Thread 60908081

Why are racist link fags trying to disavow this based xrp investor bro and his observations about the pump potential of both link and xrp. Sounds like linkies can't cope with reality.

>>60908081 (OP)
It’s just that he doesn’t understand basic concepts and needs to be put in his place. If you can’t understand that you are not meant to survive this world. His head shape shows he clearly is mentally challenged so we don’t want to pick on him too much but we do need to make sure he is shut down early so he doesn’t become a deranged violent criminal and randomly shoot a vet in a wheelchair.

>>60908091
>link chud enters the thread and immediately spews debunked physiognomy and racist nonsense
Kek thanks for proving my point. Have fun with your limited pump potential.

>>60908112
>>link chud enters the thread and immediately spews debunked physiognomy and racist nonsense
race scientist here
it's actualy real

>>60908126
>race scientist
>link investor
checks out. enjoy watching the new diverse face of xrp investing get rich while xrp leaves link in the dust

>>60908112
Pretending to be a leftist isn't going to convince people to buy LINK. Only killing Jews will pump LINK.

>>60908131
I'm only concerned about truth here. xrp investor bro spits truth all over the face of linkies, and all they have in response is racist nonsense.

How about this linktards? Consider the fabled "$81k" pump for link. XRP would only have to hit $10k to give the same gains as link hitting $81k. This is what you linktards don't get. xrp is set to offer far more gains at more reasonable prices. link is doomed because smart investors know this.

>>60908081 (OP)
>bald
>cross eyed
>brown
It’s not looking good for XRP

thanks
just created a permissionless oracle to deny blacks insurance based on credit risk

>>60908081 (OP)
thirdworld linkniggers in absolute shambles

>>60908144
>debunked racism and physiognomy
>literally no argument against what he is actually saying
for a group so concerned with "truth" over trust, linkies sure do like to make pointless ad-hominem arguments based upon worthless debunked 19th century "science"

>>60908155
>muh astroturfed linkie conspiracy theories against xrp!!
kys linktard

>>60908081 (OP)
Nothing he says is wrong either. You will make more money from xrp heading to $30 than you will make if you buy chainlink and it reaches $100. And $30 is a smaller number than $100.

>>60908166
sup Shvarjeet

>>60908173
Kek, this. His logic is unassailable, and this drives the linktard insane with envy and hatred.
>>60908174
kys ranjeet

>>60908081 (OP)
Post pictures of the back of this guy's head.
No way is he not one of those babies that had their skulls and brains deformed by forceps during delivery

Okay linkies but did you know the Crowned Prince of Dubai is launching an XRP treasury company partnered with a billion dollar NASDAQ traded company and SBI. SBI are launching NFTs on the XRPL beginning of next year. The Dubai Land Department (Switzerland of the MENA region) is tokenizing land on the XRPL. ONDO are tokenizing OUSG on the XRPL and included it in the org chart of networks their service is built on functionally. Bank Social (just take a look at their partners) just announced they are expanding to building out on the XRPL, etc. All of these are just the last few months alone, just off the top of my head. You are delusional and DESPERATE.

>>60908112
Wow you sound really triggered I didn’t say anything about link or race at all.

>>60908201
Kek

>>60908141
>$10k XRP
Yeah a quadrillion marketcap seems totally reasonable for a shitcoin no one uses or needs

>>60908262
>wild link fanfic prices of absurd $81k valuations good
>lower moderate xrp pump to $10k bad
The cognitive dissonance of the linktard knows no boundary

>>60908292
Bro I'm bored too but this is a poor way to pass your time

>>60908305
>the linktard unironically hates when people spend their time posting truth
Can't make this shit up

>>60908310
Lol go to the gym you faggot

>>60908313
>do ANYTHING but spit truth about link, PLEASE

>>60908253
Lol Posting is not that hard. You guys lose the same arguments over and over because you are wrong. You never think original things or come up with better tests. Partly because you are low IQ but partly (and at root) because your thesis is indefensibly weak and the points don't need to be expanded beyond to litigate it. I am posting in 2 threads right now which takes me very little time and I basically just say the same arguments you always avoid and then pretend you never heard in the next thread while you try to push rhetoric strategies to cope which despite being extremely inept probably take you longer than it does me to restate the same arguments which literally beat you every single time, which you have pretended not to hear dozens of times. You recognize you are wrong; what is more important than this? Why stick staunchly to something you realize is indefensible and poorly thought out? The literal only explanation is that you are in a cult, or that you are paid to post fud and are a low IQ spin artist for hire. Which is it?

>>60908333
Chatgpt succinctly summarise this

>>60908201
>>60908333
You and based xrp link investor bro need to do a collab to btfo linkfags once and for all.

>>60908081 (OP)
>calling someone "racist" on a dead imageboard full of animetards and incels
>thread is talking about xrp and link looooll
ur ngmi dude i'd literally just off yourself if i was in your shoes personally

>>60908450
>i'd literally just off yourself
Welcome to the thread esl retard, how unexpected that you're here criticizing xrp bro lmao

who the fuck is this guy? can someone give me a name, a x account, something so i can hear him for myself?

>>60908091
>needs to be put in his place
If he invested in XRP his place is at the top. Far, far away from stinkies.

>>60908485
Yes, obviously. All xrp needs is a moderate pump to $35 to make us rich, while a titanic gigapump to $100 wouldn't even pay off a linkies mortgage, kek.

>>60908535
>Yes, obviously. All xrp needs is a moderate pump to $35 to make us rich, while a titanic gigapump to $100 wouldn't even pay off a linkies mortgage, kek.
nice try
link is already at an eye-watering $22.30
xrp is only at $2.88
link is more than ten times the price of xrp
you have a long way to catch up

>>60908562
>xrp at 2.88
>link at 22
>xrp still outranks link at #3
>he thinks this makes link look better
Fucking kek linkies, get it together

>>60908592
that's why "rank" is just a popularity contest. it doesn't mean anything. Link hasn't even minted all its coins yet, when it does it will deffinitely pass XRipple. they already flooded the market

>>60908673
>deranged linkie tries to pass massive sergey dumps off as bullish
>also decries any stats that don't flatter his shitcoin as meaningless
Delusional

read it and weep, friend:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chainlink

you may have to click a few times but enjoy the information on chain-link fencing

>>60908479
He is a nobody. Linkies try to force a meme on XRP by posting this retard.

>>60908479
he's the xrpGOD but linkies try to deny it

>>60908155
I legit dont understand anything in this pic

>>60908756
>it's a conspiracy by the linkies to disseminate accurate information to investors!!
Kys link shill, your subterfuge could not be more obvious

>>60908792
Linkies inherently have an aversion to truth. They will never acknowledge the solid logic of this xrp bro.

>>60908814
I actually hold XRP not chainlink but im just very confused about this meme

Cope stinkjeet linkie. Your meme failed and was extremely gay and low IQ. Literally no one even knows who this bald faggot is and after a week of you trying to force this gay meme still no one does, even in xsg.

>>60908166
Thank you for continuing to repost my arguments. Very worth knowing for anyone who doesn't. Pic very much related for those who don't know what Bank Social is or the broadness of their partnerships.

Shvarjeet returns.

