Thread 60831160

FUCKING FINALLY

AAAAHAHAHAHA TRUMP WINS AGAIN

MAGA
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Bullish for precious metals.

>>60831160 (OP)
i'm struggling to understand why we want rate cuts in an inflationary environment.

remember to sell this time

>>60831181
It hasn't been an inflationary environment for like 3 years retard. The whole inflation thing was completely overblown anyway to get people to vote Trump. It was never real.

>>60831160 (OP)
Is this why crypto suddenly started going up just now

>>60831199
Exactly, welcome to the market, strap in for a wild ride and remember to buy high/sell low

>>60831197
This is why you lost in November. Trying to gaslight everyone into believing "There's no inflation or rising crime" etc as everyone was watching the prices go up everytime they went to the grocery store and coming back to their car broken into in the parking lot. Kek

>>60831181
Because the US government needs to roll over trillions of debt by the end of the year

>>60831160 (OP)
>>60831174
>>60831180
>>60831181
>>60831185


wtf why is XRP pumping so hard?

"may warrant"
he's not gonna do it, you thirsty retards

>>60831264
He's gonna do it, jpow is a cuck for the market just like trump.

>>60831232
I voted for Trump retard. I'm just being honest about what the whole inflation narrative was. It was to get low iq retards to vote for Trump, which is necessary to win the presidency. Trump is a pro-business traditional republican pretending to be a populist and I'm perfectly fine with that because it's the only way to prevent communists from taking power.

>>60831253
wrong thread street shitter, who the fuck pays you to shit up other threads

Ironically the fact that the markets reacted so violently to the mere suggestion of a possible rate cut is a strong argument *against* such a rate cut.

We're turning into the Soviet fucking Union. Our government is so remote from the country it rules and so powerful that one offhand statement can fuck everything up -- or salvage it; not not until you get experts to read the tea leaves to see what the statement actually said.

>>60831885
Learn to follow and play along or stay broke. It's so fucking easy making money right now that I don't wanna here nobody's excuses anymore.

>>60831908
I'm making plenty. I still am annoyed by the cryptic bullshit emanating from government at every level (except the White House, for now) instead of plain Jane policy statements.

>>60831285
ok but prices are still going up

>>60831908
ESL

>>60831908
every market crash is preceded by a bunch of morons like you declaring that "omg making money is so easy!!!" what separates the good investors from the bad is timing the exit

>>60831908
She has tits

>>60831160 (OP)
Meanwhile........

>>60831160 (OP)
What does it mean, they will print even more useless zog bucks now?
>>60831174
MIGA

>>60831160 (OP)
Hahaha looks like Trump found his tranny porn stash to blackmail him with
Print money you gay little paypiggy HAHAHAHA

>>60831226
More like: remember to buy high buy low

LMAO captcha

>>60831285
But this kind of communism is good?

>>60831174
>>60831191
>>60831199

>>60831197
Youre fucking retarded.

>>60831962
Every pump is a homosexual like you crying cause you panic sold the bottom and will reply with a fake story about how you actually sold the top as a way to cope.

>>60832018
That's a national security matter. If Intel goes out of business, America becomes 100% reliant on Taiwan for all of its technology, which would make us completely vulnerable to being invaded by China if and when they take back Taiwan.

>>60831978
Damn that's a retarded take. There really is no world where precious metals become THE thing to own. A huge default would lead to one of two scenarios:

>In order to pay everyone back, we print like crazy and hyperinflate
Be in stocks, RE, equities, crypto
>We just let society completely dematerialize
Be in guns, ammo

I guess in scenario B you can throw some bricks of gold at someone's head or something but that seems pretty inconvenient.

>>60831986
>doesn't even know what it means
>posts MIGA anyway
the absolute low IQ state of MIGA spammers.

Do you guys think he would cut rates next month and also in October? If so seems we peak in mid Nov

>>60831908
hi OCPD namefag. are you still posting on your child pornography vpn?

>>60832082
miga means more brrrrrrr for trumps wall streets handlers

>>60832210
Cope

>>60832122
Peak is late 2028. Bitcoin should be between 8-10 million each.

>>60832049
The same arguement can be said for automotive, commodities, etc. Its still communism.

>>60832395
Nobody said 100% free globalized markets work. The best system is one where the government protects domestic markets from foreign competition but allows free markets to exist domestically.

who's ready for 10% inflation?

>>60831160 (OP)
>may warrant
>may

Massive dump in September when the Fed still doesn't cut.

everything you're seeing is a derivative off of these odds.

I dont think he will cut because unemployment is still very low and inflation is still high. People think that trump bitching and whining makes him cut.

>>60831181
Legally, the fed has a dual mandate: full employment and stable prices

The real reasons, however, are: (1) the US gov needs lower interest rates to refinance its debt (2) Trump needs to juice the economy in time for the midterm elections next year. Trump is going to keep putting more pressure on fed officials until they lower rates, up to and including deporting them to El Salvador

>>60831181
We haven't really had a choice for a while but to ultimately seek hyperinflation and destruction of the middle class.

