Thread 60859518

How bad is it being a teacher?

>>60859518 (OP)
Imagine you're not able to produce anything viable in your life. Imagine you have basically almost no control over yourself. The because you have no control you're like "Maybe I'll get some control over my own life if I control 20-30 little children who literally can't do anything against me and I can decide their life. Maybe that'll heal the crippling pain inside my soul?". Now imagine you literally have 0 skills to explain anything. Now imagine you want to repeat literally THE SAME THING for 40 years and you'll still sounds bland and no one will get it. Now imagine you're average or below average. Now imagine you have no internal motivation in life. Now imagine you're scared of your own shadow.

I could go on for days. Even the people teaching at college aren't that much better. Sure, they are, but it's mostly ULTRA nerds that are hidding away from actual life because life is scary and academics is a coping mechanism because they're so in it that they don't realize that nothing they do in the academics field applies to real life cases. They always like to pretend that someone is their class will find it useful and then once they graduate more or less nothing will be useful. Imagine taking an AI course and the professor being like "Some of your colleagues will find this useful and are interested in it" and then the reality is that no one gives a fuck and once they get a job everyone will be literally just making plain old simple web apps or mobile apps.

>>60859518 (OP)
In the United States? Pure hell.
>t. have MEd, a decade in the classroom before changing career to tech

>>60859518 (OP)
Anything below the 10th grade and you're just babysitting them. Imagine cycling through hundreds of kids and you can clearly see who will be successful and who will struggle in life.

For every 1 kid you personally help, there are a 100 different kids that slipped through the cracks.

Imagine a rapid flowing stream where the water are the kids who you're teaching, and you have a bucket that "teaches" or catches the water in there. Sure you can get a bigger bucket to catch more water, but unless youre intellectually strong, the workload will go past the point of exhaustion.

Common core math in america is the reality of using a 100 gallon bucket with holes at the bottom, with a teacher that cant carry a 100 gallon bucket to get as much water claimed as possible.

Now that bucket is forever stuck in the water, without anyone being able to lift it out of the river to claim that water.

>>60859518 (OP)
all the teachers i know hate the admins of their schools, 95% of the kids, the forced curriculum, the low pay, and laughable supply budget

>>60859518 (OP)
Studying to be a teacher here. It genuinely feels like starting your career 10 years ago was the last helicopter out of Saigon.

>Be me
>Always interested in history and english
>How do I translate this into a job?
>I guess i'll be a teacher
>As a man i'm already considered a novelty in the career and people tell me that its always good to have more male teachers. One of the few sectors where quotas have been good for men
>Start studying
>70% women. Some are naive people pleasers who feel like teaching is some kind of higher calling. Vocal but small minority of misandrists who clearly just want to get into a female dominated industry
>Theory is entirely rooted in marxist thought. Literally everything is an offshoot of marxism.
>Assessment based on merit bad. No elaboration except that it is 'western'. Told to measure students success based on arbitrary factors like effort
>Spend most of your time designing lesson plans that focus on motivating the most retarded students.
>Teachers are agents of change. Get to know your students in ways that are inappropriate such as figuring out if they are neurodivergent or gay.
>Had a teacher once tell me that its a good idea if a student is from another country to do a quick google search of the country so you have something to bond with them over.
>Everything is a social construct, nothing is real
>Students should be confused constantly because confusion breeds 'critical reflection'. However being critical of the liberal capitalist order is dangerous and as agents of change we need to step in to stop wrongthink
>Theory seems to constantly re-invent itself every 5 years in order for academics to justify their existence.
>'STEM is a problematic term, so now we are going to introduce STEAM which is STEM but with arts included!' Apparently this will lead to better student outcomes
>Teachers simultaneously have no time for lesson planning but the curriculum is all available online
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>>60859518 (OP)

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>>60859623
>Teachers are simultaneously underpaid and yet have a base graduate salary above the average wage and this increases by 3% every year. A 35 year old who has held down a job for 10 years is getting paid the same as a dentist
>Teachers are simultaneously overworked and yet the work day ends at 3pm and they get 20 weeks of holidays a year.
>Basically unable to be fired unless you are a nonce.
>Going on placement shows that the theory is totally meaningless and most teachers are making it up as they go along
>Lesson planning, which is heavily emphasised in study, is practically useless because students react differently and in ways you cant predict and you mostly run out of time to cover all content
>Teachers never get re-trained. This means that the boomer teachers have a different outlook on pedagogy as a gen x teacher and they have a different attitude to a gen y teacher and so on and so on. The absolute rot of academic bureaucracy that has taken hold of the gen z teacher generation makes you a worse teacher compared to previous generations.
>Teachers have savior complexes which lead to breakdowns, particularly in female teachers who treat their students like their actual children and when they fail they cant cope

As someone studying to be a teacher and even in my career I will never have any regard for teachers, particularly the academia and the quicker I get out of the university and into a school where it feels like I can do what feels right the better. There is a major disconnect between the marxist academics and what actually works. Teachers are literally state sponsored social engineers of marxism. No exceptions and if you don't like it you wont make it

>>60859623
>It genuinely feels like starting your career 10 years ago was the last helicopter out of Saigon
Every profession feels like this now

>>60859518 (OP)
its boring af and you have to deal with other peoples retarded unhygienic kids

>>60859656
i always wanted a tard wife

Test

I took a year of teaching in college. I love literature, but I'm glad I didn't continue it. I changed over to IT junk. Later I volunteered to teach some High School basic programming junk where a class came to our college and was gonna learn basic programming. It was supposed to be an easy GPA boost, but holy fuck kids don't give two shits about anything you say they just want to do their worksheet and get outta there. It was pretty misserable. I don't regret not becomming a teacher, but I definitely regretted volunteering to teach kids fucking anything.