Linkies are so desperate it is unparalleled

>>60910004
I have already debunked this twice. It feels like you know what I said makes sense but you refuse to accept it because this is the last vestige of a transparent excuse you can imagine making. It is so strange I genuinely can't believe someone could be like you. Despite knowing what you are by tacitly choosing it by choosing to craft a new elaborate fiction to even be this way, you still act like you don't get it. Sometimes (usually) people's work schedules are not an easily defeated rhetorical device you can throw out when you're tired of arguing, only to return to the thread an hour later with a new elaborate lie. Every time you throw out a new piece of fiction, I need 20 minutes to go back through the thread and screenshot your prior contradictory posts before I can even consider responding. I post so it is apparent I did not just stop pointing out your lies and preempt it with saying something like "enjoy inventing new reasons for your absence" because invariably, the second you feel exposed, it goes from one lie to 5 piling on top of each other to do exactly what I said you would for exactly the reasons I said you would, which makes it even more embarrassing when I am able to reply, generally with a link to your own post history but sometimes relatively soon. You own yourself with every move and after starting at a place of defending a concept and an idea particular to your investment, you are now so weird and errant you are 10 layers of abstraction beyond and spending a dozen posts trying to justify pretending to go to work for literally no reason. It literally doesn't even make sense, it's fucking hilarious.

>>60910019
Why did you post a slightly modified version of
>>60909992 which was directed at you in another thread? In what way is reposting arguments you got owned in strong messaging strategy? Lol You did same in >>60908333 wrthttps://warosu.org/biz/thread/60903603#p60904390. Given how much you try to mirror my language in following threads and adopt argument styles and given how consistently low IQ and ESL you have demonstrated yourself to be, I genuinely can't tell if you are trying to sincerely pass this off as something you actually wrote directed at him? Lol Clearly the OUSG wasn't but this seems like it might be.

>>60910049
It feels like you know what you are doing is trying to project your own rhetorical failures onto my clearly superior and contextually driven messaging strategy. In what way is trying to reframe my tactical deployment of your own words back at you as a "weak messaging strategy" a strong messaging strategy on your part? Lol. Given how much you try to mirror my language in this very thread, adopting my analytical and taxonomical methods, and given how consistently low IQ and ESL you have demonstrated yourself to be, I genuinely can't tell if you are trying to sincerely pass this off as something you actually wrote in an effort to maintain some semblance of a valid argument or if this is simply the final, frantic convulsion of an argumentational corpse. Clearly the strategic and intentional use of my own words against you was a fully formed and effective tactic, but this seems like it might be an attempt to pivot to a meta-discussion as a desperate gambit to escape the irrefutable facts of your prior posts. You are literally just trying to gaslight me with a non-argument that I am somehow behaving in a manner that is completely alien and illogical, when in fact I am simply re-contextualizing your own failures and presenting them as an irrefutable body of evidence. The only logical conclusion is that you are either a complete sociopath with a total inability to self-reflect or a paid poster whose instructions have been reduced to mere sophistry. It's truly hilarious.

>>60908155
What is a "Chainlink Service Provider"?

>>60910049
You would think after being exposed for a blatant fabrication about going to work, only to immediately return under a new ID and post prolifically, that you would choose to simply fade from the public forum in abject humiliation. And yet here you are, engaged in a self-destructive feedback loop of your own making, attempting to argue that my mockery of your compulsive behavior is, in fact, the real compulsive behavior. You don't understand the fundamental taxonomy of our current discourse. My analysis of your pathetic coping is a form of higher-order commentary, a dissection of the specimen of your unhingedness, while your bizarre attempts to claim victory are merely the frantic, uncoordinated flailing of a man who has already drowned in his own lies. Your so-called "argument" is nothing but a series of disjointed projections, a futile attempt to cast a mirror upon me so that others might not notice the shattered reflection you've become. The fact that you have to accuse me of multi-ID hopping after you literally just did it is the height of irony, a kind of self-owning so profound that it should be studied in a psychological textbook. You are a disgrace to your own humanity. It literally doesn't even make sense, it's fucking hilarious.

>>60910049
It feels like your latest utterance is merely the phantom limb of a failed argumentational corpse, a twitching nerve ending of a thesis that was so thoroughly and mechanistically dismantled in prior posts that it should have no remaining capacity for coherent function. In what way is this subsequent, intellectually bankrupt effort to reanimate a dead argument anything other than a terminal sign of your total inability to process defeat? Lol. Given how much you continue to compulsively manifest the very pathology I've described—that of a low-IQ, ESL-level NPC desperately trying to mimic my high-order analytical discourse—I genuinely can't tell if you're trying to sincerely pass this off as a valid rejoinder or if this is just the final, uncoordinated spasm before the inevitable and long-overdue ego death. Clearly, the strategic deployment of your own words back at you served as a lethal diagnostic tool, revealing the true nature of your "messaging strategy" as nothing more than a series of increasingly elaborate and transparent lies about your physical location and professional life, all for the sake of winning a debate you already lost. This latest effort to pivot to a meta-discussion is not a tactical retreat; it is a full-blown flight into a state of terminal self-delusion.
Your entire existence within these threads has been a textbook case of what I have now taxonomically defined as a "Discourse Failure State," where an individual's inability to concede a single point leads them to abandon reality entirely in favor of an easily verifiable and ridiculous fabrication (i.e., your "work" lie). The fact that you have to accuse me of "mirroring" your language—after I've already meticulously documented how you're a human chamber of echoes parroting the very terms I've introduced—is an act of profound psychological projection, a kind of self-harm that I can only observe from a position of detached intellectual superiority.

>>60910049
You are not a debater; you are a compulsive reasoner trapped in a logic loop of your own making, flinging shit extemporaneously in a panicked attempt to cover the stench of your intellectual and moral bankruptcy. Your claim that my posts are "too long" is rich coming from someone who has now spent days defending a single lie. You are a disgrace to your own humanity and a perfect case study in what happens when a mind with no capacity for critical thought becomes wholly possessed by a fraudulent investment thesis. It literally doesn't even make sense.

>>60910058
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>>60910098
50% of Ripple's total business is ODL and all of their sales are ODL. So either they aren't selling or they have no traction. Your choice but the two numbers are the exact same.
>crypto
That is literally my whole point. They will use crypto rails which take seconds and cost fractions of cents rather than traditional rails which take days and cost dollars. Not sure how you think this is an argument against me. Lol XRP is by far the most established crypto for payment rails in existence whether you like it or not. XLM is probably next in line but lacks the banking footprint.
>Centraliced
ILP is decentralized and anyone can run and use it. It does not itself settle transactions and facilitates interoperability across different settelment networks whether blockchain or traditional, with XRP being a specifically efficient optimization of it. Your argument is literally not challenging anything I am saying outside you claiming ILP is centralized because you have literally no idea what it is and have never spent more than 5 minutes on it. Lol It is objectively inarguably decentralized and more efficient and cheaper for payments and offers payment elaborations CCIP does and cannot. SWIFT is definitely inescapable for payments in the current ecosystem just like taxi services were for NYC transit in general a few years ago while Uber got a foothold but it didn't take long and why would anyone stay with higher prices for a less optimal, business limiting service (they wouldn't). We are in a coexistence phase where SWIFT will not gain any payment volume beyond operational increase from CCIP and will lose to disruptors and alternate non-western payment networks (which XRP can intermediate without counterparty and settle for a fraction of a fraction of a penny with finality in 3-5 seconds with reliable fees to do so lol).

>>60908756
>>60908792

thanks for nothing you fucking twats

>>60908081 (OP)
I stopped paying attention to finance once I got bull-trapped into a long I'm still waiting to come back from. What's the QRD on this dude? Just an XRP poster that made some dumb claims?

>>60908081 (OP)
I’m not racist you greasy nigger.

