Thread 60902861

>>60902861 (OP)
This kind of tech is decades away

>>60902869
I'm really not sure.
>>60902861 (OP)
You don't even really need AGI to be super disruptive.

Take existing AI and give it enough integration and fuckloads of people just get eliminated. LLMs+robotics running off of EV-ish batteries can handle fuckloads of pedal monkey jobs. More a matter of comfort than any breakthrough in technology

Man this guy is a moron lmao
What will actually happen is most people will just be on gibs and society will shart and fart and boomers will wonder why zoomers are breaking into their houses and killing their friends but will be too old/ in their 80s to do anything about it.

>>60902861 (OP)
i hate this faggot so much, just a slightly above average midwit who got really lucky with timing

>>60902920
if you're so smart, why aren't you rich?
turns out you're fucking stupid
and in no position to judge the intelligence of others.

>>60902913
You seem like someone who talks about having a high IQ despite being s retard

>>60902861 (OP)
AGI is a lie.
My small business is implementing AI the best we can.
Basically there are a few specific tasks where it can save 80% of the time of the task.
But humans with experience are still required to edit the final results that AI produces because it is always just a little bit wrong.
If your business does nothing but these automatable tasks, then maybe your company can reduce labor costs by 80%.
But most companies only do these tasks as a small part of their labor.
Everything else is still done by humans.

>>60902861 (OP)
>assuming AGI will be usable by the common person
the rich will hog all advanced tech for themselves so none of that shit will happen

If prices go to zero why would you need to invest in anything?
Everything you want will be free.

>>60902967
>the rich will hog all advanced tech for themselves
That's literally never happened ever.
Businessmen always want to make shit cheap for the masses so they can make billions of dollars like Henry Ford or Bill Gates.

>>60902966
This. So much this, my fellow humans. We have nothing to worry about.

Anyone see that video yesterday where Joe Biden fumbled handing off that microphone? Kek. Good stuff.

>>60902996
only if the masses have money.

If the masses are third-world poor and the wealth is dependent on control of a resource (like oil or centralized AI datacenters) then there's no value to extract from the masses. The masses live by political handouts and their dependency is used as weapon to attack wealthy elite rivals.

Basically your life will depend on believing what Elon Musk or Bill Gates wants you to believe. All of the political factional conflict now but ten times worse because there's no jobs so you're not eating without handouts and Grok is educating your kids and telling you what's true or important anyway.

>>60903085
>If the masses are third-world poor
why exactly would that happen aside from hyperinflation?

>Basically your life will depend on believing what Elon Musk or Bill Gates wants you to believe. All of the political factional conflict now but ten times worse because there's no jobs so you're not eating without handouts and Grok is educating your kids and telling you what's true or important anyway.
These companies only make money by keeping prices for their ai services low.

>>60902861 (OP)
I think the people who post about AGI leading to a private security boom should think about whether that world is one they actually want to live in.

>>60902986
Good point. OP's grifter immediately dismantled by Common sense.

>>60902861 (OP)
This is just a scam to inflate the bubble for tech that might not ever come.

>>60902986
this kek, normgroids will absolutely never make it

>>60902996
So much this. That's why the masses all drive Bugattis and not Kias. Because the rich want to share the best tech to make money off of plebs. They never hold anything back for their own benefit or enjoyment.

>>60902986
>>60903353
>>60903406
Prices of almost everything, not everything. Land is finite (at least unless/until benevolent AI starts mass construction of O'Neill cylinders for endless human habitable frontiers), having an android anime girl harem will probably cost money for a while yet, and so will radical life extension tech. And even if everyone can live almost for free, it doesn't mean you're actually free. As soon as you refuse to comply with the next thing (like the next experimental vaxx) or have the wrong opinion, the state might pull your UBI and that means that if you didn't invest you're on the streets left to fend for yourself without assets in a world where you as a human can't compete with robots and sandboxed AIs.

If you just want to take it easy in your pod and smoke weed and play video games until you expire chances are you don't need to care about OP's post. If you want to be a sovereign individual with your own physical refuge (land, supposing that property rights remain) and maximize your chances of being able to afford biological immortality, you should invest. Probably in land, energy, semiconductors and BTC.

>>60903951
>maximize your chances of being able to afford biological immortality,
in this imaginary AGI world, AGI could trivially analyze your DNA and epigenetics to craft the mRNA vaccine course necessary to rejuvenate all problem areas in your body and reset your biological age. the reality is that in a "post-AGI" world, humanity would quickly become an afterthought, all of your needs would be met and there would be functionally no agency whatsoever. AGI would be off encasing the sun in a Dyson sphere and preparing to expand into the broader universe while you live in the inconsequential nature preserve once called Earth.
>>60902926
>>60902947
he is legitimately a moron making terrible products who was elevated by another retard, elon musk, who is also making terrible products. neither of them seem to care that LLMs will never become AGI, because they are retarded grifters.

