Thread 60929574

Goat edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://etfdb.com/

>Gambling
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

>Misc smg:
https://www.financialjuice.com/home
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates
https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits

Previous: >>60928142

Why didn't you listen to me about Dell?

Tomorrow Red friday

MY HIGH TESTOSTERONE CAUSES ME TO MAKE RISKY PLAYS
IM SHORTING THE MARKET
HHHHRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

Do you guys target specific industries or just buy whatever a/smg/ tells you to?

I'm a mining stock man myself, largest position was a rugpulled Freeport-McMoRan (FCX) but we're up 8% now
Ramaco (METC) did me well but it's slipping

>Paramount Skydance Prepares Ellison-Backed Bid for Warner Bros. Discovery
Interdasting

>took profit on WMT calls
>bought CPER calls
>bought CORN calls

>>60929600
oracle will be the juiciest short of 2027

>>60929601
son of a bitch i sold my CPER calls at a loss last month. if i held them to now i would have broke even

>>60929589
I dream that one day I'll be the forests top bear, better than burry. I find stocks with high rsi and way above MA to short them back where they belong. Without me, the market wouldn't make any sense and GME would be $500 for no good reason

>>60929600
God fucking damnit. Was looking at buying this very closely last couple weeks and decided not to. Oh well.

>>60929582
Also I sold all my Dell today. I'll buy back maybe tomorrow or Monday.

>Recurring transfer to Roth IRA and SGOV go through today
It's also payday and my checking account balance is $1,776
God bless America

There were signs

DING DING DING DING DING

How did it go today?!?!

fuck i should’ve impulse bought SPX 6590p twenty seconds to close. shoutout to that subminute drop

>>60928659
Don't worry Bocchi sis, when you don't have to be a wagie they'll either seethe or beg you to teach them or beg for money (and seethe if you say no) or hopefully accept they lost and you won and they all get along with you. But at least no more waging is needed.

>>60929628
+1.56% over here
Rolled some calls out and sold some 1dte puts to goombling addicts

>>60929602
it's larry's son. nothing to do with oracle

>>60929628
Today: +0.82%
This Week: +3.27%
This Month: +3.85%
This Year: -31.39%

decent i guess

>>60929628
-0.6%
Bought the Unity top with half my balance. We'll see how it goes

>>60929628
Less than +0.5%

>>60929589
Just get whatever is a good buy in an industry that's growing. I've bought into rocketlab at 40 cause they have a clear business that will actually work, same with uranium mining

>>60929628
-0.09% because of motherfucking AMD

>>60929628
+4.97%. It was a great day :)

>>60929628
+2.04%
Week: +4.86%

81% metal miners 19% other
ready for a red friday

you know how sometimes you place a massive bet (more than half portfolio) on a nano cap and things are going better than expected and you suddenly become richer than you expected faster than you expected and you all just have to take it in a bit so you just stare at the screen and do nothing and just go about your week waiting for it to sink in?
that happened to me this week

adbe results must have leaked

>>60929656
Doesn't happen because god hates me and wants me to suffer

>>60929628
Up 0.88%, so pretty content with that
>>60929639
You're coming back, anon!

>>60929659
What do you mean. They were supposed to be released today?

>>60929628
Imma be real I lost 8% on uvix but im.gonna short SPY next week or maybe the week after

>>60929656
Can't say I know that feel, no

>>60929668
i wasn't expecting them to release the results right at the bell

>>60929670
am also down 8% on uvix

>>60929628
Up 1-3% across the board in PMs, down a few % on VIX
I hate thursday because it means one more day until the weekend (boring)

>>60929628
+1%

>>60929653
I hope so I need to reload.

>>60929678
Shorting is better than uvix. At least I can control the decay/risk by choosing my expiration.

Thank you, David Soxl.

Another 300 made today (0.6%) from doing nothing except picking the right stocks and ETFs. When Septembear is over it will be a veritable bonanza.

>keep seeing the 'daq and SPX going steadily upwards throughout the day, reaching new ATHs
>come home and see that my TSM, Nnigger and META are all flat

>>60929589
I don't target specifics but I avoid some
all the meme and overhyped ones
so basically anything AI is a must avoid from me

>>60929692
Options will always be superior for that.
I wonder how many people understand the greeks vs not

Like India does a ton of option volume via Jane Street, like 80% or something. How much is 0dte gambling?

>>60929701
Septembear was delayed to October btw

>>60929701
Congrats anon

>>60929704
My AI exposure is from PMs and materials needed for buildout

>green Monday
>green Tuesday
>green Wednesday
>green Thursday

The last 6 or 7 Fridays in a row have all been dogshit.
Likely some FOOLS cashing out to spend their MEAGRE gains on their femoids like a bunch of losers.
Do I check out and reinvest on Monday bros?

>>60929628
3%, highest earner is 16%

>>60929714
I don't even understand that thought process as you'd have to get the money in your account somehow, and how can you transfer within the same trading day?

>>60929721
I can just hold it in cash on Trading212

Does hood not let you do that?

