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Anonymous (ID: nbTriIRe) No.60891583 >>60891598 >>60891643 >>60891648 >>60891655 >>60891662 >>60891686 >>60891845 >>60891865 >>60891878 >>60891996 >>60893253 >>60894838
>We don't need to lower interest rat-
Anonymous (ID: l1C3xfxa) No.60891598 >>60891630
>>60891583 (OP)
>CEO fires 4000 workers for "AI"
>LOWER THE INTEREST RATE!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous (ID: mmcQwPT/) No.60891630 >>60891639 >>60891650 >>60891848 >>60891926
>>60891598
Do it or I will unironically start to eat the rich. Literally.
Anonymous (ID: k6wHOGx2) No.60891639
>>60891630
trim the fat first!
Anonymous (ID: 9gasyBPG) No.60891643 >>60891690 >>60891857 >>60892745 >>60894598
>>60891583 (OP)
lowering interest rates will only make housing more unaffordable and continue the trend of keeping young people renting forever.
we need higher rates and a few years of pain, or we're condemned to drawing out the agony for another 2 decades or more. make friends with pain.
Anonymous (ID: 1Hju0y6P) No.60891648
>>60891583 (OP)
we're in a post-job society.
Anonymous (ID: 1bSfPVTZ) No.60891650 >>60891800
>>60891630
You'll eat a bullet first, fatty.
Anonymous (ID: Kp0sjurw) No.60891655
>>60891583 (OP)
If you add the people that stopped looking for work, it's probably more like 2009 lol
Anonymous (ID: X3Fy6clH) No.60891662
>>60891583 (OP)
I'm sorry anon, inflation is still too high. We can't lower rates as much as businesses would like.
Anonymous (ID: mJ/jyMv3) No.60891665 >>60891679
jobs aren't real and no one has one
Anonymous (ID: p4XnKyM9) No.60891679
>>60891665
Wise words.
Anonymous (ID: CXCHMjkU) No.60891686 >>60892788
>>60891583 (OP)
I voted for this
Anonymous (ID: nfk6Byze) No.60891690
>>60891643
Problem is we've already had 20 years of pain, briefly paused by the 2017-2019 growth run (kneecapped by covid, and pulverized into the dirt afterwards by globohomo). What we *need* is getting off the teat of a credit and usury fueled economy and abolish the fed.
Anonymous (ID: mmcQwPT/) No.60891800
>>60891650
Stop shitposting on 4chan, Bezos.
Anonymous (ID: 3agQe6a0) No.60891845
>>60891583 (OP)
americans are just lazy and wont fill those job openings. We NEED skilled immigrants
Anonymous (ID: pUCbCstd) No.60891848 >>60891849
>>60891630
lmao no you won't pussy
Anonymous (ID: mmcQwPT/) No.60891849
>>60891848
Starvation is a good motivator for cannibalism.
Anonymous (ID: /EFLP3HW) No.60891851 >>60892801
Pokemon cards are trading at ATH.

Raise the interest rates
Anonymous (ID: f4OQiVge) No.60891857 >>60891897 >>60893060
>>60891643
>lowering interest rates will only make housing more unaffordable and continue the trend of keeping young people renting forever.
>we need higher rates and a few years of pain, or we're condemned to drawing out the agony for another 2 decades or more
Brainlet take. Interest rates need to go down to incentivize economic growth and create jobs so normgroids and wagies can make some money. The housing shortage needs to be solved by actually building houses and increasing supply but unfortunately won't happen in certain areas (Cuckifornia). Poorfags will simply have to move to where it's cheaper, sorry.
Anonymous (ID: lXOJrfZX) No.60891865
>>60891583 (OP)
Gigabullish.
BILLIONS WILL PRINT!
Anonymous (ID: S0aLDTaL) No.60891878
>>60891583 (OP)
They'll just blame the inflation on your wages even though you still can't afford a house.
Anonymous (ID: X+FF2WW/) No.60891897 >>60893271
>>60891857
there are no jobs where it's cheaper dumb nigger bitch
Anonymous (ID: u5PORydh) No.60891926 >>60891979
>>60891630
Communist niggers like you think you are against the rich but you actually do everything evil rich Jews want. Nothing but subhuman golem you are. Ie useful idiots
Anonymous (ID: RZRGIP4N) No.60891979
>>60891926
> le useful idiots
There is some truth to this. In Europe, you can see this phenomenon clearly. Support the poor and the lazy socially to a point of ridiculousness, and they will keep voting for you. It's a bargain.
Only now these useful idiots and their masters are beginning to realize there is no more money.
Anonymous (ID: D/IX/P1L) No.60891996
>>60891583 (OP)
ah yes the fake job openings
Anonymous (ID: aoHiLF1Y) No.60892021
open the fucking coal mines! Drill more oil! DRILL BABY DRILL
Anonymous (ID: oOcf0PlR) No.60892282 >>60892904
>fed signals readiness to cut in September
>long end of the yield goes UP
Few people understand just how FUCKED they all are
Anonymous (ID: ADxnWVBP) No.60892745 >>60892930 >>60893692
>>60891643
High rates doesn't mean houses get cheaper since you're also increasing the price of mortgages. The real problem is wage suppression and population density. You can solve both by doing things like reducing outsourcing and immigration.
Anonymous (ID: sAilLNrL) No.60892788 >>60893041
>>60891686
No refunds
Anonymous (ID: FdeRTNPv) No.60892801 >>60892888
>>60891851
I was recently at a local independent game shop and guys were all talking about their latest pulls and cards they'd bought. Thing is, none of them were talking about pokemon, playing the game, or the cards themselves. All they were discussing was the cash value.

