Thread 60856083

Do Americans really live like this?

Florida is actually quite affordable for what it is no clue why they're whining. That shack would be 3k/month in california.

>>60856083 (OP)

This is literally fake.

How do americans even surive like this? The more I look at this it seems like thter is a wealthy class but a large portion of the population is livin like its a 3rd world country

>>60856087
-Home of the Slave.

I mean look at this shit, if I was a retired old boom I'd be all over it. Comfy

>>60856108
Is that a house or what is it?

>>60856083 (OP)
in the south, yes. they're called 'shotgun houses.' the south is a fucking shithole. low wages, a lot of blacks, rampant obesity and low IQ, etc.

You need more?

>>60856083 (OP)
That's why it's only $800.

>>60856108
>>60856111
That will have a big monthly land rent.

>>60856103
We europeans don’t understand it but in USA the first world and the third world exist simultaneously at the same place. They have at the same time the crime and huge poor class of a third world country and the mansions and shops of a first world country.

Always funny seeing Europoors seethe at America.
No, most of us live in modest middle-class homes, myself included

>>60856135
California alone is greater than the entire GDP of Europe, we outscale you.
I know, you’re having difficulty fathoming the sheer size.

>>60856130

Nope. They include that in the Zestimate. If you look at typical trailer parks their monthly's are higher due to that.

>>60856111

In FL they have big boomer retiree double wide areas. The houses are actually quite liveable and since you're next to other normal people you realize how much we get Jew'd by not being allowed our own middle class trailer communities.

>>60856143
>Nope. They include that in the Zestimate.

w0t? A zestimate is just the estimated sale price. I'm looking that place up, scroll down -
>Lease amount: $1,654

>>60856149

No they calculate the total monthly payment estimate on the page, which usually includes extra fees like HOA or trailer rents. In any case $137 a month isn't very much lol.

>>60856158
That place costs $24,900. But you also must pay $1,654 PER MONTH.
And you have to be Age 55+.

>>60856142
>gdp nonsense

>>60856165

Could you link to the source?

>>60856177
Comparing China cities to American cities?
Huh? You really are seething. Look, Europe is irrelevant. That’s just how it is. Nobody really, uh, cares about Europe. Especially not your Euro cuck leaders.
Only America is relevant, that’s just how it is.

>>60856083 (OP)
Actually has some half-decent interior but holy fuck my guy is living in a repurposed bathroom.

Also you know that thing doesn't have shit for AC, heat, or insulation.

>>60856184
im an american.

Let me guess, you need more?

Looks fine/comfy

>>60856179
Source for? Lease amount is almost always a MONTHLY fee, not yearly.

>Jamaica Bay Village is an age-restricted (55+) manufactured home community...
>Jamaica Bay is a beautiful gated community of manufactured homes in south Fort Myers, designed especially for residents who want to enjoy a fun and active lifestyle in beautiful Southwest Florida.
>Home site lot rent ranges from $1591 - $1490 per month and includes the following: Trash pickup Water Sewer

>>60856214

No, please link what you're citing, just like I linked the specific posting. I'm not going to believe your random post lol

>>60856236
It's literally in YOUR ZILLOW LINK. I said scroll down.

Did you really think you could buy a house in a semi-nice community for $24 grand?

>>60856247

They aren't supposed to tuck that into the fine print, it goes into one of these sections. No, I figured there is some kind of HOA overhead as it isn't a random lot, there are better deals than $1600/month for mobile/modular homes in FL, not my fault (((Sandra Bergman))) didn't want to include that properly.

>>60856247
NTA but you’d have to be a retard to think a trailer in a trailer park is a good option because the lot fees make it about the same as just renting a normal home, basically no advantage to living in a trailer park

>>60856264
>>60856279
Yep it's just an elderly rental community.
The boomer probably pays $2k/month to live there, plus still has to pay for home repairs, and maybe a small property tax.
But he gets to ride around in his golf cart all day in his gated community.

>>60856083 (OP)
>$800 for a studio apartment that is a stand alone structure with a yard in a major city
Not bad if you want a Tampa cityfag.

>>60856204
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4880-Cornsilk-Ter-North-Port-FL-34286/99857520_zpid/

it's an auction property so it will probably sell for more than $225k. also how badly did the retard builder fuck up if it's a brand new property and it's immediately going to auction?

