Thread 60940129

Was there always nepotism? Did they really hire you on spot if you were qualified in the past?

It used to be a lot easier. Seems to me that the main culprits for why it's so bad now are
>companies offshoring basically all former white guy jobs to India
>companies bringing in H1B slaves to do the above jobs
>fake postings all over the place including companies doing fake interviews for jobs they have no intention to fill (I have several anecdotes about this from friends who work at large tech companies like Amazon/Google)
>AI bullshit filters tons of qualified candidates because there are 10 million falsified jeet resumes
>even with referrals, many companies will just ghost you

I'm about 15 years into my career. For every period up until ~2022 I would at least get a call back for most jobs I applied for, and it was relatively easy to find jobs I was qualified for. Contrast that with now, where I have a masters degree and relevant certs, but get like 1% callback rate. I've literally applied to 400-500 jobs in the past 2 years and have only had a handful of callbacks. Companies are only hiring for extremely senior or extremely specialized roles. All normal jobs are gone.

>>60940149
I should add to this that I started college right when the 2007 financial collapse happened, and yet I had no trouble getting a job by the time I graduated. Compare that now where I have much more experience and credentials, but can't even get callbacks for jobs where I meet 100% of the qualifications.

>>60940154
>>60940149
Are government jobs like this too?
I am interested in forrestry engineering, i know it does not pay to well but the only thing keeping me away from going to university is that I heard it is near impossible to find a job as one. I do not want to waste 5 years for nothing.

I have a BS in CS and I've never had a job interview.

>>60940129 (OP)
Job market is shit right now, worldwide.
Companies are legit in survival mode and they just fire people without replacing them.

>>60940202
Junior level CS jobs are completely gone unless you have connections that have a miracle backdoor job in their pockets (not shown on job sites).

Most jobs are utter bullshit. Think about it, why would you yourself ever hire anyone full time for anything? in a world where most white collar jobs can be done with a python script? That was the reality before AI, and now you don't even need to know python because you can just talk to the computer in plain English and have it do whatever you want on autopilot.
The only reason half of all "jobs" existed 2010-2021 was because money was dirt cheap so companies could afford to hire a shit ton of people in the hopes one of them would generate more revenue than they cost. Now money is too expensive and there's way too many alternatives to wasting tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars a year on a fleshnigger who you probably only need a quarter of the time they're employed if that.

>>60940202
I sent fifty applications and just started doing masters. Bachelors is basically worthless now

>>60940278
I graduated years ago and no longer have a relationship with my professors, so I have no idea how I would get letters of recommendation for a masters.

>>60940302
I would've easily gone for an MBA years ago if it wasn't for that extremely fucking gay letters of recommendation requirement so many schools want. Like where the fuck are you supposed to get them? What if your last job your manager so happened to hate your guts? What if your professors didn't give a shit about you? Then you're just toast and have to accept your fate?

Just fuck everything seriously.

>>60940326
I've gotten very close to applying multiple times and then realized I don't know where I'd ever get recommendations from.

>>60940326
ask family friends that have known you since you were a kid.. Surely you have 2 or 3 of those dude

>>60940370
They need to be from professors usually, not your mom, retard.

>>60940268
>why would you yourself ever hire anyone full time for anything? in a world where most white collar jobs can be done with a python script?
The thing is, most employers have no idea what their computer systems are capable of. The vast majority of office jobs are full of inefficiency, hiring people to use computers to manually do shit that can and should have been automated 15 years ago.

>>60940375
nu uh

>>60940129 (OP)
>indian frog
It’s always been hard. There’s always been nepotism. Every generation has winners and losers. The difference is some people tough it out, others sit around whining about it. You sound like the second type.

>>60940129 (OP)
>society mandates that everyone get a job
>society does not guarantee a job to everyone willing and able to work
>companies keep making it more and more difficult every year for someone to get a job
This broken ass system is going to cause so many fucking people to go homeless in the next decade kek

>>60940396
it works as intended (for the rich)

>>60940224
>Companies are legit in survival mode

Is anyone not? Seems to me everyone is living year to year or less, frequently month to month. I'm down to day by day, but when my wife divorced me, that was minute by minute and it really hasn't gotten better since.

Manufacturing.
Show up on time and you're already ahead of everyone for leadership positions.

