Thread 60906570

Is there anything that could actually tank its value?
I have literally no idea why it's trading for more than every other major auto company combined. It's insanity

>>60906570 (OP)
it's a scam

>>60906570 (OP)
Market sees it as a tech company. America loves an underdog and elon has reached near maximum negative sentiment. I'm not buying but would I be surprised to see him get his trillion dollar pay out? No

>>60906570 (OP)
>Why?
Retarded and manipulated market
Also I assume a lot of people sold when he broke with with his orange boyfriend and whalers/big players/institutions stepped and bought the weak hands
The market doesn't care, so when weak hands get flushed and big players step in it pumps

>>60906586
I'm wondering if the elimination of the federal tax credit could put them in an even harder spot. They post worse earnings quarter after quarter

>>60906588
It logically must dump from here because they bought all the weak hands so there is nothing else to do but to sell. I don't think retail wants to trade or even think about this stock anymore so there is nothing to short so the big players will leave eventually. But who knows there are a lot of retards and big players like to profit from them

>>60906570 (OP)
Nope. It's a billionaire simping cult.
As long as Burgersharts will worship billionaires, Tesla will be fine.
They're so infatuated with bigger numbers, they will help Musk getting that $1trilly paycheck.
GO TEAM GO TEAM
USA USA USA

>>60906596
More like a big retarded cult of Tesla and Muskrat dickriders who lose all their money to please the master while the actual people who make money (him and his rich buddies) destroy them and the weak hands

Elon has no smarts or talent, that's why he runs both a car company and a rocket company. You guys are geniuses and talented which is why you post on 4chan about losing your life savings on buying internet funnymoney. You'll make it one day guys just two more weeks

Look how many weird dips this shit had like I said.
No other stock had this many weird dips.
This stock is beyond manipulated

>>60906649
Compared to NVDA
Look how big the difference is

>>60906649
>>60906586
>>60906577
>>60906570 (OP)
It's called getting free liquidity from retarded leverage traders. Ask yourself why 90% of leverage traders lose money.
The answer is very simple. Hedge funds have the money to squeeze retarded ultra risk tards that think a stock is free short money. Since retards keep shorting tesla they will keep buying it to screw them over. Literally how most hedge funds make money.

>>60906672
Yep exactly
They squeeze them hard

>>60906570 (OP)
>I have literally no idea why it's trading for more than every other major auto company combined. It's insanity
- self-driving that works without expensive lidar
- self-driving taxi fleet
- bleeding edge humanoid robots
- best CEO on planet Earth, anything he touches turns into gold

>>60906701
>>60906619
Lmao this speaks for itself

>>60906649
This is because tesla has more retail investors than any other stock of similar size. And retail investors buy and sell more often than institutions do so the price swings around a lot. That said I have almost 50% of my portfolio in tesla right now. Its the worst performer of the mag 7. Nvidia, microsoft, apple, all have taken off and tesla will be next. It will be easily be worth $400 within a few months and probably will 3 or 4 trillion market cap within a few years.

>>60906713
Yea not surprised with so many retards like anons said here >>60906672
Maybe they will stop being retarded but I doubt.
Retards will remain retarded

>>60906703
not saying there's no tesla/elon cult, but it sounds like you're in an equally detached from reality anti-tesla/elon cult
both pro-tesla and anti-tesla cults are likely managed by the same organization, serving the interests of the best and most genius CEO on Earth (fact)
I drive a toyota btw and will never ever buy a fully electric car

>>60906570 (OP)
>Is there anything that could actually tank its value?
No. It was the most shorted stock in history and they're still paying it off.

Was.

>>60906728
I mean yea he is good at profiting from retards but his products are very mediocre. He is good investor, businessman, exploiter but at inventing and coming up with revolutionary and mind blowing products not so much.

>>60906570 (OP)
the cars are very cool and affordable and better all around than all other EVs

>>60906855
Yeah I agree but that doesn't justify them being worth more than 20x their competition especially when their earnings aren't as good

>>60906874
Bro... We already told you the market doesn't care what the actual price or value of the stocks is.
The only thing that matters is just how much money is power in it

>>60906925
Poured*

>>60906925
>the market doesn't care what the actual price or value of the stocks is
Yes it does, that's how a market works. But it is a volatile stock because there is lots of price disagreement

>>60907018
>price disagreement
What lol? This not bartering wtf are you talking about

>>60906570 (OP)
>I have literally no idea why it's trading for more than every other major auto company combined.

