Thread 60906304

swiss silber Edition

>Why precious metals?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI [Embed] [Embed]
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A [Embed] [Embed]
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo [Embed] [Embed]

>Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitable
https://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos [Embed] [Embed]

>Bullion dealers
https://libertycoin.com/(US)
https://www.chards.co.uk/(EU/UK)
https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/(Ancient)
https://www.luciteria.com/(Other rare metals)
https://www.ma-shops.com/ (Numismatics)
https://www.goldeneaglecoin.com/ (US)
https://stoutgold.co/ (US)
https://www.aydincoins.com/ (US)
https://prospectorsgoldandgems.com/ (US)
more at:https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Numismatic search
https://en.numista.com/catalogue
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world

>News and graphs
https://numismag.com/en/home-en
https://silverseek.com
https://www.silverdoctors.com
https://www.mining.com
https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silver
https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com (US)
https://eu.compare.pm (EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle (DE/EU)

>Resources
https://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide
https://www.coinflation.com
http://coinapps.com
https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation
https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-minerals
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo [Embed] [Embed]
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY [Embed] [Embed]
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database

Previous Thread: >>60903009

>>60906304 (OP)
Thank you baker.
Here is a TD (Toronto Dominion) Bank kilo, looks like they commissioned Scottsdale Mint to do a custom stamped run. There is a serial number on the back. US Eagle for size perspective.

>>60906304 (OP)
>swiss silber
Hell yeah
>t. burger

Flip side for the anons who'd be curious about it, this 5 Franc was issued as war bond.

I got rich by buying silver

OK, no shitposting allowed, predictions time
Post your 100% accurate predictions for end of 2025, and then 2026, and then 2030.

>>60906322
That's definitely her best side.

Just tried to look up something on Kitco and the whole site is down again.

>>60906325
100% accurate? I got you babe :
EOY 2025
>3900
>52
EOY 2026
>4400
>58
2030
>17,988,575,477,102
>327,235,144,200

>>60906325
>Trump vs Powell reality show
>Trump wants lower rates to lock in cheap long term debt
>the scandal with the BLS was to allow the fed to begin cutting without losing all credibility
>the fed is about to start cutting while inflation is already rising
Prediction 1: long term rates will rise when the fed cuts
Prediction 2: the fed will return to quantitative easing or even resort to yield curve control
Prediction 3: INFLATION

Some trends:
>us govt deficit projected to hit six trillion dollars over the next twelve months, twice as high as 2020
>the percentage of global transactions done in dollars is rising, now above 50%
>central banks around the world are buying gold at their fastest pace ever
>central banks holding more gold than us debt
So how can the usage of dollars for transactions coincide with central banks hoarding gold? I think it's Gresham's Law at work. And I think Gresham's Law is also why our government is running up the deficit. Everyone, including our own government, knows that the dollar is on the way out, so they're trying to spend all the dollars they can to get what they can get before dollars are no longer accepted.
The price of gold in dollars will be irrelevant.

>>60906375
>they're trying to spend all the dollars they can to get what they can get before dollars are no longer accepted.
Agree 100%. Where do US dollars go when they get spent on gold/silver at the COMEX?

We know it's immediately inflationary for gold and silver, but lets say a trillion of Eurodollar money comes back to the USA and begins circulating. What will this do to the USA?

>>60906375
>>60906404
I will be buying bills by the wheel barrel-full, then, and also slurping up any metal currency that isn't PM's floating around - since people will not immediately realize their coin jars are metal it's prime slurping material.
I love failed currency so much, there's something so cool about a gigantic pile of useless bills.

>>60906442
And yeah, I think this is where war nickels come in, they call it useless garbage now but they'll allow me to do fractional shit even better than dime hoarders can.
A wheelbarrel full of fake currency might not be worth a dime, but it's worth a nickel.

>>60906404
>but lets say a trillion of Eurodollar money comes back to the USA and begins circulating. What will this do to the USA?
Not much beside pumping stocks and blackrock's portfolio, eurodollars will hardly circulate because most are held in corpo bonds and institutional private debt repayments denominated in USD. It would mostly come back to large wallets who can't do anything with their money beside buying Tbonds and shares.
What made inflation so bad after 2020 was that the gubment handed checks to everybody. But when it's QE money for example, we don't suffer *that* much from inflation, because the (((1%))) literally get 90% of it all. Same will occur with euro$. Ofc there is a breaking point eventually, but for now we see inflation mostly hit the stock market, BTC, collector assets, etc.. because that's where the richfags park their cash.
There now are 2 types of inflation : the digital and the "real world" one. People imagine the stock market is pumping like crazy, but it's just inflation on digitalized assets. Which is now totally deconnected from the real world inflation (the one you use to buy your groceries). That's how we end up with 500 P/E stonks, madclown shit, but that's becuz there is too much $ to park.

I predit the digital hyperinflation will come before the real one too. It will be the final warning.

>>60906325
2025: $42.50
2026: $52.88
2030: $178.02

2026 is the hardest to predict because there might be an economic collapse and that case everything takes for a little bit before it reajusts.

>>60906304 (OP)
Is it still worth stacking silver at these prices? I haven't stacked in nearly two years.
>Silver was $20

I might redo this one.

>>60906472
Yeah, I've heard of said collapse being in 2026 constantly, even years ago, but hardly anyone in the real world or on the news or anything seems to be addressing it.
It's being outright predicted in the open, but nobody seems to care.

>>60906325
EOY 2025:
>$3900
>$49
EOY 2026:
>$5000
>$64
EOY 2030:
>$12,000
>$179

>>60906477
Many are predicting 50, which would make it worth it. It's not gonna drop lower than 35 for any long period of time, so you don't risk much buying at 40. There's much higher upside buying right now than holding off and hoping it drops to 30 or something.

>>60906442
>I love failed currency so much, there's something so cool about a gigantic pile of useless bills.
If you hold them long enough, eventually they go up in value as collector's items.

>>60906477
The sentiment seems to be that we haven't hit the top yet. Unlike in 1980 or 2011, I don't really see a return of confidence in the US economy coming any time soon. If you ask me, $40 is probably around what the future price floor will be after we've hit our next peak. I think that we'll probably hit $60 at least before it drops down, but I don't think we're seeing anything less than $25 ever again

>>60906489
true, look at $100T Zimbabwe bills

>>60906489
Yeah, but you're talking about when I'm 100 years old or more - if life extension happens though (another black swan even that's entirely possible) it would be a neat retirement scheme, just buying currency that's considered old right now and holding it for 100 years.
Much more likely the grandkids retire off the 1,000 pounds of nickels I stick in the basement. 100 year old pennies can be worth a couple bucks, but there's so much currency out there already that I doubt any modern coins will ever be worth anything - at least for another 200 years.
And that paper will all have to be held in ideal conditions where bugs don't eat it and it doesn't rot, a hard ask for 100 years.

>>60906464
>but for now we see inflation mostly hit the stock market, BTC, collector assets, etc

>I predit the digital hyperinflation will come before the real one too. It will be the final warning.
Makes sense. The increasing wealth inequality will have the effect of increasing political instability. The top 1% have minimal awareness (if they even cared) about the real suffering of the bottom 90%.

The political class seems most disconnected from reality. All that is needed is a spark.

>>60906504
>MILLER: Usually nickels - or at least the past five or six years - they, Philadelphia and Denver - the mintages are usually around 700 million for each mint. So like you said in the beginning, around, like, over a billion minted. I'm not sure why, but for the new 2024 nickels, they minted, like, 30 million. And that's a gigantic difference from 700 million, and they're selling for a lot of money.
They make a billion nickels a year btw, but the 2024 ones only have 30 million, so in the future they'll be big money.

>>60906477
Really depends on only one factor : how fast do you think the USD will devalue?
We are reaching a point where you CAN'T stay in cash for any length of time, but every "normal" investment vehicles are in giga-bubble territory (especially everything digital), so it feels like by eliminitation... there is nothing left but PMs to invest in*.