>>60856366

That's a scam then, retard boomers

>>60856386

FL has a lot of cheap houses right now, builders are dumping and it's a crashing market. That's why it's weird to whine about FL specifically when talking about housing costs it's actually a fire sale.

>>60856184
Lmao that's the new cope now ? They live longer and are happier in general. Americans hating on Europe is retarded. Your country line goes up, but look at normal people, their life is terrible compared to the average europoor.
>t. I live on a small island on Asia I can't care less about the US or Europe disappearing

>>60856445

Pray tell little chink what "Yuropoor" life should I be envying? I make about 3x their median salary and my national leader doesn't hate me to the core.

>>60856445
You live in a building. You don't even have a car. Shut the fuck up, bug

this would unironically go for $2500 in nyc

>>60856451
Salary is only important if you include the cost of living. You surely don't earn more than a random guy in Switzerland for example. But anyway good for you if you think you have a better life than them, maybe go visit there and you'll understand why they live longer. I've lived there a long time, I haven't been to the US that long but I would choose Europe every day.
>>60856482
cope more negroid you don't understand what's important, go to the church

>>60856504
would unironically go for $34 quadrillion a month in gayniggerville

>>60856580

Europe does not have a low cost of living. Try again!

>>60856184
Meanwhile in reality the entire world is disjointing from USA. The fact that americans think they’re still relevabt shows how left behind their public education system is.

>>60856590
I didn't say that you turbo retard, you probably get a 30% higher cost of living equivalence salary in the states but you have to trade early retirement free education, free hospitals, less crime, longer life span, better culture ect ect. I think the US is superior if you are in the top 10%, but for the average population they'll live happier lives in Europe.
>inb4 it's not free it's taxes
Yes it's included when you say a European earn less than you, most salaries figures in Europe are given after healthcare, education and other taxes.

>>60856807

It's superior if you're in the top 80% actually, most human beings don't live a life of welfare dependent squalor and aspire for more. All of them would fare better in America. Euro governments fearmong about how you would "totally be on the street and hungry" were it not for their bountiful welfare grift schemes, meanwhile they keep you in perpetual poor wagiehood. This is basically slavery.

>>60856819
Kek absolute delusion.

>>60856590
>>60856807
Actually I've just checked and on average it's not even 20% better from the country I was living in so yeah you trade all the good stuff from Europe to get a 20% better salary ratio. That's a personal choice I guess. I personally would prefer the security easy mode that Europe offers. But I was raised there so I am probably biased. Europe's view is more of a "enjoy life" guy and you guys seem to be a full "I need to be the best slave possible and do extra hours for my overlord Jacob Goldman" type. Anyway your 80% is full of shit and you know it

>>60856858

Nope. Think I haven't done serious research on moving to Europe? For starters, I'd be taking a -70% paycut. Then we go into the fact that housing is actually more expensive in much of it. I'm 30 and on track to retire in about 4 more years. Wouldn't even sniff that in Yuropz.

>>60856083 (OP)
Yes.
That's not bad for $800/mo. Usually $800 a month gets you an apartment in a shared building full of diversities, mold, and roaches

>>60856142
>California alone is greater than the entire GDP of Europe
you are making stuff up, it's the GDP of France. And GDP is the worst metric ever, it literally doesnt mean anything. A quarter of your GDP is boomers flipping houses to each others, and another quarter is private healthcare jewing you out with nothing but atrocious results to show for.

>>60856907
Sounds very job specific. But yeah if you want to just retire as early as possible, USA can be better. But if you want to actually live (and work) then europe is loads better. I can’t stand all the violent homeless, the crime and shit public infrastructure in USA (which i experienced in person when i traveled there).

>>60856907
Lmao absolutely delusional, in Europe 800€ gives you an (small allbeit) apartment in most major cities not whatever toilet sized house OP posted 50km away in a negroid infested jungle. Enjoy your 3m house I guess (you can buy a literal castle in France for this price)

>>60856918
this kek

>>60856918
I don't understand what the joke here is when most european countries are likely 1/3rd white at this point and won't publish any statistics for fear of being labeled racist

>>60856918
>57%
i too like my collection of very old memes

>>60856942
I'm on Europe side but I agree
Anyway this retard is too retarded and this is a property thread so here :
https://www.bellesdemeures.com/vente/france/chateau-luxe/tt-2-tb-13-pl-73/
You can check some french real estate it's quite funny to compare with the current USA cardboard house prices. Keep in mind those castles have super strict regulations and you can't just buy them and not keep them properly maintained so most people don't want to bother.