>>60940129 (OP)
all i have is BS in mechanical engineering and i can speak to people and i've never had trouble finding a job.

>>60940445
>>60940451
This has been my experience. The market isn’t all that bad as people make it sound and getting a job isn’t difficult. I always feel like such a chad when I come to this site.

>>60940472

It's not that hard to get a basic job paying just barely too little to ever get ahead. You can find $45k jobs everywhere, but good luck buying a home when those are priced at $400k

>>60940524
Yeah dude the priorities are all fucked. I turned my back on society a long time ago.

>>60940529

I have put myself into a catch 22. If I keep going to work then I'm a good little goy paying my taxes and giving my labor away to the central bankers through money printing, but at least I eat while everyone collectively suffers. If I continue to be checked out of society, then I still need goy bucks to pay for some basics and I run out of money.

I was born into the ultimate finger trap of an economy. The freaking retards before us who let us get onto paper money screwed us so hard.

>>60940375
well your mom's a professor, isn't she

>>60940192
Depends where you work. Defense is basically the only field that isn't totally taken over by jeets, but that's only if you work in Aerospace. Palantir and other tech company-style defense companies have all the same issues as normal companies. I was talking to a family member that works in aerospace and he was totally unaware at how bad the job market is for most people.

>>60940278
you saying i should add a fake masters on my CV to go with my fake bachelors?

If you're whining before 200 applications, you're NEVER gonna make it lol

If you really are skilled and are able to provide value to a company you shouldn't have any problem finding a job. Nobody who is actually useful is sitting at home unable to find a job. You are just useless.

>>60940472
Entry level jobs in my field require either an H1B visa or 3 years of experience. If you are white or asian and actually entry level they are unavailable.

>>60940524
i walked right into my $85k job with two interviews. its not great but its easy work.

>wahh wahh I can't get a bullshit job doing nothing
>I need to keep piling up certs and degrees until they let me into the well fed wagie club
We live in a world where YOU can have superintelligent AI employees working for YOU day and night for less than the cost of even a team full of jeets. If you don't know how to turn this revolutionary opportunity into cold hard cash, you have much bigger problems than just not being able to find a "job".

I just don't believe blindly sending out hundreds of resumes/applications is the way to go. Nobody was doing that in the past. Do you really think you deserve a shot at an opportunity you've put literally zero effort into? Mass job applications is a scam. They're probably just harvesting your info. You're never gonna get a job if you're just a random number. If you want a job you need to be a person and find other people looking for someone like you. If you recently graduated from college or a school of some kind, then you need to make them get you a job. It's literally their job to get you hired on in the field they educated you and you can hold them accountable to that, but most people don't. If you are trying to break into a new industry without any contacts, then you need to make them and that means you might have to work for free until you can find the place that's looking for someone like you. I guarantee you if you are serious enough about working hard, then you'll be willing to do that shit and eventually somebody is gonna notice. This putting your info into databases and mass applying for jobs is so bullshit.

>>60940695
>superintelligent AI
if you think this actually exists right now then you are probably a jeet who posts chatGPT-generated posts on reddit

>>60940129 (OP)

It's not hard at all...

>>60940702
I'm not talking about the really crazy shit I'm talking about how it's smarter than 99.9% of the human population and even then it completes work 100x faster than a fleshnigger could. For all intensive purposes it's superintelligent

>>60940714
It's not superintelligent, mate. It's like a talking encyclopedia with minimal administrative function.

There was nepotism, but the nepotism was supposed to be for REAL jobs like "financial advisor to the president of IBM" or some shit. Jobs like "office excel monkey- 17 dollars an hour" didn't have insane self-important HR ladies gatekeeping.

Resumes are a dumb humiliation ritual.They already know everything about you.

>>60940326
>>60940352
The system is actively designed to shut us out, which is why crypto was so important to my sanity back in 2020-2021, crypto being shit now makes me very salty I didn't buy bitcoin constantly with my wagie bux from 2022-2024.

>>60940391
>>60940472
Kill yourself boomer.

Every generation goes through different things so they have different advice. The mentality that millenials however(the system wants to fuck you over) is the default throughout most of history.Came to that conclusion after a little chat with gemini.

>>60940758
Ok faggot thanks for telling me how fucking retarded you are

>>60940633
/thread

>>60940129 (OP)
>Was there always nepotism?

yes, of course. however previously you also didn't have to compete with the labor pool of effectively the entire world.

