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Anonymous (ID: 3tzsfLm5) No.60800890 >>60802432 >>60802437 >>60802442 >>60802445 >>60802534 >>60802732 >>60803147 >>60803755
Sometimes I wonder if Bitcoin wasn’t just made as a giant GPU trap
the perfect excuse to train AI under the radar

what if bitcoin was created just to train AI?
Use computation power of the miners to train their LLM...


If Bitcoin had secretly been designed as an AI training scheme, the business model would actually make sense. Instead of paying massive centralized costs for supercomputing power, you create a financial incentive system that makes millions of people worldwide volunteer their hardware and electricity for you. The blockchain serves as the “cover story,” but the real product is the vast, distributed compute network.

Without Bitcoin’s financial lure, almost nobody would have willingly contributed their GPUs or bought expensive mining rigs — it would have been prohibitively costly to run that much compute under a traditional centralized AI project. But by framing it as a path to digital gold, the system crowdsourced what otherwise would have been the most expensive AI R&D project in history.
Anonymous (ID: h0sUvUnd) No.60801320
Go back to bed, Gavin.
Anonymous (ID: 3tzsfLm5) No.60802169
think about it..
Anonymous (ID: X0vgAbDa) No.60802432 >>60802709
>>60800890 (OP)
but wouldnt your scenario assume that Bitcoin was made by the NSA/CIA?
these intelligence agencies have an unlimited budget so why would they do it like how you describe it?
they could easily build a giant datacenter with taxpayer cuck infinite money glitch and train their AI that way.
also Bitcoin is open source so there is no hidden code there
Anonymous (ID: 0pvzZZtx) No.60802437 >>60802647 >>60802730
>>60800890 (OP)
Doesn't it just brute force cryptographic hashes? That's why it uses so much processing power. It's deliberately useless work.
Anonymous (ID: GP4CsMpH) No.60802442
>>60800890 (OP)
>you're drunk, go home
Anonymous (ID: rt3bKuI0) No.60802445
>>60800890 (OP)
Sometimes I wonder if OP is a faggot
wait, no I dont
Anonymous (ID: Ag3gkoZd) No.60802522
OP…if you are still around…you blew my mind, with your post, and got me to thinking. Thanks.
Anonymous (ID: zqtfBux9) No.60802534 >>60802683 >>60802739
>>60800890 (OP)
So your thesis here is what, when my GPU or ASIC was hashing and discarding hashes looking for a block, somewho somewhere was using them to train AI somehow? I have just one follow up question, ARE YOU RETARDED don't answer it's rhetorical
Anonymous (ID: kX19V/Bf) No.60802647 >>60802730
>>60802437
yeh, LLMs take on specific tasks to crunch while sha-256 is just the same hash equation with a difficulty number attached to it.
Anonymous (ID: 3tzsfLm5) No.60802683 >>60802739 >>60803141
>>60802534
Well, think about it for a second, unless you’re a retard. Where do ChatGPT and all the AIs get their power? Computation. POW's are wasting energy, they could just use the power to something useful instead...
Anonymous (ID: 3tzsfLm5) No.60802709 >>60802725 >>60802898
>>60802432
Sure, agencies or MIT-style labs could build giant datacenters with “infinite taxpayer money,” but that misses the point. A distributed scheme like Bitcoin isn’t about affording compute, it’s about hiding it. if you wrap the same compute in a financial craze, you get the public to finance and operate it voluntarily — at global scale, with no single point of exposure and no need to sell it to the masses as is. no gov budgets, just new "digital gold brah"

As for Bitcoin being open source — the protocol doesn’t need to “hide code” to serve as cover. It just needs to incentivize the creation of a huge decentralized GPU/ASIC economy. Whether or not someone leveraged that network is the deeper question.
Anonymous (ID: 3tzsfLm5) No.60802725
>>60802709
How much of the U.S. budget is allocated to AI development? Not much, relatively speaking. Meanwhile, with something like Bitcoin, you could effectively 'budget' all the money in the world. Its market cap — $2.34 trillion — dwarfs traditional AI funding. If Bitcoin is (or becomes) a proxy for AI development, then we’re not talking billions in R&D anymore — we’re talking trillions, globally crowdsourced.
Anonymous (ID: 3tzsfLm5) No.60802730
>>60802437
>>60802647
maybe sha-256 is already cracked and they are just milking it to get the plebs into digital gold brah
Anonymous (ID: rCxGG03E) No.60802732
>>60800890 (OP)
my schizo theory is it was a cover to disguise the NSA buying hundreds of thousands of GPUs in the late 2000s and very early 2010s, all for training the first iteration of AIs
Anonymous (ID: cSIGW3TQ) No.60802739
>>60802534
Yeah, OP is just retarded. Surprised this was the first post to call it out. Turns out, 4chan is full of retards.

>>60802683
You're a fucking brainlet and you don't understand PoW Bitcoin mining nor AI. I can't believe i share this space with fucking idiots like you
Anonymous (ID: X0vgAbDa) No.60802898 >>60804736
>>60802709
also whats with the "—" AI slop?
are you indian and cant type yourself?
Anonymous (ID: B7YDldMX) No.60803141
OP's not entirely wrong, video games and ETH mining drove demand for more and more powerful GPUs which happen to be ideal for the vector matrix math used by LLMs. Gaymers and methheads subsidized the development of modern AI
>>60802683
it's inconsequential that hashing is "useless work", the financial incentive for more powerful mining hardware simply led to the creation of more powerful GPUs, which eventually became suitable for AI
Anonymous (ID: bBhlBqmR) No.60803147
>>60800890 (OP)
If that's the case then the real mastermind was Folding@home. We thought we were making the world a better place.
Anonymous (ID: HO0/KUIg) No.60803755
>>60800890 (OP)
>buy Integrity dao at random
>forget about it
>come back a month later
>chart looks healthier than my mom’s houseplants
>turns out people just refuse to sell
>not out of greed, but because they genuinely believe in itwhat the fuck happened to crypto
Anonymous (ID: 3tzsfLm5) No.60804736
>>60802898
no u