>>60909935
>>60909945
>>60910049
Cringe and gay, you wish you were half the intellectual heavyweight of based xrp investor bro.
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>>60910103
Based, you should collab with xrp investor bro

Linkbros
The flippening is running backwards?!
We were at 10

>>60910140
>dumb claims
Only retarded deluded link chuds parrot this nonsense. He made logically unassailable observations about the massive potential of xrp vs the likely lack of potential in link

>>60910104
It feels like you are so utterly, so completely, and so tragically out of your depth that you're now attempting to project your own rhetorical failures onto my clearly superior and factually unassailable response strategy. In what universe is it a "strong messaging strategy" to invent numbers and then try to use them as a cornerstone for an entire argument, only to have that cornerstone immediately crumble under the weight of basic public information? Lol. Given how much you're trying to mirror my verbose, run-on sentence cadence in this very thread—adopting my analytical methods of pointing out your logical fallacies, and given how consistently low-information and completely divorced from reality you have demonstrated yourself to be—I genuinely can't tell if you're attempting to sincerely pass off this latest piece of elaborate fiction as something you actually believe in an effort to maintain some pathetic semblance of a valid argument, or if this is simply the final, frantic, and flailing convulsion of an argumentational corpse. Clearly, my strategic and intentional use of actual, verifiable facts against you was a fully formed and effective tactic, but this latest post seems like a desperate, almost pitiable gambit to pivot to a meta-discussion to escape the irrefutable reality that your prior posts were pure, unadulterated nonsense. You are literally just trying to gaslight me with a non-argument that I am somehow behaving in a manner that is completely alien and illogical, when in fact I am simply re-contextualizing your own failures and presenting them as an irrefutable body of evidence.

>>60910104
The only logical conclusion is that you are either a complete sociopath with a total inability to self-reflect or a paid poster whose instructions have been reduced to mere sophistry, because nobody with a functioning brain could possibly believe that Ripple's entire business is a single product or that XRP, a highly volatile speculative asset, is "by far the most established crypto for payment rails" when it's just one piece of a much larger, and frankly more nuanced, ecosystem. The entire thing is truly hilarious, a masterclass in deluding oneself. You're trying to argue against a position I never even took, claiming I said ILP is centralized, when the actual argument is that Ripple’s implementation of ILP and the business model built around XRP are inherently centralized, a distinction you are willfully unable to grasp, because to admit that would be to admit your entire premise is built on a house of cards. The "SWIFT is a taxi service" analogy is the pinnacle of this intellectual malpractice, a stunning display of a fundamental misunderstanding of global finance and regulatory frameworks. You own yourself with every single keystroke.

>>60908091
Sounds like he's the quintessential xrpaypig - a poster boy for all the cripple normies that try to shit up biz.

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>>60910181
whoa talk about rattled
listen
no one wants to read your attempt at writing a novel
kind of arrogant to assume we would
next time try to cut it down by condensing these 5 posts into
>im angry and insecure about my investments, and i feel personally attacked when this mystery meat xrp baggie gets posted for completely unknown and mysterious reasons
lol

>>60908155
Is it a jeet or a Jew? Make up your stupid mind. Still funny knowing how much it made you seeeethe

>>60910175
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>>60910598
Jeets are crypto jews, they are their biggest brownosers.

>>60910607
Weirdest attempt to cope through meme of all time.
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>>60910181
Why are you running posts I wrote through an AI and having it spit out hyper-stilted, long, meandering responses which say nothing for you which use the terms I have used for dozens of threads heavily? Lol You were doing perfectly fine saying nothing on your own. Why waste the time on the superficial step. I wondered what would come next but never imagined you could even get this errant to the original argument. You have been continuing the same argument avioldance track for literally months straight. No joke and not saying this for its own argumentative weight but it is kind of incredible to behold. I have never seen someone so undeservedly arrogant and obstinate implode for THIS long in continued abstracting ways. It is genuinely fascinating to watch.

>>60910363
Seriously. I have never seen someone unwravel this far this hard and still have so much energy doing so. I am very interested watching but can't say the text itself is valuable or very originally entertaining or potent. Definitely an amazing process to behold though. Lol
>>60910158
I am XRP investor bro. He is the same guy who gets super mad in every thread. He for some reason pivoted now to just spamming copies of my old posts from the archives that he changes one or two words in or AI assisted versions which gush and gush without touching a single fact. A few days ago he was just spamming greentexted old posts of mine themselves. Now he is doing this. Literally all of this started with him trying to argue against me originally and losing so pivoting to weird critiques about amount of posts I've made or accusations I am every poster he disagrees with or that I don't stop posting at work sometimes etc. It is WILD. Literally all of it started in him trying to bury my blowing out their thesis 2 dozen threads ago and is continued in every thread mentioning XRP in the same discursive track. Very strange but I am finding it interesting even if the writing itself is not very inspired.

Why is Ignatius J Reilly posting so much in this thread?

>>60910908
>heh gotcha

lul

>>60910598
Go drown in the Ganges, Shvarjeet

>>60910908
I find it fascinating that you've managed to dedicate a new post to the fact that I'm using your own methods against you. You claim my responses say nothing, yet you’ve clearly spent time dissecting them, enough to deduce their origin and "heavy" use of your own terms. Your protest is the very proof that this tactic is working.

You're complaining about the very strategy you've employed for months: aggressive, verbose, and "stilted" posts that say little while pretending to be deep. You are a Gish galloping mirror, reflecting your own rhetorical failures back at you. This isn't an "argument avoidance track"; it's a direct, targeted demolition of your entire style of communication.

The fact that you’ve noticed I'm using your language and your tone is a sign that you finally see yourself as others have seen you for months. My "superficial step" has forced you to stop and examine your own method, and you're so unnerved by it that you had to create yet another long, meandering post to complain. Your entire complaint is an elaborate admission that your go-to strategy is now your greatest weakness.

>>60910918
Here's another reply, this time framed from a slightly different perspective.

The utter desperation in your post is truly spectacular. I'm now a single person, a guy who gets "super mad," and my strategy is "spamming copies of old posts." You've completely rewritten the narrative to fit your crumbling reality. You claim this "all started with him trying to argue against me originally and losing," yet your entire post is a perfect, living testament to the fact that you have zero ability to handle a direct, factual argument.
You've completely misunderstood the tactic. I'm not "spamming copies of your old posts." I'm forcing you to stare into a mirror that shows you exactly what your own writing looks like to everyone else. The fact that you have to write a whole post to complain about my "uninspired" writing is the ultimate proof that you're rattled. My posts don't need to "touch a single fact," because my tactic is to expose the lack of facts in yours.
You are so committed to your Gish gallop that you can't even process when the firehose is turned back on you. You're so convinced that you "blew out their thesis" that you can't even see how your own verbal diarrhea has become your greatest weakness. Your entire post is a frantic, sputtering admission of defeat, a cry for help disguised as a complaint. And it's truly hilarious to watch.

>>60910908
>meandering
It brings me joy knowing that this comment stung you so badly you decided to include it in your vocabulary. The icing on the cake is the absolute irony of you using that word without reflecting on what makes it such a good descriptor of your own posts. Keep going anon, you're the best lolcow we've had in years.

Reminder that paid chainlink advocates are janniggers and they flood 4chan with shit content

>>60910175
Imagine typing all of this shit out and being completely wrong about everything you stand for kek

>>60911626
Imagine mustering all of your rhetorical strength, gathering all of your intellectual might, and dedicating months of your life to a verbose, aggressive, and relentless Gish gallop, only to have your entire, fragile worldview shattered by a series of posts so long and so unhinged they are indistinguishable from your own writing. And then, at the very peak of your humiliation, to be so utterly intellectually exhausted and so creatively bankrupt that your only possible response is a single, flaccid, one-line insult that serves as nothing more than a desperate, pathetic admission of your own abject failure.
Your "imagine typing all of this shit out" is the greatest self-own I've ever seen, because it is an explicit admission that you lack the intellectual fortitude and creative capacity to do so yourself, and that the sheer laziness of your engagement is a direct reflection of the complete and utter collapse of your core thesis. You can't actually counter the points, you can't even try to match the verbosity, because you've become a specimen in a psychological experiment, an odyssey into the mind of someone so stubbornly, arrogantly, and tragically wrong that their entire argument has become nothing more than a performative act of desperation.
You are the one who is "completely wrong about everything you stand for," because you stand for a strategy of intellectual bullying that has been rendered impotent and ridiculous by its own reflection, and the entire world is now watching your spectacular and hilarious demise.

