so ultimately I just don't think it's worth it I would gladly lose 80k to preserve my offsprings well-being

>>60799420
Yeah, he sounds like a fucking cuck, jesuschrist. Just paint the fucking walls, it's not radioactive waste.

>>60799421
>Any advice?

get a specialist looking and screening for aspergillus NIGER.
no joke

>>60799420
>not wanting to breathe in poison makes you weak
I love how you faggots thing
>inject vax chemical = onionboy
>don't want to breathe chemicals = onionboy

>>60799470
It's a fair argument and that was with my plan I actually have most of the material to do it. The problem is I've read a lot of stories about people who paint the walls and all this s*** and the smell is still there and they have to replace the drywall. I've also heard stories about painting the walls and problem goes away. The question is does this really solve the problem with the air quality because that's the main issue I don't really care about the'smell' I care about the air quality and my lungs being sore and it probably affecting my child's lungs. Oh and the entire house has popcorn ceilings so I need to remove all of that which I actually got a tool to do and I'm willing to do it. I just don't know if all of this work is going to be worth it and I need to find a place for my child to breathe safely during all this renovation. An option would be to rent an apartment and just go do the work on the weeks I don't have my kid. But ultimately this is pretty much radioactive s*** because it's f****** my lungs up every night I go away from the house and my chest is still sore it's definitely coming from the house

>>60799482
Yeah I didn't take the vax. I did get the flu or covid or whatever the f*** it was when it was going around and that's one of the main reasons I can't smell and therefore didn't realize what the f*** I was getting into

>>60799487
Have a ciggarette. That ought to wake your nose up pussy.

>>60799410 (OP)
paint the walls, remove all fabrics like curtains (i know you removed carpets but remove any others). this all being the issue is most likely mould, not some fucking stale smoke nigga

>>60799482
>breathe in poison
>poison
it is a fucking odour. a smell. you're entire OP is a LARP faggot.

>>60799484
Maybe there’s mold? I don’t think smoke ash would mess with your lungs like that. It should be mostly settled.

Literally get an ozone generator for 200 bucks.

I've never used one myself, but I've heard miracles. You just let it run in your house for 12-24 hours and it apparently breaks down the impregnated smoke down at the molecular level. I've heard stories of people who rent out their apartment, turns out the tenant smoked in it for a year, and then they thought it was a lost cause, but the ozone made it like new

Ozone not being good for your lungs, let it air out for a while after

>>60799493
>it is a fucking odour. a smell. you're entire OP is a LARP faggot.
Ok faggot. And the vax is just a liquid, a group of cells. Being in smokers house can fuck your health up. Next thing you know you have a little cough.

>>60799500
I've definitely heard that a lot but I think it is kind of the last step after you clean and paint the walls Etc but I've also heard that ozone is bad long-term as well. And for you guys saying that it's just a smell and it's probably mold well I suppose that is possible but the whole concept of third hand smoke is you coming very well studied and apparently very real the formaldehyde and other chemicals off gas from the tar and s*** stuck on the walls. I do have a UV light and a HEPA filter on my HVAC so I would think if it was mold it would be improving but f*** I don't know maybe there's molds sitting somewhere in some drywall. The basement did leak pretty bad for who knows how long before I put the drain tile in there. But I don't really think there's any mold other than there was one spot in the corner of the basement that I cleaned up that was only a few inches

Kilz can work wonders sealing odors in floors.
I had family that let animals ruin an old carpeted room and I could smell the room from 50 ft away.
Ripped out the carpeting and foam and Re-sealed it with kilz and its like it never happened.
It can also be used on walls I'm sure.
HVAC is another story. I dont have experience in that.

>>60799518
>ozone is bad in the long term as well

Do some more research then. It literally exists in nature, and is created during thunderstorms, which is why thunderstorms have that distinctive smell. It has a half life of about a day. It's not "bad in the long term" you just use it once to get rid of the smell at the molecular level. Yes, if there is literal layers of grime on the walls you'll want to scrape that off first, but try the ozone first before resorting to completely redoing the inside.