*= I'd add collectibles to the list, especially richfag hobbies like sport cars, as long as you know what you do, you should do fine.

>>60906477
>Is it still worth stacking silver at these prices? I haven't stacked in nearly two years.
42 year cup and handle pattern. Classic technical analysis says the rise will equal the depth of the cup.

That puts silver well into 3 digits.

Anyone know of a reputable site that sells historic coins? I'm looking for some of the older gold dinars

>>60906498
>The sentiment seems to be that we haven't hit the top yet.
Retail hasn't even started buying yet, they are still net selling.

People tend to chase prices. Even Issac Newton succumbed to the temptation. Once the herd rushes in, THAT is when you know the end is nearing. When the public mania reaches a peak, that's the time to take some profits.

Speaking of bubbles, anyone care to offer a prediction when Nvidia & the Mag 7 pop?

Do we have any Alois Erlmeier's in here?

When SHTF people on 4chan think they gonna identify each other with the Ace of spades or 4 clubs card or whatever card that they hold. /pmg/ will be identifying each other by the merc dimes we hold for formerly well to do housewive blowjobs

>>60906504
>And that paper will all have to be held in ideal conditions where bugs don't eat it and it doesn't rot, a hard ask for 100 years.
If you get them cheap enough, 20 years and you're in the black. Ammo cans with some dessicant work great. If you can get pristine uncirculated, that would be ideal.

>>60906515
>how fast do you think the USD will devalue?
Currency dies exponentially.
>US M2 Money Supply YoY is at 4.82%
Current doubling time is 14.5 years. If they add several trillion either by revaluing gold, or by expanding the Fed balance sheet, even if a one time hit, the move armageddon clock much closer.

The US Dollar has lost 12% of its value so far this year. There is a point where institutions will not want to hold dollars long term. Certainly the Saudis don't want to sell oil for dollars that one year later cannot even buy back the oil they were paid for. It would have been better for the Saudis to have kept the oil.

>>60906541
Go ahead, laugh now. You will see.

These topics are going so fast now. The quickening is here.

>>60906515
>Really depends on only one factor : how fast do you think the USD will devalue?
Lost 12% of its purchasing power so far this year. Much more in terms of gold and silver.

25 oz silver bars

>>60906579
Yeah

Internet down in South Asia due to cut internet cables.

Where’s all the fud at?

If a 1oz silver coin is for sale on Amazon for like $20 that means it's fake right?

>>60906542
>If you get them cheap enough, 20 years
True, selling a handful of them for 5 dollars as a novelty. Not big money, but since they were so cheap it adds up.

>>60906601
>If a 1oz silver coin is for sale on Amazon for like $20 that means it's fake right?

>>60906541
>Blowjobs
No merc-y unless I make you preggy.

>>60906608
ty. what abou a 1oz silver Trump coin on Amazon that's going for spot price with lots of good reviews?

>>60906626
Fake
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I'm not sick anymore!

>>60906636
Alright!

>>60906631
let's say i bought this and i tested it with a magnet and measured the weight and it seems good? i tried a water weight test but i might be too dumb to do it because i got crazy values on real silver coins too. What do I do to test it?

>>60906531
How old are you talking?

Roughly a doubling in the reserves of PM's within the last 10 years, and a shrinking of FIAT by 30%. This is distancing. You don't go back from this, especially not since they're feeling happy seeing the gold they bought triple in that same time frame - yes, 10 years ago gold was 1,200.

>>60906626
I don't deliberately do collectables. I buy the cheapest silver by the tube from the LCS and sometimes get a surprise.

>>60906640
>What do I do to test it?
A magnetic slide is a good test for pure silver coins.
https://youtu.be/2XZsZum6aGU

>>60906661
There are plenty of non-premium collectables to get though, peace dollars and morgans sometimes. There is a stackable collectable market out there, but very few coins fit into it. They hold value a couple bucks above spot reliably, and what's like a dollar more if I'm buying them, whatever.

>>60906661
>>60906667
>>60906667
>>60906669
ty, this isthe one i got and i think im gonna get more
https://www.amazon.ca/Silver-Medal-President-Donald-Trump/dp/B07YZ6JCRV/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=212TZMCT9EI4L&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Y41xEnRc0Ck7FVfLpzzc306hMy8Ux9Y2V1NsfUYrcfUOXtRQj-tJH9RB9MrDuhF6mab-j2UDOIyZlCYGDJMTNEFkn-xrZfUMiV8nH0jpvmmIJEcnaiMbVsyeqKq-ydu6mt2tbT5eUlZdWDQ28g0h-VVR0kKf2weS5F0BfC4DO6OSw7GKl4lcQc62CGznFPkh_wKu109qjZT3qQA2pG-JBg.PiLSyWth50Qn--2Y9lyBPe4r8hcAVc3Jt_sluVcLA40&dib_tag=se&keywords=1oz+silver&qid=1757207374&sprefix=1oz+silver%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-4

>>60906669
>There are plenty of non-premium collectables to get though
I don't mean to imply there's anything wrong with collectables. My better half paid a very high premium to buy limited edition art coins with painted roses. She loves flowers. 6.5 ounces cost around $300USD back in 2021 when silver was under $25.

Buy what makes you feel good to look at. I bought some goldbacks that I love to look at even though they are a 100% premium over the gold content.

AZ - 4
Bos -1
Bottom of the the 5th
FUCK BOSTON

>>60906599
kek
bye bye rajnees
time for needful in the streets
>kill the fucking curry niggers!

>>60906667
a problem with the slide i think is copper slides the same as silver i think and i could be buying silver plated copper

>>60906692
>https://www.amazon.ca/Silver-Medal-President-Donald-Trump/dp/B07YZ6JCRV/
Looks like a good, fair price. Says 999, 1oz, 26 good reviews.

Store has a really low volume so you're probably dealing with a home business. Most of their other stuff is a little pricey, so they likely are stuck with the Trump coins and dumping them at cost.
https://www.amazon.ca/s?me=A3QSJ0BQR12NGF&marketplaceID=A2EUQ1WTGCTBG2

If you can get free or cheap shipping it's probably a legit silver Trumpcoin.

>>60906723
Thanks bro!

>>60906599
>>60906708
....
The spammer is gone

Wtf man. I can't post shit.

>>60906716
>a problem with the slide i think is copper slides the same as silver
Yes, copper is pretty close to silver with the magnet test. You can use the specific gravity test to confirm, copper is much less dense than silver
Copper = 8.96 g/cm3
Silver = 10.49 g/cm3
https://youtu.be/xw-2kqjtEdI

You need an accurate scale, some fishing line, some kind of adjustable stand and a suitable water container. There are charts if you don't want to do the math.

>>60906727
>The spammer is gone
It's his time to ride the bus and masturbate next to female passengers.

>>60906708
TID. TCND

>>60906750
you cum on bus too?
YOU CUM ON BUS TOO?

>>60906325
Gold will certainly hit $4000 in 2026, just 1 year after hitting $3,000 but then what? Are we actually going to $5k shortly after? Insane.

>>60906599
Yes, even jews need their sleep. Give it another hour or 2

I bought 100oz of silver at $18 and just sold it all on ebay. I decided to sell into the buying panic for once. Feels good.

>>60906647
I don't know much about the availability or cost on these, but the earlier the better. I want to start getting more into the collecting side of coins but I'm lacking on resources

>>60906763
No. I don't even shit in the street. My favorite food is bacon cheese burgers made with beef and I really love dogs.

>>60906781
Saturday is their day off, no wonder they outsource to jeets.

>>60906773
>Insane
Yeah, literally a currency failing.
The tripling from 1,200 to 3,600 in 10 years was insane, now we've hit over 1,000 dollars increase in one singular year (full-year), so the next 1,000 comes easier.
Gold is outperforming the stock market heavily, even without this year's 1,000 spike it would still be at par with the stock market. I actually think this is it, if the money is safer out of the market and even grows more in gold why buy stocks? And when people stop buying stocks there's no money floating around for businesses to take loans with, prices crash, pensions get wiped away.

