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Anonymous (ID: fIMSuAeV) No.60873907 >>60874020 >>60874027 >>60874147 >>60874255 >>60874441 >>60874524 >>60874558 >>60874806 >>60874985 >>60875337 >>60875443 >>60875582 >>60876572 >>60877813 >>60880250 >>60885776 >>60885784 >>60886048 >>60887643 >>60888172 >>60888924 >>60889756
Wtf is happening here?
Why is France in such a fiscal mess?

>debt/gdp ~114
>deficit about 6 percent
>10y bonds around 3,5 yield (highest in eurozone, even above Greece)
>govt already fell over budget fights
>finance minister even mentioned IMF "help"

Will the ECB fire up the printers to save them?
Anonymous (ID: wCyK3krT) No.60873939 >>60876297
In the end, they speak a language that comes from latin and were catholic for the most part (now muslim). That's all you need to understand.
Anonymous (ID: p9k5/UNf) No.60874020 >>60874077 >>60883837
>>60873907 (OP)
>Even the fucking villages look like Sudan

Gee I wonder
Anonymous (ID: ExyYB0pr) No.60874027 >>60874440 >>60875019
>>60873907 (OP)
Wrong side won + late stage socialism for 3rd world freeloaders, that's what's happening.
Anonymous (ID: wCyK3krT) No.60874077
>>60874020
Marseille is even more dangerous than most Latin American cities. France is a shithole
Anonymous (ID: KsSdW+3y) No.60874147
>>60873907 (OP)
everybody is lowballing so thy dont have to pay germanies social security bills via eu transfers
Anonymous (ID: BQPXnGnd) No.60874255 >>60885756
>>60873907 (OP)
They voted for a fucking investment banker to run things. What the hell do you think would happen? Kek
Anonymous (ID: 92BNA9J8) No.60874440
>>60874027
basically this
our ancestors failed us
Anonymous (ID: QGGyEV7L) No.60874441 >>60875184
>>60873907 (OP)
france goes trough debt boom and bust cycles that end in revolutions
french revolution 2 inmigrant boogaloo coming up
Anonymous (ID: sPE63rUn) No.60874524
>>60873907 (OP)
>why is france such a mess
Because they lost WW2
Anonymous (ID: FxPL7lFg) No.60874558 >>60874804 >>60885767
>>60873907 (OP)
There is less French and more niggers and arabs. You can make gold of out shit. Demographically dead and just lost lost all african colonies, there is no future in which one France will be rich, once amount of niggers and arabs achieve breaking point collapse will accelerate. Their only chance would be going full nat-soc.
Anonymous (ID: YfUorJGY) No.60874578 >>60875023 >>60880392
Politicians don't have the balls to cut spending and balance the budget and are just kicking the can down the road, hoping they can eventually blame the IMF for the painful reforms when they request a loan.
It's the same thing that happened to Greece.
Europeans have been living above their means for decades but are too entitled to accept that fact so it will need to be shoved down their throats by the IMF. Embarrassing.
Anonymous (ID: 4yap29iT) No.60874641
Have yuros tried cutting free healthcare. That might work. Just a thought. Take it or leave it.
Anonymous (ID: nYArliGf) No.60874804 >>60874810 >>60876604
>>60874558
I'm originally eastern euro second generation memeigrant, I weep seeing what's happened to this once beautiful country.
Disgusts me heavily knowing the hurdles and hoops my parents went through, having to be excellent in their field and upstanding, just for some gibsmedats to shit all over it and get it all for free.
Some parts are literally africa, you wouldn't believe you eyes.
But most long term normie natives don't seem to be bothered by it, and mostly think it's a good thing.

So what can you do? It's a societal ill, a lot of young people aren't growing out of communist/socialist ideology.
People didn't experience hardships under an all powerful figure and cannot figure out what could go wrong with the state becoming ever more powerful.

Other part, I think democracy didn't account for age pyramid, and now that it's inverted, skews heavily in favor of a generation that won't live the next two decades.
Votes should be weighted towards economically active agents.
Anonymous (ID: dpys18fo) No.60874806 >>60874831 >>60874864 >>60875089 >>60876310 >>60876552 >>60876590 >>60877076 >>60884707 >>60886002 >>60886238
>>60873907 (OP)
As a Frenchman, let me explain:

- Currency too strong for the French economy.

- Extensive and extremely unfair regulations (for example, you can't fly a drone within 30 meters of buildings, and training costs €5,000 to obtain all the necessary permits. How much do you charge for drone deliveries? You need a special permit, which can be refused because the civil servant is in a bad mood).

- Civil servants are numerous and inefficient. The joke is that one civil servant position creates three jobs: the civil servant, the person who controls the civil servant, and the person who controls the controller.

- The EU is expensive for a negative gain; it is a source of regulation.

-The country is going into massive debt to send money to Zelensky, cover the country in wind turbines (useless since nuclear power covered our needs anyway), and maintain a Soviet healthcare system where everything is free but you have to wait 14 fucking hours to be treated in a provincial public hospital.

-From time to time, we hear stories like: "150 million in aid sent to Romania, 50 million to South Africa, 80 million to Azerbaijan..."

