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Anonymous (ID: YG6uuvVd) No.60900571 >>60900742 >>60900756 >>60900910 >>60902125 >>60902283 >>60902950
All in US T-Bonds
Day 4
Anonymous (ID: XtYkino3) No.60900641
God bless you fren
Anonymous (ID: HqDnUNKL) No.60900742 >>60900767
>>60900571 (OP)
how do you get +4% in a week when they pay 4% per year?
Anonymous (ID: xSbyN5LE) No.60900756
>>60900571 (OP)
basado bastardo
Anonymous (ID: YG6uuvVd) No.60900767 >>60900999 >>60902283
>>60900742
im buying edv (vangaurd extended duration treasury index fund)
Anonymous (ID: UbuLdrGW) No.60900910 >>60900931
>>60900571 (OP)
So this tracks bond price not yield? Probably a good buy right now with cuts right around the corner. I’ve got some tbills maturing later this year maybe I’ll buy a bag
Anonymous (ID: J8e11l/l) No.60900931 >>60900963 >>60901375
>>60900910
rate cuts are already priced in. learn how the markets work before buying anything
Anonymous (ID: 0i2AYQtD) No.60900945 >>60900952 >>60901281 >>60902198
I can never understand bonds. Yields vs costs vs rates vs premiums vs sticker price vs the other price. Too confusing. Let alone as an etf.
Is this ultimately a bet for or against the stability of the dollar / US govt?
Anonymous (ID: xSbyN5LE) No.60900952
>>60900945
Its a bet on money printing
Anonymous (ID: UbuLdrGW) No.60900963
>>60900931
Yea yea everything was priced in ten years ago, two more weeks, etc
Anonymous (ID: 7+P8Vu9p) No.60900999 >>60902283
>>60900767
This shit double bottomed in may and could be on the start of a decade+ uptrend. Good shit nigga.
Anonymous (ID: YG6uuvVd) No.60901281
>>60900945
the price of the bond and the yield of the bond are inversely correlated, it's simple. dont overthink it
Anonymous (ID: k3KmUSqt) No.60901375
>>60900931
Nothing is ever priced in.
Anonymous (ID: dqA8J4y6) No.60902075
Now is a good time to get into bonds of all times, BOND CHADS RISE UP
Anonymous (ID: bSTQCCiu) No.60902125
>>60900571 (OP)
Comfy
Anonymous (ID: UmQ9gqZ1) No.60902198 >>60902358 >>60902360 >>60902400
>>60900945
>I can never understand bonds. Yields vs costs vs rates vs premiums vs sticker price vs the other price. Too confusing.

Imagine this:

You have $100 left. I tell everyone "Give me $100 today, and will give you a certificate that you can redeem from me for $121 exactly 2 years from today."

That certificate is a bond.

Costs: $100 (what you paid)
Sticker Price: $100
Yield: $121 - $100 = $21
Rates: 10% per annum ($100 * 1.1 = $110, $110 * 1.1 = $121)

You give me your last $100 and buy the certificate.

The next day, I tell everyone: "I have a new certificate for sale today. For $100, you can redeem it for $144 exactly 2 years from today."

Shit, that is a 20% rate, a much better deal than what you got. Coincidentally, you just remembered your BLACKED.com subscription just ran out and unfortunately you are out of cash. So you need to sell yesterday's certificate ASAP.

... But wait, why would anyone buy your old certificate from you for $100, when they can buy the new certificate which will pay +20% per year instead of your +10%????? Instead, you need to drop your sell price so your certificate, which is worth $121 in 2 years, will pay out +20% per year.

Face value: $84 ($84 * 1.2 * 1.2) = $121

You go to the open market and offer your certificate for sale for $84, which is a comparable price to the latest certificate. But Rabbi Sheckelstein knows you're desperate to blow your load to Elsa Jean getting plowed by Dredd's 9" BBC, so he takes advantage and offers to buy your certificate for $80...

Other price: $80
Premium / Discount: $20 discount
Anonymous (ID: UD0zBXeI) No.60902283 >>60902754
>>60900571 (OP)
>>60900767
>>60900999
>how to lose money on a real basis annually going forward
Anonymous (ID: 4UgHkmUY) No.60902303
>bonds
Anonymous (ID: otIxPCiK) No.60902358
>>60902198
>you just remembered your BLACKED.com subscription
I subscribe to a free site for bbc.
Otherwise, excellent writeup, and very relatable
Anonymous (ID: Pt2oX4PL) No.60902360 >>60902369
mutt economists: >>60902198
Anonymous (ID: otIxPCiK) No.60902369
>>60902360
it's just difficult to stop bbc. it has spread through academia like the plague
Anonymous (ID: UbuLdrGW) No.60902400
>>60902198
>you just remembered your BLACKED.com subscription just ran out
This is why I keep coming back here. Can’t get this type of expert analysis anywhere else
Anonymous (ID: YG6uuvVd) No.60902754 >>60902908
>>60902283
again, im not invested in the yield, but the price of the bond itself, which is extremely volatile and sensitive to interest rates
Anonymous (ID: UD0zBXeI) No.60902908
>>60902754
a.k.a. how to lose money on a real basis forever in the age of quantitative easing and shifting global monetary system

at least allocate a good amount to gold
Anonymous (ID: 0svMDPXL) No.60902950
>>60900571 (OP)
Same except I am doing it slowly and dividing it with gold, T-bonds and low beta, dividend stocks.