>>60906829
So it seems. It's almost exponential collapse at this point.
$1,000 to $2,000 - 12 years
$2,000 to $3,000 - 5 years
$3,000 to $4,000 - 1 year???
$5000 - ???

>>60906325
At the rate we've been going, I see gold in the $3,800's and silver at $44. By the end of 2026, $5,000 gold and $50+ in silver. I honestly don't know for 2030.

>>60906829
>The tripling from 1,200 to 3,600 in 10 years was insane, now we've hit over 1,000 dollars increase in one singular year (full-year), so the next 1,000 comes easier.
You've just explained why they are slamming silver so hard to keep the momentum from taking it over resulting in a cascading loss of confidence in the USD.

The USA has invaded countries and killed millions of people to protect the US dollar hegemony. Why wouldn't they waste a few billion losses on silver shorts to buy them a few more years of power.
https://youtu.be/_av-VEwIMmI

>>60906541
I'm not a degen, but I do need to get some mercs. I always went for roosies because of the lower premiums but I hate FDR and I have like $30fv of him and maybe $5 in mercs

>>60906829
I'm just looking at similar moment from the 70s trying to find a similar pattern between 100 dollar intervals. From the point gold first hit $100 in 1972 it did 6x in the 5 years following until the government could convince everyone that "temporarily closing" the dollar convertibility window was not the collapse of the USD.

>>60906304 (OP)
>swiss silber Edition
>
Fuck the Swiss.
Well, except those who know about bern.

>>60906872
Well I think I found the best graph so far that was screenshot-able (found a better one but wasn't capturable because it was built into the web page)
Basically look at what gold does, compare to times of recession.
Actually happening BIG TIME, huge. There's basically no denying it. The spike in price happens before the recessions.

>>60906626
Don't buy PMs on Amazon

>>60906885
this picture is a picture of the bubble, by the way. That yellow candle that's bigger than any before it is including the stock market going up by 20% in a single year - so what will it look like when the stock market goes down? Likely double. It's way bigger than '08.

>>60906442
Not a big pile of useless bills but they're still fascinating. I have a couple more from Weimar and Zimbabwe, can't find them at the moment.

>>60906304 (OP)
How many ounces of gold and silver should an average person have?

I bought a bland 5 oz bar and had a silver smith do a custom engraving on the back as a gift. Just curious of the engraving ruins the value since the bar can just be melted down again.

>>60906900
>average person have
the average person has zero and has no understanding of the difference between money, currency, and fiat currency.

>>60906455
Same with pre 82 pennies and 40% Kennedy's. At least in terms of fractional for silver.

>>60906900
Literally as many as you can afford right now.
For an adult male bare minimum has to be 500 ounces silver, no comment on gold as you're already priced out probably.

>>60906910
>500 ounces silver, no comment on gold as you're already priced out probably.
if he can afford to buy 500 ounces of silver he can obviously by 5 ounces of gold. The question is which is the best investment considering the current prices and price disparity. But at least get some combination, mostly gold.

>>60906868
>I'm not a degen, but I do need to get some mercs.
You'd be helping widows and orphans.

>>60906541
Nah, we'll be identifying each other by these.

>>60906562
Is there an updated version of this? Just by quick math in my head, the $20 bill can only buy about half of what's listed.

>>60906599
Checked. It's so comfy in here without Mr. Condom collector.

>>60906900
>How many ounces of gold and silver should an average person have?
Depends on the person. If you are young, fit and industrious, have useful skills, honest. Chances are you don't need any gold or silver.

If you're older, specialized in a not so useful field, you should probably have a few thousand ounces saved up as you may not be employable in recessionary times.

How many oz of silver would a young skilled doctor need? None. People will gladly pay him if he is useful.

Most of us fall somewhere in between.

>>60906655
Checked.
Any personal predictions how it's gonna look in another 10?
I really, really wish I got into PM's then. $1,200 gold seems like a fever dream now.

>>60906488
>>60906498
>>60906515
I still very much appreciate you anons. I know its been awhile but I am still alive an well just haven't been stacking in awhile. It's still good and nice to come visit and check on things honestly.
Maybe soon I'll be back to posting images like this again.

>>60906915
Forgot pic.

>>60906935
Five dollar gold liberties are pure sex!

>>60906913
>Some combination, mostly gold
This but with silver, the plebs can buy silver and it's not stockpiled so massively by governments, and is mined at a huge deficit already.
Gold has gone way up, 10 years ago I might agree and say gold. Silver hasn't moved the same.
Given the choice between 500 ounces of silver or roughly 5 ounces of gold silver is the obvious choice.
>>60906931
Sort of an accurate answer, but you'll be amazed at how many 80 year olds start climbing on ladders and doing manual labor when their stocks disappear. A lack of jobs will just become the norm in certain areas, imagine all the people in retirement right now living off their stocks no longer in retirement out of necessity - competing with everyone for McJobs and ditch digging.

>>60906935
>Predictions of how it will look in another 10
Literally the great depression.

>>60906943
>This but with silver,
valid points. For me I am concerned with the lack of price appreciation in silver over the years. Gold has done well. G/S ration is what 87 now? Since gold is offered in such small portions even poors can buy some if a panic starts. Not sure if the panic would flow into silver bullion though, people seem to brainwashed.

10 years and not a single one of you have you really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like

>>60906964
Gold isn't really offered in small portions though, like you can find some little 1/10th ouncers or pesos out there but their premiums are always massive and they still run you a couple hundred dollars - silver is basically divisible among the plebs in a million ways, from 90% to 40% to even 35% junk everywhere, and a pleb can still afford one full ounce of it - assuming a 10x in value a pleb could not afford a 400 dollar purchase of a full ounce, but could still afford a dime or nickel.

Really the mass drive and adoption is what I think has the most power to skyrocket value of it, and I didn't see anyone affording gold at 1,200. I don't see them affording it when it hits 10,000 either even if they're cashing out their retirement accounts. In many ways being worth less is actually a strong suit for a currency. The 20 is the most important bill in the US economy. Imagine the PM equivalent, if you want to pay your worker what do you pay them in? Certainly not in gold, unless you're paying them in one single payment yearly.

>>60906636
Good good:)

>>60906969
are you having a stroke?

>>60906913
If you have $20,000 in silver that will be GOD TIER. 250 ounces is well more than enough IF it’s the biggest transfer of wealth in history coming down the pike like some think.

There’s probably just enough people out there with 50 ounces of silver who aren’t active stackers. Maybe in 1997 they decided to get some for whatever reason. Or their family left them some before dying or whatever. What % is this? Maybe 10%?

My gut tells me there needs to be a baseline of 20-50 oz of enough people who have that that can make do for 1-2 years with that much silver transferring over to the new system for the new system to more or less work.

I think any poorfag who has 150 ounces of silver and trying to move up the rankings should be going into gold at that point in case silver gets left behind.

>>60906939
Nice to meet you fren your pictures are great:)

>>60906975
>Really the mass drive and adoption is what I think has the most power to skyrocket value of it

Do you know how mind fucked your average American is? I would say 70% of the population HATES gold. For what reason I have no fucking clue. The whole “muuuh barbaric relic.” It’s honestly fascinating to see. It’s like kryptonite to them whereas 40 years ago no American would have had an anti-gold sentiment like many do now.

Like I’m sure there’s probably 10% of Americans you could walk up to and literally say I want to give you this ounce of gold and they wouldn’t take it.

I mean maybe there will be mass adoption after a collapse when they are forced to be about it, but beforehand? No way.

>>60906914
I'd rather recruit them onto my post-collapse 2000 acre compound and force them to be laborers in exchange for tenement housing and basic sustenance level wages. Maybe the daughter can be a concubine if she's attractive enough.