>>60799520
I was thinking of going a step further and using this zinsser bin shellac, it's supposed to be the most nuclear option but it's alcohol-based and it's the kind of thing that you don't really want to touch without a Very Good Vapor respirator and even then I hear stories about how it makes you see little green aliens. My thoughts are that it's a pretty big risk to spend more money and put more work into it at this point when I could just walk away lose my money and move on with my life

>>60799504
>Being in smokers house
inhaling their second hand smoke is what fucks you up. the smoke. not the smell in the curtains.

>>60799548
Look up third hand smoke.

>>60799451
lmao I bet it is.
OP you gotta like scrub the walls/blinds/floors with soap or something. the tar is like a film stuck to everything. good luck.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/CleaningTips/comments/177luc9/cleaning_up_heavy_smokers_house/

>>60799560
>third hand smoke

>moves to apartment
>next door neighbour is smoker
>*plot twist*
>next door neighbour is ME

>>60799548
>inhaling their second hand smoke is what fucks you up. the smoke. not the smell in the curtains.
Listen to yourself
>if you are in a room with a smoker who is smoking, that's unhealthy for you
>but if you are in a room where someone smoked for decades and you can clearly still smell it, that's not bad for you

>>60799567
There's definitely something f****** with my lungs and third hand smoke is something well talked about on the internet and in the science community not that I always trust the scientists or anything but I mean it's definitely not just made up s*** they do have things they can test with you know

Start by tearing out all the drywall in your kid's room and replacing it. Create a good environment for the kid to sleep in first. Then do the same to every remaining room. Limit time spent in other rooms with the kid. Go to the park a lot, go to the library, go out to eat, avoid spending time inside until you replace all the drywall.

you have insurance right?
burn the fucker down lol
just dont be a retard and make it obvious it was intentional

>>60799602
Holy shit man, that's probably good advice but I think I'd rather lose 80k than replace all the drywall in the entire house. Hell it would probably cost about the same. Idk, maybe I could do it myself but how much would diy replacing drywall realistically cost for 1700 sq ft, half of it with vaulted ceilings lol, sounds like a fucking nightmare.

>>60799410 (OP)
Ozone machine and someone who knows what they’re doing can get the smell out

>>60799410 (OP)
>advice
Ozone generators, several, let them run for a week while you live somewhere else. Return, open all windows for a day+.

>>60799419
Based

>>60799420
This. But fuck smokers too.

>>60799500
>>60799534
>>60799709
>>60799716
if you're gonna use an ozone machine, you should also move everything made of plastic or rubber into storage first, because ozone reacts with those and utterly fucks them up (and also produces toxic and smelly VOCs as a byproduct)

>>60799761
This is why I'm reluctant to use ozone at all. Seems like there are lots of drawbacks and might just make things worse. I'm going to see if I can make arrangements to sleep elsewhere while I work on it. if I can't I'm probably just going to eat the loss, this isn't worth my health and definitely not worth my child's health. I was planning on going hard diy everything, but waking up with sore lungs for 2 months in a row has really swayed my opinion and killed my drive. I'm starting ti feel tighter and tighter in my chest and getting headaches now too.

>>60799779
yeah I wouldn't be super comfortable using an ozone machine either, so I empathize.

but I will say that lots of people on [website name redacted] swear by using an ozone machine and then painting all the walls and subfloors with KILZ primer.

also, if you're in the market for an air purifier, the BlueAir 211+ is the undisputed champ.

>>60799410 (OP)
You gotta rip up the subfloor and teardown the walls and ceiling and get new windows for real also why the fuck did u not get a home inspector

>>60799410 (OP)
Spend the 30k hit your willing to take on replacing all drywall

>>60799855
He could've saved a headache if he didn't buy the dirtbag house of the neighborhood

>>60799818
I did get an inspector, he didnt say shit about smoke :/

New subfloor and walls sounds fucking insane. I doubt i can properly diy that and it would have to cost what... 50-90k professionally? Idk.. i have seen a lot of youtube vids of much worse smoke damage and they just scrub and paint and claim its gone, but these are rentals and who knows how long its really 'gone'. Heard lots of stories of it coming back

>>60799869
I know its different but my car was heavily smoked in and an ozone machine fixed it

>>60799484
dude do not touch the popcorn ceilings especially if your house is from the 70s or 80s
get some sort of interior grade sealnt and paint everything with it, tear out all the carpet and replace it with cork floor or something environmentally friendly, and cover the ceilings after theyre sealed with some panels if you dont like them

if you start taking the popcorn ceiling down and the city finds out they are gonna make you stop and hire asbestos abatement crew , then you will be crying $$$$$

>>60799484
>Oh and the entire house has popcorn ceilings
Wow. Why did you buy that specific place? That was really retarded.

