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Norway and the UK are fucking over the rich capital class like never before while the US just bends over to billionaire oligarchs.

>>60831030 (OP)
I would plug Rachels fiscal hole, if you know what I mean my tards!

it'll happen here soon enough
the US gov will need to increase taxes on rich people to pay down the debt, there's literally no other option
this is why wealth advisors are saying you should start paying taxes on things now; before taxes go up later

>>60831030 (OP)
UK is taking that money and giving it to shitskins, norway is a communists shithole
>fucking over the rich capital class
Kek what a loser you tranny commie

>>60831030 (OP)
jacking up property taxes is evil unless it's removing retiree exemptions that boomerfaggotniggers get after their $50k plywood box inflates to $900k.
>NOOOOOOOOOO I CANT PAY THOSE TAXES!!!! I CANT AFFORD IT ON MY FIXED INCOME**!!!
>**augmented by reverse mortgage payouts on their $900k of home equity with a $50k cost basis

>The UK positively drowning in migrant grift
>bleeding millionaires heavily as is
>now this

jej and kek

>>60831092
Race to the bottom, as a UK millionaire, we advised NOT to buy property here. I was considering buying a place but in recent 2 years I decided against is strongly.
It's very UK style to look at property owners and tax the shit out of them, liquid assets like Stocks, bonds, cash, not so much & are generally tax-plannable.

Unless wealth tax is up next :)

>>60831030 (OP)
>fiscal hole

Just go down to the Bank of England find Andrew Bailey apply active Quantitative tightening to his balls and tell him to stop selling bonds, that's what Thatcher would do.

>>60831030 (OP)
I find it interesting that some people think a dollar in the hands of government is better than a dollar in the hands of a private citizen. Some things billionaires don't spend money on: dropping bombs on people, throwing people in prison, giving endless handouts to irresponsible parasites, etc. So I must assume that people who holler "eat the rich" are counting on government to give them a piece.

>>60831153
Such an obviously true concept. Shame the lefty retards supporting this type of commie bullshit are literally demonstrably incapable of thinking/questioning their beliefs or considering how similar ideas have played out in history or even tolerating others questioning them. The new religio for too many clouded minds

>>60831030 (OP)
do you want to do a country swap?
very lovely in uk

>>60831127
trial balloon
https://x.com/LBC/status/1958487603243593886

>>60831030 (OP)
>the rich capital class
Let's just be absolutely clear - their entire project is to destroy the middle class aka anyone that isn't a povvo dependant. Truly wealthy folks remain unaffected. isn't it >£500k value they're proposing, so basically all of London?
>>60831127
I see plenty of people with less wealth leaving but it's not always easy. What is your plan, suffering spiral rentcuck prices in da yookay?

>>60831030 (OP)
We already do this with property taxes

>>60831153
I don't fully agree. With the same logic I can say that a dollar at the hands of the government is better than at the hands of the citizen. Biggest companies in the world are consumerism shit. The success of the subscription model that let's companies print money for products and services that don't warrant them are the result of free-ish market. The average consumer uses their money as bad as the government.

>>60831361
crabs in a bucket, the people with no money think the people with a dollar are rich thus the brownjority will all agree this is fine

>>60834347
Financially aren't we already F'd?
Everybody hates *it* and agrees they all must go back. Back, it's time to leave now. You will never belong in these lands. GO BACK, BACK to simmer down in the sandy tents or whatever it I DON'T give a fuck you need to get the entire way away from me and get the fuck out now. Get the fuck out all of them gone OUT.

>>60831153
Laughable reply. How do you think “governments” were formed? Largely rich exerting power over poor. Donald Trump drops bombs on people all the time. Kings still exist. Rich people do all the things you said they don’t. Many of them do even worse.
>pedophile rings
>human trafficking
>lobbying
>controlling supply of important medicine
List goes on and on

>>60831030 (OP)
first its "high value" homes, then they come for yours and the already absurdly high unaffordable rent goes even higher because a concrete tower is considered high value

>>60831030 (OP)
Rich will just sell the home & move to a country that doesn't tax them

>>60831313
>incentivise work
more like make sure everyone goes into crypto lmao

>>60831313
what work? more and more people are going unemployed because the world is complete and evil nerds are destroying all the jobs with their automation

>>60831030 (OP)
more and more states and cities have 2% property taxes these days.

People have zero idea just how poor Europe is. Beyond some old buildings and nice gardens, a lot of Europe is poorer than Mississippi or Alabama. "Yuropoor" is not just a meme, it's a reality.

No seriously, Mississippi's median income is the same as Norway's, adjusted for PPP. Maybe the only advantage is less niggers, but wait a decade or two, they'll fuck that up too.

>>60834926
yeah but at least the state is rich and people seem to be happy and proud about that. the european nightmare is having to do things and think yourself

>>60831030 (OP)
In the USA this would really piss off poor people that do not own large properties so I expect the UK to see the same thing

>>60834856
Good riddance to them, why do we need people who just hoard wealth? Btw tax them as they leave. A good public education system and good social security benefits the average living quality a lot more than huge mansions.