>>60940758
>It's like a talking encyclopedia
Actually a great way to think about modern LLMs. It's an encyclopedia that can talk to you.

>>60940268
Money's about to be dirt cheap again though.

>>60940149
i have >12 years of A+++ experience and it's fucking impossible to change jobs right now. i'm just staying with the job i have that i got in 2021 because it also pays more than jobs do now. all of our new hires are in Canada and Europe, no more hires in the USA. hoping that interest rate cuts will help, but probably not. the issue is globalization enables hiring cheap labor in foreign countries, and AI is eliminating jobs which increases competition etc.

Software dev here. Funny how I notice the duality of the job posters here. You Americans can say whatever in this thread but I noticed multiple wfh parasites on this board.

>wfh chads it feels so comfy getting 80k a year while doing nothing all day

Do you really expect someone paying you money for doing nothing while they can find a jeet or some eastern european like myself to do it for 1/5 of the price.

Btw I changed like 5 jobs in the last year and boosted my salary by 50%+ ever since I finished uni. You dont even need to be naturally inteligent what is important you need to build projects and educate yourself at least 5 -10 hours a week.

You burgerniggers learn one for loop and expect 6 figures like its pre covid era, while your labour gets outsourced to Europe for half of the price and 5x the results and better attitude.

Also everyday I put like solid 5 to 6 hours daily and I dont hide like a parasite because I know it WILL bite you at the end.

I feel comfy as eastern euro since a lot of stuff is being outsourced here from US. You guys want 100k salaries while whining a doing nothing all day. Why should companies just fuck off to Poland or Hungary and find reliable white people for half of that price?

>>60940129 (OP)
yes, i literally only got my job because of my dad.
>t. proud nepotist

>>60940268
Very stupid post.

>you can just talk to the computer in plain English and have it do whatever you want on autopilot
Today, there is no AI that you can tell "run my company profitably and never bother me about any issues".

>why would you yourself ever hire anyone full time for anything?
AI tools are employee force multipliers. They can do way more with way less, yet they still cost exactly the same per hour as they did before we got AI. So businesses can now get 5 - 10x more value/output from an employee for the exact same price.

>you probably only need a quarter of the time they're employed if that
There's never a shortage of work. Now that the employee can get their original tasks done in 25% of the time thanks to AI, they can now be allocated additional tasks that before would never have gotten done

>>60940326
>I would've easily gone for an MBA years ago if it wasn't for that extremely fucking gay letters of recommendation requirement so many schools want.
an MBA before you have a job where you aren't hated isn't going to do much for you. that's why they have these. not having 2-3 people that would vouch for you is way too sus

>>60941878
>boosted my salary by 50%+ ever since I finished uni.
talk to me when you have 7 figures USD instead of "muh projects"

>>60940129 (OP)
should've thought of that as you coded away jobs. of course your day of uselessness would come now that everything is done

>>60940268
a tough pill to swallow but thats the one. better get a real job in the coal mines or iphone assembly plants

>>60940806
Delete all your frogs raj. You’ll thank me later.

>>60942088
>Today, there is no AI that you can tell "run my company profitably and never bother me about any issues".
CEOs are boomers and *think* this is what AI does, which is where most of the issues in then next 5 years will occur.

>>60942323
>CEOs are boomers and *think* this is what AI does, which is where most of the issues in then next 5 years will occur.
yes. the way I've described this is "it's going to suck because they're going to try"

I had to go for a written test today which will likely be followed up by more rounds of tests and interviews, there were more than 500 applicants for this job so it was like an elimination round, the hiring managers were acting like it's squid games for a McDonald's tier job and it was 90% niggers i felt so disgraced, i wanted to say fuck it and leave the building but i know how much i need the money, is this really what I have to go to to get a simple job

>>60940129 (OP)
It's the next step in the humiliation ritual for brokies.

We weren't competing with the entire 3rd world planet of desperate drone-slaves in the past

>>60940633
this, the companies just magically know you're skilled and disciplined and they hire you due to the power of friendship

>>60941881

>yes, i literally only got my job because of my dad.
>t. proud nepotist

Based, I am in my current cushy job at a bank because my uncle hired me

Nepobaby life is the best life, I have never had to do interviews