useless piece of junk that will never cook the bottom of your pizza no matter what you try(anyone who mentions the ice cube method or any other zoomie tiktok influencer bullshit will be promptly stoned to death preferably with the pizza stone )

>>21395241 (OP)
A steel stone is probably better.

>>21395241 (OP)
>stoned to death

>>21395241 (OP)
That pizza will look sad, no matter how it's cooked, I think
I haven't used a pizza stone in years, but I don't remember having any issues with it

>>21395241 (OP)
Sounds like a skill issue to me, OP.

>>21395248
thats your reply under every thread we all know you are a cooklet by now

>>21395241 (OP)
Are you preheating your oven with the stone in at the highest temp for a good 40 minutes? You're probably not using it correctly.

>>21395241 (OP)
Get a steel

Preheat for 30-90 minutes depending on the steel thickness.

I always preheat at 550F for at least 45 minutes.

>>21395337

>>21395241 (OP)
I cook my pizza on a sheet pan and keep the stone on the rack above it. The only things I cook on the stone itself are baked potatoes.

>>21395241 (OP)
>cook the crust only
>flip it
>cook the other side as well
wa la, you now have a pre-cooked crust.
the alternative is to use what the pizza chains use which is a wire tay with a lot of small holes in it, so the bottom can cook as well.

>>21395327
yes and not just that i made 5 pizzas so even if during the first one it was preheated for 25 minutes the last one was made like an hour later the result was the same and i tired less and less sauce and toppings for each pizza

>>21395337
why not just use an upside tray then? i have 30.... i bought a pizza stone because online hipsters were claiming it gives a better taste and crust and all frozen pizzas right "stone baked" with big letters on thep ackaging

>>21395427
i have around 50 of those why did i buy the """"essential""""" pizza stone then ?

>>21395357
um why dont they market it as a potato stone then?

>>21395440
A tray doesn't have the thermal mass to properly crisp up the crust.

You don't just want hot metal, you want a large MASS of hot metal.

If you just use a thin metal sheet the moment you put your dough on it it'll start losing heat quickly, with a thick steel you have enough thermal mass to overcome the dough from leeching out all your stored up thermal energy and you get a nice crisp under crust.

>>21395337
This. I'm not sure how pizza stones became the standard but frankly it's cargo culting at this point.

>>21395241 (OP)
You have to let it sit in the hot oven long enough to absorb the necessary heat so that it may properly function. It's a literal skill issue.

>>21395475
I DID I DID I DID THE HOUSE STILL SMELLS OF STUFFY SMOKY OVEN

>>21395338
not bad at all

I just use a baking tray that came with the oven and it's all good bro

>>21395803
Hey, I was going to say this. Works well enough. The only problem I have, is transferring the pizza onto the pan. I need one of those pizza shovel thingies.

>>21395805
Peel

>>21395808
Oh yeah, "peel"

>>21395241 (OP)
>flip baking sheet upside-down
>works just as well with fuckall preheating
pizza stones are a meme

>>21395337
the fuck, I can cook my pizza in 10min with minor preheating at 200C and it has never been undercooked
one minute more and the cheese start to make a crust if you prefer that

>>21395473
I remember seeing some retards here shilling useless products and pizza stones were some of them
niggers don't know that you don't need restaurant items to make good food so they keep falling for the jewish trick of buying useless shit instead of getting better cooks themselves

>>21395805
i made a one myself by bashing a pizza pan with a hammer

Bigtime skill issue.

>>21395917
I don't even need to see your pizza to know it's shit.

>>21395241 (OP)
Its not the stone you moron its the oven
500 F isnt hot enough, if you want to make good pizza at home you need a pizza oven and you need to start baking pies at 700 or higher

>>21395947
Most home ovens go to 550F and it's plenty hot enough for decent pizza if you know what you're doing which OP clearly does not.

>>21395923
That's shit compared to >>21395338

>>21395957
If you say so samefag. But my top objectively mogs his.

>>21395919
That's a good improvisation. Unfortunately, I don't have a spare pan I can shape. And nothing else I own is flat or large enough to work in such a capacity. So I guess I'll just have to buy one.

>>21395962
Yeah, that literally just proves the stone is dogshit if your top is almost burnt but the bottom is STILL that light.

>>21395996
The bottom is not that light though. You just don't know shit about pizza.

>>21395805
>>21395965
Lol I work at a factory and one of my coworkers welded one up out of 7 ga steel, you could dig a trench with the thing.

>>21395999
Sorry bruh, that isn't anywhere near dark enough for me

>>21395999
it looks light to me too. Maybe it's your lighting. Your under shot looks lit differently than your top shot. But as far as I can tell, the undershot looks just a little too light.

>>21395241 (OP)
I use a cheap pizza pan and once the top is done I put the pan on the hot stove for like a minute. Fast and good results every time.

>>21395954
>>21395947
i know what im doing its the pizza stone thats useless end of story

>>21395923
thats exactly how it came out thats uncooked and way too thin and soggy you should be embarrassed to ecen post this here ive seen phyllo dough thicker than your pizza

>>21395965
they cost like 80 bucks because they are low demand products just buy a pan for 3 bucks

>>21395947
Pizzas are not pies. They're a bready dish, technically an open faced sandwich.

getting great results with a stone in a home oven is tough, there's no easy trick. commercial pizza ovens are either traditional 900+ degree Neapolitan or you have top and bottom being cooked simultaneously in deck ovens. any technique you use in low powered single element oven is going to have drawbacks.

>>21396991
limiting yourself to good enough is dumb when you're pursuing hobbyist food. you don't make pizza as a smart practical meal choice.

>>21397054
So should i also build a fire stove inside my house

>>21397068
grok post

>>21395917
My guy, the primary concern with getting a properly done pizza is a good crust on the bottom.

I don't give a fuck what your cheese looks like if your bottom is undercooked.

>>21397525
Use a steel oven plate on the lowest oven grill and don't make a 4inch thick dough. No need to get some shitty gimmick rock for that. A good pizza dough will puff up because of the yeast and be soft and tender as it absorb the sauce above it. The crusty part of the bottom is only at the surface unless you are telling me that you like your pizza welldone and dry.

>>21395439
Dude the dough actively pulls a decent amount of heat out of the stone. If you just rapid fired a bunch of pizzas on a small stone like that, no shit you had problems with the pizzas not cooking great.

>>21395241 (OP)
you preheat the stone along with the oven you sperg

>>21398232
I own and use a steel, I'm just saying that talking up how good your cheese on top has nothing to do with how well done your bottom is, and it sure as fuck isn't going to be particularly crispy if you're using only 200C.

I use 288C and if I only preheat for a "minor preheat" my crust isn't going to be done enough for me. It needs a solid 30-45 minutes to preheat properly.

It's even more important if you're cooking 2 or 3 pizzas back to back.

>>21398561
retarded american finally chimes in

Steel with holes mogs the stone every time

>>21395241 (OP)
Doesn’t matter what you do.
A domestic oven gets nowhere hot enough to cook pizza properly.

I used to be all about pizza stone but now I'm pan pizza gang.
Just cook the pizza on the stove top until the bottom of the crust is practically done and then pop it in to the oven to get the toppings melted/cooked.
I have a 12" pan bought special and put aside for pizzas. It doesn't get used for anything else and does not get washed, only wiped with a paper towel.