Basically, the country is very poorly managed, it's absurd beyond words, our institutions are 50 years behind and an ineffective Soviet system of redistribution is sucking up the last breaths of oxygen. Every little thing accumulated weighs like an anvil on the country (especially the EU which is a huge problem and public spending of course) and threatens to capsize the ship. In reality, I suspect Macron of wanting to sink us to put us under the guardianship of the EU because the delusional project of the elites is to dislocate France into this European monster. There, I answered as honestly as possible and painted a picture of the situation. I didn't talk about immigration because it's an obvious problem, and our tourism sector is faltering. Nothing is standing up anymore in the country. This catastrophic situation breaks my heart
Anonymous (ID: nYArliGf) No.60874810
>>60874804
didn't mean to quote (you) specifically
Anonymous (ID: nYArliGf) No.60874831
>>60874806
>The EU is expensive for a negative gain; it is a source of regulation
That's actually a very good point.

I know some people that tried creating proper businesses (not micro-entrepreneur) and got fucked by all the legal fees, and when you have unwind your failing business it costs too, doubly fucking you in the ass.
Even in the software space you have to account so much, that a lot of your technical time is spent on respecting bullshit norms that actually only US corps have the money to waste time on.
Actually what they do is first become successful in the US, then decides it's now worth the effort to expand in europe.
It's amazing the numbers of features you unlock nowadays when switching your VPN to US.
Anonymous (ID: oVbmBMSR) No.60874861 >>60874929
>>
All western Europe in this situation
Anonymous (ID: oVbmBMSR) No.60874864
>>60874806
Anonymous (ID: itIzjlIc) No.60874896
is it a coincidence this all comes out after they oppose Israel?
Anonymous (ID: dpys18fo) No.60874929 >>60874942
>>60874861
Obviously, since it's the EU that forces countries to do this, but in France it's been pushed to a crazy point. Currently, Italy is more reliable than France. Its debt is underrated. The rating agencies have even postponed France's rating because it should be downgraded, but they don't want to because it would make the situation worse. The difference with Germany, for example, is that their social system is less burdensome than ours, and they export more even today, and the private sector actually exists. You can't say: it's completely the same. We're all going in the same direction because of Brussels, but not in the same way or at the same pace.
Anonymous (ID: dpys18fo) No.60874942
>>60874929
I'll add this for the idiots and slow-witted here: the direction Brussels is going is called suicide. Just in case anyone hasn't seen it.
Anonymous (ID: Cz04dv4H) No.60874985
>>60873907 (OP)
>Why is France in such a fiscal mess?
Because whenever you mention to someone how bullshit is the tax system, they say "weeeell if I had money I'd be glad to play all these taxes, it beat being poor hon hon hon".
Even rich people virtue signal by saying how the system is great and how much they love paying taxes.
Even the far right love taxes, they will start a civil war to deport legal working immigrants before they even think about lowering the spendings in the domains that matters.

>Will the ECB fire up the printers to save them?
No, the UE doesn't mind France being pressured into reforming its system, but again the country is allergic to cutting spendings so it will be about squeezing as much money out of the population as possible.
Especially the middle class
Anonymous (ID: Cz04dv4H) No.60875019 >>60875165 >>60875315 >>60876237 >>60876597 >>60876619 >>60883830 >>60888904 >>60889782
>>60874027
>late stage socialism for 3rd world freeloaders
Common misconception, the vast majority of taxes are used to pay the the retirement of white boomers and for the healthcare of white boomers.
Then comes the payment of the debt's interests (to mostly white boomers).
Then comes education (mostly to the benefit of white women).
Administration (mostly white women)
Gibs to corporation (white boomers)
Culture (mostly white leftists).

Even assuming that non-whites benefits from 50% of gibs to poor people despite being 15% if the population, that's just 5% of total spending. And it doesn't even take into account they pay.
Anonymous (ID: 4jNUrIzf) No.60875023
>>60874578
This
Anonymous (ID: c3N1BTJP) No.60875089
>>60874806
>Extensive and extremely unfair regulations (for example, you can't fly a drone within 30 meters of buildings, and training costs €5,000 to obtain all the necessary permits.
This is based.
Anonymous (ID: uEjsw1z5) No.60875165 >>60883830
>>60875019
this, this and this.
Incels and chuds should refrain from talking about things they don't have a slightest clue about.
Anonymous (ID: 7COwVZyy) No.60875184
>>60874441
How do you have a revolution in France when the real government is in Brussels?
Anonymous (ID: qR+GoxfR) No.60875315
>>60875019
>Justice : 5€
>Infrastructures : 11€

thats why I ride a dual sport and constantly walk around in full motorcycle armor with a telescopic baton and a pepper spray gel can
Anonymous (ID: 7jDWAlbd) No.60875327 >>60876276
why? i'm french too

2 millions fake public services jobs where people work 10h a week
Massive corruption, embezzling of funds in subtle ways (leftists associations, fake companies, advantages of high level state workers..)
Massive taxes which makes rich people and businesses leave
Massive wellfare state
Fucked demographics because of feminism, so young pay for old people retirements unlike in usa where you save for your own retirement

France is a shit hole. I hate this country. But it's a big country relatively and there are many nice large area of nature that 90% of people here never even realized it exists where life is still very good.
France is a semi communist state

And cherry on top, shitskins, wellfare leeching, dead algerians still receiving their retirement pensions, and many unfair advantages for foreigners.
The problem is going to get worse in the following years but a debt default isn't going to happen before a few years because french companies are buying the debt under government pressure and european central bank will have to buy it to avoid a global collapse unlike greece.