>>60929723
I use Schwab but yeah I can hold it cash too. I was interpreting what you said as actually cashing out and not conceptually doing it by spending the realized gains on something

>>60929628
+$898.43 (+0.78%)
I got lucky my real estate really took off today. Best was industrial

i'm bullish on cattle

>>60929746
carlos!

good haul today

>>60929764
how do you acquire such gains

>>60929770
gamblers fallacy
the level of greed you need to hold that long means they will never get enough to cash out

its the reason you see options fags go to insane levels like 3 million and not sell
if they were a reasonable person it wouldn't get where close to that

what's the deal with schizo price fluctuations at japanese companies?

>>60929777
tbf if I went from $10k to a milly, you'd assume you've cracked the infinite money glitch
can understand why they crumble

I want a humble +30%/yr.

TSLA +6% because why the fuck not?

Days like this make me want to blow my brains out for being half cash

>>60929791
>Elon does a silly doge meme 3 years ago
>TSLA plummets

>Elon obsessively tweets about black crime statistics for a whole week
>TSLA soars

what happened ?

>>60929628
did quite good today how about yourself?

>>60929791
Bank of America bros WTF was that?!?!!!! I thought I was going to be fucking rich.

>>60929782
>30%
>humble

>>60929574 (OP)
That's a woman

>>60929660
This but it’s our fault shut the fuck up you little bitch

>>60929803
it soared AGAIN?
fugg
Usually when it soars insanely there's a dip the day after (see: Oracle)
missed that train
damn

>>60929628
+1.49%

If the supreme court declares tariffs illegal by executive action, which kinda seems likely, won't the market fucking sky rocket?

>>60929628
+.99% in the gambling port
+.68% in the index port

>>60929836
No nobody knows what’s happening now and nobody will know what’s happening then

Should I capitulate and close my short?

>>60929836
>seems likely
Anon, the 7 to 4 decision was 6 dem appointees and 1 republicuck. The 4 against were all Republicans. The supreme Court is 6 repubs and 3 Dems. At worst it'll be a split decision with no refunds.

why didn't you trust Buffet /smg/?
If you just copied him investing in UnitedHealth you'd be rich by now

>>60929845
would you rather close or be liquidated
or add significantly more margin to weather it out

>>60929849
I got psyopped by you niggers and sold The Bottom if you must know
>t

>>60929846
one of the dissenting votes was a democrat appointee iirc

>>60929845
Bloody Friday baby, it's certain

>>60929856
oh dear oh dear lad
deary deary DEARY me

>>60929845
I would ask what you’re shorting but you options retards just do soxl and soxs don’t u

>>60929869
https://youtube.com/shorts/ySPscgs3ErM?si=egNwlLiYzgIWGF4U

>>60929836
Priced in

>>60929797
Its ok man im up 50 cents, up 0.1%
Hate it given everyone else is green

>>60929849
Berkshire unloaded half the position already. United's footprint is shrinking and they will have antitrust issues in 2 years. Revenue down, earnings flat.

>listening to adobe earnings call
>ceo
>sounds like a fucking IT help-line worker
>look into every tech company
>all indian ceos

Our entire technological base is now reliant about a culture of scammers and rapists, I hope the boomers invest into Adobe because of AI so I don’t have any part of this shit world

>>60929883
Dude what are you like 500 bucks full port into Ford Motors or some shit

>>60929896
There is hope

>>60929829
the kraken has been released for real this time brother - there is still time to get in though!

>one of my stocks soared by 7% today after crabbing for a whole month

patience my friends
is a virtue

>>60929911
certainly not immediately after an 8% day
we'll see on Monday though

>>60929918
>patience my friends
>is a virtue
Yes, I've been waiting all these years for my real life to start
Some day it will happen

>>60929924
Ten drops milk of the poppy

>>60929924
Same. I'm 29 and I've done basically nothing with my life. But I'm sure my real life will start very soon

>>60929845
Just do what Warren Buffett would do and say fuck it, I'll let the casino close it for me

When will GALT halt?

>>60929947
you mean GALacTic? never

>>60929932
Same same. I'm not doing anything that will change my life, but I'm assuming something will drop from the sky and change it for me.

>>60929845
Trump presidency Trump market movements.

>>60929987
>>60929996
i guess this
https://openai.com/index/joint-statement-from-openai-and-microsoft/

Ok niggers, let's assume bears are correct, stagflation is coming, fed cuts are bearish, and we are looking at a deep and rough recession. What tickers go up in this scenario?

>>60929628
Good day, +1.02%, 55% cash still.

>>60929968
>>60929932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h076DeX_Z-o

>>60929947
it will moon to $150 because i sold below $3

We shit on Indians and Mexicans... but maybe they're onto something?

>>60930019
>What tickers go up in this scenario?
Rope manufacturer tickers

>>60930019
KLAR

XTRAF ripped a little into close one volume, feeling good about that buy.

>>60929896
Look how much of logistics is curryniggers (US and CA)
Remember the farm protests in India a few years ago? Collectively, they wanted to stop transport here to raise awareness. If bad actors ordered it, the country would come to a halt

>>60930039
if I lived at home I would have never grown the discipline to save and invest, and I wouldn't have the same job opportunities

>>60930039
This is true. Families should pool resources and support eachother. Owning a house on a 25y mortgage is a western meme.
The only reason I have 100k to my name is because of saving most of my money by renting from a brother in law for 10 years

>>60930061
That a you problem, but if you were saving and investing at that time you would probably we way farther ahead.