>>60799518
>I've also heard that ozone is bad
It's bad immediately. You don't live in the house while the ozone generator is chugging away. You turn it on and then go live somewhere else until you go back and turn it off.

>>60799410 (OP)
I bought a smoker's house as well and after ~1 year, we couldn't really smell it at all and now 2 years in, no issues. Tear out all of the carpet and replace and then use something like Kilz, which is a primer that kills/traps odors and it really works. We primed the whole house and repainted. I don't think residual smoke smell would make your lungs sore, however. You mention water issues which i bet were the real problem (maybe created mold). Try to see if you have mold or something b/c i'm not so sure it's the smoke. Cheer up, you'll be alright.

>>60799912
almost all houses up to even 2000 have popcorn ceiling in north america. boomers are so stupid here that they will do full renos of everything before selling their place and leave the popcorn ceiling in when they could have just replaced that too. theyre so ugly . up until the 90s they had asbestos too so they have to get removed by a certified crew

sleep in a bubble boy tent for now?

>>60799410 (OP)
>Any advice?
I suggest you stop lying you bait posting faggot.
Also: Wrong board. Fuck off >>>/adv/

>>60799410 (OP)
get good quality large sqft air purifiers in all major rooms, ACTIVATED carbon/charcoal near the filters, preferably filters themselves also has this. lots of spread out activated charcoal and carbon. scrub the walls replace the really bad ones .
activated carbon/charcoal will trap the tiny small particles and then you can take it outside in the sun and shine on it for a few days and reuse it assuming you live in a sunny hot dry climate.

cheapest solution

>>60799410 (OP)
>HEPA on hvac
That’s not what duct filters are for
They are to protect the blower motor. You get a dedicated filter for hepa

>>60799779
I used it on a rental for cat smell and it had a positive effect. Just air the place out after it’s not a big deal

>>60799923
I like popcorn ceiling you can daydream with it

>>60799887
I already had the poopcorn tested, no asbestos. Appreciate the tip

>>60799912

Idk man, it.has a lot.going for it. Huge shed, awesome neighborhood surrounded by 300, 400, 500k houses, 1/3rd acre lot. If I didnt wake up with sore lungs I'd be extremely happy here just doing slow fixes over time. I just feel oveewhelmed with no respite.

>>60799913

Idk, if there is mold.it's hidden really well. The basement did have water problems but there is no.visible mold where the water was or anywhere in the basement. There is some in the garage drywall but its just a bit at the bottoms in spots. The bedrooms are above the garage so i guess its possible. The thing is, if I sleep near the floor (tried one night) I smell a disgusting chemical/ashtray sort of smell, so I really think thats the main issue.

>>60799923

Ya its tge dumbest shit. Boomers aee so fucking stupid, there was glue all over basement floor for their carpet and an entire bedroom was covered in glue that i sanded up. Boomers are the epitome of 'not my problem'

>>60799947
Ive seriously thought about an rv or tent or something..

>>60799950
Who ir what exactly would this be bait for? It's a financial advice question, how does it feel to be dumber than a janny, faggot?

>>60799973
I do have multiple carbon air.filters, they probably help a lot but def not a solution.

>>60799988
It's a dedicated HEPA unit with its own fan attached to my HVAC installed by HVAC pros.

>>60799865
Could've. But now he's here. No sense in bitching about it now, he's gotta do what he can to either remedy or leave the situation

>>60799410 (OP)
Yeah suprised you didn’t use an o3 (ozone generator) to get rid of the smoke smell and air pathogens. You’d have to leave the house while they gas it with o3 assuming you use the same company that comes in after a fire or flood. Plus same thing is used for cars with cigarettes. Amazon has smaller ones that you could do room by room but it’s probably better to rent big ones from the sounds of what your explaining . Plus it kills vermin vs this is how you deal with roach infestations hornets etc

>>60800049
Ozone is a great start. Kilz primer if you need to repaint anything.