So i think something really bad is coming the french people are retarded leftists for more than half of them, then brown people will always block the right wing, but we still have some time before a real default / greece situation that WILL inevitably happen because believe me people here are fucking r3dditors with 0 economic sense and the worst leftists takes
Anonymous (ID: Ro2BgIrl) No.60875337
>>60873907 (OP)
>brown majority
enough said
Anonymous (ID: wGLJNXqV) No.60875348 >>60875455 >>60876237
the native french are lazy as it is, all they want to do is smoke cigarettes and have sex. remember the chimp out when they wanted to increase the retirement age. imagine adding infinite islamists on top of that.
Anonymous (ID: egzlygFE) No.60875443 >>60876523
>>60873907 (OP)
>Import 10 generations of thirdies
>These thirdies find out the gibs program
>Exploit to the maximum and refuse to work.

This is why controlled immigration is very important, just because the population is aging doesnt mean you flood the country with millions of people.
Anonymous (ID: wCyK3krT) No.60875455 >>60875666 >>60876237
>>60875348
It's a joke of a country. They are closer to Italians or Greeks than to us nordics
Anonymous (ID: gWsGftgj) No.60875582
>>60873907 (OP)
Which part of
>France
did you not understand?
Anonymous (ID: gWsGftgj) No.60875666 >>60876237 >>60876280 >>60876297
>>60875455
Pretty sure it's Catholicism's fault.
Anonymous (ID: ExyYB0pr) No.60876237 >>60876589 >>60876615
>>60875348
>>60875455
>>60875666
Just about every major European country was civilized by French Catholics at some point in the last 1500 years so your argument is invalid. Even the Common Law was largely derived under French dynastic rule.
>>60875019
You missed my point. The freeloading doesn't stop at the border. This is what globalization was all about: shifting productive capital from 1st world workers to 3rd world shitholes, and making up the difference with "welfare" as domestic industries were completely gutted. Watch the first part of this interview with James Goldsmith, he explains it all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwmOkaKh3-s
Anonymous (ID: cxZ2+p78) No.60876276 >>60876416
>>60875327
This, France is too big to fall, it's like 10 times bigger than Greece and they will not invite France to leave the EU.

ECB is going to print as much money as they need.
Anonymous (ID: wCyK3krT) No.60876280 >>60887439 >>60887557
>>60875666
It's one of the reasons. But there are many more. Went to France and it was a dirty and stinky shithole. Awful place.
Anonymous (ID: cxZ2+p78) No.60876297 >>60876330
>>60875666
>>60873939
>it's Catholicism's fault.
Why?
Anonymous (ID: d3s2gFKc) No.60876310 >>60876597
>>60874806
Frenchman here, I have not much to add. It's a bureaucratic mess led by a caste that's more focused on securing its own interests than the interests of the country. Usually, that's when a country starts turning to absolute shit.
The funniest part is the media still mostly in denial about this, and are trying to sugarcoat the situation for the boomers on TV. Meanwhile, said boomers are completely protected while sucking up 25% of all taxes as pensions, in addition to already being the wealthiest demographic group the country has ever seen.
The government still refuses to make the drastic but necessary cuts on social expenditures which should have been done years ago, if not decades ago already.
It's all downhill from there.
Anonymous (ID: O3RdQX6S) No.60876330 >>60876359
>>60876297
Jewish myth that Protestant golems are more productive to rationalize their enslavement. Funniest thing is that it worked.
Anonymous (ID: FHBY0im+) No.60876359
>>60876330
fun fact, britain used to have a rich actually interesting culture akin to traditional france or bavaria but it was wiped out by puritans who thought it was evidence of cadolig laziness/debauchery
Anonymous (ID: 7jDWAlbd) No.60876416 >>60876624
>>60876276
it's too big to fail but if it does not reform within the following years it's going to fail.