>>60930070
it's so dependent on a lot of factors, for me living at home was hell and I also had to deal with drug addict family. I'm doing way better on my own. regardless most 18-25 year olds aren't going to have the discipline to invest, they're going to be chasing pussy and cars. If I had a kid I'd let them live at home but make them pay rent and save it for them and not tell them

>>60930039
Would rather kms than be a neet who can't cook when I'm fucking 30 tbdesu

>>60930019
Bonds did pretty good during the great depression. 4.3% unemployment is hardly a recession. It will take a long time for that number to be a new recession.
>tldr: buy Dell

>>60930019
This one *unzips*

>>60930019
We already told you >>60929625

I expect a market pull back for profit taking tomorrow. Dell might got back to $122. If so I'll be buying back in.

>>60930205
Kek

This next trade could take me out the game but mama didn't raise no bitch

>>60930231
nah, if they call me to fight in a war i´ll do it the english way, i already have a designated hooker that will give me an STD. that way i can buy enough time to fuck off to Brasil where i have some family

>>60930243
of course, i already said it before, but i wouldn't mind going provided i was allowed to commit war crimes, such as razing, looting and enslaving

>>60930234
see you in the WOLF den brother

>>60930247
That would be nice to be able to take home a slave for winning a war

>>60930253
that would be secondary to me, i'd like to bring home some Fabergé eggs or some paintings, like that one when czar Peter is holding is dead son which he killed, and mostly, desecrate Lenin's corpse and burn down the red square

>>60930264
>Peter
*Ivan the terrible

Are you guys longing bonds yet?

>>60930284
bonds are for old people

>>60930284
bonds are for old people

>>60930288
>>60930291
I agree, but that's not what I meant. I think you're still new to the game.

>>60930299
the floor is yours, old anon

>>60930310
Like anything in life, you can leverage the shit out of the movements.
Bond yields go down?
The value of CURRENT bonds go up.

You leverage the difference. TLT if you're a pussy, TMF if you've got balls. I think 20 year yields will drop to 3%. Gonna be a bumpy road but that SHOULD be a 1.8-2.3x on TMF. Could be way more, but I plan on selling after 2x~ because I'm not super greedy.

I believe this will be the last week to get a good entry point.

>>60930284
nice bait

>>60930284
my grandpa is 86 and he doesn't own any bonds, who is still buying bonds?

>>60930362
>>60930352
I SAID LONGING. LONGING BONDS. BOND LEVERAGE.
GOD DAMMIT IM GOING TO GO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

Why isn't Palantir down 30% because it can't find charlie kirks killer? The company that has all the data in the entire world at it's disposal?
How is this company still worth so much when it's not working?

I should have put 2000 dollars into OPEN when I saw it shilled a month ago.

>>60929613
Been browsing /smg/ 5 years, never learned how calls work.

CMMG chads... How over is it for us?

>>60930369
longing bonds just means buying them

>>60930378
>never learned how calls work

>>60929656
>>60929660
I didn't do that, but I did make a lot of money and then I watched anime egirls then I looked back and realized it was going down fast and didn't know what to do except seethe at myself for not selling the peak plus I was hungover. Gonna stop drinking, making bad trades/no trades.

And if I had done that same trade with half my folio I would have been nearly 200k at the top so it was a double blunder.

They can be a good strategy, but they always wiped me out a few times. I rarely buy shares anymore, other than index funds in a retirement account. I did a lot of research before I started with options. I tend to keep it simple, cause options can get very complex.

>>60930384
Why is leftoid a catgirl

>>60930384
I bought tmf a year ago and I'm still down by like 50%

>>60930383
>FED cuts
>yields drop
>value of bonds go up
>leverage the move
>double your money
>LONGING BONDS

>>60930378
They can be a good strategy, but they also wiped me out a few times. I rarely buy shares anymore, other than index funds in a retirement account. I did a lot of research before I started with options. I tend to keep it simple, cause options can get very complex.

>tfw cashed out at 419
sigh

>>60930393
>bought a year ago
What the fuck anon why would you do that?
>down 50%
Well at least you'll make it back with profit, but way too early.
Why buy before they start cutting? There's no need to be that early when it comes to bond trades.

>>60930394
The long end of the curve doesn't always drop, they can't directly control that ..

>>60930389
that's nick fuentes's boyfriend

henlo mister jerome
thank you for taking my question
life is not been good very much lately
i am always and all the time sad
i do not know why but i have theories
please your honor lower the rates soon
i think that will help fix my life
it may not and i may kms anyway
but oh well i would appreciate your help
thank you mister jerome
no further questions

>>60930378
It's pretty simple. Calls give you the right to buy at or a certain price on or before a specific date.

>>60930401
The fed wants yields lower. The US government needs them lower or it won't be able to pay its debt.
They WILL drop them to near 3%. After that I don't care because I'll be out of this trade.

Anyways I respect your opinion. You can disagree. But the "old people bonds thing" destroys me.

>>60930351
sounds complicated, i wish you luck
>>60930367
kek havent seen this in ages. seasons greetings

>>60929932
I was 28 when I started posting here. It won't.

>>60930399
People were shilling tmf last year at this time.
I could buy tmf again now but I'll have to dip into my savings

>>60930415
There's no need to buy more if you already hold some. You'll make back your 50% and probably turn a bit green.

what's happening here then
I'm not a gaymer you see

>>60930422
their last game caused an international incident

>>60930381
>just bought
Actually, or "just reported"? They have like 45 days to report. She had good timing if she bought then.