>>60907011
>70% of the population HATES gold
Haves vs have-nots.
I've gifted family members silver and they're always extremely excited about it. I have heard turbonormies shitting on it, but it all changes when you show them a coin.
And of course, they'll cling on to something if their dollar stops buying mcdonalds and gas. Foreigners very quickly cling onto precious metals when things go bad with their local currencies. I don't actually think it's that much different with americans, just that they've seen the assets crab for years so they're wary. It all changes instantly when they hear said assets have outperformed crypto and the stock market and are now at 10k.

>>60906939
anytime. If it makes you feel better, I'm here pretty on and off as well though I usually keep an eye on the silver/gold situation even if I'm not here

>>60907011
>Do you know how mind fucked your average American

Muh collapse,,,,,,lmao

>>60907001
Muh gsr muh people need silver.......lmao yalll read too many incrl blogs,,,,,ngmi
>>60907012
White incel vibes

>>60907027
>muh white incel vibes
You talk like a gay fat black liberal woman

>>60906964
>For me I am concerned with the lack of price appreciation in silver over the years. Gold has done well.
They worked VERY HARD to keep the price of silver down over the years, right up to currentyear.

https://youtu.be/_av-VEwIMmI

https://youtu.be/hkOx-QuYeAo

Anyone watching the tape has seen the COMEX slam downs on silver. They are losing control primarily because China is buying a lot of physical, draining metal from the western exchanges.

The tiny percentage of stackers is insignificant, but if the mass NPCs decide they want a few ounces, it's game over.

>>60906964
>Since gold is offered in such small portions even poors can buy some if a panic starts.
Canadian Prices:
1 gram = $180 size of one mm thick slice of pencil eraser
1/10 oz = $540 smaller than a dime
1/4 oz = $1340 smaller than a nickel
>t.bought 1/4 oz last week
Picrel

>>60906926
>>60906935
>This certifies that there is on deposit in the Treasury of the United States of America one Dollar in Silver payable to the bearer on demand
I always find it a bit funny reading that because the fact that they halted redemption of these notes proves that the statement was a lie.
And in spite of this, there are still people who have yet to realize that if you don't hold it, you don't own it.

>>60907045
>I always find it a bit funny reading that because the fact that they halted redemption of these notes proves that the statement was a lie.
Certificates are debt obligations which entails counterparty risk.

Physical possession of gold and silver has no counterparty risk.

>>60907043
Very nice

>>60907043
'miring your goldbacks in the last couple threads

>>60907086
Cuck behavior, they are tacky AI art, 300% premiums sold by people you claim to hate will never be used as money,,,,,lmao you incels goon to them because coin merchants claim fiat is bad

>>60907054
Physical possession of paper $ and mcchickens has no counterparty risk.

>>60907028
>I'd rather recruit them onto my post-collapse 2000 acre compound and force them to be laborers in exchange for tenement housing and basic sustenance level wages. Maybe the daughter can be a concubine if she's attractive enough.

You sound like a white incel loser who fell for the obvious silver scam because asking a girl out is scary and buying a rock and giving up on life is easier than working hard to buy the land you dream about

>>60906599 I guess the internet is back on in India

>>60907120
>>60907123
>>60907135

>>60907161
Lmao, the low iq racist fell for the obvious silver scam

>>60906940
When are the frens mark coming out. Is mintanon still working on them?

niggers

>>60907213
>Is mintanon still working on them?
I never heard he was trying to do that.
His "Cheesed to Meet You" is next.

>>60907213
todd said he was going to do it a while back. not sure if he is still thinking about it

>>60907240
based

https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?item=236262129242&rt=nc&_ssn=silbertresor-falleredelmetalle

might be interesting to just see where the auctions end up

>>60906931
>Just noticed the "Knight" is misspelled.

>>60907300
So is "Soldier"
Also, here's the version from November, 2023.

>>60907335
>>60907300
All those memes yall love that convinced you to buy silver are made by FED diversity hires

>>60907335
I personally feel like this one is very low effort. We've had much better charts in the past

>>60907344
I think this one is considered the de facto standard.

>>60907340
And your internet just got shut off by the Houthis.

>>60907362
>Houthis
Heroes

>>60907362
It did?

>>60907011
Why would you say that the average American hates gold? Aside from Dave Ramsey and Warren buffet being anti gold, the Generations above zoomers absolutely like gold. Costco is selling 250 million worth of gold a month. That doesn’t even count the silver and gold being bought online other places. Since the 1980s nigger rappers have been glorifying gold chains. I see tons of broccoli head zoomers with gold necklaces on. Most zoomers are too fucking retarded to want gold coinage. They would rather own fractional shares of some shit coin with no intrinsic value. But at the end of the day the goycattle will invest in what is popular at the time. Right now it’s crypto and nvidia

>>60907086
60907120

looks like one jeets internet cable wasn't cut

This could be interesting...

>>60907433
>Why would you say that the average American hates gold?
They don't. They've just lived their entire life having the most formerly well to do and desirable currency in the world in their own pocket.

Go to any third world or emerging country and offer them gold and watch their eyes light up. They have lived experience of being tormented with unstable/uncertain fiat that routinely rugpulled their savings.

In places like Thailand there are street gold dealers where you can buy and sell by the gram. Americans for the first time in their lives will experience getting rugpulled by their fiat and will develop a newfound respect for gold and silver.

People in this thread (except IQdelet) will feel like the guys who bought BTC in 2014.

>>60907455
I love Orania. I wish we had one of our own. Perhaps we will end up making one.

>>60907366
>>60907362
>Houthis
The only Arabs currently doing the needful in more than one way.

>Gold and Silver was heavily prefered in the Western US over paper and base metals
>All but one of the people arrested for violating Executive Order 6102 lived in California
>Pennies and Nickels were exclusively minted in Philadelphia before the 1900s because there was no demand for them in the West
>Silver Dollars were strongly preferred in Western States and regularly circulated there up until the 60s, while Eastern States used banknotes
>The 1964 Peace Dollars were minted only in Denver and intended for use in Western States like Montana (before they were all melted down)
>The only pushback the coinage act of 1964 received was from Congressmen representing Western Silver producing states
>40% halves were only minted in Denver and San Francisco from 1968-1970, showing that the West's prefernce for Silver didn't die immediately after the debasement
>This preference for real money also extended into Western Canada
Interesting how a huge chunk of the country so strongly prefered Hard Money up until relatively recently and there is almost no cultural memory of that nowadays.

I thought it was going to take several more years for this to play out but this recent price spike has me wondering if its really happening. Or beginning to anyway.

>>60907475
>Interesting how a huge chunk of the country so strongly prefered Hard Money up until relatively recently and there is almost no cultural memory of that nowadays.
Who was the last generation year born in 1964? Who was born growing up with silver, and eagerly gave it away for cheap cruises and cheap labor to mow their lawns? Which generation had it better than both their parents and their children, and still largely doesn't care? Which generation had the largest ever voting demographic who essentially controlled the entire political discourse for the last 50 years? Which generation was cool with fucking over their own children and grandchildren just to virtue signal?

To ask the questions is to know the answer.

>>60907483
Of course it’s actually happening. gold is up 100% since spring of 2023. Banks are buying in record quantities even at these “high” prices. In 5 years people will look back and say that any gold you could buy at under $4000 an ounce was stupidly cheap…Silver is lagging bigly. So it’s more speculative.

>>60907505
>Of course it’s actually happening. gold is up 100% since spring of 2023.
For a lot of world changing events, we can't precisely name the starting point, except in retrospect.

Who at the time expected that the death of Archduke Ferdinand would trigger the deaths of millions and reshape borders around the world?

Who expected that the death of Kennedy would lead to taking the US off the gold standard in 1971?

Who expected that Hitler invading Poland would ultimately result in Israel capturing and coming to completely dominate the American government?

Who expected that the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 would turn America from a mostly free country with some regulation, to a police state with some dwindling vestigal freedoms?