I think a default around 2028 is much more possible than now.
And if they really want to pay the debt, they just reduce boomers pensions by 20% and gibs to invaders and they will have enough to pay
Anonymous (ID: 4i/uwOjI) No.60876523 >>60876679
>>60875443
Every damn technical position is held by arabs that came on a student visa, the french are studying arts or some such.
Anonymous (ID: vtT51bfd) No.60876552
>>60874806
So you're funding everyone except yourself? Can you lend me €50B please?
Anonymous (ID: w0m+icEa) No.60876572 >>60882330
>>60873907 (OP)
>Why is France in such a fiscal mess?
It probably isn't. This feels like a media-manufactured crisis so that (((banks))) can step in.
Anonymous (ID: Cz04dv4H) No.60876589 >>60886510
>>60876237
I didn't missed your point, you said something retarded and because I corrected you, you're retroactively inventing a new meaning to it. I forgive you, enjoy the rest of the weekend
Anonymous (ID: w0m+icEa) No.60876590 >>60876609
>>60874806
>(useless since nuclear power covered our needs anyway)
Your nuclear sector is fucked since you lost Mali and Niger. The turbines are necessary if you don't want the whole country going dark.
Anonymous (ID: Cz04dv4H) No.60876597
>>60876310
>Meanwhile, said boomers are completely protected while sucking up 25% of all taxes as pensions, in addition to already being the wealthiest demographic group the country has ever seen.
Much more than 25% when you consider that they're the first beneficiary for healthcare, see >>60875019
Anonymous (ID: O7OXlmUu) No.60876604
>>60874804
>But most long term normie natives don't seem to be bothered by it, and mostly think it's a good thing.
Same in every western country
As long as normies are comfortable, nothing changes
Thats why they want to slowly swap majority demographics in every western country
Anonymous (ID: dpys18fo) No.60876609 >>60876630
>>60876590
What are you talking about, you filthy retard? We're still getting as much of it, and even if we no longer have supplies in those countries, we can buy it in Canada. Our reactors aren't even all running right now. French nuclear power has been sacrificed in favor of Germany, but the plants are still working perfectly.
Anonymous (ID: w0m+icEa) No.60876615
>>60876237
Globalism remains an issue caused by Euro meddling. Industry heading to the GS is just what naturally would have developed if their economies hadn't been forcibly molded into wealth- and resource-extracting machines for Euro firms to capitalize on.
This is the truth the Euro must face.
Anonymous (ID: O7OXlmUu) No.60876619 >>60876633
>>60875019
That'll change fast in the near future as non-whites are well over 1/3rd to 1/2 of the population in various western countries
Anonymous (ID: Cz04dv4H) No.60876624 >>60885742 >>60889739
>>60876416
>gibs to invaders and they will have enough to pay
Another common case of /pol/cels not knowing how to count, pure gibs is less than 2% of global spendings.

To be significants the cuts have to be done, on top of retirement, on healthcare and education, but nobody is ready for this conversation so the left will screech about taxing the 1% and the right will screech about reducing gibs, when in both cases that's completely insignificant.
Anonymous (ID: w0m+icEa) No.60876630 >>60876636
>>60876609
You lost your sources of cheap uranium, the industry isn't viable anymore in its prior form. They're trying to keep it quiet because it's truly a terminal situation
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y23lvm05no
Anonymous (ID: Cz04dv4H) No.60876633
>>60876619
Completely irrelevant to the numbers we're discussing. This system doesn't work with a white population, and it won't work either with a black, yellow or blue population.
Anonymous (ID: O7OXlmUu) No.60876636 >>60876658
>>60876630
fuel costs are an irrelevant part of nuclear energy cost structure
Anonymous (ID: w0m+icEa) No.60876658 >>60876688
>>60876636
Fuel sourcing is still a vital part of the power generation process and therefore the nuclear energy revenue structure.
Anonymous (ID: nYArliGf) No.60876679
>>60876523
Actually true. I was about to ask how but the french education system before "grandes ecoles" was ran into the ground not unlike what happened in the US.
It's a systemic failure.
Anonymous (ID: O7OXlmUu) No.60876688 >>60876704
>>60876658
uranium ore is sold on a global market, you can just buy it from whereever
Or recycle your old "waste"
Or make your own mines since Uranium is a very common metal
Anonymous (ID: QGGyEV7L) No.60876696
good let it burn
Anonymous (ID: w0m+icEa) No.60876704 >>60876709
>>60876688
All of that is more of a headache and increases costs beyond that of tapping an existing supply line. Pricing might be commoditized, but it's a real resource that exists in the real world and has real costs related to transportation, storage, and recycling and/or and supply that change when a source closes its doors to you.
As I said, there are elements that want to keep the severity of the issue downplayed.
Anonymous (ID: O7OXlmUu) No.60876709 >>60877323
>>60876704
? There is no severity
They can just go buy one shipment of it from Kazakhstan and be fine for a decade
Nuclear is only made hard or expensive by bureaucrats/regulators
Anonymous (ID: Zafrvh0N) No.60876911
Paris is a really cool city, been there twice, but it's completely overrun by Arabs and blacks, it is fucking insane sometimes. There were times I was the only white person on a very crowded subway
It's probably the coolest city I've ever been to, yet it's not fun to be there most of the time
Anonymous (ID: Ytxn+ynY) No.60877076
>>60874806
What you described fits every european country

The eu was a mistake
Anonymous (ID: q0Jsh9hQ) No.60877127 >>60877300 >>60877749 >>60885836
french here

you have 2-3 years left to sell everything you own in this shithole (real estate mostly) before you end up poor like a venezuelan

i left france in 2019 with Bitcoin gains, everytime i go back to visit family it gets browner

i still have two flats to liquidate there, one is on the way but the buyer is constantly postponing the sale, he has until mid october now

i'm serious, if you are still in france when IMF intervenes IT'S OVER FOR YOU, GDP will dump like -25% like in Greece in 2008

Oh btw, the browns will start riot if the handouts are reduced, enjoy staying poor mes compatriotes les plus gros cocus de l'univers
Anonymous (ID: q0Jsh9hQ) No.60877148
Now i live in a 99% white country in eastern europe with a qt slavic gf who wants 3 kids

Last time i saw a brown person was in Paris one month ago

HAVE FUN STAYING POOR AND CHILDLESS IF YOU STAY IN FRANCE
Anonymous (ID: /m+JJ4So) No.60877167 >>60877192 >>60877758 >>60880254 >>60885807
Still doing better than the UK and Germany
Anonymous (ID: q0Jsh9hQ) No.60877192 >>60885807
>>60877167
Britain may be
Germany hell no
Anonymous (ID: nYArliGf) No.60877300
>>60877127
Where did you move? I'm really not thinking about staying and get cryptocucked.
I thought maybe flat tax ain't so bad, but they can "reassess" your status as a trader.