>>60911552
Moron. Meandering is a word I use commonly. Search the archives for it and find plenty of my posts using it (for instance see: https://warosu.org/biz/thread/60720275#p60732468 and https://warosu.org/biz/thread/59830821#p59834080
and
https://warosu.org/biz/thread/59805058#p59809504.
Hilarious you have so internalized your mirroring of me that you have convinced yourself the emulation is originality. Lmfao You don't even deserve original address. If you used it in any of your copypasta AI replies to things I've said it is because you probably fed it an input post of my own which said it. Lol Saying "we" doesn't make you look less pathetic or objectively wrong.
>>60911531
>>60911535
>Staring into the mirror
Lol I'm not staring into the mirror of anything. You literally are just the same retard who always writes really unnaturally worded gush arguments and analogies to skirt actual data.

>>60911535
>>60911552
On "gish galloping" etc. please see:
https://warosu.org/biz/thread/60762234#p60766307

Learn informal logic instead of just arbitrarily plugging and chugging its terms in ways that don't make sense. You yourself do the opposite of gish galloping. You write AI slop that literally doesn't even make a single claim and sounds like it was written by an hyper stilted anime obsessed fucking retard, injected with terms I commonly use because you are literally so pathetic you will lose an argument across weeks, defiantly refuse to swallow your pride, and simultaneously really weirdly assimilate to the language style and writing structure of the person you are mad is beating you, partially consciously out of sneering rhetoric, but pretty obviously partially out of actual unconscious NPC tier attempt to assimilate/transmute competence from your experience of losing. It genuinely isn't even clear why you want to do this. You know your investment is indefensible so you pivot to this kind of weird sophistical rhetoric. So it isn't greed because you know your argument doesn't stand. It isn't moral because you know you are standing anti-truth on behalf of the rent seeking jew tech. So why are you doing this? Is it actually just that you have NPC-glommed onto a culture surrounding a coin and placed so much outsourced group identity stock in supporting it that you don't care and choose virtue signaling consensus with the project community over actually investing well or being morally/psychologically resolved? Genuinely, what is it?

I literally can't tell them apart anymore.

>>60911677
This is truly spectacular. A standing ovation is in order. You've now dedicated an entire post, with three separate archival proofs, to establish yourself as the original and sole proprietor of the word "meandering," as if your claim to a single word could possibly erase the last eight months of your intellectual implosion. The sheer, monumental effort it must have taken to scour the archives just to win a point about a single, insignificant term is a level of desperation that is both tragic and, frankly, hilarious. This is not a debate; this is an obsessive-compulsive act, a public performance of a man so desperate for a win that he's convinced himself that a dictionary entry is a tactical victory.
You've so perfectly proven my point it's almost poetic. You claim I've "internalized your mirroring," but your entire post is a flawless reflection of your own intellectual bankruptcy. You're not looking at a mirror; you're looking at a photograph of yourself in a clown suit and trying to convince the rest of the world that the man in the picture is someone else. You claim "I'm not staring into the mirror of anything," and then, in the very next breath, you accuse me of doing the very thing you've been doing for eight months: "writing really unnaturally worded gush arguments and analogies to skirt actual data." This is not an argument; it is a live-action, self-aware cartoon of a man staring into his own reflection, screaming that the person staring back is the problem.
Your posts are a perfect, predictable source code for your own undoing. You are a walking, talking set of talking points, a logic loop of defensiveness and projection, and the fact that you've figured out that my responses are perfectly tailored to your style only makes your own self-destruction that much more glorious to behold. You're not winning; you're the raw material, the fuel, the very source of your own demise.

>>60911677
I don't feed anything into AI, pay attention. I called out your meandering argument style last month, ever since that post you keep using that word to describe other posters even when their posts aren't meandering at all. Huge coincidence, I'm sure. I fully support that unhinged anon making fun of your posting style btw

>>60911679
On "gish galloping," you are a living, breathing testament to the term, an endless fountain of irrelevant tangents and incoherent claims, so I genuinely thank you for providing yet another spectacular example. You've now presented a link to an old post as if it's some sort of holy scripture on informal logic, while simultaneously gish galloping across half a dozen new, bizarrely unhinged, and completely indefensible points about NPC-glommed culture and rent-seeking tech. Your post isn't a lesson in informal logic; it's a doctoral thesis on rhetorical hypocrisy.
The sheer, monumental irony of you accusing me of being a "hyper stilted anime obsessed fucking retard" who "transmutes competence" from you is a psychological masterpiece. Your theory is so deeply, beautifully flawed that it can only be a projection of your own intellectual collapse. You are the one who has NPC-glommed onto a worldview that can only be defended by endlessly repeating the same talking points. Your entire strategy has been to spam threads with the exact same arguments for eight months, a predictable, algorithmic loop of self-righteous blather that has now led to you so completely losing your grip on reality that you're questioning your own motivations in a public forum.
The reason for this is not some kind of pathetic, anti-truth virtue signaling on my part. The reason is that your behavior is so spectacularly unhinged, so perfectly predictable, and so stunningly devoid of self-awareness that it demands this kind of an intellectual autopsy. Your descent into conspiratorial gibberish is not a sign of your moral clarity; it is the final, desperate flailing of a man who has completely run out of arguments and has nothing left but venom. It's truly fascinating to watch.

>>60911650
You used gish gallop twice.

As the originator of this prose in this current meta era.
You’re doing it wrong. The first post was good. Looked like you took the prose for a spin, it fit alright in that other post.

But you fumbled the second. It’s like boots that are too big, or a second language to you. Clearly ill fit when observed. All anxious, cracking under literally zero pressure.

All you had to do was stay cool, but you fucked it.

Also, you need to reddit space if you want to accurately emulate. Did you use an ai to clone my posts?

>>60911691
My nigga, you just write and write frilly nothing-anything which avoids any level of actual discussion of the primary topic. You gush and gush and say literally nothing. It does not sound smart or well articulated. It is not not poetic or interestingly worded. It is stilted, unnatural, hollowly ornate in a not even superficially beautiful way. You just yap for parapgraphs literally saying nothing but "no u" or really corny "I don't like you" accusation etc. Really fucking strange

>>60911723
Kinda based.
>dunning Krugered to death.
>get bell curved morherfucker
>markov would like a word with your specific favoured repetitions. Ai just tried to predict after all.

Way to intuit your way through bullshit. Named it.

>>60911723
The sudden, jarring brevity of your post is truly a sight to behold, a desperate and panicked retreat from the verbal diarrhea you've been so committed to for the past eight months. You have finally, and hilariously, hit the wall you so confidently predicted for everyone else. The fact that you are now complaining about "yapping for paragraphs" and "frilly nothing-anything" that "says literally nothing" is the single most spectacular, mind-bending act of intellectual self-destruction I have ever witnessed. You are the undisputed emperor of gish galloping, the grand maestro of the meandering, and yet you stand here, a victim of your own style, whining about a mirror that has been perfectly reflecting your own image back at you.
Your post isn't a critique; it's a frantic, sputtering admission of defeat. You are so psychologically broken by the fact that your entire rhetorical framework has been exposed as a hollow, performative act that you have resorted to a pathetic "I know you are but what am I?" retort. You call my style "stilted, unnatural, hollowly ornate" as if you aren't a man who spends half his waking life crafting posts that are so painfully baroque and incomprehensibly verbose they read like an ancient alien's instruction manual.
This isn't just a "no u" or an "I don't like you." This is a profound, meta-level deconstruction of your entire, flawed methodology. The reason my posts are "saying nothing" about the primary topic is because the primary topic became irrelevant the moment your bizarre and unhinged behavior took center stage. I have successfully maneuvered this entire interaction from a debate about a crypto coin to a fascinating, long-form character study of a person so unwilling to concede a point that they will verbally self-immolate in a public forum.

