>cosplay capitol of the world
>never discussed on cgl in the 2 years I have lurked

What gives? I am going to Japan this year and no one I know in the gull group I am knows anything about this place, and I don't see any threads here about it. You think with the expensive hotels and bars people go to that there would be at least some slow general here about Comiket or some of the shows like Tokyo Comic Con. I got a flight from Dallas to Tokyo for a bit over 800(only 1 checked bag though) which isn't that bad compared to costs I would pay for ANYC and the hotels for a weekend but there I get a full 12 nights...

What gives why does cgl never post about Japan all that much?

most people here dont live in japan and attending comiket is as rigid as a pilgrimage to mecca

Comiket has good cosplay but /cgl/ only cares about english speaking drama

>>10953624 (OP)
because its very expensive

>>10953658
Compared to what I paid for ANYC last year? Hardly
>round trip
500 w/ luggage
>taxi from the airport because NO to that subway and I thought dart was bad
100
>hotels
~300/night
>food
lol no more dollar slices, I paid about 30 a day and I am not even fat
>badge
like 85?
All said and done I spent around 2k, granted I split the room so it was closer to 1.3-1.5k but still; That leads my to my next point I am taking a flight from DFW to NRT for 800 with a free bag, my hotels are <50/night at a chain called APA, comiket tickets are supposedly 20-30 for the weekend. All in all I am spending roughly the same for Japan AND comiket than I spent for a 4 night stay. like wtf

>>10953658
Not really. Domestic travel in the US is fucking expensive, especially hotels

>>10953664
cgl be like "wow only 800 for the weekend at AX! and then drinks and transportation for 400 more! sign me up!" but "hey now 1200 for a week in Japan yea.. cringe bro"

>>10953675
And frankly, the convention blocks are a steal compared to a lot of downtown rates unless you snap up some flash sale on a site like Agoda (unlikely for the cons around memorial day, or the Kalaharis).

Domestic travel is such a ripoff post-Covid. Just get a points card to cover your airfare and go to Asia or Europe.

>>10953624 (OP)
Aren't cons different in Japan compared to the West? Like you have to buy a photographer pass to actually take pictures of cosplayers, and you have to wait in long lines to take pics of them too. Also, they're mostly for buying doujin

>>10953683
Yeah, cosplaying is strict at places like comiket - it's a separate thing entirely, you can only do it in certain area at certain times, it's not a free for all cosplay all day at the actual event kind of thing like we do in the west. And yeah like you said it's for buying doujin. You aren't allowed to cosplay inside.

>>10953688
Cringe as fuck JP cons are dogshit

>>10953692
It's not an anime convention, or even a convention at all. It's a Comic Market hence Comiket. It's a marketplace to buy doujin. People cosplaying inside the comic market would be an inconvenience to both buyers and sellers as they'd be taking up space with people stopping to take photos, crowding up the halls. Over 100k people go, it'd just be a nightmare for crowd control.

>>10953688
That's mostly for the professional stuff, it's a market but the only real difference is no panels.

>>10953688
>>10953693
that actually sucks ngl

>>10953624 (OP)
>What gives why does cgl never post about Japan all that much?
I think that's more of /jp/'s thing, check over there around the time of one of the comikets to see if they're talking about it. Maybe try /trv/ as well, though they're more likely to be discussing landmarks and soaplands instead of events.

>Dallas
Ah, a fellow DFW gull! My condolences.

>>10953692
>>10953701
Comiket isn't an anime convention as we know it in the west, so don't expect the same vibe or rules when you're going to a completely different kind of event.

>>10953717
>don't expect the same vibe or rules when you're going to a completely different kind of event
That's asking for a lot considering how every nerd event in the US now has weeb shit bleed over into it

>>10953745
Yeah. In the US. Comiket is in Japan. Don't apply US anime convention expectations to a Japanese comic market event (that's near 8x bigger than the biggest anime convention in the US as well)

>>10953749
still lame desu

>>10953751
it's like showing up to a book fair and getting mad nobody's in costume

>>10953683
They go ~8-10am till about 6PM and then room parties are scheduled or most people just do karaoke or scheduled after party off site. They are almost the same but just more corporate IMO you do X here for Y hours before Z happens over at anotherplace.

> Like you have to buy a photographer pass to actually take pictures of cosplayers, and you have to wait in long lines to take pics of them too.
that's for the professional cosplayers and super popular ones not the normal ones. Are you thinking of the cosplay photoshoot area? that as a cosplayer you need to be doing pics and poses at, but it's kinda lose if a vendor asks you for something you can do that so long as it doesn't fuck the lines.

>>10953693
>it's not a con it's a market
Ah right I forgot most markets have live performances, sneak peaks at anime upcoming, cosplay areas, food trucks, guest voice actors hosting panels to the general public, and scheduled after parties for dances/raves/bar themed events...Right.

So tired of people in the USA telling me ~It NoT a CoN GuyZ~. Sure it's got market in the name but any con I would go back to in america I get the same vibes here. Oh no they don't have a panel asking Johnny Young Bosch what his favorite roll was for the 9001 time or How my favorite character is actually an LGBTQIAP+ supporter... what ever will I do.

I went to winter comiket last december and it was damn near 1:1 outside of the hours of operation(if you exclude afterparties at places like mogra) as back home.

>>10954614
It's mainly a market with other shit that got attached to it because of its reputation. Anime Impulse in Los Angeles is much the same but it's called a convention for reasons we do not fully understand
catchpa: VAGNA

>>10954622
>it's called a convention for reasons we do not fully understand
Many such cases with what conventions in the US are all slowly turning into.