>>60800061
https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeImprovement/comments/q3ws4u/ozone_generator_off_gassing_after_treatment_is/

This is why I am reluctant to use ozone at all. In fact, I suspect it is what they already used to mask the smell, and is possibly a large part, or maybe all, of the problem.

>>60799410 (OP)
>oh my god i'm going to die because I smell a little stale smoke
holy shit what a faggot. grow a pair you sissy faggot. growing up my parents and relatives would all chain smoke in the house and in the car (windows up) every day 24/7 and every restaurant, workplace, business etc would be filled with cigarette smoke and we got along just fine

Theres something called a concrobium fogger that you can use to fog rooms for mold. I rented one from a hardware store and it worked well. It just uses washing soda so its very safe. When you prime the walls make sure you've got a voc mask on not a particulate mask (the p100s with pink circles on the ends) those are not for paint fumes, they're for dust. the voc halfmasks are like 20 bucks, if you can smell the primer switch out the filters, they don't last super long, store the filters in plastic bags between painting to get more life out of them.

>>60800137
Did you miss the part where I wake up with sore lungs and I have a young child in the home? Are you suggesting that is normal and indicative of a healthy clean environment?

>I've done x for years and I'm still alive.
>dies two years later of cancer while in 3rd stage dementia

>>60800180
I actually got some concrobium liquid i sprayed on some spots in the basement and garage, didnt realize they had a fog, might be worth looking in to I suppose. I do feel like I'm just stabbing in the wind, and each thrust is 1-5k. It is getting old.

>>60800185
I'm sure you're one of those that said "we're pregnant"

>>60800193
I'm sure you didn't address my argument because you know you have nothing of value to say.

>>60799410 (OP)
>coughing baby vs smokers house

>>60799410 (OP)
Idiot it’s not the smoke there’s mold in the house.

>>60799410 (OP)
Use febreeze nigger

>>60799410 (OP)
Professional here

what we do is go in with drywall and paint guys. We rip out all the drywall and replace it. Then we paint. New carpets and pads. New ductwork.

that's it. if you're sensitive to smoke you have to remodel the whole place.

we can clean it or just paint over it, but if you're super sensitive you're always going to have problems because most of your symptoms are psychological. look up phantom smells. Your brain will actually hallucinate cigarette smoke even after the smell is gone. Cleaning companies know this and won't usually deal with someone like you.

>>60799410 (OP)
you aren't getting lung issues from 3rd hand cigarette smoke you utter pussy.

>>60800379
correct. OP is a neurotic hypochondriac

it's impossible to fix his house because it's not his house that's making him ill. He needs his brain fixed.

>>60799410 (OP)
Get a few O3 machines, leave them running and leave the house for 2 weeks

>>60799451
Lmao I remember that thread. Some salty blue collar cucks

>>60799410 (OP)
Move out, do not put your child at risk! Ok, you lost some money, who cares. You will earn it back.

>>60799410 (OP)
> realtors covered it well
Ask them how, feeblefus

>>60799410 (OP)
Get an ozone machine. That's how car dealers get smoke out of cars and how cigar lounges get the smell out of the lounge.

>>60799410 (OP)
Buy an ozone generator and let it run for a day in every affected room. You cant be there while it runs, especially not the kid or pets. Might want to check in to a hotel for a couple of days, and you just going back to the house to move the ozone generator once a day

>>60799410 (OP)
>being in a smokers room without smoke is not dangerous? Probably suffering from a mental condition like hypochondria, do what ever makes you happy.

>>60799518
Ozone is lighter than oxygen, it goes into the atmosphere

>>60799410 (OP)
Yea I don’t have sympathy go FUCK yourself

>>60799484
>painting the walls and problem goes away
ok try that first
>But ultimately this is pretty much radioactive s*** because it's f****** my lungs up every night I go away
you're panicking, paint first, that is easy
>I care about the air quality
>my kid
Buy $500 of air filters like Coway Airmegas (reviewed by new york times)

Honestly you sound like a hypochondriac.
Here is the tldr. Rent the house out for a couple years and take the rent money and use it for an apartment.