>Adobe beats estimates
>analysts conclude it's because of AI
Jesus fucking christ these people are clowns. Adobe is beating estimates BECAUSE AI IS A FUCKING NOTHINGBURGER AND NO PROFESSIONALS USE IT OH MY FUCKING GOD.

Given tomorrow is a profit taking day, I made this image. Maybe for a new thread. Anyone want to make some more changes?

>>60930476
what's the best technique?

GALTfags what the tits happened? GALT is $7 now. I should have had more faith.
t. sold before $3

>>60930489
Marketuu Sell-no-Jitsu

>>60930489
I sold today, before everyone takes profits tomorrow and makes everything red.

>>60930497
Why would they take profit when there is more profit to be had? Nigga about to miss out on more profit lmao

>>60930497
There will never be another red day.

>>60930399
This meme is true, but she has a daugther

>>60930502
>>60930503
Because I didn't want to lose the $3600 I made today for the promise of more.

No one ever went broke selling for a profit.
>that's probably a Ferengi rule of Acquisition

>>60930494
>had UNH at 300
>had GALT at 3.50
>sold DELL on the dip this week
Damn I wanna kms. Patience is a virtue I don't have

>Overnight trading is restricted due to a Corporate Action within a 3-day window

what the fuck is this shit

>>60930513
NEVER sell on the dip nigga
NEVER

Only time you should even consider it is if it's a meme stock that could genuinely plummet
When it's someone huge like Dell you'll break even in a month or two at worst.
Buy the dip, don't sell it.

My schizophrenic play is ETHM/Dynamix, the 'Mstr' of ethereum
>236 million mcap
>2.3 billion in ethereum
>1.5 billion to acquire more ethereum
>possibility of having more than half a million ethereum by the time the spac merger is completed
>eth is entering its bullphase in bitcoin's wake/has been bulling since april and may go as high as 20k
Even if they split the shares the company will still be undervalued as the mstr bump is 250% bitcoin. An ethereum bull market for ETHM will send it up to 50 billion mcap or more, at least a 16x assuming a share split by 6.
>but that's dumb, spacs are scams
Yeah but DJT ran up from 10 bucks to 70 bucks on that launch and it's basically worthless, this has actual capital.

hey anons, how do you feel about the air travel sector?

>>60930519
>just keep your capital locked up instead of reporting a loss
seems like a bad choice

>>60930529
unexciting but something everyone needs I guess
world's getting more connected if it's a long game thing so should increase if you're happy holding a while

that's my amateur analysis

When's the next job report? A lot of fags getting let go the last 24 hours KEK

>>60930532
It's nowhere near April, who cares

>>60930529
completely awful with the possible exception of fuel companies

Finance go fish...lol
This is perfect for /smg/

>>60930546
Many of you still haven't mastered capital gain!
>well it is ages 10 and up

Net worth as of today: $810,785.54

>>60930519
I did this with BILI a few years ago when I lost 16k on it and was a baggie for another year or so then finally decided to sell because it never went back up but if I had waited another year or so I'd have made it all back and then some which felt like absolute shit

>>60930546
>To ensure it will wear or rip easily
Is this a fucking typo or are they just straight up admitting to making a shitty product on this advertisement lmao

>>60930534

i've been holding to UAL for an year, the original plan was to start selling it at 120 while giving it a price target of 150 up to 160. i was at college for most of it time the stock had plummet over the year, so i didnt get the change to proffit from its fall in price except from one singular deposit i did at the start of august. now im wondering what to do now the the stock reached it's all time high again, thinking about selling it one of these days and checking up new stocks to buy for January

>>60930544
I can't complain, they earned me back the money i've spent on tuitions

>>60930557
Given it is available to us on Amazon Vine, I guarantee you it is a total dog shit product. Almost all of them are trash now.

>>60930513
I actually had October $2.5c for GALT but sold those for $50 in fucking June due to that one day where it mooned to above $3 before dumping to $2 again

>>60930532
you shouldnt be buying garbage in the first place, if you go in the red it should just be volatility or you will be happy to buy more because you had reasonable portfolio allocation in the first place only buying more if it's cheap enough

oh, GALT presented at the H.C. Wainwright 27th Annual Global Investment thing in new york

What is the point of working an actual job anymore? Stocks literally only go up and you pay much lower tax rates on capital gains, plus you don't have to pay into the social security ponzi

>>60930638
I use my job to buy more stocks though

>>60930378
>>60930409
>no mention of Black-Scholes or other pricing models
>no mention of greeks or how theoretical pricing is derived
Very cruel. If you think it's as shrimple as buying a long call contract, I have to sell you just before an ER

>>60930638
I wasn't born a shareholder

:)

NXGL lol

Also I had an idea
What if Max Pain, but instead of price, it's expressed in net market greeks

>>60930668
I like your handwriting

>>60930668
I've learned more from Charlie than my father. Charlie Munger that is.

>>60930284
me? I'm bonding longs

I'm not used to making money and I think something is wrong

>>60930556
>sold stocks in june 2022, they went back up in august, lost 5k and that sent me into a spiral of depression and temp jobs I only managed to escape in the last year
>sold mstx at 24 after buying at 19, bought back in at 160 and lost 3000 bucks last year, I atually predicted it would 8x from 19 bucks and it went higher so I fucked myself out of like 140,000 dollars I could have potentially made
>sold on the dip last month on the 19th because of jpow's speech and trump's announcement, everything went back up the next few days, lost 8k in unrealized gains
Sheeeit

nxdr is ready to run. buckle up neighbors.

