Thread 61118564

Spooky rally edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://etfdb.com/

>Gambling
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar

https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html
https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

>Misc smg:
https://www.financialjuice.com/home
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

Previously on /smg/
>>61116614

Today, I bought $MP and $IONQ for 10k each at the absolute top. How fucked am I?

Final warning.

Lol, crypto is shitting the bed~

We are red tomorrow.....right?

>>61118365
Basically what people consider as "the market always goes up" is just the risk known as beta. It waxes and wanes overtime during bear and bull runs. But there are other forms of return outside of that known as alpha, with small cap value being the most well known, that still perform during bear markets when the stock market is adjusting to the fundamentals getting too high

Essentially you can tilt your portfolio to reduce its overall pe ratio during times like this when you think the bubble is getting too high
>>61118441
I'd say they are more retarded than ever. Even in dividend communities we'll get idiots (sorry but people who give financial advice without doing proper research piss me off, it's like recommending a recipe you've never made with ingredients that are poisonous) that will say
>"Oh don't forget to get a good growth ETF because growth means it grows the fastest!"
no
that's not a thing
they will tell this to young investors who would benefit way more from just sticking to the market or going for a small capu value tilt since they won't retire for 40+ years

Shill me on Grinder's stock. Revenue increasing quarterly.

GRND

Is gay sex the future?

i want to have sex with the OP girl

All you had to do was buy the basedbeans, mumus. Now, you will suffer

>>61118609
>GRND
Yo dude wtf this shit is legit.

Who here /asx/?

Commodity related stocks are going a little silly atm

HGRAF sisters, we're back.

>>61118609
Since every job is being automated away, that leaves only Grindr and OnlyFans as ways to earn income for the poors.

>>61118636
>>61118609
They used to have an anonymous "find nearby" that would sort people with the app by proximity but not tell you their direction or actual distance. The idea was you could see who was near and agree to meet up somewhere public

So naturally arabs would take two or three people and use triangulation to root out gay people

>>61118597
Most of /biz/ thinks it'll be blood red, so it will probably be green or crab all day.
>>61118626
>girl

taco man will taco out on soibeans which will push SOXL to a +4% close

>>61118607
alpha is outperformance, it's not located anywhere until it happens babe. and you can project growth out. it's not an exact science but it's pretty obvious a company like microsoft is going to be able to grow more than a tobacco telcom or oil because of economic trends, most of the world still doesn't have a computer and more and more adopt every year, their exposure to growth markets like cloud computing, their research into ai and software... stock picking isn't easy but it's not impossible, and there are people paid to do exactly that, identify growth stocks. look at how well arkk has done, look at the vug etf even. all the outperformance of small cap value was in the past, in a different market that was far less efficient, in a different economy where technology progressed slower, in a different era where america had an edge in manufacturing. i know you want to be right, i know you have a chip on your shoulder about tech and the market, i used to be the same way. but it didn't serve me, and now that i've taken the growth pill i'm doing so much better. you're still young and you have plenty of time. stop being so stubborn, accept that economists and professionals on wall street probably know more about investing than you, and just buy the index instead of quarantining yourself from the best opportunity ever. or better yet buy arkk. or best yet, merge your assets with mine.

>>61118724
Invest in inevitability, asymmetric upside, and manage risk
My AI exposure comes from mining and metals. EVs, phones, and datacenters need tons of material and energy.

>green futures
Gonna wake up to some CHEESE
This picture is ancient now but that's literally a faster graphics card than I have right now, still have a 2070 super. "Making it" for me will be building a pc with all top end parts every 5 years without feeling guilty about the cost. Gotta have motivation that is relevant to you :]
Today I bought some MARA options cause some fag whose tips I follow keeps pimping it as a bitcoin miner turned ai data center play that hasn't really taken off yet. Fuck if I know.

Honestly, Jaime Dimon has the best speech of the year while listening to it, it was very presidential and he should run for the Democrats. I truly believe historians will see 2025 as one of the most pivotal years in American History. How much everything that sets up the 2030s exploded. First, everyone hates tariffs right? But man are they working out nicely. Its like having 300 billion LIQUID yearly is seriously insane. Its going to pay off in so many interesting ways in the future, gives us this cheat code to do whatever we want. Like when we used it to legit Save Argentina's entire economy for just 20 billion of it. Seriously, LatAm is being saved from ruin because Argentina is its #2 economy and we did that.

We will be able to fund Gaza rebuild too.

Secondly, what we are doing with AI Spending is incredible, OpenAI has been able to lowkey take over the world of AI and Chinas penetration is basically non existent. We already have full motion movies coming out shits nuts. Data centers are building and we have by far the most AI compute and Quantum Computer companies will also use it well.

Thirdly, getting self sufficient on these metals and REEs it should've been done long ago but so far its going bang on, 1.5 Trillion investment will Warp Speed this.

Fourth, nuclear power is going ape shit. OKLO will make it possible to power everyone with safeish nuclear, its going to revolutionize electric.

2025 has literally been the best year in American history for business deals. /essay off

>>61118733
Based rare earth enjoyer

>>61118564 (OP)
that's a man

i want what's best for you and i love you, want to make you happy. i wish you'd forgive whatever it is that i've done to upset you, try to understand that i want to help and care for you, and that your success and well-being are important to me. it's not about me being right or you being wrong. it's about helping you where i can, making us stronger. that's what's important to me babe.

>>61118749
this but america can win by doing nothing mostly. no other country is trying at anything.

Go down you slut

This might be a dumb question but why do futures matter when the market is open like 23hrs a day now?

does anyone here use Tradovate? selling some shit today, is this shorting myself?

>>61118748
I hope you make it anony

>>61118805
I have more stuff I need to sell just have to look around

>>61118580
IMO you may be mildly disappointed with MP. I wouldn’t expect 2x out of that anymore unless they reveal an investment in the billions with long term prospects. IONQ haven’t studied.