>>60859518 (OP)
Hell.

You aren’t allowed to discipline kids anymore. My friend is a teacher and they aren’t even allowed to raise their voice at the kids or threaten to call their parents. If a kid gets in trouble for something 95% of the time the parents will side with the kid over the school admin. 2 teachers at the school got hospitalized after being attacked by students. You can’t do shit like fight back if this happens, or people think it’s abuse or some BS.

This is the result of allowing millennials run things, everything goes to shit. Parents also don’t punish their kids anymore, I’ve witnessed the neighbors children do terrible things right in front of the parents like beat up the younger sibling and the parents don’t give a flying fuck

>>60859623
>>60859647
No wonder there are so many school shooters. Thanks for doing you're best to help society.

>>60859898
>95% of the time the parents will side with the kid over the school admin.
And rightfully so. Fuck teachers.

>>60859518 (OP)
In America it's horrible.

>>60859554
great post
a lot of the 30 year old teachers i know want to kill themselves already and can't stop complaining, imagine how they will feel after 20 years of teaching the exact same shit over and over again

>>60859518 (OP)
One of my 7th grade teachers was a complete cunt. Absolutely hated me, i have zero clue why. She was in her 20s, brand new teacher, still trying to be a popular girl. Her actions really opened my eyes as an adult to just how oversold the propaganda is on "teachers".
>Underpaid!
Once their first year is done they can copy & paste for the next 20years. OVERPAID.
>Please vote to up local taxes so we get MORE money!
Kek. No.
>Overworked!
3 month summer vacation.
>We work on summer vacation too!
They don't.
>We pay for school supplies!
Literally not required. Their own stupidity.
>Putting up with kids is hard!
Could have chosen a million different jobs and they picked teaching. Then act retarded like they didn't know what they were getting into.

>>60860046
the whole underpaid thing has been debunked more than the gender pay gap. they get 12+ weeks of leave a year and they cope (lie) about working during it too.

i had a teacher like you're describing except mine was 60. you'd expect a 60 year old to have more wisdom but you can imagine what 40 years teaching the same thing all the time does to someone's already bitter and demented brain.

>>60859990
Isn't it some weird bit of synchronicity that Donald Barr (perverted sci fi author who wrote about sex slavery involving children) was headmaster of the Dalton school around the time that Epstein was hired, Donald Barr's son is former Attorney General William Barr, and there's also a virus called Epstein-Barr.

>>60860057
>i had a teacher like you're describing except mine was 60. you'd expect a 60 year old to have more wisdom but you can imagine what 40 years teaching the same thing all the time does to someone's already bitter and demented brain.
They get a smidgen of power over kids and abuse it. If anything teachers need some sort of public oversight. Voting block made up of the parents of students in their class or something. Decides their pay raises or if they even keep the job. Schools are not great at policing their shit teachers.

>>60860076
>In 1973, Barr published Space Relations, a science fiction novel about a planet ruled by oligarchs who engage in child sex slavery.
What the FUCK...

>>60859898
Are we allowed to ask you the race of the kids involved?

>>60859554
It’s interesting how some engineer brained incels want to make posts like these, simply not realising that some people like the interaction of teaching kids. Being so engineer brained that you can’t realise that not everyone wants to shit out some mechanical action with their work.

>>60860085
Lmao i can’t believe even on 4chan someone has the exact kind of mentality that resulted in parents complaining about everything and the teachers having no power to discipline the kids.

>>60860669
I agree, I would like to be a teacher in later life as a way to wind down working.
this >>60859554 is retarded;
this >>60859600 sounds like a skill issue;
and this >>60859623>>60859647 sounds like misery, but prob worth getting through to do something about it

>>60860686
My dad was a teacher (history, social studies like how taxes and voting works, psychology) and loved it. Granded we are northern european. All his students always told me how he was the best teacher they ever had, he even taught me and i agree he was a really good teacher. Kept the marxism at a boomer minimum and taught realistic history (so not a lot of chud trad delusion either). Engineer brains can’t understand how someone might enjoy just educating the kids about the world for a living.

>>60860739
what is this new 'engineer brain' cope?
maybe your dad was a good one, he was an exception to rule in that case because 99% of them are pathetic and petty humans.

>>60859857
*teat

christ those blogposts were embarrassing to read

>>60859554
i dont understand how people have this sort of experience with the education system. i mean i had a few libtard and incompetent teachers across my high school and college education, but most of them were reasonable in their opinions (not that they ever let it directly influence their teaching) and most of them were reasonably good at teaching. i say this as a STEMlord who obviously had to do the whole 'well rounded education' rigamarole with coursework in english lit, sociology, art history, etc.