Thread 60845235

What does this mean? Did he extort the Intel CEO? How can he strike a deal with no money, threaten him with tariffs?

>>60845235 (OP)
i imagine it was a case of
>"Ok Ranjeesh, you're in breach of contract with the US government when you took billions in grants to build a manufacturing plant in the USA you're backing down from, give the sovereign wealth fund 10% of your companies shares right now or we sue you for billions more, and we'll win guaranteed"
>Okay Saar.

>>60845235 (OP)
When you understand Intel is an Israeli backdoor, some things are worth more than money.

He's lying. In lieu of giving them some grants, the government's buying shares. It's still costing the taxpayers, just that the government's getting something tangible from it. Intel's probably happier this way since they get the world's last superpower as an angel investor but idk.

He got a 4% discount wtf is he talking about no money lol

>>60845235 (OP)
He's saying this because his voters unironically think that capriciously shaking down private businesses is better than the nasty S-word (subsidy)

>>60845235 (OP)
Will they rebrand Intel to Incel?

>>60845476
We say communism here, sweety

>>60845483
It will be renamed to VEB Combine Magatron

>>60845235 (OP)
Do right wingers even pretend to believe in capitalism, the free market or libertarianism anymore? It seems that they've abandoned all principles in favour of just following whatever trump says.

Last month republicans hated ukraine, 32% approval, now support for Ukraine is at 67%.

it means companies will be forced to intel foundry for microchip fabrication if you dont want to be tariff.

>>60845522
we've regressed back to mercantilism. I don't think they care.

>>60845522

This isn't a free market. Why would you expect us to pretend like it is in the few instances where it objectively hurts us? This company already took billions from the American taxpayer to help their "revival" and they pissed it away on executives and bonuses continued to lay off Americans and let Asians infiltrate and undermine it.

Intel at this point isn't a toy company. They're as critical to national defense as Raytheon and Lockheed and should be quasi-nationalized just like them.

>>60845671
>They're as critical to national defense as Raytheon and Lockheed
Why are their most advanced fabs in Israel then

>>60845662

At the end of the day the global market isn't free. It's a battlefield. Your domestic market can be free, because you control it, it's like your own closed system, but on the global scale it's literally just countries trying to ruin and scam one another. They pacified "principled righties" in the US for a long time but at some point people noticed they were just getting perpetually fucked over and reoriented the focus of the party. (((internationalist businessmen))) were never our friends and were appealing to our natural sense of fairness and freedom to manipulate and subvert us. So it goes. IRL, everything is a battle and a negotiation.

>>60845685

whose?

>>60845690
>Your domestic market can be free, because you control it,
I wonder if you morons ever read what you write

>>60845671
>Raytheon and Lockheed and should be quasi-nationalized just like them
The US doesn't have any share of them tho

>>60845717

Great rebuttal faggot

>>60845718

That is just fine print. They're well coupled and regulated and subsidized by defense contracts. If anything what Trump is doing by buying public shares is more transparent and less shady than getting your tentacles up into them in other ways.

>>60845235 (OP)
he's lying because he thinks the public is mentally retarded. (the public is, in fact, mentally retarded, obese, brown, subservient to the jews and ZOG, etc.)

>Intel said the United States would invest $8.9 billion in its stock, on top of $2.2 billion that the government has paid the company under the CHIPS and Science Act, a federal program signed into law in 2022 that delivered billions in grants to revive U.S. semiconductor manufacturing. The government will not take a board seat or have other governance rights at Intel.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/22/technology/trump-intel-stake.html

>>60845690
This anon gets it
We're in a soft war that is being waged with economics, finance, and short term goal politics.
Inside our absolute sphere of influence we can do free trade (but we don't lol thanks for the sub cities) but outside its a free for all. The end of this charade will either see major war or takeover by a one world governance body

WILL THESE PRINT
ALL DOWN TO NIGVIDIA

>>60845748
>>60845690
Taiwan is already in the USA's sphere of influence. The effort to "reshore" chip production is akin to deciding that California is too libtarded to grow your food, so you'll invest billions to develop agriculture elsewhere in the hopes that in 10 years maybe you can recreate California's level of production.

>>60845748

The China model is unironically the one to follow. They liberalize internally but keep strong controls on all out/inflows and practice asymmetrical economic warfare on their rivals. They are playing game theory optimal economics in 2025, I'd say they're still too socialist internally for max growth but they have clearly had the US and Europe's ass for 30 years now. Trump is basically just taking cues from what they already do and trying to wake this dumb fat country up.

>>60845896
it's ~100 miles away from china.

>>60845896

"Sphere of influence" isn't enough. We need tight access and oversight. I said in another post the other alternative is to formally vassalize Taiwan and let them onshore production with oversight and regulation from American admins.

There are some things you simply don't rely on other countries for, defense is one of them. As tech gets more advanced this becomes more serious, imagine trying to ramp up from 0 to infinite chip production after letting it all get offshored 20 years before.

I imagine the access to deals through government is worth it.

>>60845912
>China will invade!
The US Navy is the most powerful fighting force in the world by a mile. The idea that China is capable of sustaining a land invasion of Taiwan against a US defense is retarded.
>>60845916
Sounds cheaper than trying to literally build from zero what has already been built

>>60845944
why would they need to invade when a handful of conventional surface to surface missiles could destroy taiwan's semiconductor factories?

>>60845235 (OP)
The intel money in the chips act was tranched behind several requirements for proof they were actually constructing the fabs. Many companies accept money from the government to install things and just walk home with it and give up. the united states was supposed to have fiber optic cable when the government gave verizon and AT&T all wads cash through the 90's and 2000's to lay it and connect homes via fiber optic, but they just decided not to after taking the money and the courts wouldn't support a lawsuit.

The Chips act in response to that demands money only be provided after proof of structures being constructed are available, they want to see the foundations, and the fabricators and so on in a checklist and then the money gets paid out. This is awful for intel because intel is defunct and planning to just take the money and run. They're dysfunctional and not actually going to succeed at building the fabs promised but they NEEEED those capital pools to sustain their stock price with free government money. Trump likely removed the tranches, claimed the money is coming from the chips act so it's no loss and is giving intel the majority of funds that were being withheld behind construction milestones. Instead Trump's willing to give intel that money because he wants to create a sovereign wealth fund and can use intel equity to take out loans against it to fund shock and awe operations inside and outside of the usa.

>>60846114
Makes sense.

>>60845522
Are you slow? the people behind the current political environment are self avowed feudalists. How much more clear do Thiel, Marc Andreessen, etc need to be for you retards to finally get it?

>>60845685
because they're an american company, why WOULDNT they put everything important they own into israeI? kek, its mostly research labs to be fair, the actual manufacturing has always happened elsewhere.

>>60845912
So? China has missiles with intercontinental range that can reach all of CONUS from mainland China. Chinese submarines off the coast of California or Baja California could fire missiles that can reach Intel fabs in Oregon, Arizona or New Mexico.

GOVERNMENT IS ACQUIRING PRIVATE SECTOR

WE ARE OFFICIALLY IN A COMMUNIST COUNTRY

EVERYTHING IS CRASHING SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL (into USD, which they surely won't be incentivized to print more of now that it has more purchasing power)