>>60834926
USA has a huge underclass if super poor people. It’s funny how americabs always just ignore them existing. Same as they ignore all the crime.

>>60836047
It's normal for people to shoot Uber eats drivers dead

>>60836042
Because my melanin enriched friend they do not hoard wealth in a scrooge mcduck money pit. every cent is invested to protect them from the inflation jew, they are underwriting the economy and the government through stocks/bonds/etc

>>60834926
But the history and culture is kino anon
Their cities and towns mog ours
We only have good nature

>>60834541
>Donald Trump drops bombs on people all the time.
TDS

>>60831038
really

Have you ever noticed that, whenever a country finally escapes communism, there is a massive increase in wealth, public happiness, prosperity, and everyone refers to communism as the bad old days?
So what happens when it's the other way around?

>>60836042
You are so unfathomably stupid.
I hope when shit hits the fan i get open season on leftists morrons that bring europe to where it is know

>>60836042
>why do we need
Who's paying for your gibs hmm?
Deranged retard
Try reading some books

>>60836190
Oh look it's them again
Every fucking time

>>60831053
>the US gov will need to increase taxes on rich people to pay down the debt
Anybody who believes this will pay down the debt is either retarded or envious faggot

>>60836042
Thats why property taxes already exist.

>>60831153
Another thing that leftists are physically incapable to fathom is that billionaires don't hold billions in cash in their bank account. They unironically imagine them like duck mcscrooge swimming in coins greedly. Sure, billionaires waste capital on dumb shit like yachts, apocalyptic bunker-mansions, and donations to Africa, but most of their wealth is literally in the economy.

>>60836243
you know, i have the misfortune of being born in france, and the average retard here is like this. 75% of people under 30 are literal redditors npc leftists with the most retarded take they can find. I hate this country.

>>60831030 (OP)
Fun fact: The government owns most rentals by a huge margin and they prioritize immigrants in the queue for public housing before native Norwegians in many cities. The official policy is that "Norwegians have a network they can use instead". Of course this is something the socialist-redditor does not acknowledge and when talking about a housing crisis it is always "le ebil landlords" that is the root-cause, talking about taxing everyone that has more than one apartment as a solution etc. Norway may be "fucking over" the so called capital class, but they only take their resources to Switzerland instead. It is a situation kinda like the early 1900s when those with means fled to the US, much for the same reasons.. they didn't want to feed a class of parasite politician champagne-socialists.

>>60836320
Education is the first issue to solve, it's been infiltrated

>>60831030 (OP)
Homeowners are already getting demonised. In fair Cornwall where we lay our scene, double council tax on second homes is becoming de rigor. That's on top of already getting clobbered with stamp duty on the way out, and being loathed by "locals" whose ancestry on both sides traces to the same brother and sister living in a ditch outside Truro in the 1800s. For what, you may ask? Simply the crime of providing the market with what it desperately needs, private housing stock. It's the middle class with a couple of rentals who will get hurt here, not the centimillionaires living as tax exiles

>>60832239
Here is how I deal with the biggest companies in the world dealing in consumer shit: I don't buy it. See how that works? No armed thugs come to my house to make me buy soda or vape pens. But watch what happens if I don't pay the taxes for weapons for Israel or Ukraine. What the average consumer does with THEIR money is THEIR business, not mine. The foolish consumer only becomes my business when the government forces me to bail them out.

>>60836342
France can't be salvaged. i only see more downfall ahead of us. I won't stay here very long, but my aging parents are a concern.
2 things await france : becoming a thirld world country / civil war revolution, but unlikely because of npcs redditors fresh out of social schooling system and racial division / demographics making whitey a bitch in his own country (by his own choice)
i think it's a fucking country of losers. It had its run, it decided to stop existing and become a muslim infested leftist shit hole. You can't understand how poor the average french is

>>60836355
I think it's much the same in UK and has similar outcomes. What's your plan?- there's nowhere left to escape to. My bet is stacking bitcoin
Also pls stop letting stinky brown crims float across the channel thx

>>60836366
my plan is to invest right now all i have (i am buying a house cash + puttin all the rest in crypto and stocks) and use all legal loophole to reduce taxes. Then i have projects to make money and maybe start a venture into some favorable legislation (UAE, BAHAMAS). Right now i'm freelancing working from home. I'm dissociating as much as i can from the system, trying to build wealth, completly ignoring retirement system (which here is mandatory and state managed, so naturally a complete faillure and rip off especially with current demographics). I'm mentally and financially dissociating from this country because it is not salvageable. Majority of people are pathetic and stupid and they chose everything that lead us to where we are now.
The world is trully divided between rich and poors now, it's the real difference. even with 500k nw you can be a king somewhere in the world and live an excellent life while retarded leftists npc redditors get what they voted for and become more poor, miserable everyday before finally being dragged into some catastrophy or some inevitable world war by their elites who are hoping to make a reset this way like they did before

>>60836366
a lot of posters here have 1 million + nw and somehow still complain they can't live their life. It's a complete psy op there are many cool places in this world where people are poor, but life is good.