>>61118609
Holy shit…this has the potential to pop off similar to RDDT, but the actual people who use this homosex app are a far far far smaller population size. Hmm!

Half into Grinder, hedge with Onlyfans?

It’s interesting to see how dramatic the increase in IQ points is when we flip red, people are discussing stocks, news, books.

When things are green it’s namefags and homeless people talking about their alt-alt-shitcoins and the rocks they hide under the floorboards.


Really all I need to feel confident as a bobo.

>>61118749
I agree Jamie should run but don’t think the dems base would support a “rich banker” who isn’t frothing at the mouth with Trump hate.

>>61118607
>>61118724
the board isn’t alpha orientated because there aren’t many empirically driven investors here, so they can’t even reliably measure it

Ayo dis nigga sellin beans?!

>>61118805
>>61118811
>Anon finally decides his off grid meth lab is financial suicide and morally corrupt

>>61118854
>Breaking Bear

>>61118840
You should be feeling confident in both market types, up and down. It doesn't care. Make money either way.

Are corporate bonds any good?

>>61118874
My concern is that the rates "aren't good", eg if you buy them through a bank, you're getting their dregs they didn't want. Having said that, unless you're buying some absolute shit tier company, I've never had a problem with them, even if the market is rough. I think I was getting 3-5.5% on them, depending. Might be a good place to park your cash long term if you have that weight allocated in your portfolio; otherwise something like SGOV or a money market account is a good way to get daily interest on your temporary cash

>>61118758
Can I steal that line

>>61118805
>>61118811
If I buy it all out with a premium do I get the cook as an employee?

>>61118842
I feel like financial literacy in general is near rock bottom. People only know 1) pick stock and pray 2) give up and buy spy
>>61118874
You're better off just going for the corporations that pay the dividends since they will be qualified. The only exception to that is O which has a high yield tier yield but also grows

>>61118918
>I feel like financial literacy in general is near rock bottom
I dare you to ask random people in the street what savings or investments they have. Just say you're doing an informal survey for your college class.
I guarantee 90% of them will either say none, or if they do, a mutual fund at a bank. So many normalfags think big cash reserve = wealth, which is wrong because they keep it in a debit account and lose to inflation. They don't keep appreciating assets.

And that's when they're not saddled with debt and daily/monthly expenses

>>61118918
babe, this isn't a game where brains serve you. it's something else entirely. i don't know what it is but i know you're doing it wrong, letting pride guide you, clinging to a bad strategy, blinded by spite. and it's not just your investments, it's your heart too. you're a trailblazer, you're independent, and you care more about glory than gains and i admire all of that, but it's not working for you.

>>61118924
tfw this describes me during my first 2 years of full-time employment ;_;

>>61118924
I think worse. I bet most people will say they have a checking/debit account tied to a credit card or two set on automatic payments.

I found a free one!!

>>61118874
No, bonds are shit that always underperforms just about anything in a bull market, and then they underperform just about anything during crises.
>>61118918
I hate it when they pay dividends. Dividends mean they ran out of ideas in their own business and are giving me money back to invest it elsewhere, and I have to take care of it and pay more fees to reinvest. Even when I retire, I'd rather sell and shrink whatever I want instead of having my investments telling me they don't know what to do with money.

>>61118940
CHEAPIES

Is LAR the only mineralshit left that isn't up 500%?
We did bail out Argentina.....

>>61118924
Anon, you're so far into investment vastly overestimating Joe and Jane average.
The sad truth is that thr Averages are living paycheck to paycheck. Savings is what they didn't spend on beer yet.

Looks like a green day today~

>>61118918
What are you doing that you feel is so above just buying SPY or the boglehead method?

>>61118961
NAK. Also NB can still do a 2x to 4x.

>>61118968
>The sad truth is that thr Averages are living paycheck to paycheck. Savings is what they didn't spend on beer yet.
That's what I'm saying! The average person is financially FUCKED. They don't save, and the tiny fraction that do, have it parked as deprecating cash.
How often do you hear people say something like "I'm saving my points for Christmas"? Okay great, they have $500 per year they can spend for holiday shopping, but the other 11 months of the year, they could have just spent them as they accumulated, then put the money into a bond or something. Granted, that'd give them like $15 a year difference, but not making little *choices* like that and stacking is why they're poor

>gold over $4200 now

Its over right, global financial crisis happening in 2026

>>61118917
you can cook the pizzas

>>61118939
I just hit 98k NW this week (maybe even $100k) now that the mineral rally has happened.
I have two credit cards, $0 debt, and maybe like 12-16 accounts across 5 vendors/platforms/banks. I can manage it and each one is useful to me for different things.

Funny leverage

>>61118980
>Its over right, global financial crisis happening in 2026
Sure, but we're not there yet. I'd wager you can be a little bit silly with your money until about February. I'm trimming a bit a in January, and letting my trailing stops do the work after that. Hard to tell when the downturn will kick in, but the music is still playing

Plus if you're savvy, you can probably make money just by rotating into a good sector and/or hedging with OTM puts or VIX

>>61118980
gold rallies at the start of a cycle, not the end of one. it crashed in '08 just like everything else, ditto in 2020.

>>61118980
>global financial crisis happening in 2026
probably. shortly followed by mega stimulus. There will be some casualties. A few socialist utopias may fall into civil war.

>>61118994
It starts going up while the s&p500 goes down for a bit and then it crashes, but then it comes back harder than ever once other countries start going broke.

>>61118973
NAK won't get approved because on of Donald Trump's sons thinks that having a nice fishing spot is worth more than the most valuable mine on Earth.

>>61119011
eth had a bigger move off it's lows than gold this year, and is going to end the year above 5k. gold won't hit 5k until 2040.