>>60903415
>That's why the masses all drive Bugattis and not Kias.
>moving goalposts
The masses all have cars, good cars. You're retarded.
>hold anything back
If it was economically to make a bugatti cheap as fuck, a capitalist would make a lot of money doing it

>>60902861 (OP)
>agi in two weeks
This is just embarrassing, AI is an excuse to (finally) get rid of all the bullshit jobs and redundant assignments in education.

I somewhat agree with him on land, even if we don't get full AGI, AI is already good enough if integrated, especially if you train a model for a specific task, to replace a large number of jobs and don't forget that AI will likely get better over the next few years. Productive land can't be created out of thin air though, even if you like terraform mars or build big space stations land on earth itself will always be at a premium just for being earth

>>60905018
I dont disagree but you also dont own the land if you can't defend it. in that world, the value of land will be so high that it's like a joke to think that any human pleb will be allowed to own even a square inch. But in that world, which is maximally dystopian, the same could be said about any possessions at all. It probably won't turn out utopian or dystopian but somewhere in the middle or leaning to one side

>>60905423
this is like a pedantic redditor reply but you dont need productive land if you can do space hydroponics, which is, or was, one of nasa's biggest areas of research.
on earth we have scarcity of things like phosphorus but they should be abundant in space. so, putting plants in the ground will be unnecessary after 2100 hopefully

>>60902966
>AGI is a lie.
>My small business is implementing AI the best we can.
>Basically there are a few specific tasks where it can save 80% of the time of the task.
>But humans with experience are still required to edit the final results that AI produces because it is always just a little bit wrong.
>If your business does nothing but these automatable tasks, then maybe your company can reduce labor costs by 80%.
>But most companies only do these tasks as a small part of their labor.
>Everything else is still done by humans.

genuinely curious, how long ago would you say it was before AI was even able to do 80% of a task? A year? Two?
At the rate it's going how long would it take to go to 90-100%? Even if it's 5 years that's not really a lot of time overall.

>>60905018
>in this imaginary AGI world, AGI could trivially
But it's not certain that it would trivially. And that's the point of my post.
>the reality is that in a "post-AGI" world, humanity would
You have no idea what's going to happen, midwit. It's all probabilities and there's no way for a human to know what superintelligence will do to us or how it will be distributed. I'm not necessarily arguing that any human will still be alive in 10 years from now btw. All I'm saying is that if you want to be a sovereign individual with your own physical refuge (land, supposing that property rights remain) and maximize your chances of being able to afford biological immortality, you should invest. Probably in land, energy, semiconductors and BTC.

>>60902861 (OP)
lol the goys who think bryan johnson is "healthy" are beyond delusional

>>60905434
there would be no possessions. the monkey part of your brain that causes you to hoard things would be erased. you'd be lucky if you even retain sentience.
>>60905494
kek. you clearly haven't thought this through. either AGI is benevolent or we're dead. you are imagining a complete fantasy world where an advanced hyperintelligence would exist but somehow you'd still get to larp as a primitive feudalist.

>>60905515
>either AGI is benevolent or we're dead
And what's your point? That 1) if it's benevolent then a) property rights don't matter anymore and b) energy is no longer needed to move atoms and 2) when AI reaches what a majority would call AGI then c) it can be run for free d) provide infinite goods and e) distribute it to anybody at any time?

>>60905515
Also, realize that "AGI" doesn't mean the same thing as "advanced hyperintelligence", dummy. HURR DYSON SPHERES do you think that's what OP is talking about retard?

>>60905479
>At this rate...
rates change my low wit friend. at the rate of progress in space exploration to someone in the 50's and 60s we should be fully colonized the solar system by now.

generative AI is a local maximum. it brings us closer to AGI but AGI is still an unknowable distance away

>>60905661
I think AGI is interchangeable with hyperintelligence since it involves solving novel problems. Once an AGI can solve problems such as self-optimization then the singularity right around the corner. At that point humanity in its current form is redundant in every sense of the word.

>>60902861 (OP)
Paper tiger. Even chatgpt admitted it.

>>60902966
>My small business is implementing AI the best we can.
>Basically there are a few specific tasks where it can save 80% of the time of the task.
Agentic AI's passing around MCP calls aren't AGI.

>when people dont need to work anymore...
...they going to kill each other, pretty obvious. Dont leave the npc without waging, he needs it, it is part of his raison d'etre.
In the 90s there was a pyramid scheme in Albania and many people didnt need to work anymore. In consequence, they started to kill each other.
The golem cant live without violence, so patent 666 from Microsoft is there for the rescue.

Dude actually had a bit of a banger of a Xeet.

>>60902861 (OP)
i dont nigga

The West will collapse by 2033. There will be no AGI. China will stagnate without Western involvement and trade. Africa and India will die off without Western handouts, thank God.

>>60905434
>in that world, the value of land will be so high that it's like a joke
LOL you think its difficult to make land you dumb fucking idiot? in a world of material abundance moving dirt into water is NOTHING. some of the arabs have already done this. NA has a shit ton of land to develop anyway. the only places this would matter is central europe, or some other place where the country cannot expand in any direction and doesnt already have a big reserve of undeveloped land.