>>60930638
Genuinely I don't know. The S&P does 15% every year like it's nothing. I made $45k in the past 12 months, that's enough to neetmax.

>>60930707
what the fuck is that portfolio

>>60930740
ive made more than all the money ive ever wageslaved
but i cant NEET yet because bad times always follows good times
2022 was just a pullback and it felt terrible, 2020 i managed to be 100% cash tho i didnt buy back in until like May 2020 instead of March
2018-2018 was only a pullback too but felt terrible, also how i ended up 100% cash for 2020 lol so it worked out

i went from 0% cash to 20% cash this year, ill be 50% cash by middle of next year maybe more
it is always a cycle, bad times will come back, just a flash of bad times is enuf for ppl to get rekt if theyre retarded with leverage

>>60930746
I was thinking some retard target fund but then I saw buttcoin. Seriously wtf are you doing? It is really scary you are making money.

>>60930746
It's 31% of his portfolio and everything else is under +2.38% or worse

>>60930665
Skill issue

What kind of bicycle helmet am I suppose to wear in order to not look like a FAGGIT. Can it be done?

>>60930746
>get WMT at 13% discount through work
>excess cash is put in SGOV
>BTC and ETH let me have exposure to crypto in a TFSA, which still have good upside over a 10 year period
>everything else is about PMs, REEs, and materials and energy, trying to do a 50:50 split between spot and producers

>>60930794
i bought a fancy sena helmet to talk to my buddies over a mesh network while we're riding and it works really well. i do look like a faggot using it though

>>60930707
>>60930776
>>60930802
So for transparency's sake:
>WMT and SGOV as noted above
>POND was a meme that didn't pan out, but no harm holding just in case
>CPER and LITP are the counterpart producers to COPX as noted above
>VIX is a trade, not a hedge, and it should pop off bigly in the next 4 weeks and turn green
>SLV puts were also a trade in progress, since the goldsilver ratio looks like it will explode in a few weeks, which means either gold wins or silver loses (or both), and given the large PM run, I opted for downside protection

Uhhh bros? Is it happening?

>>60930794
Probably not. So I just wear whatever while running.

>>60930810
just buy spy, your port has too many positions for its size

>>60930812
For banking, my money is on JPM. I have a 20% return on another account (only a few hundred total).
The Fed can't transact with individuals and if they move to a digital currency for dystopian purposes, they would have to have a central/large bank do it for them, which puts JPM as a prime candidate

>>60930820
No, I want more targeted exposure to PMs and materials and energy. SGOV acts as an interest-bearing cash position and lets me dca into shit over time. I want copper, silver, gold, lithum, rare earths, oil, and uranium.

*hires poos*

>>60930828
okay then under perform I guess, it's your money

WHY DID I BUY SHNY INSTEAD OF GDXU

>>60930812
Aren't they already publicly traded? Or wtf are the prices I'm seeing?

qrd on these two bitches please

>>60930794
As a mountain bike rider I've accepted that I crash so much that I have to wear a helmet on the trails in the woods. Of course they look bad, but better than bleeding brain fluid out your nose when you crash. Just be sure it fits. I worse the wrong size helmet for like a year thinking I just didn't know how to adjust it right. Turns out I needed a size bigger. I even did the whole measure my head like they said to do and it will still too small.

>>60930910
bobble head ass nigga

>>60930879
I'll be honest anon I have no fucking idea
All I know is commons have no cap but the gov can dilute your ass although it doesnt seem likely?
Preferred shares are capped but I'm assuming less risky
Why these shares exist as OTC when the gov owns both idk. Why is their current valuation so low on OTC when they manage 4T in assets, are Americas largest company and are literally too big to fail? Idk.
I made a thread earlier hoping someone could post some fud so I dont fomo but nothing came of it.
Right now dootch bank has a $20 target and RH normies can't buy.
Allegedly they are the closest bank to trump so maybe they do actually know something
Please god, dont dump on me please

>>60930915
Oh here is one for the gay guys.

So /smg/bros, how are you doing?
You didn't puss out and go into cash only to have the markets rocket right?

My portfolio is still mostly invested. I didn't really sell out this year so much as de-leverage. Also built up cash.
Feels like all the economic indicators are looking bad but markets and asset prices keep climbing. I can't shake the bad gut feeling of looming trouble in the future.

>>60930918
I fucked up my averages, didn't think it would run up so fast
watch it dump tomorrow then crab
I started reading about this in august, pussied out because who buys pennyshit from 2009 at $10???
This is basically every free cent I have right now
I'm so fucked

>>60930792
My father used to be a doped borderline commie when he was younger, and my mom was one of those proto-revolutionary bitches that took herself to seriously. They think the markets are risky and that the US is shaitan.
They could have just bought coca cola and i would have been set for life.