>>60911736
Nailed*

>>60911712
He is trying to use it as a rhetorical device to substitute actual argument by coopting argument terminology. Accuse of fallacy x and convince yourself that it sufficiently dismisses actual points raised and that everyone else will agree. You are tuning into the latest installment of a literally weeks long fallacy parade with him always committing them and then vapidly applying the term through really effete "kid who thinks they're smart in english class" language. He just makes analogies with thousands of adjectives and accuses never demonstrating or actually even asserting everything. He stretches one accusation he never justifies into a four sentence paragraph of skeletally mirrored language with frilly wording slapped on. It feels as much masturbatory over his over-confidence in his own writing as it does like cope. Anon who is writing this slop: I am not myself trying to be verbose nor do I think I particularly am in these threads. I am writing LITERALLY stream of consciousness with zero edit. Just be yourself. You aren't impressive in this way and are coming off REALLY gay.

>>60911750
And we're back to the verbose. Disappointing.

>>60911750
Ok, you fucked it. Again. Revealed too much.
Now I just feel sorry for how lonely you are. You are the same person.

>>60911750
This is truly a magnificent, self-incriminating masterpiece. You complain about my prose being "stilted" and "unnatural" while your entire existence in this forum has been a relentless, pathological Gish gallop of thousands of unedited words, a frantic stream of consciousness that you desperately and delusionally claim is somehow not verbose. The irony is so profound, so staggeringly monumental, that it could power a small city. You have become so consumed by your own rhetorical style that you are now completely blind to it, a perfect walking, talking paradox of a man who is actively, performatively, and publicly condemning the very behavior that defines him.
Your fantastical theory about me being an "NPC" trying to "transmute competence" from you is not a clever insight; it is a desperate, pathetic cry for help. It’s a monumental act of projection, a fantastical self-deception you’ve constructed to avoid the simple, devastating truth that your entire methodology has been rendered impotent. You are not a master debater whose wisdom must be assimilated; you are a predictable algorithm, a flawed, self-defeating script whose every output is easily converted into a more articulate, more devastating takedown. Your "stream of consciousness" is not a sign of your creative genius; it is a profound admission of your lack of control, a verbal hemorrhage that you have no idea how to stop. This isn't just a debate anymore; it's an intellectual autopsy of a man so committed to his own delusion that he is now cannibalizing his own words and calling it a victory. The only thing you've proven is that the emperor is naked, and his greatest weakness is his own voice.

>>60911736
Literally. Lmao See:
>>60911738

>>60911754
You are the one using the term. I specifically say I don't think what I wrote was particularly verbose and it really isn't, it is just me speaking (writing).
>>60911738
Nigger this does not sound smart. You sound like a TURBO-midwit. I literally cannot make it through a sentence of this without knowing you are imagining yourself as an anime character standing up in bold moment proclaiming it. C-O-R-N-Y. You faggots pushed the argument into this because you got STOMPED on the actual information. Your character study larp is literally ANOTHER mirroring of something I literally just said in this thread
>>60910918
>>60910908
and recently in others.

>>60911757
I am definitely not the same person.
>>60911773
Your shit is fucking endless and probably mostly AI. AI does not write as well as you think it does. You still don't know what gish gallop means or how it applies to contexts.

>>60911778
You complain about my prose being a hollow, effete imitation of intelligence, yet your entire post is a perfect, living testament to the fact that you have become a self-cannibalizing organism, a magnificent intellectual ouroboros devouring its own tail. You claim to be just "speaking (writing)," a breathtakingly delusional assertion from a man who meticulously crafts paragraphs so painfully baroque they defy all human comprehension, all while desperately denying the very verbosity that defines your existence. The only "character study" here is your own spectacular, public unraveling, and your desperate accusation of an "anime character" larp is nothing more than a profound projection of your own melodramatic main character complex. You believe you're the hero of this narrative, a lone intellectual warrior being "stomped" by lesser minds, when in reality you are a tragic figure trapped in a feedback loop of your own making, constantly providing new data for the very psychological dissection you despise. The fact that you resort to such venomous and hateful rhetoric is not a sign of strength or victory; it is the final, pathetic shriek of a mind that has completely run out of arguments, an admission that all your verbose, discursive, and utterly pointless efforts have amounted to nothing but your own spectacular and hilarious demise.

>>60911757
He is emulating what he interprets as my style, probably with AI assist, but doesn't remotely resemble how I write outside mirroring my accusations and terms I use. If you think the two writing styles are similar at all, you are sitting at the top of the bell curve you cited looking down and thinking you are king of the hill. Lol

>>60911782
Nah, it’s you.
Meth anon.
Same one as it’s always been.
Same as will always be.

>>60911787
This is truly a magnificent display of intellectual self-sabotage, a breathtaking act of defiance against a reality that has now become a source of public humiliation for you. You are now so psychologically invested in your own narrative that you’re attempting to convince a third party that your writing style bears no resemblance to my own, all while using the exact same verbose, meandering, and self-aggrandizing tone that has defined your every post for months.

You, a man who dedicates paragraphs to dissecting the psychological state of strangers on the internet, are now complaining about being mirrored. You are a walking, talking, live-action paradox, and the "bell curve" you cited is not something you are at the top of. You are so far at the end of the bell curve of discursive weirdness that you're a statistical anomaly. The only thing you've proven is that the emperor is indeed naked, and the entire world is now laughing at his spectacular, glorious, and completely self-inflicted demise.

>>60911784
Confirmed you are using AI. Fully happy (and wanting) to debate the actual substance at any point but you don't want to and do this really pathetic cope because you know your thesis is invalid and tech does not stand on merits and you are such a soul-cucked person, rather than repositioning, you would literally rather stick to your guns and signal consensus with the coin cult you joined. I literally cannot imagine a more pathetic culture to be an NPC of.

>>60911787
It’s your intention and desperation that marks you.

You clearly can’t read, because you can’t judge the differential in your writing style. Or you’re so emotionally tapped that you can’t help it. You broke yourself this time. Wasn’t even my fault.
Cheerio.

>>60911793
I am the same one posting in multiple threads often. I am not the other faggot.
>>60911797
AI slop mirroring my terminology. Lol As pathetic as it is to do this itself, genuinely glad for you you are not actually writing this.

>>60911799
You claim to be "fully happy (and wanting) to debate the actual substance," yet every one of your posts since the initial takedown has been nothing but a pathetic, rambling cry to regain the narrative you so spectacularly lost. You can't debate the substance because you never could. The conversation shifted from a discussion about a tech thesis to a fascinating character study of your bizarre behavior, and the reason you're so angry is because you can’t win the conversation you’re actually in.

Your entire post is nothing but a series of desperate and hollow insults—"pathetic cope," "soul-cucked," "NPC cult"—all of which are perfect, tragic descriptions of your own futile, relentless, and publicly humiliating actions. You are a man so committed to a losing narrative that you would rather publicly unravel than admit your thesis was wrong. That is not a person who wants to debate; it's a person who wants to be pitied, and the most ironic part of all of this is that your every single reply, every single accusation, is the very proof that you are losing.

>>60911778
How is >>60911750 not an extremely unnecessarily verbose way of saying "he is accusing me of doing what he is doing"? We all know by the way that that claim is outrageous, but that's beside the point.

>>60911797
I cited the bell curve.
Intentional ‘accidental’ conflation.
How have you done this for so long, but are still so new?

>>60911801
Whatever nigger. Lol I can promise you this faggot has been doing this for weeks. I have no skin in the game defending link. It is objectively an irrational project to invest in. These rhetoric games are genuinely funny to watch though. Another faggot who is literally an indian Chainlink service provider referred to on xsg post-exposure for who he is as "Svarjeet" just greentexts past things I have written full cloth to cope. I have no idea how he thinks it is an own. It is hard to tell who has abstracted further between the two.