>>61118918
People who just buy spy outperform like 90% of all professional traders and institutional investors, let alone retail morons playing around with options, leverage and penny stocks, chasing quick money.

>Copper rebounded after Fed Chair Jerome Powell flagged another US rate cut and traders said a price of $12,000 a ton is within reach

He's such a faggot

>>61119026
Is SPY up 58% last year?

>>61119022
Well, I bought the dip on NAK yesterday. If it rallies, great. If not then oh well you win some you lose some.

>>61119026
This is biz/ which on average gets +30% YoY completely spanking the S&P.

>>61119010
Honestly, people need to read the WEF report every year. It gives a good overview of what the globalists are doing.
https://www.weforum.org/publications/global-risks-report-2025/

>2 year risk horizon: misinformation, weather, wars, polarization, cybercrime
>10 year risk horizon: weather, ecosystem collapse, change to systems, natural resource shortages, misinformation

Look at the REE stuff, gold hoarding, Venezuela oil ... people are getting their chips into place for the next decade. They know there are going to be shortages and they're trying to secure their holdings.

>>61119040
No, the S&P500 was only up 33% last year. Which easily clears 90% of institutional investors, professional traders and retail gamblers. I'm not saying that people can't get lucky every once in a while, but the chances of you outperforming SPY over the next 20 years is not nearly as high as you'd think.

>>61119048
there's plenty of resources in brazil and congo. conflict is the real issue. if usa and china are sinking convoys and funding proxy wars and coups then merchants can't bring goods to market.

>>61119057
yea well that's just like your opinion man

best suicide methods?

>>61119062
South America is a terrible jurisdiction. They keep electing socialists who mismanage the country, get ousted, and it keeps happening again and again. The worst is when the privitize mining companies and make them govt assets, it always ends poorly. Most of the rich copper mines are here.

>>61119065
Having a nap in your garage with your car going.
You CAN afford that, right?

>>61119083
i dont have a garage...

>>61119080
copper demand is very high. usa can't meet it's own needs. csis says 50 new copper projects need to be started per year for the next 2 decades. need global sources.

>>61119048
Blackrock also has an investment podcast

>>61119064
Well, you might think that you are special and some genius investor, but you can't disagree with my statement that SPY outperforms 90% of institutional investors because that is an actual proven fact. So the logical conclusion is that just buying and holding and DCAing into SPY is in fact not a bad choice at all for the vast majority of investors.

>>61119065
Opiate OD probably.

>>61119088
So CPER is the play?

We'll probably see 6700 today, because why not

>>61119104
maybe. suppose they get those projects started and flood the market though. better to invest up the value chain, things the copper goes into, generators, motors, electronic equipment. think tesla is the biggest copper consumer.

>>61119104
>>61119115
For each of uranium, copper, gold, silver, lithium and REEs, I split my allocation 50:50 between a spot etf and a producer etf
For oil, I went IEZ and IEO for domestic production and toolchain suppliers

>>61119026
Question: Why shouldn't I get into Index Futures on leverage though?

>>61119125
Too early for oil bro. The chart looks bearish, going to $45. Pic related.

However, $40 oil is a blessing in its own way because it will force most Permian Basin oil producers to close up shop, which will lead to oil rising back above $65 several months later. H2 2026 is when oil may start to take off again, H1 will be the time to buy the lows and get positioned.

>>61119125
congrats and timed perfectly. but i think a lot of the move has already happened and again think metals like that are early cycle plays. but maybe not, best of luck, i just focus on technology.

getting some sleep. i love you babe. want your trust and affection most of all.

What the fuck? Why EU opens higher than it closed?

>>61119065
Some good news FNMA baggie, its holding green line like last few times so you might see 12 soon again but that doesn't guarantee it is out of downtrend.

Gold

Gold pooomping hard

>>61119153
thats ok, I've never in my entire life got good news about anything.
thanks for trying anon

Silver and Gold started retardpumping 2 days after September FOMC. Says it all.

>>61119158
David H Contrarian raised his gold target to $5000 and silver target to $100 in Q1 2026. Also called RTY rallying up 100% (look at it right now). Watch and learn.

>>61119142
>This time putin is finished frfr

>>61119065
>oh nooo my 8k noooooo
What are you, poor instead of just stupid?
lol

>>61119065
Why do you hold on to the garbage for so long? It took a month for FMCC to slolwy lose 26%, you never thought of selling it?

Bro if I see red in my portfolio at all I get heated. That little red nigger needs to be dealt with.

>>61119065
How do you have negative money?

I told you to buy LVMH, but you never listen.

>>61119147
I've been dipping in and out of a few metals like gold a year or two ago, I have some 220 oz of physical silver from like 8 years ago ... really started doing the etf thing about 4-6 months ago.
I think we're just getting started. Of course there's going to be a pullback at some point, but I think the next 5-10 years is extremely bullish for that sector.

>>61119142
Nobody is talking about oil, which is why I think it's a good play. Just waiting for some international catalyst to force domestic production to ramp up (import agreements, conflict, etc). Everything needs energy... I don't have any gas yet

>>61119213
>That little red nigger needs to be dealt with.
Amen

>>61119216
Those are his loses over time (1day and ~1month).

He is not very good or smart or attentive.

>>61119219
>LVMH
Is this why the Russel is pumping?

>>61119065
Little bit of friendly advice; watch your losses before you cut.

Having a 28% loss means you have to have a 39% win to break even. That's 11% of gains you have to make up.

By comparison, if you cut way sooner at 7% losses, you'd only need a 7.5% win to break even, a 0.5% makeup. The more you lose the harder it is to recover.

Best piece of advice I've gotten so far: overthinkers get shit on in the market, all their plans already got baked into the price. Retards get the bags because they do before they think.