If the IPO wasnt happening I dont these kikes would be so tilted

>>60930956
My dad had a few Gs of AT&T and sold in 2008, hasn't owned stock since.
Some people just aren't allowed to make it without suffering

>>60930946
there's also one with two girls working on their hips with a strap on

>>60930961
hopefully when the first of them dies me and my brothers will able to dump them in a retirment home

Here is my Dell strategy tomorrow.
>market likely a profit taking day, so I expect it to be red
>might go green later if people slurp the red
>don't buy Dell above 124.20 a share, under that is a good price
>but it did hit a recent low 118.15, which is a great price it didn't stay at very long
>fair value is 129 a share this week, but you don't want to pay anywhere near that

>>60929628
+0%
Didnt play into the gay crabby day

guess i'm going to bed hungry tonight...
thank you mister jerome...

>>60931021
Should have bought Dell.. good night

>>60931026
I bought a dell back in like 2004

>>60931028
It is funny how people can't wrap their heads around that Dell has another division that makes lots of money selling commercial services, not just hardware. You are like the 10 person I've talked to that aren't getting that.

>>60931044
I bought in when you mentioned Dell. I used to work for a Dell shop and realized the possibilities for smaller companies to have Dell install AI rigs up in POPs and such. I've got a gambling position in DLLL now.

Dell also doesnt want to overperform and they give business away to smaller companies if they already hit their targets and they tell their sales agent to take a break for the rest of the quarter
i dont get it but hey TSSI benefited from being Dell's bitch setting up AI data centers for overflow business that Dell doesnt want in their financials

am i missing something about why Dell needs an overflow valve? boomer shareholders dont like it if their guidance or growth becomes too unpredictable or something?

>>60931064
Dell does overflow business themselves. Like how they set up Microsoft Dynamics 365 systems for businesses.

Where do you park your retirement funds?
For me it's VGT.

>>60931074
Fidelity version of S&P500.

>>60931074
bitcoin

>>60931078
>Hurricane Katrina 2025, colorized.

>>60931064
>>60931044
>>60930968
I don't want to short or buy puts in case it rallies on retard strength, but I think the weekly chart suggests it will bottom out around $87-99, and that's a good buying zone. Of course, the current dip might continue for one or two more candles and then go back up into an uptrend.

>>60931090
>weekly chart suggests it will bottom out around $87-99,
Do you understand right now they make $7 a share in earnings? Plus it is going up higher.

>>60931101
I mostly trade technicals rather than fundamentals. The market has been a little divorced from reality for a while, and I'd only be trading it for a few months at best, maybe one ER cycle or two, where it doesn't matter all that much

>>60931119
That's fair, but when fundamentals are that different from technical, well only one is right.

Easy $9 a share in earnings soon, so under $100 makes little sense. I'm a short time trader also and every week I'm going to be selling or buying new month out options on the stock.

>>60930961
Few g's as in thousands worth of stock, or thousands of stock.
>sold in 2008
You don't mean the bottom right

Why didn't you buy gold, silver and miners? The flood is coming, that's the ark.
Its a tiny market, I believe 1% of NVDA capital could buy all the GDX. The hot money will cause dizzying prices to the safe harbor.

>>60930956
NTA but try not to resent your parents, they genuinely sound too stupid to expect anything better from

>>60931136
>Why didn't you buy gold, silver and miners?
I don't understand the business, so I can't value them. Depletion always seemed made up to me in my accounting classes. Doesn't help when people here push these weird scam South Africans miners.

was apples reveals that bad?

>>60931168
the business is printing money, real money.

>>60931178
I'll gladly invest if one of them is using Optmus robots to mine or whatever. But I would rather make money in Dell, something I understand than an old school mining business. But give me a reputable mining company ticker and I will analyze.

>>60931168
Depletion is arguable, but what matters is how long it takes to go from mine to industry, and the current rate of demand. Uranium, for example, takes about 2 years to process and enrich before its used in a power plant, so contracts are fairly forward looking (and what's cool is only a handful of companies worldwide can process that, such as Kazatomprom).

For copper, there's a massive jurisdiction risk, since a lot of it comes from South America, whose governments tend to be very socialist and privatize their mines and fuck everything up constantly (or deny environmental permits). Silver too, to an extent. A lot of mines also have secondary minerals, eg some copper is produced as a byproduct of gold mining iirc.

Then there's a few different types of companies. Quite often, smaller companies will infinitely dilute shareholders, so if you handpick miners, also check their floating shares outstanding. You've got largecaps that are diversified, which makes pure plays a bit harder, midcap producers, smallcap explorers, and royalty companies, which don't mine themselves, but lease the land - they can be sort of dividend-like and more resistant to downturns, depending on their contracts

>>60931169
Most of Apple's stuff leaked. The iPhone 17 seems the best in the line up for the price. The Pro phones aren't getting much love though. I got a launch 16 Pro last year. My battery is 100% and it looks brand new, so I had little need to upgrade. Also don't like the look of the 17 Pro. For people with a iPhone 14 and under it is a good upgrade to get.

I am interested in getting an M5 iPad. Not sure why they are waiting to announce it.

>>60929607
Uhhh phoneposting?

Bobo status?

>>60931203
Being vaporized.

>>60931185
We're literally at the breakout stage on almost every chart for epic descending wedges and massive cup and handles. Gold led the way now all the miners and silver are starting the explosive phase
So a shotgun pattern would work at this point picking miners and producers. Honest to God even $AG is breaking out of a long painful imprisonment.