I bought a real dumpster of a house 16 years ago for $20k and had to redo it.
I removed most of the chimney over time but left part of it and just hid it behind drywall next to the bedroom closet.
The thing still particulates after 16 years, so yeah I understand your dilemma a little.
I could remove it completely but I am lazy.
The reality is the smell should gradually go away although there is likely going to be off gassing for a couple years.
As others said scrub the walls, kilz and paint, use a high HEPA air filter in HVAC (if there is tar in the air you will see it on the filter after a month.
Buy an air purifier for your bedroom.
I would make sure it isn't mold or something that isn't causing the problems.

>>60799410 (OP)
Used to smoke. Its in the walls. Repaint, clean ducts, open the windows for 6 months. Itll be gone.

What a retarded reason to sell a house if it's otherwise fine, topical burger mindset

Its in the walls and ceilings depending on the material

There are specialists that remove bad odor from houses, so you better consult someone like that first

My first action would be to get an ozone device that is used for removing smoke odor in cars, you set it up and have to leave for a day, for cars it works wonders, second action is to paint the walls and ceilings new with paint that removes/blocks odor, thats a thing

>>60799761
That doesnt make much sense as ozone generators are used heavily in cars to remove odor and the whole car interior is plastic, maybe only for some kind of plastic?

>>60799469
>what would the manliest of men do?
Start smoking so you can toughen up those baby lungs

>>60799410 (OP)
Remove the carpet, paint every wall and ceiling. You should do this anyways but definitely if there were smokers there before.

>>60799410 (OP)
>Any advice?
You also need a radon mitigation system.

>*blows smoke into OPs Aircon while he's asleep*
This is the most retarded board on 4chan. You have mould.

>>60799410 (OP)
>realtors covered it well
Ask them what they did so that you can do it too

its time to smoke the smokers imo

This thread makes me so anxious

>>60800185
>Did you miss the part where I wake up with sore lungs
yes, hence you're a weak faggot that sadly natural selection no longer exists to weed out
>and I have a young child in the home
like i said when i was a kid (1970s) me and my sisters breathed smoke 24/7 every single day. everyone around me smoked 2 packs a day everywhere i went and we're ok. stop being a weak faggot.

>>60801303
Sup moshe

>>60801310
>jews want goyim to be strong and stop acting like weak faggots
kys zoomer

>>60799518
The rate of decay back into oxygen is very fast. A few hours. You run it for like 3-4 hours, come home and shut it off and open a window then get the fuck out. Then spend another like 3-4 hours out of your house, come home open the rest of the windows, then leave another hour or so and come back.

It will kill plants btw so move those outside first, obviously don’t leave any pets in the house.

It might take 2-3 episodes of this but it works pretty well.

Barring that yea what you need to do is chemically dissolve all the paint off your walls and kilz and repaint but likely it’s in the structure of the home itself, ozone will probably be your only solution.

I used ozone successfully for a nasty smell that was in the paint in a room I had. Knocked the smell out about 95% from running a couple of hours. I could not go into that room before, had to always leave the door open to help it air out. Now it’s just another room, sometimes I get the faintest whiff of that smell which I’m now super sensitive to but it’s not something anyone else would ever notice.

man there is just no way it's "third hand smoke". everyone in the world would have sore lungs.

>>60799410 (OP)
It's alright. Let me tell you about an old friend of mine who thought he had it figured out
>get gf
>buy her a car after a month
>find out she's cheating
>she defaults the payments (duh retard)
>fucks his credit
fast forward a year
>get new gf
>move in with her
>rent your home to sister
>gf kicks you out
>have to move in with dad
>end up renting a shit hole a few blocks away from your beautiful home
I don't know why the miserable prick hasn't offed himself yet.

>>60801031
best advice on the board in years

>>60799410 (OP)
rip all of the drywall out and replace it. ozone is a meme.

>>60800372
>>60800389
I am.probably more sensitive than most, because I smoked for decades myself and have lived in other moldy houses for years. Never once did I have sore lungs like this. It's getting worse too, the longer I stay the tighter my chest feels. I leave the house, stayed at my friends lakehouse for 2 nights recently and felt 100% better. It's not in my head.

>>60800444
Checked and this is probably the answer. Not worth the risk, also not worth dumping more money into, new ducts and drywall is too much.

Fun fact I learned after buying, the last couple that lived here wife died of cancer and husband had a stroke and had to sign his power of attorney over. Seems This house is fucked and so am I for buying it.