Of course kick the tires after ya buy, that paired with always putting in stops, you cannot lose. Shkreli said so himself and he apparently doesn't follow his own advice. Frikkin king of overthinkers shkreli is, when he steps outta pharma tickers.

No reason any of yous gotta endure another day of having a downslope on yo port charts. Of course mine was pretty down slopey after liberation day, but since April been bouncin up a channel, feelin like it's gonna be a rerun of last year where buncha shitcos popped off left and right.

And I got a retarded notion that china tickers gonna be mooning, like they did last fall. Not a huge china ticker observer but the ones I've looked at are dead calm, too calm...

Spectralsisters, 20 dollars Q4 2026.

>>61119065
>didn't sell off after losing 5% of value invested
>didn't sell off after losing 10% of value invested
>didn't sell off after losing 15% of value invested
>didn't sell off after losing 20% of value invested
>didn't sell off after losing 25% of value invested
>STILL has money invested while they continue to slide into the ground
What are you waiting for, 50% of your value being gone?

>>61119259
Risk management and trade psychology will carry everyone 99% of the way there

>>61119259
>where buncha shitcos popped off left and right.

That's right. In the past 3 days Quantum and all kinds of other shitty small companies with 0 revenue started pumping hard

>>61119259
>overthinkers get shit on in the market
based and redpilled.

I never trade openings, I never check the market until after its been open for at least two hours.

>>61119065
Time to double down

>>61119283
Quantum is real. Nuclear is part of Quantum.

>>61119288
Nucular, it's pronounced nucular.

>>61119142
I'm already accumulating oil, I'm going to get rich on that one is2g

Dang might be china pump season, random ticker that I found by throwing a dart at the Barron's back pages did 8% today but 18% after hours

EZGO

But another one after hours pumping, CBUS, they make dna altered seeds, different process than GMO, and takes months to develop a variant, instead of years. Imma check my notes but they seemed shady, so no long term holding, just in and out don't try to time the top, better to walk away with slightly less profits that a loss or break even

>>61119130
You should on dips but only if watching closely for drawdowns; sell at a loss from the day before if the situation turns red beyond one Trump tweet and wait.

If you're not all in on precious metals and precious metal accessories, then you're NGMI. All of your excuses are bullshit.

Its not a fucking TWEET. ITS A TRUTH!

lol futures

Bears getting fucked as usual

>>61119130
Try it out a few weeks on sim. Harder than ya think

By one yt traders estimates it will take ya 1 year to get consistent in futures trading. I've been at it 9 months, a slight sliver of consistentcy starting to appear, but can't trade 2 days cuz work schedule, so any progress now is to break even.

If you can't devote at least 3 hours a day for either open or close, don't bother, you need to have the ability to concentrate, I thought I could trade at work with limit orders, nah they at best went untouched. Probably need a few years to get good enough for a quick glance one trade then done.

Funny enough I also do value investing and that paid me much sooner than futures. In fact every other ticker I passed on pumped at one point, so now I'm thinkin just to buy 1 share of 12 tickers in basement bin prices, just watch for the start of a pump

>>61119364
Your stocks aren't going up: your money is going down. You should have bought precious metals and precious metal accessories.

Trump is in one of those moods this week where he tries to pound the market down every time things are looking good. Do you guys think he'll do it again today?

Being all in on 1 stock is better than being spread out... It just is more profitable...
T. PLUGmaxi

>>61119322
>une

Selling my BITF tomorrow morning. Finally made my money back + good profit from holding it in the 2022 crash. Might go up more, but I don't want to make the same mistake again. Not sure what to do with the profit, I think I'll just sit on it and wait for an opportunity. Still holding BTM from $1, as well as a smaller position in Jnug which I got @$60.

>>61119322
You should have bought them in 2021 or 2022.

my folio lookin sus senpai

made $8 today...is dis how i get rich bros

Lol uuuu dumps when I "buy the dip"
Of course
5-26 is no problem but 26-27 so I can scalp a call is obviously out of the question.
Its almost funny how hard I dump stocks.
I'm buying shit out of spite now. I WANT to lose money.
Its called baggiemaxxing. Fuck this and fuck all of you.
Oh I have a 103 TQQQ call? Of course it dumps and crabs between 102 and 103 forever.
64 and 65 strike Ibit calls that I waited for not only a big drop but waited even more for that faggot baron to close his shorts?
Of course it dumps to 62 and will crab there until Friday.
Its like someone is watching my trades and absolutely making sure I never make any sort of profit.
Again, I don't even fucking care.
What's next? Plug calls? Nbis? Sign me up.
I'll end this fucking bull run

>>61119457
Dump quantum. I HATE those faggots.

>>61119457
Let me know what you are going to buy next bro, I want to take an opposite position to get giga wealthy.

NBIS and coreweave etc will get fucked (slowly and gently over the next year) and nbis may end up near 60 - 70 before being buyable

WLAC which is a fucking despac of all things will go up in that timeframe, but never reach the valuations nbis or crwv did

Oh the one trade I made actual money on? (SLV calls)
I WAS TOO MUCH OF A FUCKING PUSSY TO BUY MORE THAN 8 CONTRACTS AND SOLD AT A 50% PROFIT WHEN IT COULD HAVE BEEN 100+% RIGHT NOW.
DONT BE GREEDY I TOLD MYSELF. SILVER IS MANIPULATED I TOLD MYSELF.
EVEN *I* WONT LET ME MAKE IT.
I CANT EVEN MAKE MONEY ON FUCKING VOO.

>>61119457
>>61119475

How can we copytrade?

>sneed oil stocks
You've got to be fucking kidding me. What do I buy to get this return NOW???

is the crash canceled?

Is Jesse Livermore legit to listen too?