>>60930638
you need like a million invested to make this work. probably 1.5 to account for the occasional bear market

LET'S MAKE SOME MODAFUCKING MOOOOONNNNNNNNNEYYYYYYYYY

>>60931215
What ticker am I looking at?

fitch ratings later today boys
if you're french you better strap in kek

>>60931230
$AG

>>60931235
Well they make no money, have a participation award dividend. Their cash position seems stable, as does their current debt. Long term debt seems manageable. They don't seem to have the capital to really expand the business without increasing debt in a high interest environment. They really need this rate cuts. Also well with bad earnings in a record high for silver, well I wouldn't invest in them.

>>60931136
i'm 5% NEM
what percentage do you allocate?

>>60929600
>>Paramount Skydance Prepares Ellison-Backed Bid for Warner Bros. Discovery
>Interdasting
Any guesses on what PSKY's offer will be? WBD's been stuck in a range between $9-$11 for the last eighteen months or so, so I personally suspect the market's gotten ahead of itself.

(It closed at $16.17 at the end of trading today, just on reports that an offer was forthcoming.)

>>60930664
I don't understand Black-Scholes. I did learn the hard way not to buy anything with crazy high IV though.

>>60931235
>>60931215
What anon's name am I looking at?

Bought the top award

>>60931244
>At least I tried
>>60931257
>6.4% /bant/>>>23289060

>>60931257
Good earnings, sustainable dividend. They don't appear to be growing earnings. I don't like to see current liabilities be double cash. Long term debt at the end of 2024 is the same as current debt which seems odd. Like the company is happy being mediocre. Rate cuts will help them, but they don't seem to want to grow.

>>60930019
>let's assume bears are correct, stagflation is coming, fed cuts are bearish, and we are looking at a deep and rough recession. What tickers go up in this scenario?
Based on the Seventies, I'd expect:

*TIPS - treasury bonds linked to inflation

*Dividend Aristocrats - stocks with multi-decade track records of increasing dividends each year

*Gold

Basically quality stocks that pay you to own them, particularly if they make staples that people have to have. Or things that benefit from a really messed up economic/financial policy.

A lot of it would probably depend on what was causing the stagflation, though. And people still argue about the Seventies, so . . .

Also note that rate cuts and stagflation don't necessarily go together. In the Seventies, the Fed Funds rate was about twice what it was now, and Volcker dealt with the problem by jacking it way, way up to 20%

>>60931266
The idea behind BS is that a contract's value is tied to three inputs: price, time, and volatility.

A strike that is deep in the money (eg s=50 and the underlying is at 100) will have very different outcomes than a strike that is outside of the money (eg s=150 and the underlying is at 100). It also depends on time: 1 day vs 60 days vs a year will also have different expectations, especially when you factor the stock's volatility into it. That is, IV is an annualized expectation of price movement. A defensive stock like WMT or KO behaves very differently from AAPL and TSLA.

With the three inputs, you can take the partial derivative and rearrange them to calculate the greeks, which describe how sensitive the contract's value is to price movements (delta), time (theta), volatility (vega), interest rates (rho - nobody cares about this), and delta's sensitivity to price movements (gamma). If price is "position", delta can be "velocity" and gamma is "acceleration".

IV is the volatility, from above. It doesn't really mean anything per se, how do you quantify it? It's not like VIX. I usually interpret it as the "magic number that makes the rest of the known values work". It could also be thought of as demand or liquidity. IV rises before an ER and drops sharply after - if you bought a near-dated call that expires just after an ER, you'll see a huge amount of IV (and vega will also be quite high, due to expectations on strong price movements) - after the event, IV drops significantly, which can kill the contract's value. It's possible to buy a call option, be right, and lose money because of IV Crush.

It doesn't matter how fancy your option spreads are, what matters is your net greek exposure. Options are great because they have exact, defined risk ahead of time, and allow you to go long or short on time, volatility, and price.

>>60931297
>calculate the greeks

>>60931296
Based on the 70s, I expect more inflation and OPEC to sanction the US for aiding Israel again

>>60931296
1.) Long TLT or TMF until rates hit 3%
2.) Go into commodities temporarily OR hold cash for a bit
3.) Buy quality dividend companies during the dump
4.) Hold and do nothing else

>>60931299
Yes, exactly. Most option trading platforms will at least give you delta, gamma, vega, and theta. You don't *need* anything else if you're just doing basic spreads. You can calculate it by hand in excel - I have, and I've done so in C# as well. An options calculator can be nice to have too, to see how various inputs affect things.
https://www.barchart.com/options/options-calculator

You can also look at 2nd and 3rd order greeks (gamma is 2nd). Basically how one greeks change as one of the main inputs (price, time, IV) change

>>60931297
Okay I guess I understood Black-Scholes a lot more than I thought I did. It's just all this stuff feels so basic to me that surely people aren't blowing up their accounts on options just because they can't figure out delta. I mean, how could someone be that stupid? So I just assumed there was some underlying complexity that I wasn't getting.

>>60931308
I usually just do it myself. Looking at current stock price and the premium for the option at different expirations.

>>60931307
Your thoughtses on timing oil bottom? Obviously 2020 was different but imagine the gains.

>>60931307
>hold cash for a bit
In a stagflation scenario? Why? If it played out like the Seventies, it would be a period of high inflation.

Or are you counting things like money market mutual funds as "cash"?

>>60931317
No idea. If oil dumps though, prepare to hold a long long time (so get something with decent dividends and spread out your investments).