>>60907433
The only good advice I ever got from Ramsay was don't get in debt and if you are in debt get it taken care of asap with a simple plan. Aside from that he's just a rich fag who thinks everyone can be rich like him and can afford a bunch of property.

>>60907528
The starting point was 2008 crisis. The money printer was turned on and never got turned off. M2 money supply has just increased exponentially. The second catalyst was Covid. Money printer accelerated and if they turn it off now everything collapses. The bubble pops. So they will keep printing and keep the ponzi going. Gold is reacting accordingly. Although it’s still cheap. My guess it’s being suppressed until central banks are done buying

>>60907542
>>60907542
Ramsey built a literal empire by telling complete fucking retards to pay off debt, buy mutual funds, eat beans and rice. He’s probably fucked millions of his listeners over by telling them not to buy a house when they were affordable, or telling people to pay off their low interest debt instead of investing in something that would have given them 300% returns. Ramsey said repeatedly to never buy bitcoin or gold. They both up 300% since

>>60907433
>Costco
Retail arbitrage. They're buying with their Costco card to get 5% back and selling it immediately

>>60907555
Still, his only good advice is don't get into dumb debt and if you are in debt take care of it. That's all I've ever taken away from his ramblings.

If gold is revalued to 100k how many people will start panning for gold?

>>60907556
Lmao, pmg baggies have all these secrets for getting rich why don't you do it dummy?

>>60907555
And yall have been telling people not to buy bitcoin since it was $100 how many lives including your own have you ruined?

>>60907505

The value of the actual money in their pocket was far higher. The cost of a degree at Harvard costs roughly the same today as it did in the 60s when priced in gold. What changed is economies of scale importing cheap goods kept everyday stuff affordable as the currency was debased. Those efficiency savings and cheap foreign goods are ending and the great reveal of workers wages being driven down 80% and the wealth being transferred upwards with financial games to the few is here. But people are still trapped into thinking things are getting unaffordable. They are not! Your wages have been plummeting being paid in FIAT that’s rigged for the few. Because the few have first access to the money tap at the lowest rates because it’s credit/debt not fucking money. Gold and silver are money and will reassert themselves as this game of speculators and stock jobers collapses.

But then they few will scoop up even more assets in the depression that’s coming.

50% of savings in bank to gold: insanity or safe?
Max 30% otherwise, just want to escape the wage life a little faster

>>60907608

Even worse now. Just 18.5oz of gold for national salary in US. The value of FIAT is collapsing in real time. You can see it.

>>60907609
>buy at the top works everytime

Like this, there where more Fiat money artifictioal crisisses in EU/EURO zone, also remember the "DOT com bubble" early 2000s, and some more I forget, in 2006 also they printed because of something. More see my pic related. Now ECB try to reduce the EUR money amount since 2022 (was near 9 Billiards), did it half with the "Covid-19" money mountain now (6,1 Billiards) but most likely will not made it to pre Corona 4,1 Billiards. Next pop up crisis will double the tEURo money ammount, then 12+ Billions (?), at least it might be more then the GDP of EU is, this wayr explode it, who knows. Or if they reduce it further it will implode because run ut of money. So they creep on a razor blade, will fall on the on or the other side by next turbulences. Nice downfall! Schönen Untergang! Can you imagine the new Europeans, non genetic Europeans (non Europeans), freak out on the streets/take over? (Check London demo on 2025,09.06 for example). Weimar will be nothing against it.

>>60907627

M2 the same. Deploying all that credit to the EU economy and we all know we are still stagnating and living standards beginning to obviously decline, even to normies.


It means three things.
1. None of it is capital that’s being productively allocated.
2. It must therefore be fueling bubbles and/or slush funds for the select few.
3. It’s guaranteed to burst given the obvious decline in the real economy.

>>60907543
>The starting point was 2008 crisis.
I can make the argument that a starting point was "Black Monday" in 1987 when the market crashed and Alan Greenspan not only secretly did QE, but began the process of lowering interest rates to stop the crash. George HW Bush needed to be elected in 1988, and a recession in 1987 would have stopped that.

Subsequently, every correction in the market resulted in the Fed lowering interest rates, which eventually led to the subprime mortgage bubble.

If there was hard money (gold/silver) and no Federal Reserve, interest rates would be solely set by the market and there would be periodic mild recessions as a way of correcting malinvestment. Much like the cycles of the seasons.

If you haven't seen the movie "The Big Short" I recommend to everyone. It gives a good overview, and despite the fact the movie whitewashes the Jews, it is an overall good movie on the topic of the GFC.

>>60907556
>Retail arbitrage. They're buying with their Costco card to get 5% back and selling it immediately
Some maybe, but it's a lot of Jeets here that are buying gold.

>>60907582
>If gold is revalued to 100k how many people will start panning for gold?
Lots. If Spics and Jeets do it, expect river devastation and laws banning it.

Here in Canada we have Jeets dumping literal truckoads of trash into the ditches of our rural roads. Something that's never happened on a large scale before. Jeets literally have zero respect for the environment.

>>60907635

I think the charts speak for themselves. Here’s the USD priced in gold since 1900. Something I take away from this chart is they couldn’t finance their wars without this monopoly on money. Empire relies on extraction of resources but eventually turns inwards and extracts the wealth of its own citizens.

Look at the amount stolen quite frankly from US citizens through this mechanism. It didn’t just disappear.

You only need 1400 ounces of gold to make it, keep waging!

>>60907608
>The cost of a degree at Harvard costs roughly the same today as it did in the 60s when priced in gold.
Wages haven't kept up. We have to keep updating this image because silver is going up. 5 quarters is nearly one oz of silver. Melt value of one quarter today is $7.43.

Someday one 1964 quarter will be worth $10USD. Highschool kids were paid FIVE of them per hour.

>>60907649

Now let’s take a look at the late modern era. It’s clear after a brief rest post 2008 crisis the fall has resumed and is in fact accelerating again. We are at a point where workers wages have been suppressed so much there’s not much time left before the consumer/worker all start entering debt traps as the price of basics can go any lower with automation and economies of scale. So the crisis is here and cannot be avoided.

Anyone thinking shitcoins are gonna save us is utterly mad at this point.

>>60907654

You have to flip it! Stop pricing it all it paper. That’s an iou that’s not being honored. The who fucking point of the FIAT system is to ensure wages DONT keep up. That’s the design. Because it fools anyone who can’t see past thinking paper is money. And their pocket is slowly dipped. But the papper says 100 so it’s still 100. It’s a scam and it’s designed this way. So people scream for wage hikes. And never understand the solution is Sound Money. Stop pricing in dollars. Dollars are credit. Not money.

>>60907614
>Even worse now. Just 18.5oz of gold for national salary in US
Picrel, wages telegraph operators.

Henry Ford was paying his employees $5.00 per day in 1914 and gold was $20.67 per oz and there was no income tax at that wage.

Less than 5 days work to earn an oz of gold.

>>60907664
>You have to flip it! Stop pricing it all it paper.
I'm pricing it in silver and converting to current silver value.

Not my cat, but I also have a golden tooth.

>>60907657
>Anyone thinking shitcoins are gonna save us is utterly mad at this point.
Some people contend that shitcoins were a psyop to keep people AWAY from hard money.

Lest anyone forget, the W. Bush administration PROSECUTED AND CONVICTED a man for starting a company that was issuing gold, silver and platinum based currency that was worth orders of magnitude more than Federal Reserve Notes. The charge? wait for it....
Counterfeiting.
>Mint informed Liberty Dollar users that federal prosecutors had determined that the circulation of the medallions as "legal tender" is a federal crime. It was claimed that people were told or led to believe that they were US currency, but proponents of the Liberty Dollar were cautioned against making such a claim.

>The Liberty Dollar offices were raided by agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the U.S. Secret Service (USSS) on November 14, 2007. Bernard von NotHaus, the owner of Liberty Services, sent an email to customers and supporters saying that the agents took all the gold, silver, and platinum,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_dollar_(private_currency)

>>60907654
>not true the minimum wage was in dollar, not quarter dollar coins, the delivery method was not specified.