Oh so we are just mooning again on nothing but bad news all across
cool cool

>>61119527
That niggas dead for 100 years
Btw gold / silver mooning again

>>61119534
>>61119488
You could argue, looking at this, that it's good for US stocks as all those threats and measures will cause US goods prices to spike which means more profit for US companies. It's bad for the consumer, for the people, but that's obviously irrelevant.

>>61119475
You don't have conviction. Don't invest in things you don't have absolute faith in and be ready to hold long term. Investing 101.

I dont know why this nigger site keeps changing my id
Ever see someone rugpull...themselves?
Watch this
>makes the stims stop working randomly
>makes dyslexia get worse somehow
>any minute now my heart is gonna give me the gift of afib
Uh oh now I'm homeless lol.
Oh damn too bad I'm not allowed to make it in the nigger market so now I have nothing to fall back on lol lmao
What the fuck do you want from me?
I'm 31 never had my cock in a cunt and haven't had friends in like 15 years. I'm reduced to rambling like a schizo on 4nigger
Fine whatever that's my lot in life.
I used whatever tools were available to me to get through school and work.
I'm personable at work despite all the autism and chudness in my heart.
I help people and give my faggot relatives money when they ask without ever asking for anything back.
Can you just let me have one ONE fucking safety net please???

TSM can't stop winning.

Kinda don't wanna top up here though because my average is only 200 usd.

>>61119547
I ruined my life also but you can make it better by not saying the n word :)

>>61119547
Gold and silver.

>>61119543
Here, some fucking conviction.

genuine question, when getting into this should i just go all in and spend thousands or am all right with adding tens of dollars when im comfortable and slowly building up, I'm a NZer and have about $500 into my account across three ETFs and three companies, with more buys waiting overnight, been doing this for about 5 months and only this month have enough where I think it would be fine to gamble more

>>61119554
Lol you sure you want me to buy something you're holding?
SLV elevatored down and crabbed for like 3 painful days when I bought those calls.
Same with gold. I can't even afford long GLD calls I had to buy that dogshit IAU and it was stressfull as fuck trying to sell my contract at 40% profit.

>>61119559
Your money is monopoly money doing anything that isn't holding NZ dollar is better

>sold everything
>lost most of monthly earnings

learning discipline, no longer fomoing into w/e is on the news. daytrading, no trading blue chip stock (only small cap). successfully opened a charles schwab account (currently using webull)

>f*ck options
>f*ck using margin (except to use to avoid the pdt limit)
learn to day trade CORRECTLY.

thank you for reading my blog and have a wonderful day.

>>61119457
Sell all your shit and go all in on a stock that you like. Make it your personality and shill it at every giving opportunity. Only ever buy never sell

>>61119574
so true yeah two of the ETFs are NZ managed, the rest are US and Australian, I'm thinking of just dumping all what I've put into the ETFs into a company and just starting from scratch with something else

Oh
Well. Sidelined again. Every time I enter full port the market mega rugs and jumps
around. I take shallow profits and the next day everything surges 20% non stop until I decide to buy in at which point it pivots down again. Without fucking fail. I hate this market so fucking much.

Anyone else listen to Tom Luongo?

His recent interview is about the Civil War we're already in, and how UK its former colonies are being liquidated, the City of London financiers have mostly moved their assets to Dubai and Qatar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo6_WmT9dAY

>>61119583
Have you not seen the figger mae position I'm stuck bagholding?

And what was this pump now? Another OpenAI collab?

>>61119559
Just go all in on brkb until you actually know what you're doing and you can explain it to a budding 12 year old white girl to the point where they understand it

There still time for APLD sidelinesisters?

>>61119593
it was me
i did it

>>61119474

why is NBIS going to get fucked?

>>61119590
>With a decade of experience as a newsletter editor and contributor for Newsmax Tom Luongo has pushed the line between where politics and markets intersect with a fierce intellectual honesty.

where did he go to school? because if its not harvard, georgetown, or cambridge i cba

>>61119598
i know what i'm doing i'm just broke and in an irrelevant country :(

>>61119610
If you knew what you were doing you wouldn't have asked /smg/ and you wouldn't be broke

>>61119616
okay i lied i'm not broke i'm a pussy

Yeah my IRA is definitely hitting an ATH today, BIGLY.

>>61119619
You're not a pussy you just haven't convinced yourself that you know what you're doing, which means there's hope for you
Good for you man, go read intelligent investor, security analysis, little book that beats the market, nomad partnership letters
In that order

>>61119556
why would you invest in a state junk mortgage company? everyone knows when the state is involved the business is garbage

>UUUU only up 3.5% premarket
That's it, the bull run is fucking over

>>61119219
Sorry but I'm not poor and own Hermès instead.

>>61119636
False, intel is a good counterexample
Return on incremental capital is huge at a scale intel foundry hasn't reached yet
Govt and fabless corps gave it the boost it needed to avoid monopoly from tsmc

>>61119606
new ways of training ai models that cut training time (rented compute) from weeks to one to two days.
so unless new, more intensive sloppa gets made that requires long terms of professional compute to train, growth will slow bigly

>>61119026
Im up 29% in individual stocks just the last 4 months. Spy is good if you want to play it safe, are too retarded to do research or panic seller. which I believe most people are.

they'll open the whole market to red again wont they

MY CHECKLIST, NOT YOURS
October 15
Gossip barbed with our anger, a polite form of murder by character assassination, has its satisfactions for us, too. Here we are not trying to help those we criticize; we are trying to proclaim our own righteousness.

TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 67

Sometimes I don't realize that I gossiped about someone until the end of the day, when I take an inventory of the day's activities, and then, my gossiping appears like a blemish in my beautiful day. How could I have said something like that? Gossip shows its ugly head during a coffee break or lunch with business associates, or I may gossip during the evening, when I'm tired from the day's activities, and feel justified in bolstering my ego at the expense of someone else.