>>10953624 (OP)
>no one I know in the gull group I am knows anything about this place, and I don't see any threads here about it

most western weaboos are not otaku. there used to be more crossover in the '00s but that gen is older and harder to find now. anime is in the marvel phase.

i've been to comiket in the past two years and it's like a giant scholastic book/doujin fair. getting/buying a wristband is easy as shit.

thing is, there really are a fuckton of people and it takes an hour to get in, an hour to get out, and an hour to get there via packed train and the thing only runs until 4pm so you really have to plan your shit. it's worse if you want to cosplay since you have to change there and hang around the photography areas. i rarely saw cosplayers in the main halls.

but it's really worth it to go at least once. it was really cool meeting yoshitoshi abe. he was with his wife and sharing a tiny table with some other artist. nobody was really talking to him, probably because nobody has time while trying to hit up all their favorite lolioppai bdsm artists.

>>10954614
I don't get why you're mad that I said it's not an anime convention *as we know it in the west*. Comiket's main purpose is buying and selling doujin, anime conventions *in the west* are more about the guests/panels. They share similarities, sure, but they are different, it's kind of like how we have both conventions and expos. Comiket is more like an expo.

>>10954628
It's weird how much of the crossover is gone now, and particularly how little influence the Japanese fandom has on the Western one now. When I got into anime in the early '00s people knew the Japanese fan terms, what the trends and memes (wouldn't have called them that then though) were, etc., now the western scene is kind of its own thing. On top of that I also see constant huge misconceptions about the Japanese scene too, people basically made up their own headcanons about the culture behind the shows they were watching and they've been repeated so much that belief in them has become widespread. This applies to other Japanese nerd culture stuff like lolita too, and also particularly to 4chan, which was very closely linked and influenced by Futaba and other Japanese internet culture in the early day (I used to be able to shock my Japanese otaku friends/colleagues all the time by knowing about stuff I'd picked up here) and that's pretty much all gone now too.

I've only been to comiket as an exhibitor so I didn't have to deal with the lines, but they looked absolutely brutal. It doesn't help that both Comikets are at times of year where the weather usually sucks too.

I agree about meeting the artists etc. as well, definitely the best part of comiket. Not just famous ones like Abe either, it's really cool just wandering around and finding random doujin artists with styles you like, and being an obvious gaijin who speaks even halfway decent Japanese (I'm far from fluent myself but can get by) can lead into some pretty fun stuff when you walk up to those booths.

>>10954614
still a market

>>10954628
>there really are a fuckton of people and it takes an hour to get in
Compared to line con? Last time I did AX when visiting family I was looking at ~2hrs min. Early bird tickets for non-resident card holders exist IIRC a few friends got it last winter
>hour to get there via packed train and the thing only runs until 4pm so you really have to plan your shit
The monorail runs until midnight so no, not sure where on earth you get 1600 from, there is also a metro station not too far that takes you to any JR line. Shops around to eat and drink at to kill time for the mass of people to disperse.
> rarely saw cosplayers in the main halls.
There is a huge cosplay area outside most go to probably due to crowds get inside. Every time I've been with some friends we've seen cosplayers meeting their favorite artists. Granted it's not as big as the USA, but US isn't the only country on the planet with conventions.

>>10954636
I'd say it's more western, especially US anime cons, have become their own creature. It's more of a party nerd fest for the weekend than exploring and enjoying the source material and possibly those who make it.

Well shit saving this thread because a comiket thread is what I was looking for.

As for OP I think the main reason people don't go to Comiket from CGL despite being cheaper than you might thing is because cons in the west as it pertains to cgl is about the parties and letting lose. The average american con goer would not know what to do on the most basic level at comiket or Japan in general because it doesn't correlate to their anime understanding of it.

>>10954645
This is a western take of it, if you were to live in Japan for any length of time the term convention and market are all but synonyms at this point. You could ask people what the difference between comiket and AX to most people here rich enough to travel to it and "well it's different because one is a market and one is a con" would never come up. Most people attend comiket for merch, a view guests singing, and possibly sneak peaks into anime. Which is what most people I knew back home attended cons for.

Anyways see ya all around hope the jaypee meetup is still in the location as precoof.

>>10953688
> it's not a free for all cosplay all day at the actual event kind of thing like we do in the west
You actually are, however it's stated this in english because they want to make sure people cosplaying do not use the crowded trains. You take up space, you could ruin your cosplay, you could harm your cosplay, etc. Most people doing the professional cosplay area poses often have hotels paid for on site to walk over to anyways.
>You aren't allowed to cosplay inside.
You are so long as it does not have props attached to you or things that would block foot traffic. Again, this is a not understanding Japan level issue.

A group from Yokosuka goes to it regularly sure some newbies fuck up the first time going but they learn after the first one and it's a non issue. Some were doing scanty and kneesocks this year but changed to panty and stocking after being told the body paint rubbing off on people could be an issue. It's stuff like that you need to worry about anon.

The amount of cosplayers from any sports anime I see on the doujinshi floors is far less than what it was back in the states but it's still there.

>>10954967
Comiket runs until 4pm.

hi esl

>>10956761
>6 hours of the event
>stop by hotel for 1hr to drop everything off, recharge phone, and shower
>go out for beers with /a/nons in akihabara
>grab leftovers at Melonbooks and Animate
>hit up mogra afterparty till 5AM
dunno senpai seems nice to me