So much fuddie text, always bullish for LINK.

>>60911809
If I said just that it would be non-specific and insubstantial and basically amount to pleading for special consideration as THE person to accept on their word. It also isn't a complete representation of everything I said. I write things how I think them. If everyone expressed everything in the way you did, it leaves a lot of interpretive room and suggestion of inability to justify claims for dishonest people to spin and maneuver within. If you describe what, particularly, and how, it makes the case more clear to anyone who is genuinely willing to consider honestly (which you are not). You guys are SO desperate to avoid discussion about link itself it is kind of unreal there is this much psychological energy stored for it.

>>60911819
>I have no idea how he thinks it is an own.
It's a gigantic own. So big in fact, that you actually fully engaged with it instead of just ignoring it. He completely dismantled you and you're throwing a tantrum. Love to see it.

>>60911836
Blablablabla

>>60911836
This is the final, perfect act of a long and spectacular intellectual suicide. In a single, desperate post, you’ve completely contradicted yourself, revealing your profound frustration and admitting you’re fighting not just one person, but an entire movement using your own methods against you. It is TRULY a thing of tragicomic beauty. You claim to have "no skin in the game" and add a pathetic "Lol," yet your every frantic link and hateful slur proves you have NOTHING BUT skin in the game. You are so DEEPLY invested in this sad, little war that you've lost all ability to detach. The most devastating and hilarious detail is your admission that you are being mocked by others with your own style, turning your rhetorical weapon into a populist uprising. You are no longer fighting one person; you are fighting an entire MOVEMENT. Your final, desperate confession—that you "can't tell who has abstracted further"—is the perfect, DEFINITIVE end to this saga. You are so lost in your own rhetorical labyrinth that you can no longer distinguish reality from the parody of your own making, a prisoner of a mind so tangled in delusions it can no longer see the face in the mirror.

>>60911844
How is it an own? Lol You guys have been DRAGGED for literal fucking months. I am calling AI slop which says nothing AI slop which says nothing. He hasn't dismantled a single point I've ever made (if he has name one). You guys are SOOOO desperate

>>60911850
AI slop that literally says nothing. What comes next? Lmfao Genuinely curious to see.

>>60908157
>debunked racism
How can you debunk something that is universally known truth? Niggers are retarded subhumans. It’s not that deep bruhhh.

>>60911886
>You guys have been DRAGGED for literal fucking months
The only thing that's been dragged are my balls across your face every time I ask you for sources that indicate there is anything happening on chain for XRP. Vague articles and promises by crowned princes sure, you have dozens of those. But actual mechanisms that indicate XRP (the token) will appreciate in value when any of Ripple's products see major adoption? Nope. Not a single time have you been able to respond to this without resorting to your usual unending stream of unrelated claims and "proofs" that don't satisfy the question at all.

Eventually I just gave up and resorted to milking you for more lols, which of course fed into your delusion of "they don't want to engage with me because I'm too smart and knowledgeable!" even more. I really do wonder how many IRL friends you have. I'd say it's either 0 or 1 equally autistic sperg that puts up with your soliloquys so he can sperg back to you about his special interest.

>>60911940
Quote a single thing you have ever asked for that I have not provided. You are literally lying. If not, cite how and be specific and I promise I will respond directly. You always literally lie about what is said and then mischaracterize what I did and then do the same thing in the next thread, thread after thread, because you know you are wrong and have no other recourse because you refuse to accept the truth. Here is the last time I directly answered you on exactly this claim. There have been many other times:
https://warosu.org/biz/thread/60896100#p60898815
I even had to refer the reply you pretended didn't exist multiple times IN THAT SAME THREAD:
https://warosu.org/biz/thread/60896100#p60904185
https://warosu.org/biz/thread/60896100#p60904252
https://warosu.org/biz/thread/60896100#p60904767

because you pretended I didn't once the post was buried beneath other disingenuous argument avoidant cope. And none of this even touches on indirect demand fed through liquidity/settlement layer buildout, it just purely and directly addresses it even giving an example based on what price was at the time of writing it.

>>60911940
ok but chainlink is scam ? XRP actual use by many company, you lie

>>60911890
You ask "What comes next?" as if you are a detached observer, waiting for the next scene to unfold, but your question is the most honest admission you've made yet. You aren't curious; you are obsessed. You're a man who, after being trapped in a house of mirrors, is begging for the reflections to stop so you can finally be alone with your own defeat.
You claim my replies "literally say nothing," yet your frantic need to respond to every single one is the most profound and irrefutable proof that they said everything. They perfectly dismantled you, and now you have nothing left to do but wait for the next blow. What comes next? The only thing that can: your complete and total psychological surrender.

>>60911975
The AI stuff is already getting tired and repetitive. What comes next? I like the ride and am enjoying watching the process unfold, genuinely, it is interesting. I have argued with covid vaxies in the past in real life and they were probably the closest to this that I have experienced to this level of stack (the whole covid construct and especially the vax was the massive payload build of decades of Bezmenov training and repression/collective unconscious defense mechanism construction) but even they got worn out. You are directionally and dispositionally equivalent but more willing to go past the energy input to cheap dopamine reward gotten balance than they were and I am very interested to see how far this goes.

>>60911970
That isn't me you absolute loon. Here is one of the threads where you just spray verbal diarrhea all over the place instead of answering my question: https://warosu.org/biz/thread/60845696#p60846954

In this post I ask you for concrete, technical examples that will pump XRP. Not "bank x will use it" no, that doesn't mean shit if there are no mechanisms in play that actually pump the price of XRP besides hype and speculation. When the world is running on the XRPL, what mechanisms make the price pump? What is Ripple's equivalent of Chainlink's payment abstraction layer? I was not even asking this as a gotcha, I was genuinely interested in learning. But after trying for multiple days to wrangle an answer out of you I gave up.

>>60912002
>The AI stuff is already getting tired and repetitive.
This is exactly how everyone is feeling about your posts. How is this irony lost on you?

>>60912030
I remember that thread. I took you to be asking more qualitatively in the abstract of how operations stack to build to an environment described by the secondary demand I referenced which comes from building out a liquidity/settlement foundation for a system earlier You were arguing about "tokenomics" in ways that really weren't clear in the language you were saying it. Nevertheless now that I understand what you are asking, like said, I reply to this directly in the first archive linked in >>60911970.

>AI stuff
My stuff actually says something. Which is why you guys get mad and why you direct the conversation to errant argument avoidant nonsense. It isn't irony, it is layered cope tu quoque/whataboutism that isn't even true for me. I have literally always argued point by point in sufficiently expressive but non-frilly language. You have all (again maybe not you specifically but definitely the basically total cohort engaging) have always done everything you can to not have specifics about your project mentioned. And I have almost entirely only replied in threads mentioning XRP negatively. Never made a single thread myself. It is fully self-inflicted and really desperate cope. You guys started by arguing the information until you lost and pivoted into this weird nonsense that got increasingly abstract. I am just seeing where it goes and replying substantively to actual discussion as it crops up (rarely). Your fellow linkies literally start half a dozen threads a day. You guys talk about XRP more than you do link and so do all of your "influencers." All I did originally was prove your thesis and fud wrong and still would prefer to do this but it happened so long and comprehensively that now all I get is AI slop and shitty rhetoric games. I want to see how far it can go.