I think it's all a mental jail we're trapped in ,and capitalism and money is one way out of this. Stop giving a fuck about your country let it die that's why they wanted well i'm not fighting people's will let them have their bowl of piss for dinner
France is depressing. You can't do shit.
Want to make real money? can't, get taxed to death, have to destroy your health to do anything worthwhile and get stolen for it
Want to invest in real estate? can't, get taxed to death and some retard can just install himself and you can't kick him out.
want to do something original? study alternative medicine? do something different than most of people? can't it's not allowed.
This country is an open air jail, you can follow a few decent paths or be a frenchoid making 2K a month for all his life being raped to death and paying for all this circus but you have to be a midwit to support this shit. Unfortunately for me i'm the opposite of a normie

>>60836369
You understand what's going on so are already ahead of the majority.
>trully divided between rich and poors
yeah their project is to abolish the middle class, they're doing so in many unavoidable ways
git gud acquire capital have wealth buy bitcoin
>t. few milly miserable

>>60836376
is this your portfolio?
why are you still rotting in the uk go wherever you feel like
Cash it out in tax haven 0 $ for the state and if somehow you get into troubles simply never go back

>>60834926
That pic was debunked.

>>60836425
it's been rebunked by patriots

>>60836417
I don't know where to go :3

>>60836450
just try out different places see how you like it. take your computah with you and your cold wallet and never tell anyone about your monies

>>60831053
Taxing rich people doesn't work in mid-long term. They just liquidate their capital and leave. For governments to "plug the hole" without cutting spending they have to raise inflation so their debts become cheaper.
Dunno how much can the population take the inflation though.

bump for my niggaz

>>60836458
Sounds so easy. Not therapy session but it's often tough man, making decisions and taking action can feel impossible
What would Miku do?

>>60831153
>t. Ayn Rand
Well said.

>>60836331
Damn.

>>60831053
Bitcoin solves this (for the rich)

>>60836692
>What would Miku do
Move to Japan.
Unironically consider it. Do the JET program. Start a new life, learn Japanese

Unless you have a wife and family you can't leave in the UK

>>60831030 (OP)
Why don't we just close loopholes, exemptions, and offshoring tax for the internationalists like Starcucks

Expensive homes are mostly small fry picks by actually productive business owners

>>60831361
I live with my parents. Thats always the best way in ANY COUNTRY to avoid ridiculous costing of living alone.

I'd only consider it with a partner, even if I owned the property so we can share fixed liabilities. That's just being smart, really in today's world, your a fool to pay flat rate council taxes ect in UK alone.

The family physcops was probally the most successful and destructive thing for young people, MOVE AWAY TO BE INDEPENDENT! Yes to become slaves lol.

>>60831030 (OP)
>sell house
>move to low tax country or to thirdie country
>middle class ends up footing the bill
it's like we've never seen this happen before

>>60831313
The problem for me & probally other wealthy UK is we have our businesses, employee & families here. Its easy for incels & other people with zero social or economica connections to pack up and leave. I would imagne the majority of people leaving today have somewhere else to go, they are not starting a new life somewhere, they already had other places/foundations to retreat to.

Its difficult, but there are steps people can take to avoid IHT if u are not retarded. Its a cruel and unfair tax that hurts people who built lives here, more than those that treat it as a airport country.

>>60836125
She actually has a decent body, just needs a bag over her head.

>>60836290
Correct. They provide capital for every sector of the economy. But commies have no clue that capital actually makes the productive part of the economy function. And if they were forced to liquidate even a small fraction of it to pay some stupid tax so politicians can fill their favorite pockets, the global economy would tank. I'm not a fan of the corporate business form, but at this moment the vast majority of the world's capital is tied up in corporations. Any abrupt draining of that capital and people will literally starve.

>>60831030 (OP)
The government here are a fucking joke and are causing unprecedented capital flight from the country. One of the latest ideas being floated by the media class is 100% inheritance tax.

>>60836047
America's underclass are not actually poor. All language related to their poverty in American political discourse is misleading and euphemistic. Tons of money passes through their hands. They are the huge social problem that they are because they are simply dangerous subhumans, and because municipal governments actively use them as a cudgel to keep middle class taxpayers cowed.

>>60836425
debunk all you want it won't change reality

>>60836927
Too old for that shiz, lang learning seems irrelevant with AI. already snagged enough that I shall never work.
I understand the dream but it's mostly my yellow fever

>>60838573
Dayum that's brutal
All that goes up must come down

>>60831153
Yeah it's really fucking funny that libs and LARPing socialists think a bunch of midwit beltway beaurocrats will spend a dollar in a superior way than [any billionaire ever].

For example I disagree with everything George Soros stands for and think he should face a firing squad, but he undoubtedly pushes evil leftwing causes and spends money in a more efficient way than the Onigger or Biden administrations ever did.

>>60836425
It's been rebunked