Character defects like gossip sneak into my life when I am not making a constant effort to work the Twelve Steps of recovery. I need to remind myself that my uniqueness is the blessing of my being, and that applies equally to everyone who crosses my path in life's journey. Today the only inventory I need to take is my own. I'll leave judgment of others to the Final Judge — Divine Providence.

It can feel good in the moment anon but try not to gossip. A life worth living means helping others not hurting others. If there is a trader in need be kind to him, by doing so you are really helping yourself spiritually. If a trader pisses you off let God judge him and leave yourself out of unnecessary conflict. Be the best trader you can be anon, take inventory of your day and always be looking to improve no matter how uncomfortable change can be.

>>61119026
Source? I see this claim a lot.
Are the professionals benchmarking against the s&p or the risk free rate with less volatility because their clients are already wealthy? (Allows scheduled withdrawals without impact e.g. hedge)
Have you analysed absolute return funds with the Graham value based framework? I think not but feel free to mock, parrot and live in blissful ignorance

>>61119691
Nigger im up almost 300% since Jan. I bought MP and TungF when they were still cheap. its that makes me a retard then im glad im retarded

I keep shorting this clown market and keep losing money. I don't know why I do this to myself.

>>61119713
you can’t even @ the right person

and 300% is peanuts

my point is that what the other anon said is correct, and your single data point does nothing to undermine it. by presenting it as if it does, you have outed yourself as a brianlet

>>61119710
have you done even one iota of research towards any of the questions you asked?

>>61119760
You guys do your own research?
I just perform a cursory vibecheck on a bunch of social media platforms, /smg/ posts and cnbc headlines and go from there.

Gold and Silver Chads, WAGMI

>>61119734
>picrel
Kek
It's always funny to see what memes specifically trigger the janny

>>61119382
>>61119382

I LOVE GOLD
I LOVE SILVER
I LOVE COPPER
I LOVE URANIUM
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

>>61119583
Agreed. You gotta push it

>>61119586
Honestly stop listening to the morons here. I don't know if the BOBOs are real or if theyre just MUMUs in disguise but when everyone starts piling on muh collapse, you fucking buy

>>61119760
Yes I have and yes I'm outperforming the s&p with less risk

>>61119786
>>61119797
Based

>>61119598
I bought brkB in April with everything else. It was the only position I bought that went down. I made 100" gains in 6 months but that little nigger sat there

Latest Orange Man Update (if you missed the meeting / press conference with Argentina):

He's hard for Argentina and the current president being re-elected. They have quite
>A lot
And could be
>Very rich if they re-elect him
And if not
>Maybe not quite so rich
End quote.

>>61119809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi_fq7rjxAo

>>61119040
You got lucky id like to see you return 58% a year over multiple years. If you could you'd be a billionaire

>>61119734
>>61119788
Jannies don't do anything unless you report a post

>>61119810
I'm sorry that you track your performance all the way back to April this year
Welcome

>>61119284
Never trading the open and waiting hours to trade sounds like overthinking it. I trade volatility and reversals at open and some days I make my daily profit goals in literally fifteen or twenty minutes. One day last week I made goal in seven minutes. Catch the trend, ride the wave, no overthinking

Reminder to short the VIX

Got 10k. Which rare earths boomercorp am I putting it in to?

>>61119808
>muh performance
that’s not relevant to any of the questions you posed

>>61119826
April was the last decent pullback. Keep up little guy

>>61119861
When

>>61119219
H-how did you know?

CCJ
DNN
UEC
UUUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRTrCc_y0xg

>>61119890
You keep up, since 1959 Buffett has been communicating to his investors that during bull markets he will underperform the index and during flat/bear he will outperform and that on average he will outperform in the long run yet you're here crying smugly about underperformance of brk when you bought it in a dip followed by a 33% ytd rip

>>61119917
> no NextGen
whut?

>>61119925
Berkshire can start deploying into commodities producers under new CEO. He has history in commodities.

>>61119865
USCMF
TUNGF

>>61119934
Good resource they're sitting on, but not a personal fan of NXE, management is running it like a lifestyle corp expecting Orano or Cameco to come in and buy them out. DNN is probably the only one that's going to go into production this cycle by 2028.

>extremely skittish retail
>SP500 can drop 1% over a Trump announcement that he will look again at soibean oil imports from China
And people still believe we are actively in a bubble, even near the top?

>>61119957
ass and pee 500 is indeed in a bubble
and it does not take a genius to notice that

>>61118661
god i wish

>>61119641
>owning a Hermès handbag
Gurl you have no style

>>61119957
Retail is skittish because everyone with at least two brain cells knows these valuations are bullshit, but nobody wants to stop playing this game of musical chairs because they think they can get out in time when the music stops. This is what it gets like near the top. People aren't stupid.

should i sell my TSLA? It's not doing anything

>>61119980
Alright I will listen to anon's guaranteed 140 IQ insight instead of the insight of analysts like Tom Lee.

Silver futures are super high. Do I buy?

>>61119984
Tesla is overvalued as fuck

>>61119992
Silver miners? They are so darn cheap it's incredible compared to silver spot price.

>>61119997
ok imma sell it and buy IONQ or...GRND?

>>61119026
You will make them seeth, it would be a bait post if it wasn't true

>>61119988
>insight of analysts like Tom Lee.
KEK
I hope for your sake that you're being sarcastic. Tom Lee is a charlatan and a crook, like everyone involved in the crypto "industry". His ilk are the cancer killing the stock market.

Moment of truth... 6625 today but will it bounce or go lower? Whale dumping will give us a hint in crypto

>>61119992
As >>61120003 says, buy miners. Look at the SILJ/SI1! ratio chart.

>>61119988
ANALYSTS LIKE BRUCE LEE

>>61119974
I mean shares.

>>61120007
no idea what these are

No matter what the market does, we stay based here.

>>61120010
I don't care about his crypto predictions, I agree he's out of his area with these.