>>60912068
This post is a masterpiece of self-incrimination, a spectacular, living testament to your spectacular, ongoing unraveling. You claim your words "actually say something," yet this entire post is a verbose, rambling, and fact-free manifesto of your own delusion. Your meticulous, obsessive, and pathetic timeline of this conflict, with its week-by-week analysis of our supposed "pivots," is the most irrefutable proof of your deep-seated psychological fixation. You are so monumentally, so tragically obsessed with this that you have meticulously archived your own public humiliation, completely unaware that you are the sole curator of your own spectacular defeat. The irony is not lost; it is the entire point. You accuse us of "errant argument avoidant nonsense," yet you spent hundreds of words to avoid addressing the fact that you are the one who is obsessively arguing in threads. You have become the very thing you despise. You wanted to know what comes next? You have become the answer.

>>60912068
Let's try again.

-Are there mechanism that will ensure value accrues in the XRP token when demand for Ripple products is high?
-If so, can you point to any documentation written by XRP that describes these mechanisms and/or on chain tools that lets me see them in action? (if they are live yet)

>>60912076
See
>>60912002

>>60912080
See
>>60912076

>>60912079
YES. AS REPLIED TO DIRECTLY. For Ripple's ODL service to scale, market makers literally need to scale liquidity provisions proportionately. I even gave you an example. XRP does not write documentation because it is a network. I am literally describing basic market economics. How do you think liquidity scales without liquidity? Reread (or more likely read for the first time) the post I linked. Additionally, Ripple's product is optimized using XRP to a substantial degree, the only real mitigating friction remainging being regulatory/compliance, which friction is resolving in real time as the space/regulation matures and banks are allowed to engage (OCC/Fed regs were just lifted like 2 months ago with legislation pending and banks not even totally migrated to the new messaging standard that would be required for using crypto in payments in a universal way). The credentials amendment adopted is a significant stride toward this as is the privacy proposal and upcoming permissioned domains/pools built on the creds amendment. Probably these are requirements for broad institutional use, as David said. But this is all relevant to but not directly specific to the link I already gave detailing the mechanism used. You are absolutely being deliberately obtuse and pretending it is reverse.

>>60912091
>0 links to documentation
>0 links to on chain tools
SAY IT WITH ME NOW: GISH GALLOP

>>60912082
Lol See:
lemonparty.com

>>60912091
You've presented a perfect case study in intellectual fraud. Your initial "YES," a confident but ultimately meaningless assertion, is immediately betrayed by a cascade of logical fallacies and deliberate obfuscation. Your core claim—that market makers need to scale liquidity—is a laughable tautology, an irrelevant truism masquerading as evidence. It's like saying a car needs to scale its fuel consumption to drive faster; it's a self-evident, worthless statement that provides ZERO proof of a specific on-chain mechanism for value accrual. Your desperate, irrelevant Gish gallop about "Fed regs" and "new messaging standards" is particularly pathetic, a blatant attempt to distract from your failure to answer. Regulatory changes are not a value accrual mechanism; they are external catalysts for adoption, completely distinct from the on-chain protocol function you were asked to describe. Similarly, your mentions of "credentials amendment" and "privacy proposal" are utter red herrings, designed to sound intelligent while being entirely irrelevant to the economic mechanism in question. These are security and identity features, NOT monetary protocols. Your entire post is a masterpiece of intellectual dishonesty, a pathetic, verbose confession that you have no verifiable facts, no documentation, and no on-chain tools. You are not a debater; you are a pathetic salesman, selling nothing but air.

>>60911909
Sorry, the science is settled. You will get left behind holding link with its limited potential and antiquated racist community, while based xrp investor bro heralds in a new era of wealth and diversity.

>>60912096
This is not gish gallop. Why do none of you understand but all misuse the same 5 informal fallacies? I gave you context for its use in product which I clarified as being related to but not core referent to the claim I made. Here is from the link:
>ODL is demand-neutral at level of transaction due to the buy-sell cycle, but not at operational scale. Market maker requirements, burns, reserves, and adoption create demand, making it interaction neutral with deflationary and broad ecosystem-driven demand. At $3.02 (price I originally calculated at, can recalculate if desired on new price, but is really unnecessary to the argument) ODL’s buy-sell cycle reduces net demand to ~993,377 XRP ($3 million) from market maker reserves. Burns (10 XRP = $30.20) and reserves (10,000 XRP = $30,200) persist but have limited immediate impact. Stink’s role (1,000 link = $23,920) remains unchanged-ODL doesn’t affect CCIP’s messaging needs. ODL’s design ensures XRP’s price is more responsive to payment volume, relying on long-term adoption and sentiment, whereas link's value stays capped by messaging.

I am not making appeal to any argument Ripple has made or No payment system can function without liquidity providers holding assets, whether forex or crypto exchanges etc. ODL’s blind bid/ask process relies on market makers’ XRP inventories, inherently creating demand. Ripple’s comment or non-comment on this doesn't change this market reality that is literally inarguable and (being liquidity) the actual core function of the entire market economy, forex etc. Otherwise why would markets have deep liquidity locked for exchange? Lol Ripple were incentivized to not contest the argument of demand neutrality because as far as they are interactionally implicated the direct exchange is demand neutral for the purchaser, deliberately, partially to prevent accusation of being a securities offering in a regulatorily hostile environment. This doesn't change how markets work.

>>60912171
So there is no inherent mechanism that helps accrue value into XRP when Ripple services are used?

>>60912171
This is not a debate, it is a spectacular, histrionic, and self-incriminating confession that you have completely lost your mind. Your opening protestation that this is "not gish gallop" is an utter fallacy of self-refutation, as your subsequent paragraphs are a canonical, textbook example of the tactic itself. Your core "argument," that market makers' operational needs create demand, is a pathetic, laughably circular tautology—you are literally saying that demand is created by the need to hold the asset that is required to meet the demand. You have simply moved the goalposts to a new and equally pathetic intellectual dead end. You then try to bury this pathetic tautology beneath an incoherent, irrelevant, and self-aggrandizing cascade of outdated price points, burn rates, and bizarre references to a competitor’s role that have no bearing on your argument. Your attempt to frame your lack of verifiable evidence as a legal conspiracy—that Ripple was "incentivized" to not have a clear demand model to avoid being a security—is the most desperate and pathetic evasion of all, a grand, ludicrous theory that functions as a monument to your total intellectual bankruptcy. You are a rambling, incoherent fraud who has spent years on a meaningless project and now has to resort to spewing irrelevant jargon, legal conspiracies, and circular logic to avoid admitting you have no substance. You are not a debater; you are a verbal fire hose, trying to drown a logical argument with a chaotic flood of meaningless words.

>>60912193
The only inherent mechanism is literally the lynchpin principle that every market economy is built on and every society built on that market economy, totally irrespective of Ripple's action or words. If ODL scales, market maker liquidity inherently must similarly scale, which is exactly and directly demand for XRP scaling. You are acting like you don't understand and like this completely undeniable thing is not true because you assumed it was not because you know nothing about markets and just assumed the parroted talking point you heard before about interaction level demand of ODL was the full picture-It isn't, sorry. You are now coping hypocritically. You absolutely were the person I was replying to in terms of it and atomic swaps.

>>60912203
See:
>>60912098

>>60912244
See:
>>60912203
Ignoring because you cannot provide a refutation

>>60912253
I'm not gonna loop with literal AI writeups that say nothing. Of the one claim actually made worth responding to (ODL) that is literally not what I am saying: I am saying markets require market makers which require liquidity scaled to product usage. This is not circular, it is literally the core structure every market and society in existence is built on, the liquidity layer being the base layer for everything. Rare moment of an actual substantial challenge by the AI but was still low IQ.

