Thread 60884165

I'm an ugly beta male in my mid 30s. In every single workplace or college environment I become the loser loner that nobody talks to within a week of starting.

I haven't had any friends since school, and even then I didn't socialise with them outside of school after around the age of 13.

I haven't had a girlfriend or date or any interest from women ever. I've read about the blackpill and know that it all accords with reality.

Any advice that allegedly fixes the above points seems like ramshackle artifice. Going to clubs or pubs or hobby groups, "just" talking to people, online dating: it's all a humiliation ritual that only normies can succeed at. There's the added humiliation that none of it is "necessary" (physically, financially), meaning people would literally sense the patheticness on me if I did any of it. They'd think I was stupid and desperate, that I'd be someone who was acting like a 1950s caricature ("Just wear a suit and walk in with a firm handshake!), potentially resulting in widespread humiliation (maybe even social media vitality). Being a loser doesn't remove this humiliation; I wouldn't go outside without proper hygiene either.

I've come to see all socialising, whether informal or formal, in groups or with individuals, as a "heads they win, tails I lose" rigged game where people simply assert the preexisting social hierarchy to either insult, ignore, or take advantage of me. If people are in a situation where they don't simply want me to go away as soon as possible, they will try to exploit me in some way, which they will predict they can do because they instinctually (or factually) know that they fit in more than me with other normies, so they will face no consequences if they try to run over me.

> I'm so different
> I'm so weird
> I'm so special

Now you're not. You have little to no self awareness. You're the incel loner because you hate people.

>>60884165 (OP)
Sounds to me you'd fit right in the average link thread

>>60884165 (OP)
Fuggg, this is a brutal blackpill. I can relate to it so much. I've tried everything but nothing works. Jestermaxxing only gets you so far. Yet the calm boring guy with good genetics steals all the attention. People instinctively listen to him when he speaks. I can say something profound and no one will even look at me because I'm ugly. Everything is a veneer. It's all a proxy. We are animals at our very base. And animals don't care what you do or how you speak. They respect and admire good genetics. Men fear/want to follow you, women want to sleep with you. Words don't matter (as long as you're not fully retarded). Your genetics are everything.

>>60884165 (OP)
>>60884196
Robotic women will save billions of men

>>60884165 (OP)
Start being more egoistic. Work only for yourself, not to please others. People already ignore or despise you so you can only win with that approach.

kek I always feel like such a chad when I come onto this site.

Play the victim, become the victim.

>>60884224
Unironically this. Fuck off OP.

>>60884165 (OP)
Yea you’re just not attractive dude. Face>height>frame

>>60884165 (OP)
>One post by this id

>>60884165 (OP)
yep

Feel great even my lady boss reject a creature like you. How dare you still breathing the air for free.

>>60884165 (OP)
Just snort a little meth and hit the local pub, not a club, talk with the old timers first and learn to socialize. Only need a little meth but it'll give you confidence to break outside your shell

Go to the pub… time is running out

>>60884165 (OP)
Ok you might not be able to fix your problem entirely but maybe you can improve it by actually trying and not just complaining about it.
If I were you I would :
>start lifting
>you're probably overweight, if that's the case get on a GLP-1 (Retatruide if you can get it)
>Get on TRT, put on muscle your confidence and energy levels will increase (honestly the most important thing on the list for you)
>If you're short put 1" heel insert in your shoes
>Get a good haircut
>Buy decent stylish clothes- If you have no fashion sense figure it out, go on /fa/ ask how you look send pics of your outfit to chatgpt whatever.

If you put some effort into your appearance you'll be surprised how big of a difference it will make.
Good luck OP.

>>60884393
I was going to say something similar just with benzos. Whenever I took a Xanax I felt like I could charm the fuck out of people. OP you're hating yourself is what's pushing people away, you have to like yourself if you want other people to like you, you need to get rid of your negative self image.

>>60884165 (OP)
Its not only about attractiveness. Its about vril and you're out of it. do nofap for 1 year with no edging and then report the results. Go on /x/ SR to get started.
You are the result of millions of years of reproducing in a world where all beings are programmed to reproduce, the only way to not achieve that is by artificially depleting yourself(porn).

>>60884417
You probably feel that way because you're fucking high lol.
Just like when someone is hammered they think they can dance really well but in actuality they just look like a drunk retard dancing.

>>60884667
Yeah, that's definitely true to some extent. Benzos are fucking evil, and people that are really fucked up on them are the most insufferable people in the world, but if you have self esteem / confidence issues that keep you from socializing well, a small dose obliterates those issues.