Grim.
Anonymous (ID: w0m+icEa) No.60877323 >>60882940
>>60876709
Okay dude. My posts are a warning to the people who see beyond your bot lies.

To them: Read the article. Kazakhstan is in the Russian sphere of influence.
Anonymous (ID: g9Jmes9K) No.60877749 >>60880215
>>60877127
Real estate haven't dumped significantly ever, it has to do with the kind of debts that are practiced here. Even in a 2008 level crisis it won't dip more than 10% before going back up.
There's problems with owning real estate in France but a sudden dump isn't among them.
Anonymous (ID: g9Jmes9K) No.60877758
>>60877167
A yourube thumbnail said it so it must be true
Anonymous (ID: g9Jmes9K) No.60877762
>>60877777
Anonymous (ID: UD6V49Er) No.60877813
>>60873907 (OP)
No-go zones, where not even the fucking police respond to calls because the Muslims are so violent
France is no longer France
Anonymous (ID: q0Jsh9hQ) No.60880215 >>60880250 >>60882401
>>60877749
-10% in Paris since 2021, not even counting inflation

>MUH REAL ESTATE NEVER GO DOWN
Anonymous (ID: SGbwoNeJ) No.60880250 >>60882353
>>60880215
It might be because I'm only looking at the 8th/9th arrondissement, but prices haven't gone down since 2019 (I know because I've been trying to buy a flat for the past 6 years).
>>60873907 (OP)
The government managed to stabilize spending, but also reduced taxes, hence debt is increasing.
Anonymous (ID: W7hZP+I0) No.60880254 >>60885807
>>60877167
absolutely not true; there is a huge amount of anti-British propaganda out there because of the fear that France or someone else might also leave the EU and basically kill it. This is a very, very dangerous moment for globalism as a result so the lie must be printed that Brexit = bad. Its not. We've grown faster than Germany and France since Brexit and our wages are growing faster for the first time in decades despite some absolutely retarded governance.
Anonymous (ID: 38/BTdvv) No.60880392
>>60874578
that only worked because greece was tiny and couldnt revolt against the entire eu
and the rest of the eu was still functional so tourism dollars still flooded in which meant enough greeks were net beneficiary to the system as not to upset the apple cart

right now its almost the entire eu thats gone over the edge at the same time
they dont have the police to control this mess and there is no tourism escape hatch to make it go down, imf reforms will not be accepted
inb4 you wont do shit cucks
brits used to be the biggest cucks and they are already in full insurrection mode without austerity
Anonymous (ID: fIMSuAeV) No.60882330
>>60876572
how did the media manufacture a 6% annual deficit with near 120% debt to gdp mr conspiracy theorist?
Anonymous (ID: q0Jsh9hQ) No.60882353 >>60882401
>>60880250
shut your stupid fucking mouth french cuck
Anonymous (ID: q0Jsh9hQ) No.60882374 >>60882397 >>60882401
5 YEARS -9%
AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
FRENCH KEKS ARE BUYING KEKSHEDS IN PARIS AND INFLATION IS KILLING THEM EVERY FUCKING HOUR
-9% IN 5 YEARS, NOT EVEN COUNTING INFLATION
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