It's a bubble.
Anonymous (ID: nbTriIRe) No.60892888
>>60892801
The entire economy is a bubble.
Anonymous (ID: +uf0lwj3) No.60892904 >>60892960
>>60892282
?
us 30yr yield fell a lot today
Anonymous (ID: D6MAdJLZ) No.60892930 >>60893224
>>60892745
Houses aren't getting that cheaper in countries with emigration like Hungary countries with a heavily decreasing population
Anonymous (ID: oOcf0PlR) No.60892960
>>60892904
Zoom out. It's back to 2007 levels. Right before everything went to shit.
Anonymous (ID: nbTriIRe) No.60893041
>>60892788
Anonymous (ID: hFQ0upT0) No.60893060 >>60893175 >>60893271
>>60891857
We don't need to build more houses though, we need to send more H1Bs back
Anonymous (ID: AL91tITT) No.60893175 >>60893649
>>60893060
>We don't need to build more houses
Kill yourself, boomer fuck.
Anonymous (ID: pAtAHqtM) No.60893194
AI will fix everything
Anonymous (ID: ADxnWVBP) No.60893224
>>60892930
By what metric are they not getting cheaper though?

Nominal prices on something like a house isn't telling the full story since you're not just paying for a house in cash, you take out a mortgage with interest paymensts. You also have to look at things like wage growth and whether they're beating the price of mortgages in growth over time. Obviously if wages aren't growing that just adds to my point that the core issue is wage suppression and obviously there's different countries with different causes for slow or negative wage growth and immigration is just one example. Hungary for example has to deal with for example the rest of the EU being way more competitive in a variety of fields, resulting in the same effect as outsourcing even if they never had an industry that was outsourced. If say Germany has an EV sector but can't make EVs as cheaply as China, the German EV industries dies and there's some degree of pressure on wages. If Hungary could never even have attempted to start their own EV sector because they can't even compete with Germany, their just never have an EV industry in the first place which keep wages low even if they're not falling.

Simply raising interest rates to force home prices down just results in people not only being priced out of home ownership, it forces rents up as well since most rental properties are mortgaged. If the goal is to force them on the market again, well, you've basically just done it by forcing the land lord into selling because he can't find tenants and he's close on being underwater on his mortgage or he's just actually defaulting. None of that is good.
Anonymous (ID: oJjMnHlL) No.60893253 >>60894756
>>60891583 (OP)
I don't think lowering the interest rate is going to sooth the bond market. Eventually you'll have to pay for a century of bad decisions. It will manifest in an economic downturn, high jobless rate and now once rates get lowered hyperinflation. Weird how everyone is preparing for war, or trying to. Lowering interest rates will benefit older and richer demographics whose asset classes will continue to inflate, until they don't anymore. Threats of system collapse and contagion are already here, it's the entire western world that is at the cusp of a debt crisis. Lower it, lower it to zero or even negative, surely that will lower the cost of living for people and encourage work force participation. It couldn't possibly continue the cycle of deleting jobs via jeets and AI.
Anonymous (ID: jGZp2+NP) No.60893271
>>60891897
Not my problem.
>>60893060
Why not both?
Anonymous (ID: e/8A9H+U) No.60893649
>>60893175
There are enough houses for everyone that could live in one, they just aren't all available or within everyone's price range.
Building more will just give you more choice of model a, model b or model c in the new 450-550k development projects
Anonymous (ID: a6LJYq4K) No.60893692 >>60894740
>>60892745
Higher rates directly cause decreased housing demand which directly cause lower housing prices BRAINLET
Anonymous (ID: AIiupsWv) No.60894598 >>60894632
>>60891643
No, cut property taxes for family main residences, raise taxes on short term rentals and all secondary properties, crack down on section 8, and abolish corporate ownership of single family housing. That’s it.
Anonymous (ID: wyKRyqQg) No.60894632 >>60894756
>>60894598
I have never read a more anti-Semetic post in my entire life
Anonymous (ID: AL91tITT) No.60894740
>>60893692
It causes lower house prices, not lower housing prices.
Anonymous (ID: gahmkcjG) No.60894756
>>60893253
The bond market can be "bailed in" through yield curve control or "bailed out" through hyperinflation
>>60894632
Most real estate investors that have been locking up supply are just dumb fucking boomers with nothing better to do.
Anonymous (ID: 9tDJIZeG) No.60894838 >>60894927
>>60891583 (OP)
Every person gets different interest rates. Why do people talk about rates like its a universal constant?
Anonymous (ID: GTmbb5nG) No.60894844
So, will Americans crash the market today?
Anonymous (ID: LWt6WsFh) No.60894927 >>60894934 >>60894941
>>60894838
Every well-qualified buyer will have a comparable rate if locked on the same day. Maybe if your credit score is sub 740 you pay more but then you also probably shouldn’t be buying a house.
Anonymous (ID: nbTriIRe) No.60894934
>>60894927
I had a 780 credit score and got a 2.5% interest rate on my mortgage.
Anonymous (ID: 9tDJIZeG) No.60894941
>>60894927
Interest rates are more than mortgage rates.
Different rates for every kind of thing. But people just say "rates"