>>60907627
>Can you imagine the new Europeans, non genetic Europeans (non Europeans), freak out on the streets/take over?
They will burn your cities down if the people don't stop them. But first you must hang the traitors.

>>60907677
>Waaaaah the government won't let us counterfeit,,,,,,,buys shit rocks with a government logo at a 40% premium

>>60907657
>Anyone thinking shitrocks are gonna save us is utterly mad at this point.

>>60907649
>Something I take away from this chart is they couldn’t finance their wars without this monopoly on money.
100% We've known who finances and profits from wars for a very long time.

>>60907667

And you’ll see some brain dead here saying. But those guys were poor! They didn’t have the shit we have. Look at this chart. The FAI food index priced in gold. It only goes back to the 60s. If it went back 100 years you would see food was very expensive because the revolution in automation technologies and economies of scale hadn’t kicked in yet. But you can see these things and logistics improvements have massively driven down food prices. So that telegraph operator. If his wealth had not been pickpocketed by FIAT would have seen food absolutely plummet in his life verses his wages and savings. And been able to have enough to pass on huge wealth to his kids with an ordinary job. If he was smart he tried to get in on the bankers bubbles (dangerous not an insider) with his excess or saved in gold (dangerous too because of confiscations).

All that wealth for ordinary work and savings was stolen by a rigged game designed malevolently to steal from the people. It’s coin clipping but far more psychologically harder for the masses to identify or understand. But when you see it. It’s just obvious. THIS is the mechanism which created the wealth gap. Crushed freedom. Enslaves the people to monied powerful elites.

And it’s as old as time. The cure to all this injustice, thieving, wars is take away their monopoly on money. Take away the FIAT tap. Establish sound money.

>>60907678
Wages were payable in currency that was freely convertable to silver quarters in 1964.

Q.E.D.

>>60907677

Counterfeiting. The fucking irony. That’s exactly the crime they commit against the people. You build a bank with Roman columns. Call it a national bank to intimidate people. Offer them unsupervised monopoly on the most critical thing to living and being free. Now it’s the same crime made nice and legal. Burn in hell you bastards.

>>60907678

How was it counterfeit? If they have more value. You don’t even understand what the word means! Dope.

>>60907692
>If it went back 100 years you would see food was very expensive because the revolution in automation technologies and economies of scale hadn’t kicked in yet.
Here's a graph of Campbell's condensed tomato soup price going back to 1895.

1. Yes food was more expensive.
2. There was NO inflation.
3. Real wages were increasing so the standard of living was getting better EVERY year.

Then the US went off the gold standard because of LBJ. Nixon was only a bagholder.

>>60907701
>How was it counterfeit?
It wasn't All the money was backed by gold, silver or platinum, didn't look ANYTHING like Federal Reserve Notes, and a Liberty $20 bill was worth $800USD.

Liberty dollars were making the Federal Reserve Notes look bad. Thankfully Goldbacks have legal protection as State issued voluntary legal tender, and the US Constitution is very clear that the States may issue money, ONLY if it is gold or silver, and Goldbacks are gold specie.
>Article 1, Section 10 of the U.S Constitution, stating that “No State shall make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts.

>>60906455
Is it twue that the reason war nickels exist is because in '43 and '44 the Manhattan project was sucking up so much nickel they had to mix in silver?

>>60907703

How is it so hard to get all these Gen whatever tards to see it. Get them off these stupid controlled gripe groups used to divide like the left right bullshit. It’s the MONEY! It’s always just been the money.

The solution can’t be asking for more. They have the power to just debase the 5% you asked for and got by printing more. It’s a completely rigged game. That makes you THINK you have won. It’s so fucking insidious. It’s exactly how con games and ponzi artists operate. They prey on the people because they understand the supreme power that comes with controlling the money. The narrative of what it is.

>>60907709

That states rights backstop may save you yet. Europe is absolutely fucked. And no 2nd amendment here either.

>>60907699
>That’s exactly the crime they commit against the people.
Central Bank fiat issuance is the 20th century version of coin clipping.

>>60907715
>How is it so hard to get all these Gen whatever tards to see it.
They will only see the light once they feel the heat. You are one of the people who can make it without having to needlessly suffer if you have been stacking and prepping.

Many of the Boomers will not survive. Many GenX will not survive. Much of the diversity will be purged.

Poor societies can't expend resources to babysit retarded criminal niggers, (of any race) so they kill them, just like they do in Africa.

>>60907717
>Europe is absolutely fucked. And no 2nd amendment here either.
So is Canada. Thankfully, I'm in Alberta. We'll be joining the US when once things get bad enough that even the NPCs realize Canada is doomed.

>>60907726

When you consider the amount of money stolen and the situations these people continually propel people and nations into. The cruelty they are responsible for from afar without retribution. It tries my faith.

>>60907709
No, he was actively TRYING to dissuade the usage of US dollars and circulate his own instead. Even under constitutional think, what he did was attack the foundation of the state. Of course they used him to strengthen precedent case work.

>>60907738
>No, he was actively TRYING to dissuade the usage of US dollars and circulate his own instead.
I'm already guilty of the first half of that.

How soon before they come after me?

>>60907738

That is not counterfeiting. Mis-charging like that is a hallmark of political prosecution and general innocence of the individual. Your unquestioning trust of government is unwise.

>>60907741

Isn’t this reminiscent of Trump making angry noises at countries who are selling US debt (for obvious reasons they are losing money on it!). When a slave rebukes the master. It’s always met with the whip.

>>60906811
I was making a joke imitating indians
I should have used greentext

>>60907738

I’m interested. Was FIAT enshrined at the foundation of the US state.

> Article I, Section 10, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution explicitly prohibits states from making anything but gold and silver coin a legal tender in the payment of debts. This clause was designed to prevent states from issuing paper money or promissory notes (bills of credit) and to ensure a fixed, uniform standard of value across the United States, thereby protecting private contracts and maintaining economic stability.

You don’t even know your own history.

>>60907741
Are you circulating currency and publicly extolling the fact the YOU will exchange legal tender, for the right to circulate a currency competitor or replacement.

Shitting on the dollar, is not the same as telling people they can use your $10 token as a replacement, for currency.

He’s not backed by the state, therefore he cannot back a currency.

If you think of it, the liberty dollar is pegged to the US dollar. So he is actively trying to usurp control over the currency..

It’s pretty clearly been illegal and why England expelled and executed cultures for coin clipping. And all other nations have their own stories of currency scammers

Some may be interested. Tether is selling Bitcoin to buy gold Bullion. Now past 9 Billion. Also investing into miners and gold royalty companies. The links to whitehouse are interesting. There may be major stake in tether coming from US Gov. normally don’t recommend crypto but this has backing and insider money moving for it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tether-el-salvador-deepening-ties-142211843.html

> Tether (USDT), the largest stablecoin by market cap, has ties to the Trump administration through key figures and policies. Howard Lutnick, CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald, which holds much of Tether’s U.S. Treasury reserves, is the Secretary of Commerce. His role has sparked concerns about conflicts of interest in crypto policy. Bo Hines, former executive director of the White House Crypto Council, advised on crypto legislation like the GENIUS Act before joining Tether as a strategic advisor in August 2025 to lead U.S. policy efforts. This strengthens Tether’s influence as it pursues U.S.-based stablecoin issuance under new regulations. Administration policies, including a national crypto reserve and reports from the President’s Working Group on Digital Assets, support stablecoin issuers like Tether, though no direct financial ties to the White House are reported beyond these connections. Some officials hold crypto assets, but Tether-specific holdings are not detailed.

>>60907746
He was charged for a massive number of crimes. Most of which were true.

Counterfeiting is just a term used to shape the investigatory powers by the secret service. It’s actually a favour.. they don’t really have a lesser charge.. this dude played a very serious big boy game.