Tesla has a vision for the automotive future that sees a transition from Internal Combustion Engines (ICE) vehicles manually driven, to Electric Vehicles that have automatic driving capabilities. Investing in Tesla was like investing in Ford Automobile at the turn of century, just before the transition from horse drawn vehicles to ICE vehicles. That ALONE more than justifies the market capitalization of Tesla as an automotive company. I do not think most of the traditional (ICE) Automobile companies will still be in business a decade from now.

>>60906596
>they will help Musk getting that $1trilly paycheck.

Actually SpaceX will get Elon to a trillion.
Combine that with Tesla and Elon will the the world's first multitrillionaire.

>>60906570 (OP)
Tesla got their lunch eaten by the Chinese, the humanoid robots have been shit tier for a decade, robotaxis are behind schedule and there are shitloads of competitors. Also, liberals aka his customer base hate Musk, now.

>>60907223
>Tesla is gay

>>60906570 (OP)
Death by 1000 cuts: SpaceX and Starlink competition is already here, carbon credits are already decreasing year by year, half of his products will never actually come out, and Grok can't direct users to services, products, ads, etc. Tesla can monetize as Google, Meta, and, to a lesser extent, MS are already capable of, etc.

Tesla remains in the promise phase, while competitors are beginning to deliver results; therefore, institutions will gradually shift their investments to these competitors if Tesla fails to catch up. Probably happening already.

Also, in my opinion (engineer who follows the field autistically)... functional humanoid robots are not happening in the next 20 years, and then add 10 years more until they are reliable and affordable.

>>60906570 (OP)
Why are you looking at it like its some automobile company when its a fucking software company disguised as a automobile company?

>>60906570 (OP)
Tesla is never gonna dump. It's about worshipping Elon musk because his dad owned slaves

>>60906570 (OP)
i really don't see how this company has a future and i don't understand how the company's mentally ill retard board of directors are seeing any pathway to $8T market cap. consider that
>zognald is killing EV tax credits
>zognald is killing solar tax credits
>chinks are making more affordable/accessible EVs
>chinks are catching up in terms of battery technology

>>60906570 (OP)
For stock valuations, fundamentals don't matter. All that matters is hype.

Bitcoin sells zero cars, and yet it has a higher market capitalization than Tesla

>>60908197
> i don't understand how the company's mentally ill retard board of directors are seeing any pathway to $8T market cap
Inflation, after Trump takes control of the Fed and starts up the money printers

>>60907998
Does Tesla sell software to anyone other than themselves?

>>60907223
>Tesla has a vision of battery-electric propulsion and self-driving
As do 100+ other companies, including some really competitive ones

>>60906701
Lidar isn't expensive anymore

Other than higher hardware costs due to being an American company, what does Tesla have that none of the myriad other humanoid robot companies don't?

>>60906701
Lidar isn't expensive anymore.

What are the profit margins of a taxi services when there are a myriad competitors, some of which have equal or superior products?

Other than higher hardware costs due to being an American company, what does Tesla have that none of the myriad other humanoid robot companies do?

>>60908475
Toyota will take over the ev market in the next 5 years with their solid state battery technology
t I work with batteries.

>>60908498
Why is Toyota likely to jump ahead of other companies like CATL, etc?

>>60906570 (OP)
job numbers

>>60908506
They’ve been working on solid state batteries for a while. For a long time they were only able to make small ones. But now they were able to scale it up. Solid state batteries are supposedly significantly safer, energy dense, and charge faster.

>>60908506
If we weren’t in clown world I would go all in on Toyota. They will destroy their ev competition. I was always the person saying battery technology isn’t there yet. Toyota’s solid state battery technology might convince me to buy an ev. But I will like to do some test validation on their batteries first.

>>60907223
>automatic driving capabilities
they already backed down on this
even if they hadn't, it's unlikely to ever be legal
also most traditional automakers make hybrids and/or EVs now and are much more affordable than tesla

i used to work at a warehouse robot company and the biggest problem was all the minimum wage retards that they required to function. humanoid robots have a massive market potential and people will buy them up as fast as they can to improve efficiency in many manual labor jobs. the only question is whether Tesla will be that company that gets there first

>>60909166
Figure.ai>Tesla robotics

>>60907989
>opinion (engineer who follows the field autistically)
Haha, I known your kind. You're usually super narrow-minded and you don't understand technology management and business models. What pisses you off the most is that people like Gates, Jobs, Musk don't ask you about your opinion or even for your permission.

dont they have an insane infrastructure?

>>60906570 (OP)
are people willing to buy tesla even without subsidies?