>>60856136
Those look like absolute shit though.

>>60856115
>in the south, yes. they're called 'shotgun houses.' the south is a fucking shithole. low wages, a lot of blacks, rampant obesity and low IQ, etc.
that's not even a shotgun house, it's like a park latrine. one you can apparently cook and sleep in.

>>60856907
It's funny how you stopped posting after being presented with facts kek

>>60856807
>most salaries figures in Europe are given after healthcare, education and other taxes.
Lmao that hasn't been true forever. Those taxes aren't sufficient to fund those programs so you are raped with taxes on goods and services that eat into your post tax take home pay with VAT such as taxing gasoline to the point that it costs triple what it is burgerstan and, bizarrely, taxing the displacement of your car's engine. That's the gayest thing I have ever heard. You have the dumbest taxes on earth to fund you social programs.

>>60856083 (OP)
>no bed
what a shithole the U.S. is

>>60856942
Kek what cope is this? European countries are 99-85% white.

>>60856135
I was walking through Miami and look into one street and it's super luxury stores, never seen that shit before. Then the street next to it is complete ghetto and you would be shot when going in there. The entire city was like this. Also you cant drink tap water most places in the US, because it's a third world country.
>>60856136
I'm working class and my property is 100x that.
>>60856142
California has same taxes as my country and they have to dump their wages into healthcare.
>>60856451
>3x your salary
Which you spend on a mortgage on a property that is smaller than my parking lot and on healthcare lmao. I have 37 vacation days a year, 12 of them are paid for. And I can go and cry to my doctor and get another 3 moons of paid vacation whenever I want to.
Being working class outside of US is 10000x better than the US.

>>60856979

I went to lunch, what "facts"? You live in a dirty little commie block and celebrate the fact that you walk and take the train anywhere. Get out of my face you bug.

>the year is 2025, the US has eclipsed the EU GDP in absolute, not per capita terms, and they are still haughtily going on about how much better their system is because of statist welfare policy

It's incredible. This is why you're going to keep losing. The European century of humiliation indeed. All because you didn't understand the value of work and economic freedom.

>>60857596

Ask literally any American that visits Europe. It's a museum. It feels quaint. It feels provincial. "Here is my tiny apartment, here is my little bike, maybe one day I'll be rich and afford a tiny car."

>when will you retire?

"70, because I live barebones paycheck to paycheck and have no real ability to earn above a rigidly middle class level."

It's grim. For some of you, that might seem great, a small time, provincial, 1915 standard of living. For those of us with ambition and a desire to build something, it's horrid.

>>60856970
That'll be $750,000, plus tip, thanks.

>>60857610
>it’s bad because there are old buildings

I never understand this line of reasoning. USA felt bland and boring because there were no old buildings (outside some in new york). Old buildings look better than new ones. And we also have new buildings. The provincial thing is hilarious. I literally never think of USA when i think of trends. Fashion? It’s always some tacky few years behind version of european fashion. My favorite music style (electronic music)? USA is years behind. The festivals and clubs are tame compared to europe. I just think of USA as that backwater place that is literally decades behind europe in societal and welfare structure development.

>>60857561
I know, i visited Miami too. You go 10 km from the city center and the infrastructure already looks like it’s chernobyl. In Paris you have the luxury shops in the center but almost no homeless. The beautiful suburbs stretch at least 20 km in each direction and the few ”slums” are mild compared to USA. The whole city looks like one giant piece of art.

>>60857695

>I never understand this line of reasoning. USA felt bland and boring because there were no old buildings (outside some in new york). Old buildings look better than new ones. And we also have new buildings. The provincial thing is hilarious. I literally never think of USA when i think of trends. Fashion? It’s always some tacky few years behind version of european fashion. My favorite music style (electronic music)? USA is years behind. The festivals and clubs are tame compared to europe. I just think of USA as that backwater place that is literally decades behind europe in societal and welfare structure development.