BUYING BOOMER BAGS AT THE TOP WHEN BITCOIN EXISTS

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ENJOY STAYING POOR
Anonymous (ID: RbAfmbKn) No.60882397
>>60882374
That's because the government made restrictions on airbnb in paris.
Anonymous (ID: RbAfmbKn) No.60882401 >>60883043
>>60880215
>>60882374
>>60882353
Real estate investments provide revenue in the form of rent btw
Anonymous (ID: 4eHYNFi4) No.60882409
What are French girls like, baguette anons? Always dreamed of dating one financially speaking.
Anonymous (ID: kgJpf5Vu) No.60882412 >>60882431 >>60882610
France is like the worst of both worlds, too retarded to manage their own economy, jack shit for industries that might otherwise have made a difference. Germans at least make due with what they have, they have ingenuity, France, on the other hand, has fuck all. There's not one single thing that the French are exceedingly good at. Maybe at being gay.
Anonymous (ID: 7wj9TRPs) No.60882431 >>60882617
>>60882412
dont they have strong unions atleast? im asking because i see them rioting instead of working every other week
Anonymous (ID: 38/BTdvv) No.60882610
>>60882412
maybe not retail facing so you dont know about it, but their nuclear industry is pretty good
Anonymous (ID: RbAfmbKn) No.60882617
>>60882431
The unions aren't actually directly useful but the law is very protecting of workers, if your work contract doesn't have a termination date it's extremely hard to fire you for exemple.
Anonymous (ID: 0Q518wL6) No.60882940 >>60888223
>>60877323
bruh. stop it. Uranium is more common in the earth crust than fucking tin. Dig deep enough in your yard and you may find some.
Anonymous (ID: O7OXlmUu) No.60883043 >>60887550
>>60882401
until the tenant stops paying and you aren't allowed to evict lol
Anonymous (ID: vU6o6+0Z) No.60883830 >>60887541
>>60875019
>>60875165
Denying the genetic inferiority of the third world should get you the death penalty.
Anonymous (ID: GLnG27AV) No.60883837 >>60885741
>>60874020
Ask me how I know you've never visited a French village.
Anonymous (ID: nm2oxYTd) No.60884707 >>60887645
>>60874806
>The country is going into massive debt to send money to Zelensky
Either russian bot or retard brainwashed by russian bots. And imagine how stupid you have to be to get brainwashed by russians.
Anonymous (ID: RlAdP/rE) No.60885718 >>60885741
Tuer des nègres. Décapiter des nègres. Donner un coup de pied circulaire à un nègre dans le béton. Jeter un bébé nègre dans la poubelle. Crucifier des nègres sales. Déféquer dans la nourriture d'un nègre. Lancer des nègres au soleil. Faire revenir des nègres dans un wok. Jeter des nègres dans des volcans actifs. Uriner dans le réservoir d'essence d'un nègre. Au judo, jeter des nègres dans un broyeur à bois. Dévisser la tête des nègres. Dénoncer les nègres au fisc. Couper les nègres en deux au karaté. Écraser les nègres noires enceintes. Piéger les nègres dans des sables mouvants. Écraser les nègres dans le compacteur à déchets. Liquéfier les nègres dans une cuve d'acide. Manger des nègres. Disséquer des nègres. Exterminer les nègres dans la chambre à gaz. Écraser les crânes des nègres avec des bottes à embout d'acier. Incinérer les nègres dans le four. Lobotomiser les nègres. Avorter obligatoirement pour les nègres. Broyer les fœtus de nègres dans le broyeur à ordures. Noyez les nègres dans la graisse de poulet frit. Vaporisez les nègres avec un pistolet laser. Jetez les vieux nègres dans les escaliers. Nourrissez les nègres aux alligators. Découpez les nègres avec un katana.
Anonymous (ID: F7/kCwya) No.60885741 >>60885849
>>60885718
you won't do shit french cuck

>>60883837
french villages are full of coalburning whores
Anonymous (ID: Y3oR+BJQ) No.60885742 >>60887550
>>60876624
>trust my graphics bra
how about no, the economic damage from rapefugees goes beyond gibs.
Anonymous (ID: FrzkW3pr) No.60885756
>>60874255
He's an expert, though.
In progressive technological utopia the only qualification that can exist is expertness.
Anonymous (ID: FrzkW3pr) No.60885767
>>60874558
Going full nat-soc isn't an option because they would get bombed into oblivion by the nigger kike empire.
You cannot print prosperity. That's what retarded liberal cultists never got through their faggot heads.
Anonymous (ID: Yv93wO22) No.60885776
>>60873907 (OP)
The government is ran by jews who're too busy backseating and feeding millions of africans at the expense of white natives. They also live like kings with a ton of free benefits for them, paid by again white natives.
next question ?
Anonymous (ID: cJhzosCQ) No.60885784 >>60885794
>>60873907 (OP)
>Why is France in such a fiscal mess?
Anonymous (ID: FrzkW3pr) No.60885794
>>60885784
There's no way to undo this because young zoomers grow up thinking that being surrounded by Africans is normal and will violently oppose you if you want to deport these people because they like rap.
All formerly white countries are done done. Super done. Way too stupid to survive. The future is in Asia.
Anonymous (ID: D1bNefrN) No.60885807 >>60889797 >>60890434
>>60877167
>>60877192
>>60880254
Why does everyone talk like this? Almost every classmate of mine moved to UK for work (I did too to be fair) and this year they are the fastest growing G7 economy.

Germany is in a fucking recession.
Anonymous (ID: L6PUSZhU) No.60885836
>>60877127
>brown people imagining they are recreating the french revolution
>except its migrants killing middle class whites who own houses
You frogs are going to get what you fucking deserve, sad to say
Europe had a good run but you really fucked up with WW2
Anonymous (ID: 1jj6hBoD) No.60885849 >>60885883 >>60885914
>>60885741
>french villages are full of coalburning whores
France is extremely segregated. In Paris I saw a lot of nogs and arabs but almost no white women with any of them, at least not in public. I was expecting much worse, like LA levels of coalburning but it appears not to be the case.
Anonymous (ID: Yv93wO22) No.60885883
>>60885849
it is in early stages of serious balkanization yes
nobody wants to live near african filth
Anonymous (ID: FrzkW3pr) No.60885914 >>60886208
>>60885849
This is a cope. The coal burning is so bad that white women are unironically getting fucked by literal jeets now. White women seem to have actively embraced dysgenics as a means of waging war on white men.
Anonymous (ID: 7iwmR2kp) No.60886002
>>60874806
As a Frenchman I can say that you're a fucking basement dweller living in a parallel reality.
Anonymous (ID: 6j4ssyYG) No.60886048
>>60873907 (OP)
France's production and refinement industries have stagnated, so there's not a lot to collect tax on and not enough domestic currency present to purchase the products they've outsourced production to abroad. It's really only the state itself and not private property holders losing solvency (and potentially sovereignty!) right now, but this is a major warning sign of an overproduction crisis. This could ripple through the EU.
EU has some mechanisms to prevent this, but this is the first time they've had to be used on what was previously a core country in the economic core. This is unprecedented. France is going to be only the first country to fall from grace.
Anonymous (ID: yERECtde) No.60886208
>>60885914
In France It's actually the niggers and the arabs that are racemixing. The ethnic French do their own thing with a token black or brown thrown in here and there, same in other European countries I've been to.
Anonymous (ID: mOznhoHl) No.60886238
>>60874806
Kek even in the greatest place on earth, EU, there are people loser enough to get brainwashed by russian propaganda. Truly tells something about humanity.
Anonymous (ID: 4k2VJ7wB) No.60886510 >>60887541
>>60876589
>I cannot come up with a rebuttal nor did I watch the most prescient interview ever given on the subject so let me pretend I won a debate that never took place to save face
Typical brown freeloader lmao
Anonymous (ID: LdY7s+hl) No.60887439 >>60887559
>>60876280