>>60831197
The new MAGA strategy is to just deny reality akin to woke faggots.

>>60831160 (OP)
Is this why everything is green? From ETH to USELESS to LINK, everything in my folio is green. Thanks Mr. Jerome, I guess. How long do these rate cuts boolrooms last again? I forgot...
>>60831232
>Strawman, strawman, rhetoric, strawman
Babbling troglodyte.

>>60833076
>(1) the US gov needs lower interest rates to refinance its debt
Why retards keep repeating that?
No debt will be refinanced. They'll just spend/print more, as ALWAYS happen when interest is low. They don't care.

>>60831160 (OP)
Trump won. Again.

>>60833076
>>60833152
The US gov also needs hyperinflation to pay off the debt.

remember earlier this spring when biz got overrun by liberals who were warning against le heckin empty grocery shelves due to "tariffs"


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>60833152
There are constantly US bonds maturing. Most US bonds have a term to maturity 10 years or less. The US constantly issues fresh bonds to bring in the cash needed to pay back the principal on mature bonds. Hence US interest payments have skyrocketed in recent years, straining the federal budget.

This of course happens on a predetermined schedule. The US can't refinance all its debt at once whenever it likes.

>>60833356
They believed corpo baby boomers who fear mongered for 100 years claiming tariffs were the cause of the great depression. Turns out that countries can't win a trade war against the number 1 (2 if you pretend that China isn't state run) consumer nation that has political will.

>>60831181
Our president is retarded and thinks rate cuts are a reward for having a strong economy.
>>60831197
This strategy performed poorly for the Democrats in 2024.

>>60833404
>>60833356
but producer price index did go up and prices did rise and inflation did rise and it is making americans poorer and investments are floundering in total uncertainty of future industrial policy

>>60831199
Yes. Looks like it's time to sell now and buy the next dip.

>>60833382
Your math ignore the fact that high-interest bonds in a low-interest bond market just skyrocket in value.
That's the reason the government usually never pays the debt, because even if long-term it gets less interest, the upfront cost is way too high.

>>60833580
>PRICES ROSE (on average)
Retard, luxury goods like rolex's increased while food and fuel did not. Things that actually affect the average person didn't go up anywhere near what was predicted.

>>60833623
Food is up hugely. Electricity is up hugely. Gas is only down because OPEC decided to be less stingy with their oil for political reasons.

>>60833623
but you're just lying and being misleading. Big box stores have razor thin margins and now are paying massive tariffs on a majority of their products. There are lagging effects and stockpiling and uncertainty and sticky prices

but you are being dishonest if you are arguing that tariffs dont effect prices

>>60832046
wood picrel

>>60833623
I love paying $23 for a tiny Popeye's wrap, 3 chicken tenders, and 4oz of coleslaw.
Don't really care though because storing wealth in markets make up for it and then some.

>>60833123
This answer is closest to correct, nothing works better to suck all the money/value upwards to the top then does steady inflation.

>>60831160 (OP)
Ridiculous that it took Powell this long.
Criminal, really.

>>60831160 (OP)
this will pump our bags but bring long-term suffering to the general population
is this the price of winning?

>>60833356
I remember liberals screeching “Black Monday” the day tariffs were enacted.
We ended green that day…

>>60831232
Nigga absolutely based for stomping the tranny

>>60833839
In the year 2025 when everyone hates everyone else all you can be grateful for is that it is yourself whomes bags are being pumped.

>>60833829
He got fucked over by Trump not winning in 2020and Biden demanding rates be kept lower when they should have raised in 2021. After that he just adopted a never budge approach until his end term in 2028, but his hand was forced because Trump's strategy needs low rates or it hurts the economy.

Why should rate cuts be boolish when he's scared of unemployment? looks like he is capitulating again.

>>60831160 (OP)
I thought we would never budge out of spite, but apparently he got spooked and doesn't want to get boltoned

>>60831160 (OP)
Powell is a lying nigger. They wanted inflation and had a plan to induce it that dates back before the plandemic. They achieved it and let it pump to over 9% (their own figures, we know it’s much higher) and they will do it again using their FAIT policy. These cuts will take some time to work their way thru the system and they could even manufacture another scam disaster to justify cutting even further. In the meantime, enjoy the brief burst of prosperity. The next time they hike the pain will be much more severe.

>>60832018
>trump discusses
>pulls out last minute
>gigantic red dildo
>millions must baghold

>>60833950
so you didn't buy the generational covid dip?

>>60831181
>THERE IS NO INFLATION!
>THE FED SHOULD BE PRINTING MONEY!
>t. Blompf
unironically

>>60833135
>b-b-b-but it's OK when MY team does it
It makes you realize that all sides, 360° round are utterly and completely retarded.

>>60831285
You're braindead retarded, m8

>>60831653
oh yeah
sure sure
lmao

>>60833924
welcome to the shadow fed

>>60832690
they'll cut interest rates to zero while their employment statistics turn negative.
they couldn't care less what real world prices do.