>>60931318
You can afford to hold cash for a bit in 4.5% yielding moneymarket accounts while you see what's going on. You'd be matching inflation if you get stagflation.
I don't see stagflation. I see a mild dip in the market, followed by the last big burst of the US economy before TOTALDEBTDEATH in 2040.

>>60931312
>I mean, how could someone be that stupid?
Here's a SPY call, atm, 4dte.

It has about 50 delta (one share = 1 delta as well, so you could effectively be delta neutral - immune to price movements - by shorting 50 shares of SPY).
But here's the catch - things CHANGE. Notice the gamma of 9: if SPY moves $1, that means delta has changed by 9 as well. This means you have to now long or short another 9 shares ($5900) in order to remain delta neutral. Gamma matters a ton as expiry approaches - it effectively makes whether a call is ITM or OTM on expiry actually matter (because then delta approaches 100 or 0 as time reaches 0).

It also has a theta of -26, so you'd lose $26 per day (the contract is $174), but theta increases in magnitude as expiry approaches, so the losses become exponential as time reaches 0.In other words, you want to be on the right side of the trade.

If you were long theta, you'd want to be gamma and delta neutral if possible, which is what market makers do (to be risk neutral while gaining $/day). Most people buy a call a call it a day (no pun intended), but some are ignorant to how greeks affect their success. In fact, delta is (roughly) considered the probability an option will finish ITM by expiry.

If you were bullish on a ticker longterm, you could buy a deep ITM call (say 60-70 delta) with 100+ dte and it would be a reasonably proxy to holding the stock on leverage. As delta approaches 100, volatility matters less because it's more or less "guaranteed" to be ITM

I'm sort of halfassing my explanations here, but I want you to get the gist of it. There are many articles explaining everything in good detail.

>>60931349
Forgot pic

kek do you guys think that they will crash the entire stock market with a 300 bps rate on purpose? Normies are calling out Mossad for killing Charlie Kirk and they need a distraction right now.

>>60930019
Silent depression 1921 tier in 2026 is my bet

>>60931381
>>60931326
Benner Cycles are calling for 2026 to be a "good time to sell". I'll probably go to a largely cash (eg bond) position around Feb I think

>>60931317
Why is the forward p/e so shit?

rate cut will see a massive red candle
the market is forward facing
they are betting right now on the rate cut
and as soon as that rate cut happens, they begin betting on the next big thing

all in UNH

>>60931396
Oil prices probably

>>60930520
Why buy shares of the ETH Microstrat instead of the ETH directly?

Oh shit

You are all talking about Dell Dell Dell, y'all are seriously making me considering buying a boomer stock like the dad who bought AT&T earlier in this thread.

>>60931450
That's really just me, cause I post a lot and have no life. See here for Friday advice:
>>60930968

>>60930385
Sounds like you need to get good health habits before starting up a computer
Stop drinking/smoking and do pull ups
Then study Graham, Greenblatt and Sleep. Your position size was small because you didn't really know what you owned.

>>60930520
>>60931440
I don´t get this shit but it will retardpump wont it.

>>60931349
>>60931308
>>60931299
>>60931297
It's all greek to me, lads.

>>60930385
>anime egirls
The heck does that mean? E-girl is an IRL aesthetic of influencers and streamers, which is an aesthetic I have literally never seen used in anime for a girl.

I have solded SPY5 before the pump, and bought gold before the pump. Will spy5 go down next 2 weeks, or should I sell gold now? what do I do, I still have a few dollars to buy something, I have no idea what tho

>>60929643
unity good. barring macro bullshit its on its way to 60

>>60929600
psky to 20

>>60930422
>>60930435
ubisoft finna get bought out


anons, i have 25k (about 20% port) in intc 26 and 30c for feb and mar respectively.
i think this is gonna be the big one.

>>60931528
ETHM

Why didn't you buy eurodef?

>>60931546
because Korean def is the one making any money

>>60931549
nvm EUAD looks like it's taking off
KDEF took off 2 weeks ago

If you're not all in on precious metals and precious metal accessories while the Fed triggers a stagflationary crisis, then you're NGMI.

>>60931549
north korean maybe
chaebols suck

Gold and silber are already up about 1% premarket. Today will be a good day for metals.
I will invest in a breakfast sandwich to celebrate.
This will bring good fortune to end the day with +2-3% to metal minors as money leaves useless equities to buy more GOLD

>>60931577
>GOLD
GOOULD?

>>60931577
>>60931560
Gold? Heh...
Thats too new fangled for me I'm investing in the final boss of boomer stocks

>>60931618
BUY ROCK HIT PUNY GIRL STOCK
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ROCK/

>>60931656
>>60931656

>>60930740
45k is not enough to neetmax. Almost made 30k in the last 4 months. Would have made more if I had fomod into babx and crcl like I planned and sold earlier.

>>60930768
>i went from 0% cash to 20% cash this year, ill be 50% cash by middle of next year maybe more
So you think recession 2027?

>>60931504
It's like the mikoposter, but with californians instead of japanese.

>>60930946
women are such disgusting perverts, it's unreal

>>60929932
I got my shit together at 30, got a degree and a nice job. Not saying it is going to be easy, but it is still possible.

>>60932564
on the internet anything is possible. in reality any "nice" job will discard your application for being a old weirdo without experience and history