It's by far the most beautiful country in the world lol stay mad
It's so funny when americans call marseilles dangerous, it's a paradise compared to american cities and their warzone crime rate kek dhyws
Anonymous (ID: RbAfmbKn) No.60887541 >>60888129
See >>60886510
Retard

>>60883830
Completely irrelevant to the points being made, /pol/cel
Anonymous (ID: RbAfmbKn) No.60887550
>>60885742
Facts don't care about your feelings

>>60883043
Eviction is bound to happen but it's long (about two years). You can get an insurance against this possibility
Anonymous (ID: mOznhoHl) No.60887557 >>60887586
>>60876280
I was to Paris last may and it was very clean. Way cleaner than New York. France has really improved in the last years.
Anonymous (ID: Yv93wO22) No.60887559
>>60887439
>It's so funny when americans call marseilles dangerous
it is, because of browns
today's news in Marseille: https://x.com/BastionMediaFR/status/1962882873549033957
Anonymous (ID: Yv93wO22) No.60887586 >>60887595
>>60887557
>France has really improved in the last years.
on what exactly ? it is crumbling as we speak and is turning into a smelly african hellhole
you naive fag
Anonymous (ID: mOznhoHl) No.60887595 >>60887626
>>60887586
Americans are so retarded when they think that their social media grifters represent reality.
Anonymous (ID: Yv93wO22) No.60887626
>>60887595
Eh non, je vis en Ile-de-France. Chaque matin, je me lève pour contempler la magnifique mer de merde qui sétale sous mes yeux et bientôt sur toute la France. Ce pays est dans le mur, mais continue à penser que des rues "propres" vont changer quoi que ce soit, attardé
Anonymous (ID: 8xHprnll) No.60887643
>>60873907 (OP)
I’m sure it has nothing to do with all the sand niggers they imported .
Anonymous (ID: WiMWHx7H) No.60887645
>>60884707
here you go dog: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/
Anonymous (ID: 72JxwxV+) No.60887760
France has nothing to loot anymore, they are millitary too weak and have been chased out of Africa.Now add shitskins who are consumers of wealth and demography in freefall and you will see it's dead nation. They will be bought by chinks and their women will breed with niggers and arabs.
Anonymous (ID: ExyYB0pr) No.60888129
>>60887541
See what, that you still can't argue for shit? What part of Goldsmith's argument did you not understand? Pensions and welfare were printed out of thin air to sedate the very working class whose jobs and livelihoods were eviscerated to the benefit of the third world.
>muh polcel screeching at calling out thirdies
Lmao knew you were one of them.
Anonymous (ID: X3D9d6q1) No.60888172 >>60888904
>>60873907 (OP)
>will the ECB fire up the printers to save them?
To print enough to save France, they'd need to fuck their entire continent's financial system.
Same as Greece, France could easily get out of this, by cutting all the welfare. But they won't as any politician who proposes that, will be kicked out of office instantly.
Unlike Greece, France is big. Germany can't bail them out.