They are a sign that your society has stagnated. Post growth. It's all about clinging to the old structures that your ancestral betters built during boom and growth times. Men acting faggy and like "fashionable" dandies isn't a good sign, it means they're neglecting their role as a utility. Americans dress like utilitarians. Basic, efficient, useful clothing, not tight "Euro cut" bullshit and fag shoes. Everything you're saying is like this

>we've stopped building new things
>we've stopped caring about function, utility, and more about vanity
>our focuses are on absorbing the remaining resources and dividing them up to be pissed away on various aging, dependent classes

This is not good anon. It's not good. How can you not tell? Seems like many in the EU are getting wise to it. 2010-2025 has not been a good period for the EU vs China/USA. Do you think it's going to magically course correct? By continuing to make fun of the American mode of life? (workmaxxing/buildmaxxing/spendmaxxing) One day your legacy fund is going to dry up, and it's coming sooner than you'd think thanks to the boatloads of useless foreigners you import in.

>>60856083 (OP)
Reminds me of big Lenny’s shit shack. RIP.

>>60856083 (OP)
I used to rent 1-2 bedrooms in Richmond for $750 a month, spacious with washer and dryer. At the time I thought it was hell because low income, I had no idea how bad things were going to get.

>>60856142
I don't know if we should be flaunting our GDP right now. Our market is propped up by everyone dumping money into mag 7 in the hopes of eliminating even more jobs. Our college educated under 30 are unemployeed sitting at their parents home occasionally eating propaganda; they will be fascists or socialists or whatever flavor of radical want to be revolutionary because they have no reason to live except to service debt and if lucky enough to wage keep SS solvent for 30 more seconds. The middle class is gone, I and two other working age adults all making at or near six figures pool resources to cover one mortgage and an extremely modest life style. I hate my life but the fighting age males marginallyyounger than me don't even have access to this. Outside of some nepotism I engage in personally I don't know how many of my peers are actually getting on at all. Homelessness is up, auto repos are on par with GFC. We have all this land and use it to fuck over our own kind and eventually ourselves. The sooner it takes a shit the better, we can bounce back because of our mass but nothing about our current state is exemplary or sustainable. 80% of the population injected a terminator gene into their blood and this is being slow walked in media. Even now the marginally higher rates are actually causing housing principal to fall and be more affordable and the current Admin is fighting tooth and nail to make line go up mostly because we can no longer ignore our debt and cannot afford a market crash with society breaking. Our GDP includes making and "selling" bombs to turn Palestinian rubble into smaller rubble. None of it is real outside of data centers sucking the country dry, fyi there isn't enough power for current load much less projected.

>>60856083 (OP)
Let me guess, you need more.

>>60857561
Eurochad life sounds comfy. Probably will never get to experience it. USA isn't so bad but it's not great either. Lots of access to stuff, that's the best part.. but plenty to complain about.

>>60857715
Plenty of people here dress like faggots wearing sleep or workout attire in public, or dressing as a different gender. Socially our societies are undergoing similar destructive trends, ours just occurs in a younger state that hasn't had it's first empire collapse yet. We also import more foreigners than we need, pic related Trump still voted for infinite jeets. You all will point to holes in the others boat so that you don't have to notice your own.

>>60856083 (OP)
>cuckshed.webm

>>60858720
Oh boo fucking hoo people are wearing sweatpants in public

>>60856177
Mississippi has a decent amount of filthy rich people and a lot of really poor people. This averages out to a GDP per-capita that's low by American standards, but which seems reasonable. What's actually happening is that a lot of people are living essentially in war refugee third-world conditions (open sewers, no heating or cooling in the house, poor education, no jobs) while a few (((families))) hoard most of the opportunities and wealth.

>>60856386
a lot of properties in FL are becoming uninsurable or the premiums so ridiculously high it does not make sense to take out insurance.

>>60856108
>25k home

Let me guess, the blackest gorilla niggers live in this region and if you move in while white they will break in to your home and cut your head off

>>60856451
I'm American, but you have to admit Europe culture and history mogs us. Their towns, villages, and cities also mog ours. We have great nature and if you are extremely rich you can live a very comfortable life here but still, I think the ideal would be a European location with an American salary and benefits. Of course, this is extremely difficult to find and most Euro countries are not letting in Americans (perfectly understandable).