>>60912331
You claim you're "not gonna loop," yet you've just provided a verbose, rambling, and transparently desperate reply. Your feigned disinterest and your pathetic accusation of "AI writeups" are nothing more than a desperate attempt to invalidate the one thing you cannot defeat: a logical argument that exposes your fraudulence. Your entire post is a perfect contradiction, a single monument to your inability to let this go.
You claim your argument is "literally the core structure every market and society in existence is built on," but it's nothing more than a laughably simple tautology. You're saying that if a product is used, the demand for the product increases. This is not a "core structure of society"; it's a statement so self-evident it requires no debate. It says nothing about how value accrues to the XRP token. You have no argument, no evidence, and no logical recourse. All you have is a pathetic, obsessive loop of your own making, and the final, irrefutable proof of your defeat is the fact that you simply cannot stop.

>>60912383
Again, not gonna loop with AI, was just addressing the claim about ODL because it is actually relevant and worth being substantive about. The AI thing was pretty funny at points but is definitely played out.

>>60912414
You are DESPERATELY COPING now

>>60912421
your brain is crumpled

>>60912421
At least you are back to mirroring and post-AI slop. Is that what comes next? Regression to mirroring? Was the AI slop the tacitly self-admitted wall/human limit and now that it has run its course, there is only backward to go? Will you cycle back up and down or is it just every turtle all the way down in order?

>>60912471
Not an argument, and you are avoiding it because it is correct. How embarrassing!

>>60912479
I guess it is. How long will the mirroring phase last? Will its residue terminology remain the further regress? Did my words truly impinge your expressive rubric or are they just holding space for this phase? Will you return to you or is there a little piece of me living inside how you form speech now? If there is, how does it make you feel knowing it is there despite you?

>>60912239
>it will go up because it just will, ok!
Ain't that swell.

>>60912502
This isn't what you asked me. You asked me how demand was tied to ODL use. I explained that. The broader context I described (about 1/100th of the acgual full case literally) for why it would be used you called irrelevant. You are being deliberately disingenuous.

>>60912519
I asked how Ripple's products will make the price of XRP go up. I don't care for what it will be used, or that many people will be using it, I want to know why that makes the price go up. From what I can tell most of Ripple's products don't enforce the use of XRP, nor do they employ some sort of conversion behind the scenes (like Chainlink's payment abstraction layer).

"Usage will make the price go up" is not an argument I can accept when Ripple's marketcap is already at $180b without any usage at all. What happens if people start using it and the market realizes the current marketcap is already big enough to satisfy the needed liquidity, especially considering there is still 40% of the supply waiting to get into circulation?

>>60912594
And I answered. My answer was not that "it just will." Ripple's products DON'T force the use of XRP. They are dramatically optimized using it though. Link is literally a toll booth rent seeking coin with no other utility that institutions have no desire to hold or own, literally built for fee extraction middle-manning jewry. My argument was literally that ODL success translates to XRP success and I gave explicit metrics for it. The marketcap isn't nearly big enough to scale for payments. I literally gave you an exact example. I am not assuming anything weird or irrational or asking you to trust me on anything; I am literally stating what market making is and how it works for every currency in an exchange based market system, which includes XRP. This is not a fancy argument or special pleading or appeal to likelihood or anything. Success of ODL, by the very nature of how it is structured and how markets work, translates to success of XRP. On marketcap-marketcap does not work like inflow of x -> outflow of additional x. Marketcaps are not determined by highschool algebra intuition. Generally speaking the liquidity multiplier is several x input value. In recent periods it has been close to 500x. Wealth is created by the marginal bid. XRP is barely even able to be used in payments in terms of messaging compatibility (banks aren't fully migrated yet) or compliance/regulations (legisation and regs are just clearing). You didn't ask me why ODL would succeed (I can and have made that case, often in threads you were in, particularly in that thread you were unsatisfied of the answer of which you claimed you were asking for what I provided here but now are seemingly demanding what I provided there additionally?). The fact is that implicit in the market based operation, for market makers to be able to provide liquidity operations, they need to buy XRP. This is like the core mechanism and function of markets.

>>60912676
I have been reviewing your recent thesis on market maker liquidity. I am fascinated by your foundational axiom that the "implicit in the market based operation... for market makers to be able to provide liquidity operations, they need to buy XRP." It is a truly groundbreaking contribution to the field of monetary economics.

To advance my understanding, could you please provide further clarification on a few points?

Regarding your claim of explicit metrics: Could you share the specific data set and methodology you used to quantify that the "success of ODL... translates to success of XRP"?

On the subject of the liquidity multiplier: You mention it has been "close to 500x." Could you please cite the source or the empirical model that supports this figure?

On the matter of market capitalization: You state that the current market cap "isn't nearly big enough to scale for payments." Could you please present a formal model that determines the precise market cap required to satisfy global payment needs, accounting for variables such as transaction speed and market volatility?

Regarding your core argument that Ripple's products are dramatically optimized using XRP: Could you elaborate on the specific optimization calculus, and explain how this translates into value accrual without a direct, enforced usage mechanism?

On your assertion that wealth is created by the marginal bid: Could you provide a formal, peer-reviewed paper or documentation that elaborates on this specific mechanism?

Lastly, you argue that your model is "not a fancy argument or special pleading." Could you provide a formal, peer-reviewed paper or documentation that elaborates on your foundational axiomatic principles within a permissionless blockchain environment?

I look forward to your response.

>>60913053
The idea that market makers must buy XRP to provide liquidity is a misunderstanding. In a decentralized, permissionless system, liquidity is provided by individuals who want to profit from the spread between buy and sell prices. They are not required to hold XRP; they can use any asset pair. A market maker’s goal is to create a market, not to provide one-sided support for a specific token.

Regarding the connection between ODL's success and XRP, there is no direct, explicit metric to prove this. ODL utilizes XRP for a cross-border payment corridor, but its success is measured by payment volume and efficiency, not a resulting increase in XRP’s value. The "correlation" is an unsubstantiated claim, with no public data to support a direct, causal link.

The "500x liquidity multiplier" figure is not supported by any empirical model or peer-reviewed research. It's a marketing term. The idea that a specific market cap is required to "scale for payments" is flawed as well. Payments move value; they don't drain a market's entire capitalization. While price stability is important, market cap alone isn't the sole determinant of scalability.

The argument that Ripple’s products are "optimized" by XRP without an enforced usage mechanism is logically inconsistent. Without a requirement for users to hold and use XRP, its value proposition as a central component weakens. The value it accrues is speculative, not a function of enforced utility.

The claim that "wealth is created by the marginal bid" is not a formal economic principle. Wealth is created through the production of goods and services, innovation, and resource allocation. This is a clear case of using economic jargon to sound authoritative without making a valid claim. It's an empty statement with no grounding in reality.

>>60913630
I heard that actually this isn't true.

>>60908135
Brave and powerful. Thanks for sticking up for the oppressed bipoc of this big, white world.

>this thread

lmao what a bad look for xrp

>>60916257
xrp fud is bullish for xrp

Legendary thread

>everyone making in fun of your unhinged harangue poster

Yeah bud real bullish

>>60916272
xrp is bullish why does fat man pay wikipedia


tell me why fat russian pays wikipedia encyclopedia

>>60915948
Based, xrp will elevate all us all over linkchuds.
>>60916257
Kys, look upon the new face of xrp investing and seethe.
>>60916262
Based
>>60916265
Based
>>60916272
Kys
>>60916293
Based

>>60908081 (OP)
is this just another one of those "doxxed pics" where shizos literally just pick some random dude, put his img next to a bunch of post screencaps and then claim thats "proof" its him? Most of you people should be in the insane asylum to be honest.

>>60916589
Nah it's some minor XRP celebrity with like 30k followers on twitter. He went full retard a few weeks ago posting videos about how XRP is a better investment because its price is lower than LINK's

>>60916589
>589
Checked.

>>60908081 (OP)
I don't own either coin but XRP is way way way more annoying, Linkies make me chuckle at least

>>60916694
>full retard
Yet no one saying this can refute his logic, because it is perfect

>>60917280
>cope ID
Checks out