Why do so many dumbfucks online type their posts as if the other people reading it had anything to do with current valuations? Do they understand that a bunch of faggots on twitter, reddit or /biz/ had nothing to do with the current price of SPX or nvda or google etc?
They could all make a concerted effort to move any ticker on the Spee by 10bps and they wouldn't have made it.

>>61119907
When it pumps
Contracts settle on Tuesday into Wednesday at market open. It always has a fake and gay pump on Tuesday. Always short it heading into the weekend if it pumps. If we get a big VIX spike any time between now and Friday, I'm going all in shorting VIX calls like I always do.

>>61120055
I think you're the dumbfuck for thinking that others think so... No... I'm the dumbfuck for thinking that you think that others think so... Wait

>>61120063
What makes you think you know _WHEN_ it peeked?

>>61120069
>>61120055
ssssh, I'm trying to think here

I don't want to buy in because I know they will dumb it on me.

>>61120050
He's not just making uninformed statements. He was promoting crypto shit before he started his own "treasury company" and actively got into the scam. Why would anyone care what a scumbag like that says?
Anyway, you don't need to listen to him to know his opinion on anything even tangentially related to tech. He thinks it'll go up and if it goes up, he thinks it'll go up even more. If it goes down, he thinks it'll bounce back soon and hit an ATH.

>>61120071
Because it always goes down over enough time. When it pumps like on Friday for example, you'd be retarded not to naked short VIX contracts calls.

Nothing ever happens. Volatility is a Jewish spook. When VIX is up, short it. Don't be a goy and buy inflated premiums on options when you can just literally print money shorting the Jewish boomer doomer VIX

>>61120055
>Why do so many dumbfucks online type their posts as if the other people reading it had anything to do with current valuations?
Nah, you're the dumbfuck for thinking people believe so... No...I'm the dumbfuck for thinking that you think so...Wait

>>61120085
Yes, but it could go higher before down.
You short too early and you say sayonara to your cash.

>One bank does poorly
>Markets: oh well, recovery pump +2%!
>One bank does "well"
>Markets: OMG BUY BUY BUY THIS IS A SIGN ITS ALL GOOD

Kek bobos
>Muh basedbeans
>Muh mofcom

>>61120080
Also, buying gold would have been good. Few years ago. Why buy now and end up bagholding like people did in 1980's, 2000's, and other meltups.

>>61118874
if you bought before rates started to go down, bonds are all about the interest rate game.. I bought a bunch of JNK cause im collecting 7% and the price in theory should go up per share as the rates are slowly dropped, although much of it is priced in
tldr Bonds are only good if you buy in before rates start dropping

>>61120094
The VIX is not a stock. It's an indicator. It will always go down. The same way RSI will always revert to 45. The over time average is that VIX will revert to 0, and that's why shorting it on pumps is free money.
>Surely this wick is different!
Short it. Take huge profits. Wait for it to pump again. Short it. Take profits. Etc etc.

>>61120100
Funny how you said exactly same stuf few years ago when gold was at 1700. And at 2000. and at 3000. it's always "teh top for gold" for you.

>>61120106
Yes it will, but you don't know when is the top.
But have fun if you want to test your luck. I don't have any will to test mine shorting it.

>>61120114
It's okay, you're just retarded and I support the mentally retarded. Maybe GRR or gamb would be more your speed?

100% invested into this

>>61120109
But I didn't.

>>61119797
Throw in LAC. My lithium do a lil sum sum.

>tfw no gf
How many shares of LGO do you have to sell (after it pumps) to be able to get teenage gf?

>>61120100
Line will go up

>>61120122
But you would, wouldn't you? Just admit you don't understand why gold rices in USD terms.nnss

I've been looking for something to buy but everything is up massively over the past year. I did come across an ETF for Turkish stocks which is basically flat for the year.
What do anons think about buying some Turkish stocks?

>>61120132
>Turkish economy anything
Bro that sounds like the most terrible strat ever uttered in /smg/

>>61120132
Do you see Turkey going out of their perpetual recession?

>>61120130
They print and it raises, like most assets. But looking at the charts, gold also goes sideways for long periods of time, after meltups. And you don't want to baghold for a decade or more.
I should have bought it few years ago.

*ahhh*

...that first sip

>>61120140
Yes, and there was a specific reason why it was sideways. These reasons does not exist now and there is no sight for them going back any time soon.

>>61120132
>>61120138
The country as a whole looks promising though. The companies there aren't as good as the US for example, obviously, but the prices are extremely low, which makes me think they might outperform when shit hits the fan in the US (and we know it will).

>>61119980
This is the correct answer

>>61120106
show your previous succes with shorting the vix then huh fag.
It's a futures contract retard, it isn't just as simple as shorting and waiting for it to drop because your contracts can expire in the meantime

>>61120150
The stock market does not map 1:1 onto a country's actual economy. It's wise to regard these two things as relatively separate things.

>>61120150
I mean, even in shittiest economy there are companies that may perform better than real inflation but Turkey has a lot of problems on top of economical ones. Starting with ErDOGan.

>>61119980
ok so buy the momentum and sell before close everday from here on out?

>>61120076
ahhh the great outdoors

>>61120142
> Americans have apps for nigger chicken fast food built into their cars

>>61120106
So you're advising us to listen to the guy outperforming the market with a single variable strategy that "absolutely cannot blow up spectacularly" and happened to be nearly homeless last year?

>>61119861
because surely the vix is going to settle down with the market still making 1% moves in either direction multiple times a day, lmao
well it might settle down, above 20

>>61120132
>buying a 30+%/year inflation country, if not 60%/year
lol

>>61120150
>but the prices are extremely low
Prices of stocks are low for a reason sometimes. Not an overreaction but an exit from failed political and economic action. If the US has issues Turkey wont out perform but completely collapse.

