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This thread is for ouji and aristocrat (aka "boystyle") discussion. "Boystyle" is shorthand for "boystyle lolita" and refers to the masculine counterparts of Japanese lolita and, often, aristocrat fashions. There is a lot of overlap between these styles, and different people use different terms to describe them. We usually just use "ouji" here.

>Shopping spreadsheet
This is broken, now. Can it be fixed?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j7sg2_7CvXUeIgZGGSLvJ9lUUuSVXhW8FlWWFwiv1Yk/edit?usp=docslist_api

>Buttcape-sensei's shopping guide (mentions which brands/shops have men's or custom sizes):
https://stephano.me/blog/where-to-buy-ouji-fashion/

>Blogs for info
buttcape[.]blogspot[.]com
https://ouji-armoire.tumblr.com/tags
https://classical-alice.com/2018/03/09/%e7%9a%87%e5%ad%90%e3%83%bb%e7%8e%8b%e5%ad%90%e7%b3%bb%e3%83%ad%e3%83%aa%e3%82%a3%e3%82%bf%e3%83%95%e3%82%a1%e3%83%83%e3%82%b7%e3%83%a7%e3%83%b3%e3%81%ae%e7%89%b9%e5%be%b4%e3%81%a8%e3%83%96%e3%83%a9/ (in Japanese)
https://www.zhihu.com/question/398686032 (in Chinese; tap "read more" for a nice rundown of taobao ouji brands, which begin below the "couple clothes" section.)


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Discussion: Black Butler is coming back. Are you ready to be mistaken for a Ciel cosplayer again?

new AatP when? here's the most recent

>>10868639

Mana-sama and Makoto in EGA for the members-only Moitie salon

in spring, Miho Matsuda offered 2 lengths for short pants: one for regular ouji and one for those who don't mind the Black Butler confusion

>>10868645
please kys

remember looking at GLB scans of ouji and guessing what they were about?

modern technology removes a lot of that guesswork. imagine the terminology debates that could have been avoided if anyone could easily run a page thru Google Translate back in the old-school days.

>>10868656
take google translate with a grain of salt, anon. it's crowd sourced and most submissions are from non-native speakers. there are also a ton of words that are localized into english and not translated at all.

>>10868666
100%

additionally, for busy pages it does very little.

even so, we could have been much more informed if it had been available.

new jacket with buttcape

it's happening again

AatP has fully given up

>>10871356

so AatP hasn't given up completely

>>10872800
I'm so fucking happy I got it

>>10870616

spooky pants

>>10876476

who tf is buying this

>>10878612
It's not my style at all but I don't see a problem with it. Just ornamentation for a more nature-themed gothic coord.

>>10868640
where to find boots like in the rightmost pic?

>>10878746
are those not the clara short boots?

is it easy to get away with wearing nice normie pants with ouji?

>>10879459
secounding this but also vintage pants, wil they work? I’m tall and I dont have much hope that brand long pants will be long enough.

>>10879463
>>10879459
ouji doesn't use long pants.

>>10879485
are you new? ouji has always included varying pant lengths.

>>10879526
NTA but no it hasn't.

>>10879485
>>10879530
yes it has, gtfoh

>>10879463
>>10879459
aatp pants run the gamut in terms of cut, so check out their past collections for inspo on what kinds of pants tend to look good with brand blouses, vests, and jackets.

>>10871356
They cannot be serious

Requesting casualish coord inspo w/ straight cut shorts.

>>10879459
Seems like a good way to dip your toes into ouji and build up the confidence to wear weirder coords. Eventually, you'll want to get ouji-specific pants too though because more elaborate outfits will look kind of unbalanced with normies dress pants. Buy the rest of your coord first and compare different pants critically to make sure they look okay.

>>10879548
>using a magazine spread
kek anon no

>>10879741
gull alice and the pirates has released long pants from the start

>>10879740
i got u

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>>10879775
>everything a brand releases is lolita
This is how we know you're new.

>>10879800
So brand releases and magazine spreads are both wrong. We have to guide ourselves with whatever a western anon pulls out of their ass instead.

>>10879884
lol

there's always some dumbass saying the dumbest shit itt. absolutely bottom-of-the-barrel ragebait.

oldschool ouji used to supplement their coords by using anything from bloomers to normie uniqlo pants. as the red-headed step-sibling of lolita fashion, some creative resourcing is often required to fill out a wardrobe that doesn't look like shit.

>pic related, the ouji has vivienne westwood shoes and a gaultier bag but for pants basically says "dunno"

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>>10879892
NTA but you can read Japanese resources you know.

>>10879972
sources past and present are clear on the subject. some gulls just like to troll. it doesn't matter how much evidence we present, or what kind. they will reject it and continue to make the dumbest, most unfounded claims possible. it's a known pattern.

>>10879972
you mean the ones that say long pants have always been an option?

loving ouji hurts sometimes

what are you getting this f/w season, /ouG/?

How the fuck do people wear standard brand OTKs? They are too thin for my shoes. It's like wearing tights with sneakers.

>>10882275
if the shoes are uncomfortable i usually layer a pair or two of "no show" socks in the same color of the OTK

>>10882324
you're supposed to layer socks underneath.

>>10882420
yes.. i assumed that much was obvious

>>10882445
then they don't need to be the same color, retard.

>>10882463
you wouldn’t wear dark color socks under a white pair dumb fuck