>>60800620

I have multiple good air filters and even got an air scrubber with carbon filters, pointed that thing at my face on full blast and slept a little better but lungs are still lightly sore after waking. Fuck this place, 80k isn't worth my health.

>>60799410 (OP)
Buying a house is one of the dumbest things you can do financially.

Any problem when you are renting is literally not your problem.

>>60800635
Maybe there is serious mold hidden somewhere. Whatever it is, I think I'm done trying to find it. I'll leave it to the pros to fix, maybe the cash for homes guy will properly gut it and make it safe for the next buyer but I 'm not qualified and don't want to jeopardize our health any further.

>>60801303
you tell 'em Rabbi

>>60801421
it's in the walls man. You've got to rip out all the drywall and all the insulation. Basically fucking gut it.

>>60801430
In theory yes, but in reality 99% of landlords would not spend a dime on your complaints. I lived in an apartment where the sump pump broke and it smelled so bad in the hallway i held my breath up and down the stairs. Ehit was so much worse when it rained. After apartment told me 5 times to basically fuck off, they're not fixing it...Called health department. After multiple calls and visits from them they finally opened up the wall and the floor joists were completely rotted out, water was just soaking in there for who knows how long.

>>60801441
You're probably right, but I ain't doing that. I'd rather gtfo

>>60801461
can't you legally break the lease if the landlord fails to provide livable conditions? anyway you can just say lol and then move in a few months if it's that bad. almost impossible to sell a fucked up house though, you will lose a lot of money.

>>60799410 (OP)
by some window a/c units and leave the tar infested hvac ducts off for now until you replace them

>>60799560
>third hand smoke

>>60799459
Then your house is full of chemicals

I live next to a sewer water cleaning facility, and cow farms. the water cleaners sometimes use what smells like massive amounts of detergent to mask or combat the smell. in the end, you have an interesting mix of sewage waste, detergent and cow manure

>>60801464
godspeed

>>60799410 (OP)
What a little faggot holy shit.
>>60801031
Based.

>>60801699
I've always felt bad for people who live next to feed lots, can smell that shit for miles, the detergent must make things even worse. I'd want to leave the area, unless you just get used to it. I dont even smell anything in this house, I'm nose blind and don't smell that well anyways, but it's the soreness in my lungs that makes me worry something bad is here.

>>60801730

Thank you.

>leftover smell from cigarettes
>m-m-my lungs hurt!
holy fucking faggot kek

>>60801906
Like I said, I barely smell it, other people can though, especially when they walk in. Maybe it's something else like mold, idk... all I know is it hurts my lungs and that is not good.

>>60799410 (OP)
do you have any carpet left at all? it all has to go bro.

meantime sorry for your loss

>>60799410 (OP)
>doing all of this shit
>not just fucking painting the walls which are covered in smoke residue
Do people really?

>>60801923
There is still some carpet in the living room and I'm very tempted to tear it up. Then I have nothing but subfloors. I do feel like if I want to keep going that is the next step.

>>60799410 (OP)
Did you not get a home inspection? I got a $100 air quality test done before I bought my place.

>>60802119
I did get an inspection but they didn't do an air quality test. I fucking wish they did.

>>60801421
If you're dead set on leaving the house and not trying to fix the problem any further then why not rent it out and use the money to pay for your apartment like the other anon said? You also mentioned that you're surrounded by more expensive houses. Didn't you question why your house was drastically cheaper than the rest or am I missing something here?

I still think you should try a few of the cheaper, simpler solutions suggested ITT like using an ozone generator and checking if they work before making a final decision.

>>60799869
(((Inspector)))
Did you not walk the fucking property yourself before you spent $200000? You richfags ARE retarded. What's the saying about a fool and his money?

Can't believe this troll thread is still up

>>60799469
>what would the manliest of men do?
Do nothing because they aren't huge faggotrons bothered by a vague remain of smoke odor? Actually the manliest men probably smoke a pack of unfiltered brune cigs inside a day so they'd enjoy the added flavor.

>>60799534
>It literally exists in nature,
So does arsenic.

Ozone destroys your lungs and your eyes in short order. OP cannot remain in the house while doing this treatment. Ozone also damages literally everything -- plastics, fabrics, paper, wood, absolutely anything that is left inside the house will see oxidation as a result of highly-reactive ozone reacting with the stuff.