>>60884690
Yes agreed, a football xanax will definitely break down some walls and make you more sociable.
I was speaking more towards people who will take a full bar and then go out in the wild

If this situation began when you were 13, deep down you may need to forgive your parents, truly and honestly, for what you subconsciously hold against them. This is easier said than done especially if they haven’t changed.
>>60884218
this is good advice.
And why don’t you try getting ripped? What’s your body fat percentage? No blackpill is forcing you to be obese.
>>60884570
>vril
kek very based

>>60884165 (OP)
Me too. This always happened to me in the past so I stopped caring about trying to make people like me and am now actively rude to everyone. Ironically things are going better for me now than when I cared about other people. Now I just view them all as mindless automatons that aggro on you for no reason, but they don't aggro on me anymore or when they do I call them faggots and they don't bother me anymore.

>>60884165 (OP)
Yeah... I'm pretty much the same. At the end of the day you're going to be alone in the world. And it's pretty alright once you accept it and just do shit for yourself. Not some dogmatic sigma male grindset bullshit, just doing what's good for you and if someone wants to join in then let them, but don't concede your personality to make them comfortable. Life is much more enjoyable when you learn to love yourself unconditionally. (Not some twisted idea of love either, actual love like you would wish for a dog you've had for 10 years where no matter what, even if it's painful, you do the right thing for them). You don't need women, friends, family. They can add on to an already fulfilled life, but get to that point first and then let people in. See TWIM from Bhante Vimalaramsi, Mooji's teachings, and Neville Goddard. You'll make it.

>>60884165 (OP)
Let me guess. You don't lift and are brown.

>>60887463
I definitely need friends. I know i’m not that special (despite not being introverted).

>>60887492

I lift.

>>60884165 (OP)
Do you still listen to Cum Town?

>>60884393
>>60884417
Horrifically bad advice. alcohol is probably the best option to ease nerves. xanax goes from chilled out to "I've irreparably ruined my life" in a few mg. meth and coke are the stimulant versions of this. whatever benefits you get, are inevitably outweighed by the cons. Just take a shot. that's at least socially acceptable

>>60884179
Correct, it’s pure narcissism. He hates himself so he projects in others. His self negative self image forever in conflict with his self preservation instinct.

>>60884165 (OP)
Nigga you’re mid 30’s. You should have fixed this shit 10 years ago at the latest. You definitely have autism or some other mental disorder since there are millions of short and ugly guys out there living life getting friends and gfs. Stop blaming this on your looks (which is a real thing, but it’s not an excuse to be a 35 year old friendless virgin shut in)

>>60884165 (OP)
Also, having no women interested in you is the default situation for like 75% of the male population. Women don’t make the first move, that’s our job. I’ve never in my life had a woman make any kind of move on me, and I’ve dated several women and fucked several more. I’m also an ugly 5’4 manlet. I’m no Casanova, some women were fat, some were average, some pretty. But I’m not a khv

>>60888524
Based Jungian analysis right here. Honestly, only way to fix this is to shatter your ego in a way that humbles yourself to your fellow man.

>>60884165 (OP)
>a rare ugly beta male in the wild, wassup

>>60889220
>Honestly, only way to fix this is to shatter your ego in a way that humbles yourself to your fellow man.
Care to elaborate?

>>60884165 (OP)
find something you're passionate about.

>>60884165 (OP)
Go to the gym and get ripped

>>60884165 (OP)
Pick one thing and get extremely good at it.

Why do normgroids instantly aggro us

>>60890863
maybe they aggro you because you call them normgroids behind their back and they can instinctively tell how you look down on them even though they are superior to you?

>>60889478
You have to slow down and realize you don't have all the answers and you're not king of the world. You have to express your real self to others and try to connect with them with no expectations. In other words, OP is likely a faggot and just needs to come out of the closet already. He's been lying to himself his whole life about liking women and that's why he's still a virgin.
We're rooting for you, OP!

>>60884179
>>60888524
>>60889220
Exhibit A completely proving OP right LMAO, this hellsite has been overrun by normgroids.

>>60890886
>assuming anyone like this was always like this
Lol

>>60887423
It gets 100% easier once you stop caring or trying. It’s like they can sense whether you care and hate you if you do.

>>60884179
OP didnt imply ANY of that there are SO MANY 30+ men that know they will never be received positively in a social setting because the time for that is long gone.

>>60884165 (OP)
I'm sorry, that is a very bad problem, but this is business and finance.