>>60833152
>Why retards keep repeating that?
I honestly don't know. But they keep on doing it.
>No debt will be refinanced. They'll just spend/print more, as ALWAYS happen when interest is low. They don't care.
Exactly this. As long as you run fiscal deficits every talking point is mute.
But look at this retard for example: >>60833175
>We need more debt to pay off the debt.
Motherfucker if you ain't running a surplus DURING hyperinflation AND are willing to pay of le debt at the peak of hyperinflation (not that you could, anyway) then nothing is getting fucking paid off LMAO retard

>>60835093
braindead retard telling others who is retarded. your wife's boyfriend is looking for you, he needs the new nintendo switch asap fagtard

>>60831174
MIGA!!!

>>60833356
The grocery store fud along with the suicide hotline number in /smg/ marked the absolute bottom

>>60831160 (OP)
>conditions
like a murder threat?

Why don’t he just cut 1 basis point and see how it goes

>>60831232
Sometimes I wonder why low iq subhumans like you even get these rights you don’t deserve. If we just exterminated al trumptards all our problems would be fixed, it would be so easy.

>>60831160 (OP)
So he is finally going to give in and let the economy collapse? Get ready, inflation is about to skyrocket.

I don't even want the retarded fake gay gains of a retarded planned economy waiting for collapse. This shits unironically depressing. We're all gonna be a peasant class again. Your millions in coins won't mean shit.

>>60831180
I rarely post but since I had such a shit day at work and I'm now drunk I will. Silj, gdx, gdxj are all up over 60% this year. While rate cuts are very bullish for pms you have to understand several things. The dollar is being devalued to lock in interest rates on debt. This will cause an in flux into pms. Since the 70s the dollar has lost 7.9% per year to gold. Lower interest rates mean more people buying pms because safe havens like tbill interest rates will be negligible. The cycle for pms to rise is now. I forsee a new crypto based on physical pms. What this all means is pms and mining stocks are going to fucking explode. I'm a dumb fuck but I'm a rich dumb fuck. I see the truth in things and commodities like pms are about to go parabolic. You have a short time to buy then sell, pay off debts and aquire tangible assets. The choice is yours.

>>60831969
...and a 5 o'clock shadow.

>>60833623
housing prices went up bigly. is that a luxury?

>>60831978
Ah yes, the government would totally not force a buyback of precious metals, it never happened before!
>>60832698
This is most likely.

>>60831181
I'm struggling to understand why every normie thinks they're a macroeconomic expert. Inflation post Covid was a perfect storm free money and dysfunctional supply chain and yes inflation above 3% and negative real rates is almost necessary at this point with the amount of debt and the debt to ratio but lowering the interest rates isn't going to cause double digit inflation but desperately needed in an environment begging for expansion, relatively weak dollar and cheap oil and a weakening job market. 2% inflation target is such an arbitrary number why not 3%, 1% why not 0% its completely made up.

>>60831978
Better to have a farm, a gun, and to know your neighbors well and have a good relationship with them. I'm not against gold and silver but be realistic, the market is more can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. People who bought stocks and real estate after 2008 are doing fine, people who bought crypto a decade ago are giving speaking tours and drinking champagne, people who bought gold and silver have pretty much nothing to show for it. One doubling after like 15 years of monetary inflation, one of the worst performing investments out there. Don't consider gold and silver an investment, consider them to be survival tokens in case of the apocalypse. Also advertising the amount of physical gold and silver you have to thousands of people online, perhaps the worst idea if things implode, you might as well paint a target on your back.

>>60831160 (OP)
thats not a good thing. inflation is barely reigned in, economy still running hot af and tariff effects are just beginning to become visible. i personally would hike the interest rate by 50 basis points if i were powell. just to be sure.

Most of the trump haters in this thread look like this.

>>60838118
Trump serves zog

>>60831199
big banana zone incoming, hope your anus is lubed and ready.

>>60838163
Except it's already all retracing again.

>>60837954
>Better to have a farm, a gun
Exactly. If you're going to talk about collapse, you better understand what collapse really means.

>>60838182
the line can't go straight up

>>60831185
>remember to sell this time
Sell what?
Money?
For what?
Paper?

>>60831160 (OP)
Interest rate cuts will be transitory.

>>60832042
o no, the chart says. ALL HAIL THE CHART.

>>60832049
When they need a bailout: its national security.
When they start destroying the company for short term gains: Its a private business.

You know what else is a 'National security matter'? Allowing private business to destroy the economy in never ending bailouts.
Chips, Cars, Planes. Exactly what industry ISNT 'national security'

>>60832046
where can i see the rest?

>>60836069
Underrated post, you and me brother we know what's coming...

>>60838811
Currency for money

Also they will introduce capital controls soon, they have to to stop people running from planned inflation.

>>60832063
Hey shlomo, show nose

>>60838948
Ah yes (((capital controls)))
I am familiar with those.