>>60799923
>almost all houses up to even 2000 have popcorn ceiling in north america.
Bullshit, popcorn ceilings were a relatively small fad that died out by the end of the 1970s. I've lived in exactly one house that had them, and that was a short-term rental that was custom-built in probably the 1960s but maybe the 1950s by a weird old lady who thought she was an architect.

>>60799410 (OP)
>their fee
you can be your own agent in a transaction and pocket that yourself.

>>60799410 (OP)
get some magic plants, maybe they'll fix the air, idk
https://youtu.be/ib-D1EelH4Y

how degenerate do you gotta be to smoke in your own house

>>60799410 (OP)
just burn incense/candles like your life depends on it, eventually it will overtake the cig smell. Also just paint the fucking house, even the cheapest white paint will remove any smell

Replace the carpets and use an ozone generator to oxidize the tobacco smelling compounds.

Wipe all hard and porous surfaces with ozium and at the point the tobacco smell will be 90% removed. Also recommend using an air purifier for a few months during this process.

It will take time

>>60803085
maybe in whatever part of USA you are in but here in Canada they are prevalent everywhere, most houses built all the way up to 2000 have them. sometimes in in the mid 2000s they started with just flat smooth ceilings

do people really smoke inside a house? with carpet?

>>60800847
For cars, you're only supposed to use an ozone generator for 30 minutes maximum.

Try leaving an ozone generator running inside your car for 8+ hours and see what happens -- then you'll believe me.

>>60804139
I left mine on for 4 hours in my apartment. All you have to do is open all windows and doors for 30 minutes in order to get the ozone out. The smell definitely lingers tho

>>60799410 (OP)
>Any advice?
Yeah it's not the smoking that's fucking up your lungs. It's smells like ass but a few weeks without adding to it there isn't any health hazards.

Get a meth test kit.

Ozone machine. Look into it. You're welcome, Anon.

OP is lowkey a troll because replacing drywall isn't that big a deal. And that's the first thing to consider. The walls are contaminated? Tear them out.
>use sledgehammer and crowbar and hammer to tear out drywall
>buy new drywall
>hire someone to help you hold new drywall up where old drywall was
>against the wall
>dry
>wall
>nail in place

There. You drywalled. Repeat process until room is drywalled. Then you fill in the gaps between drywall pieces, use drywall tape, and fucking paint it. It's that easy.

The hard part of framing and installing electrical has already been done for OP.

>>60801938
Cigarette smoke likes to embed itself deeply into fabrics You need to either remove all carpet, drapes, furniture, beds and even wallpaper (fabric backing), if present.

>>60804311
I've worked on homes and would never use drywall for anything.

>>60799410 (OP)
Before you start spending money on some random shit get an expert that can check the house for mold.

OP is a dumb homosexual

>>60799410 (OP)
>sore lungs
This isn't a smoker issue, this is a mold issue. You need to get out asap regardless

>>60799410 (OP)
Get some large square footage air purifiers. BluAir and Coway make good ones. Also unless your ducts are in the walls, doing the ductwork yourself isn't too hard. You can get all sizes of flex duct at home depot, and you can go to an hvac store and get large sheets of duct board to cut out plenums yourself. Then just get mastic and foil tape to seal connections. Watch some tutorials, it's really not that difficult, just a little tedious.

>>60806817
Not to mention, open up teh side panel on your air handler (turn off power to it first.) Check inside to see if the blower or condenser are grimy at all, and spray some of that foamy coil cleaner on it and rinse it off.Just dont get the wires wet.

>>60799869
Ohhh gaba goo Inspector Gadget over here, didn't u know, he smokes too!

You want a professional grade air purifier. Airpura has larger models(R614 / R714 / V614 / V714) that have 18 lbs of carbon in them, very good for Odors/VOCs/Chemicals. Or the IQAir healthpro plus, they used those in hospitals during covid.