The issue really is that even if you do save them, and cancel all their debt, they'll go right back building it up again.
And if you try to tell them to be less retarded about spending, they'll vote you out of office. (Or if you're a foreigner bailing them out, hate you forever - like the Greeks hate Merkel for saving their retarded country, and demanding in exchange that they limit some of their most corrupt practices)
Anonymous (ID: w0m+icEa) No.60888223
>>60882940
https://www.spf.org/iina/en/articles/takahashi_04.html
Anonymous (ID: t5zRxK3G) No.60888904 >>60889616
>>60888172
Cutting welfare isn't going to do much, we'd need to cut retirement or healthcare (mostly spent on old people): see >>60875019
Thing is, old people are the only ones supporting Macron nowadays, so I doubt he'll dare openly reduce their retirement
And our healthcare system is already crumbling so they can't simply reduce spending, they'd have to do actual reforms
Anonymous (ID: t5zRxK3G) No.60888917 >>60890407 >>60891384
French bros, where are you investing in?
I used to put most of my savings on ETFs "synthétiques" eligible to a PEA, but I'm now realising that they'll be worthless when France falls, even if what they're replicating doesn't lose value
I'm thinking about buying Norwegian stocks as they're eligible to a PEA while not in the EU, WDYT?
Anonymous (ID: 1wPT+WhW) No.60888924
>>60873907 (OP)
Your melting pot burned.
Anonymous (ID: FksDeYA1) No.60889616 >>60891494
>>60888904
There is no exporting economy in France. Most French companies are stuck in the 1980s with useless bureaucratic bullshit jobs which depend on public debt. Once France will hit the debt wall everyone will realize it's a shithole not even richer than Slovakia or Romania. The French boomers totally destroyed De Gaulle legacy and even leveraged it to generate infinite pension debt. C'est la fin les gars.
Anonymous (ID: r5rv7VTc) No.60889739 >>60889778
>>60876624
One cent spent on brown immigrants is one cent too much.
Anonymous (ID: N2mJY/FE) No.60889756
>>60873907 (OP)
>Why is France in such a fiscal mess?
Literally boomers retiring at 60 sucking the budget dry.
Anonymous (ID: RPhVRsRW) No.60889775
France fucked?
https://companiesmarketcap.com/european-union/largest-companies-in-the-eu-by-market-cap/
Oh vey
Anonymous (ID: JwmU5qXr) No.60889778 >>60889837 >>60889846
>>60889739
Brown immigrants pay taxes too which are mostly used to pay for the retirement and healthcare of white boomers
Anonymous (ID: cwvUSo+W) No.60889782 >>60889850
>>60875019
Euthanasia will come to you, too, look at the biggest two rectangles, it's the only realistic option.
Anonymous (ID: cwvUSo+W) No.60889797 >>60890434
>>60885807
The level of poverty and misery of the lowest strata in britain is really insane for a 1st world country, maybe surpassing even the USA. Sure german numbers look bad but the picture on the ground is much less bleak.
Anonymous (ID: RPhVRsRW) No.60889814
Niggers and arabs in french or Europe pay tax....
LoL
STOP using cocaine, man
Anonymous (ID: t5zRxK3G) No.60889837 >>60890360
>>60889778
While France doesn't share this kind of data, other countries do: non-EU migrants cost infinitely more than they bring through taxes
Anonymous (ID: r5rv7VTc) No.60889846
>>60889778
Both groups should be deported to Africa.
Anonymous (ID: t5zRxK3G) No.60889850
>>60889782
It's already there: it was voted several months ago
Anonymous (ID: Buw8VqSC) No.60890360 >>60890463 >>60890479
>>60889837
The data exists and they show that immigrants are about tax neutral.
France isn't the US, the working class is extremely taxed and the boomer class benefits extremely.
As showed by the data I posted, gibs for poor people is a very small amount of all public spending, less than 2%

I'd hazard the US datas you're referring to conveniently ignore how much corporations and lobbies receive from the government, while having mostly white and jewish people as its beneficiaries.
Anonymous (ID: Buw8VqSC) No.60890407
>>60888917
PEA is first and foremost a ploy to make you invest your money in sub-performing assets, and it doesn't even grant a full tax break so it's barely worth it.

If you really want to I'm pretty sure there's some ETF world and some following the snp500.
France will not fall, but the economy is bound to consistently be outperformed by the US and China until important reforms are made (so probably forever)
Anonymous (ID: rsgQgBdd) No.60890411 >>60890449
Doesn't matter, money is made up anyway and total deficit/debt is still nowhere near USA.

Meanwhile the healthcare, wellbeing, quality of life, age expectency, education parameters etc are way higher. We are in late capitalism entering post-capitalism while some money chasing individuals are taking usa back to the stone age.
Anonymous (ID: yrtJzcQm) No.60890434 >>60891552
>>60885807
They decided Britain must die because it chose to exit the EU. The only weapon they have is propaganda - if you can make enough people believe it maybe it can work?
>>60889797
But it's been like this for decades in Britain. People are acting like it's new all of a sudden because it's convenient to do so. Makes me think the EU is totally fucking fucked big time mate.
Anonymous (ID: Buw8VqSC) No.60890449
>>60890411
>healthcare
Extremely wasteful but granted it's good to never risk crippling debt because of health issues

>wellbeing, quality of life
These are the same things, and considering suicide rates the US seems better

>age expectency
If you take your own life in your hands it doesn't matter if you live in France or the US. It's only advantageous if you're cattle needing handholding from the government

>education
Huge waste of time and at the end the average man is extremely uneducated outside of his job and football
Anonymous (ID: t5zRxK3G) No.60890463
>>60890360
Nah, all the countries that differentiate EU and non-EU migrants say non-EU are an enormous burden:
https://www.thelocal.dk/20211015/denmark-says-non-western-immigrants-cost-state-31-billion-kroner
Anonymous (ID: b83EQqZN) No.60890479
>>60890360
>The data exists and they show that immigrants are about tax neutral.
>Link? IIRC, stuff I've seen shows they are a burden, as many as a third of them don't even have a job.
Anonymous (ID: nYArliGf) No.60891384
>>60888917
All the PEA, Assurance Vie, Pinel and whatever other bullshit always have a catch.
Compte titre ordinaire and pay the 30% cuck tax for freedom to do whatever you want is very underrated.
Anonymous (ID: bo5fr682) No.60891494
>>60889616
French economy was based on looting Africa and China still doing ricefarming and by importing niggers and arabs they fucked up only chance they have (attract high IQ and wealthy whites) I don't anybody would like to migrate to France though it was lovely place to be.
Anonymous (ID: cwvUSo+W) No.60891552
>>60890434
>But it's been like this for decades in Britain.
I know
>People are acting like it's new all of a sudden because it's convenient to do so.
Noone credible could claim britain wasn't an impoverished shithole for the past 50 years