Should’ve just stuck trying to con churches into buying weed instead of trying to overthrow the government. Should’ve done what Ithica hours did.

>>60907750
That’s not how debts work.
People sold bonds because yields aren’t great, and given market conditions, you’d be better off investing elsewhere and buying US bonds later when there’s more incentive.

The us is happy to redeem the bonds, as long as it can get away with printing the debt away.
Sure, take the useless usd and redeem the bonds.. it means it’s circulating. It means people are demanding usd.. even if they don’t want it, they’ll be stuck holding and trading with it.
Which, brings us full circle on circulation of currency. The US only screams if money stops moving.

>>60907817

Issuing a credit note (which is all the dollar is) and promising or backing it with real money is done every day. Not illegal. It’s called lending money dope.

As for shitting on the dollar. It’s not us doing that. And it’s a job 98% done anyway.

People are free to transact in notes that they have better confidence that they retain value against the than the dollar. I buy gold rather than dollars. Is that undermining the dollar? What’s the difference between that and a note that’s backed by the same gold? None. You’re arguing the state can now coerce me to guy bad debt!! That’s slavery.

You are a serious boot licker.

>>60907823

And Jan 6th was an insurrection. Beat it turd.

>>60907833

Don’t trade. You’re gonna get your pockets emptied. Stuck holding USD? How’s that. Will they send round the heaviest to everyone globally who just dumps it for gold?

You are retarded mate. If the USD became that illiquid. It’s would super accelerate its collapse.

>>60907837
No, January 6th had the autocannons on the hill well in advance of peaceful protestors full of FBI smeg. They were hoping for violence so we could have some more media like Kent state.

But it was peaceful, for the ‘most armed race and gun violent peoples’ in the world.

This ain’t that. To conflate is to grossly distort and oversimplify

If people are selling the US bonds by definition they are selling the dollar! They may take dollars for a half day for the bond but those dollars get dumped for something else fast. And they all find their way home eventually because that’s the place where they ultimately can only be redeemed. It always comes home. Now SHUT THE FUCK UP you clueless boot licking moron. You have no idea how any of this works and likely zero money involved.

>>60907837
>Jan 6th was an insurrection
Those BLM riots were an insurrection. Jan 6 was a prank in comparison.

>>60906784
Enjoy those dollars while they last. You just got off the last bus to Coolsville.

>>60907848
If they trade and hold US dollars and bonds, they aren’t holding euros or a brics currency. This isn’t complex. You just havnt read the material. That’s fine, but you dont get to be emotional at me, and expect me to take you seriously, about a topic you only know headlines on. Get a grip man

>>60907277
hardline marxist sheinkike keeping the people’s money out of the people’s hands and probably enriching her high level dudes with a little gift of rare 2025 coins to sell on the side lol rope when

>>60907011
I have never seen any evidence that anyone hates gold.

>>60906325
‘25 $50~100
‘26 $150~350
‘30 $999+

>>60907866

Okay. Let’s see if you can grasp this. The yield curve is widening yes? The spreads. This means people are selling us bonds especially long term yes? And we know now that the world holds more gold than treasuries for the first time since bretton woods.

So when the decision is made to sell a bond by these institutions. They don’t just fucking sit there and say what do we do with these dollars now. They already knew what they wanted their capital to go to next beforehand. And the transaction from selling to purchasing the preferred instrument happens all at once. They probably didn’t even hold the dollars.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/04/investors-dump-bonds-gold-record-high.html

Now. Unless you’re completely retarded you can see that it’s all western bonds that are doing this. So let me ask you. Given the non western world is selling for gold. Where is most of that gold coming from? And where are the dollars used to purchase them heading back to? Which country? The dollar will be circulating alright. In huge numbers at home. And every western nations are starting to diversify. Eventually there must be a revaluation of gold at home (or a devaluation of the dollar same thing). Or gold will accelerate out of the US. Or gold controls which will have the same effect sending gold to the moon priced in dollars. And euros. They all have the same sickness.

Get it? Doubt it.

>>60906477
>Is it still worth stacking silver at these prices?

Yes.

>>60907892

I meant the non western world is BUYING gold.

>>60907892
So your saying gold will be revalued to $20 and then confiscated?

Lmao, yall nuts


>>60907893
It was never worth stacking look how broke and miserable these baggies >>60907892
are

>>60907876
That’s a good point.
If it was associated with newthink and progressive Marxism, we could link it to colonialism, cause a knee jerk from 50% of the US. Causing some cheapies for holders.


The only reason I can think, is someone who held a lot assuming it’s worth x. Only to find that it’s either tampered, or they don’t actually hold the rights uncontested.

Like if you had a ton of gold and fuck all cash. But then the gold/silver is made illegal to sell or trade.. you’d have to make a market discounted to face value.
A dude would be salty, probably wouldn’t hate gold though.. just the people involved with it all and obviously the state. Gold could literally fuck your wife and people would still like it.

>>60907011
>Like I’m sure there’s probably 10% of Americans you could walk up to and literally say I want to give you this ounce of gold and they wouldn’t take it.

mark dice did that on yt years ago, random people rather took the snickers bar instead of gold coin

>>60907897

If your dollars are flooding home and your gold is flooding out. How the hell would pricing it at $20 help? You have to value it UPWARDS to make the world start selling it back and stop the outflow. As for confiscation. Wouldn’t that again send it to the moon and beggar your own citizens?

Look at it like this. If they made gold 20 dollars. Your vaults would be emptied in a week. Balance sheet shows no assets and 40 trillion debt. Game over.

You can only ever devalue your currency. Only real economic growth can revalue it.

>>60907908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgUxF7gvYeE

lol i forgot, 1/10 oz what a cheapo

>>60907909

Add to the maelstrom. What would happen if they did revalue gold (which means devalue dollars). Already millions of Americans Europeans are up to their necks in debt. Loving standards are falling. Inflation rising. Housing unaffordable. A big devaluation would collapse what’s left of affordability in the housing and construction market. Prices would crash. The value of these assets would crash on the books of insurance and pensions firms. Causing mass selling to cover their obligations. Prices would skyrocket overnight. Panic and more printing in response like never before. Which accelerates the bond and dollar selling. There’s no room left to manoeuvre. No more pressure can be put on workers wages to absorb the cost. Everyone knows it.

But you probably think the government will bail you out. Am I right? Kek.

>>60907908
Don't confuse entertainment with factual evidence.

>>60907926

>Joe “dollar a day” Bloggs doesn’t understand what’s happening.

Meanwhile the world’s central banks and insiders (vs Joe) are hitting the accelerator on it.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/04/investors-dump-bonds-gold-record-high.html

If you can’t see the signal at this point. You deserve what’s coming.

>>60907936

That’s a death cross for bonds in highly indebted countries. See the signal. Preserve your wealth. This cycle will pass and you wait for the next wave on some other asset. But right now. Real money must reassert to correct all these misallocations of capital (bubbles). It always happens. This is just going to be a big one.

>>60907941

Expect a bond crisis soon. Even Dimon is sayin it. It will be highly contagious.

>>60907892
Bruh, the only person struggle to grasp something here remains you.

You can’t invent a narrative from emotion and expect the numbers to back you.

It’s not the case there’s some mass exodus. The people buying bonds have increased as much as gold has. This is despite the fact that yes. Bonds and textbooks about bonds were written in the 80s when they had a different profile in the market. Things need to be rebalanced accordingly.

They also bought crypto and are making cdbcs.. your story about the global exit from the US dollar is just that.

Show some solid figures for your doom. Til then it’s just business as normal. Selling you news to trade on.

LMFAO THEY'RE NOT EVEN TRYING TO HIDE IT AHHAHAHHAH

FUCK THESE DROOLING BILLIONAIRE CUNTS

>>60907896
So is the west. But they are also buying securities at record rates. The only ones with record sales of us securities is t
Russia for obvious reasons similar Irans past. And china.

You are literally pedalling a Russian and Chinese propaganda narrative, because you think you personally will gain.