>>60858991
>im american
That's a wide definition nowadays.

>>60858996
True. Luckily I am not wide.

>>60856083 (OP)
>windows
>furnished kitchen
>looks newly renovated
>space for a futon/couch and a tv or desk
It's small and basic but liveable. You arent sharing a bathroom so thats nice too

>>60856936
Be honest Ameribros, would you not rather live in some culturally significant kino house like this than some cookie cutter mcmansion monstrosity for the same price
>>60856864
The US has a much wider spread in salary than Europe. So it is possible that 80% might be true in his field.

>>60859017
I would rather live where I can own a gun

>>60859038
That's fair, but doesn't Switzerland have based gun laws?

>>60856083 (OP)
Tampa isn't even that expensive compared to a lot of other cities

>>60856108
You're dumb as hell
>>60856184
That's a state retard

>>60856236
Realtors fuck up listings trailer homes in trailer parks. They often put 0 for Association fees and conveniently leave out 55+ community so you enquire about it. So if the price seems too low, its that way for a reason.

The wording you are looking for down in the other property listing details is "Property Subtype: Manufactured Homeon Real Property". This means trailer home on its own land.

>>60856108
>25k
What's the catch?

>>60859710
likely to get wiped out by extreme weather in the next 20 years and uninsurable.

>>60856142
>California alone is greater than the entire GDP of Europe
California has less than 1/5 the GDP of Europe you retarded uberfleisch

>>60856083 (OP)
So? What else do you need?

>>60856083 (OP)
Looks like a clean one-room studio apartment.
Go check out Japan or Hong Kong some time.

>>60856136
I don't see how living in an ugly cardboard box can be percieved as a flex, but ok.

>>60856451
>my national leader doesn't hate me to the core.
he absolutely does

>>60856083 (OP)
These are the same burgers always writing shit about tiny japanese homes and the likes, lmao
Meanwhile burger techtrannies have to live together in fucking shared apartments for 3000 bucks a month.

>>60857715
Lmao what a bunch of drivel. New is good in building but not in fashion and music? You suck at debating.

>>60858930
>>60859710
Can almost guarantee its a 55+ Only community with an HOA/Lot fee. Vegas is full of these kind of listings.

>>60860402
>he absolutely does
But why is he the one elected leader in the world repeteadly doing the things his voters asked for?

>>60859710
It's a trailer. Imagine telling people you live in a fucking trailer lel

>>60856936
>in Europe 800€ gives you an (small allbeit) apartment in most major cities
You can't even walk out to your driveway looking at trees and grass let alone the fucking horizon. I'd take the cuckshed in the OP before your europoor hellscape city apartment hive living.

>>60860948
That's called history, you wouldn't understand

>>60859001
>that'd be $800 a month plus expenses and tips, goy, it's a bargain!! Sign here! Oh i forgot no pets no smoking and don't bring girls and don't park your car outside!

>>60856936
Here's what you get in paris for 800€ you dumb fuck, that's even worse than op https://www.seloger.com/annonces/locations/appartement/paris-9eme-75/lafayette-richer/248785377.htm?ln=classified_search_results&serp_view=list&search=distributionTypes%3DRent%26estateTypes%3DHouse%2CApartment%26locations%3DAD08FR31096%26priceMax%3D800&m=classified_search_results_classified_classified_detail_L

>>60860461

You don't create new fashion or music, tf are you talking about

>>60861877
I don't think some shithole in Florida compares to Paris sweetheart

>BREAKING: Nvidia is in talks with the U.S. to sell its Blackwell AI chip to China, and is reportedly willing to give the U.S. a cut of Blackwell China sales, according to Fox.
Literally mafia tier economics out of a third world shithole country and the CCP
I've seen BABA getting a instant -50% for less out of the chink commies.

>>60861935

Right, more feral niggers in Paris

>>60861927
As i said, in electronic music in europe is a decade ahead of USA. Let’s not even talk about metal music. Also europe has a huge fashion industry.

>>60861963
No there wasn’t. T. Been to both Paris and Miami