>>60799410 (OP)
Don't sell out so soon, anon. I think that will just fuck you. I was going to suggest ripping up carpets and HVAC cleaning but you already did that. I would definitely put an air cleaner in the kid's room and yours too, if not every room. I would suggest sanding and repainting. If they just painted over the smoked laden paint then that could be a source of your irritation. Other places smoke residue can hide is in cracks in the walls. I would seal those up before repainting. Last thing is try your best to open the house up and air it out with fresh outside air (open windows/doors, set up box fans to force ventilation). I recognize that it is the heat of summer so that may not be a realistic option if it is 98 outside like it is here. You have some work ahead of you but the alternative is that you would be taking a 15-30% haircut on your money AND have to find something new to move into. Moving with a family is a huge huge hassle. Call your boys (I hope you have some). Say you are in a bad jam and need a solid. Say you'll pay it back in spades. Buy a 30-rack of beer. Sand the subfloors and all the walls. Repaint. See if that does the trick. I bet it would help. Make sure to wear proper PPE when sanding, BTW. Sanded cig smoke + old paint is about is about as bad as it gets for your lungs outside of huffing asbestos.
P. S. One thing I forgot to mention is that you might be able to contact your realtor and get them to cover or split the cost of a crew deep clean. Realtors have those guys on retainer and if you pitch a big enough fit the realtor might help you cover it.
>>60799480
Probably a good idea to be safe but I thought Aspergillus was only common in marijuana? Or am I mistaken? Still, contacting a professional would be good.

>>60799484
>Oh and the entire house has popcorn ceilings
Found the source of the issue. That shit needs to be gone YESTERDAY nigga. I mean right now, today, on a Sunday, start tarping your floors and furniture and get to work. Send the wife and baby to grandma's (either). Or a hotel. Do the baby's room first. I'm not playing. Do this Now.

>>60799887
Oh fuck off, the city can suck my dick.
>sorry Mr inspector but it was like this when I moved in. You mean the renovation contractors didn't get the proper permitting? Well I don't even know who did the work
Drive around town and leave the bags in various apartment and gas station dumpsters.

>>60799410 (OP)
Ozone generators. Don’t be in the house while they are running, it will kill you

>>60799869
Don't listen to them, you don't have to replace the subfloor and drywall. Sanding plus new texture plus new paint will do the trick. Don't forget to repaint the ceiling after scraping the popcorn.

>>60799410 (OP)
it is probably mold spores coming through the floorboards and walls, and bacterial endotoxin and stale air from the nice hvac you installed.

just open some windows and rely on cross breezes for fresh air, install a water feature and plants in your bedroom.

>>60799410 (OP)
>Any advice?
Have you considered becoming a smoker?

this shit is easy to fix. Just dont be a bitch

>>60799653
Just go rent a new house, rent yours out, stack BTC, sell in three years.
>>60801098
Same and seeing the boomer/gen x responses makes me hate them even more.

>>60807031
>you probably have mold so you should install a water feature inside your house

>>60799410 (OP)
Did you scrub the house from top to bottom with lemon scented cleaner? My house stank of pet odors when I bought it, but with enough cleaning, it helped get rid of it. Also, keep a small, open thing of baking soda in each room to help absorb the smell. Coffee in your kitchen can also help cover the smell.

>>60799410 (OP)
>>wake up every morning with sore lungs
>smoker's house
anon, I doubt it's the smoke. do you have some trees in the house? maybe mold in the HVACs? the popcorn ceiling as >>60806942 said?
you need to DETERMINE what's the source of whatever shit you are breathing. I guess you could kind of diy by covering all walls, the ceiling and floor of your bedrooms and then checking which one has the most dust.
get the house checked by professionals before wasting more money on useless crap.
also get a mask if you will do it yourself.

beware of ozone, it can fucking kill you.

>>60799469
>Bro replacing the Ducks would cost tens of thousands of dollars I'm already 25k in
clean them yourself then, retard.

why did you ask here? people in this board are useless internet tough guys. go ask >>>/diy/ instead

>>60808264
here's a video on how to remove the popcorn ceiling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-5TM07MI50
and a comment that might be useful:
>Save yourself a great deal of time and struggle: get a garden pressure sprayer ($15 at Harbor Freight) and mix up a 1 part vinegar to 4 parts warm to near hot water. Dealing with a painted popcorn ceiling? Take the putty knife and drag it and scrape it over the popcorn as to knock off the tops of each popcorn. This exposes a small area for the warm water and vinegar to penetrate and greatly loosen the material. The vinegar totally unlocks the glue like bond. Wait about 15 minutes, reapply another quick coat. Now your popcorn ceiling will come off like hot butta.