>>61120171
Not to mention the level of corruption

>>61120132
>>61120150
Turkey's economy is growing well but it's all undermined by Erdogan's genuinely fucktarded monetary policy making their currency worthless. Their stocks are flat because the devaluation of their currency has basically kept purchasing power flat in spite of good economic growth. I'd only even consider buying Turkish stocks once Erdogan fucked off.

>>61120177
I won't pretend it's currently any better in the US though.

>>61120109
They'll end up taxing the shit out of it* to put you ebil tax dodging narziez outta business.

>*Retail only. Obviously.

I hope the retarded AI bubble boys ITT try to short gold and then kys themselves. That would make me very, very happy. I know some of you are already shorting gold, raise your hands.

>>61118673
>So naturally arabs would take two or three people and use triangulation to root out gay people

Fucking kek. Imagine having the amount of time and hatred for this

CAPTCHA HNYGR

gold is going to buckbreak stocks bigly

>>61120171
>>61120174
>>61120183
That's the thing though. Politicians come and go, but if the underlying economic structure is good, then stocks will do well in the long term. Right now, people don't consider Turkish stocks because they either don't know countries other than the US, Western Europe, China and Japan have stock markets, or they're extremely negative on the country because of Erdogan's retardation. Once he's fucked off, Turkish stocks will probably no longer be the bargain they are now.

>>61120171
730 EUR for a bing bing wahoo console. The fuck.

>>61120163
excuse you, that is high class chicken fast food

>>61118918
All I do for stock picks is look at the market cap and then think if it could reasonably go up. I think costco is way too small at 400m if walmart and amazon are many times that. companies like rocket lab will almost certainly grow if they stay in their place in the market (gotta DCA here tho since it’s so expensive).
I think apple has trillions to go, they don’t really have competition
I really think spacex is undervalued because of their constellation, that thing alone is worth trillions maybe

but realistically all I do i trade 0dte spy

>>61120185
No, it's indeed not better. It's much much worse there.

>>61120212
Yeah but that could be fucking YEARS from now. Unless you want to hold Turkish stock bags for years and swallow that opportunity cost, the only real play would be to wait until Erdogan's confirmed gone and buy as soon as the announcement's made.

>>61120212
dealing with turks is the worst in my business. Or they do is beg, low ball & lie to my employees. They do this because im white, they think they can trick you because your not turkish. kek

>>61120212
lol so we are supposed to wait 39 more years?

>>61120212
>Politicians come and go
Go look at how low Erodgans been there. Its not america with elections every 4-8 years where the party changes.

Im utterly buttbroken by this market, the economy and life in general. Im priced out of everything. Even if I was deluded enough to get a girlfriend in order to qualify for a mortgage that isnt in the nigger projects, im still waging my entire life of the whims of a fucking whore. And then I live with one. Buy cheap you say? Banks wont lend you. The liqudity in those areas is dogshit.
Im so close to just saying fuck it and relaxmaxxin by working the fewest hours possible. Fuck this gay society and boomers and their nigger golems

>>61118749
He's to smart, the retarded public won't vote for him. They want a spectacle

>>61120219
And even there, you'll get one of his sons or son-in-law or something that will take the seat.

>>61120223
Just invest retard doomer. Line up go.

What will the next tweet of Trump be like? Dump or pump?

>>61119925
Kek seeeeeeethe

>>61120183
Id go full balls depth on one of those emerging markets Indian funds like INQQ (the guy running it actually has some decent ideas, e.g. he's targetting all the western like e-commerce platforms in India and emerging markets, like their local versions of doordash - Zomato - etc). I just.... I just can't help but think the benchods are gonna let me down with some sort of hijinx or another.

He also discusses emerging markets in Latin America.

But if you're interested, asking whichever AI you prefer for a brief list of the holdings in the INQQ fund and what services they provide in India as an example.

>>61120157
Sneed

>>61120234
Performance on a SP500 level with 5 times the risk ... growthsisters we are eating good

>>61120237
Lol

>>61120230
Please short gold. You'll become a millionaire by proving to us that nothing ever happens.

>>61120234
PajeETF, no thank you. This >>61120237

>sell ASML yesterday before earning because it always plunged
>it moons
FUCK

>>61120223
>Im priced out of everything.
I bet you were saying that a year ago right?

Rest of the post is pure cope. Get a fucking job and go to the gym you lazy faggot.

Ahhh, premarket looking nice. What kind of tweet will trump send out today to destroy another market day.

>>61120249

>>61120249

>>61120249

>>61120132
BRK bro, is that you making another great decision?

IREN 75 USD pre-market

This retarded stock never goes down.

>>61120230
Pulled out yesterday, I am not holding this nigger market
>>61120247
Im up 20% on the year so technically I did that but it makes fuckall difference

>>61120248
something something WAHHHH China

>>61120248
Fingers crossed, that will PAMP gold some more

>>61119109
EZ

>>61120258
That's because I didn't buy when it was shilled here at $42
Enjoy the run to $150 lol

>>61120240
Why would i short gold? im long gold, silver, lithium, uranium and tech.

>>61120363
I was shilling at $8

>>61120412
Nice, but I only started a month amd a half ago.
Managed to get APLD at $23, it's performing nicely too.

>entirety of yesterday and today morning I felt somehow too fearful to check out my portfolio
>open the app today anyway and see I entirely recouped my loss since before the Trump Friday announcement
God is great

>>61120034
that t-shirt is based. know where i can get one?

hmm crypto is freefalling

>>61120412
You mean you made one single post a year ago.

>>61119423
Sold BITF this morning @8.83, and the stock is currently sitting at 8.13 Seems like I made a good choice. Might re-enter if we see the market correct for a few weeks and it goes back to the low 6-ish range.

>>61122492
CND prices by the way in case anyones confused.