Wow, that’s some serious fortitude you have there (sarcasm).

How old are you approximately out of interest? Have you spent much time around older folks?

>>60907949

Well only time will tell now whose speculation is correct. The data is there. I’m seeing alarm bells everywhere. And geopolitical events are all symptoms on what’s happening underneath the surface. The war over money.

>>60907958

I’m 45 and have skin in the game. The fact you let trivial things like China and Russia bad cloud your decision making tells me. You’re heading to the cleaners.

>>60907908
No, people chose not to be pranked.
If you had proof that you were credible and the gold was real, there was no strings attached. Then yes. No one has a problem with gold.
The fact that there’s no way to satisfy those in an interaction, is the issue. No way to verify the product, or the service. Because there’s not enough education on the purchasing side, and not enough credibility on the sale side. That dipshit in new York pretends to do the same. Because it generate views from selective clipping, not because it’s factual.

>>60907960
I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m saying a basket concentration is the best snake in snakes and ladders. It’s also likely one of the longest ladders. But there’s many ladders that the state you fear, can’t flick a switch on. PMs can be stopped overnight. Which of all your eggs are there, leaves you laundering scraps. It’s not even unprecedented.

Diversification is a risk on sign. Market exiting is a catastrophic sign. I don’t think we’re there.

We need a revaluation through collapse, and it’ll come. But I don’t see gold as the only light in that tunnel, nor even as a particularly safe haven asset

>>60907926
>>60907965
just watch the vid
>>60907913
>lmao the gold is not real leme take the snickers bar instead and eat it

>>60907962
Homie. Way to say you can’t read.

I could give a fuck about Russia, china or the US. You don’t know what I trade. But you havnt shut the fuck up about your bags.

I’m telling you, the only MASSSSIVE sales you claim, happen to be from the Enemies of the US.

I’m not making a personal attack, the fact you took it as one just makes it retroactive bait.

You are a trader. Not an investor. Emotional traders are bad traders. Period.

>>60907977

So tell us then. What are you trading/investing. What’s your advice to everyone. I’ll guess you’re heavy in the Mag7 and crypto.

>>60907908
Didn’t need to. I did. He did exactly what I said.
He’s misrepresenting a point to push his own narrative via selective admissions.

The only idiots are the people who believe his click-baiting. (And yes, people who upon given serious and real consideration of the topic, would chose the lower value are also idiots, and yes a certain percentile is dumb, saying this is representative, is dumber again.

Why is the concept engaging? Because it challenges what MOST people think. The challenge here to conventional thinking is ‘can chigagoans really be that dumb’

Which, upon consideration for more than a second; is yes. They can be that dumb, some of them, at least a percentile.

Does this mean the average person thinks snickers is more valuable than gold? No. Like I said, trax does the same disingenuous shit to draw views. Because he’s an entertainer, not a merchant a trader or investor.
Have you bought a course?

>>60907889
Completely moronic. It took silver 45 years to just reclaim 40$. It’s not a monetary asset as classified by central banks. There is no central banks buying millions of ounces of silver eagles or maples or bars. Wool have to Wait until central banks reclassify the monetary status to ever see a run on silver. I can see silver hitting 80-90/ ounce but never 150+ let’s just be real. People would rather hold gold

>>60907999
>not a monetary asset as classified by central banks
Doesn't need to be. Silver being an industrial metal AND having a continuous deficit will raise its value closer to gold in the long run. Data centers and nuclear power go hand in hand. Each use more silver than gold to function.

>>60907978
Didn’t I say above crypto is mostly a scam and not a safe haven?

Does that imply to you that I’m crypto heavy? Or are you just trying to beat that straw man to death with adhominem setups?

Btw there is you. There isn’t an us. You represent a single person, there’s not a chorus sharing your narrative. You are trying to make it seem that way.

You don’t need to. Spreading FUD is a sign of underlying weakness in your Strat. The fact that when you get anxious, you spread more of your fear, is quite a telling sign. Don’t do that. Your Strat should be sound regardless of what someone else thinks or feels about an asset.

For example, I do hold some crypto. It’s trash and would be the first thing gone in a black swan or Weimar.
I do hold some PMs, but I won’t pretend that shtf it would save me.
Same as securities, only as stable as the nation backing them, and none are looking too strong.
After you mouthing off like that, you want me to drop gems for you?

I’d give you nuggets to spite you and you’d believe me. But there is a modicum of respect garnered. So I’ll chose not to be malicious and instead just cunty.

But one thing I’d say, is develop interest in A commodity required for energy production, that’s currently HEAVILY regulated. But will be essential in the new power state wherever in the world wins out. Its commodity elements are cheap.
The process is surprisingly simple (industrially relative) to produce. All you need to do is shut the fuck up about it and people are happy to let someone take care of it.

>>60907639
Went into my local lcs to look at prices on things, a jeet was in there buying 6 ounces of pamp bars all cash. Jeets love those pamp bars.

>>60907988
nerd gbtr

>>60907892
this is dollar milkshake theory. not necessarily wrong either but i wouldnt speak it like gospel quite yet

>>60907958
>usa will remain superpower, dont worry about all those 3rd worlder upstarts
this is banker logic, bad banker logic

>>60907973
>revalue via collapse
or the market could just correct. what one person refers to as a collapse or a depression is simply a return to normal. all systems will find natural homeostasis
>>60908024
>But one thing I’d say, is develop interest in A commodity required for energy production, that’s currently HEAVILY regulated. But will be essential in the new power state wherever in the world wins out.
lol just be clairvoyant bro and you will be rich

>>60908045
jeets do in fact love gold and silver; but then again alot of folks from outside the usa do. it makes sense when they come from a country with unstable banking and warlord shit

>>60906477
Cool monster drink on your silver you stupid unwitting kike lover

>>60908073
India will be a superpower by 2020.

Remember when we nuked oil to negative 35 just for the fucking lols?

>>60908073
Or just use negative inference.

What’s something used to make energy in weapons. Required for fission, but is currently highly classified and impossible to trade across certain lines?

>>60908073
Corrections
To a trend or a peg or a standard.
Not the same as a collapse and has not been experienced by anyone alive in the markets.

>>60907353
Yeah I think this is accurate, 250 to just make it, 500 to hard-retire, 1,000 for true retirement.
>>60906931
Younger people should have the biggest stacks they can, as it'll take more for them to retire. They might even be tempted to have enough to invest in the new economy that pops up more than the older stackers, as they have to plan for the next 50 years of their life but the old stackers can just relax and sell off a little until they die.

I'm going to buy a little gold in the next 3 months and then a bit more around month3,4 next year and see what the price is doing.
It's getting annoyingly expensive though bros

>>60908185
>annoyingly expensive
Yeah. At least silver is still cheap.

>>60908185
Why not buy now? Because you are poor....lmao,,,not gonna do what poors do, buy rocks and wage their life away

Remember yall a make it stack of silver is 140,000 ounces,,,,keep waging until you get there

>>60908045
Yall claim they are dumb and poor but you behave just like them,,,,,,,,kektop

>>60907965
Exactly. A stranger comes up to you on the street and tries to make a deal, anyone who isn't a fool suspects a rip off. And when you are being filmed at the same time, anyone who isn't a moron suspects they are being pranked. So there is no way you are getting a normal reaction. Furthermore, the guy who is doing the "test" is looking to get views and so will edit to make the video more controversial.

Anyone who thinks those videos prove anything at all are gullible and probably believe legacy media is reporting the facts.

>>60908185
I just mix in two pesos every time I buy silver. Buying fractionals is economical if gold goes up by 30% every year - by one year all the premium will be wiped away without slowing down my other investments.

>>60908208
Because buying the top is what jeets do.
>>60908215
>>60908209
Speaks for themselves.

Clean yourself up. It fucking stinks in here. Smells like someone bathed in the river they shit into.

>>60908217
Have some reddit gold.
The clarification was probably helpful. It’s well put. Thanks