Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:12:47 AM No.21427606
Wouldn't being on Keto make you have a heart attack?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:15:20 AM No.21427608
>He fell for the “fat is bad for your heart” meme
The heart is a pump. Pumps need to be greased.
The heart is a pump. Pumps need to be greased.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:19:03 AM No.21427619
>>21427606 (OP)
diets are for gay people and fat people.
diets are for gay people and fat people.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:28:02 AM No.21427632
saturated fats clog your arteries, so you definitely could have a heart attack on keto if you do "dirty keto" by eating nothing but fried eggs, bacon and hamburger with cheese on top.
I did a mostly plant-based keto diet of avocados and almonds and lost over 100 lbs on unsaturated fat. (i ate lean turkey as my protein source, but did not use meat as a source of fat)
I did a mostly plant-based keto diet of avocados and almonds and lost over 100 lbs on unsaturated fat. (i ate lean turkey as my protein source, but did not use meat as a source of fat)
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:35:50 AM No.21427643
>>21427608
lmao
lmao
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:56:31 AM No.21427675
>>21427659
They literally induce atherosclerosis in lab animals by force feeding them cholesterol and saturated fat. The connection between saturated fat and CVD is probably the most evidence-based fact in nutrition.
They literally induce atherosclerosis in lab animals by force feeding them cholesterol and saturated fat. The connection between saturated fat and CVD is probably the most evidence-based fact in nutrition.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:57:55 AM No.21427677
>>21427606 (OP)
depends on the person desu
depends on the person desu
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:44:09 AM No.21427766
>>21427632
>saturated fats clog your arteries
This was a meme forced by the sugar industry in the 70’s. There’s nothing wrong with saturated fats, it’s refined sugar.
https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
>saturated fats clog your arteries
This was a meme forced by the sugar industry in the 70’s. There’s nothing wrong with saturated fats, it’s refined sugar.
https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:51:39 AM No.21427785
>>21427766
I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that anyone in the United States government would ever lie to me, an American citizen, about something so critically important to survival as food.
I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that anyone in the United States government would ever lie to me, an American citizen, about something so critically important to survival as food.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:21:48 AM No.21427833
The best evidence against keto being natural or the optimum human diet is just how fragile and fussy it is. Do people really think that humans would've survived in the paleolithic era if they went through keto flu for a month? It completely tanks your energy levels and cardio ability, while also sapping your ability to gain muscle mass. And then you can fall out of keto by just eating slightly too many carbs, then you have to restart. Ancient humans didn't have fucking MyFitnessPal, they weren't counting carbs. The idea that eating fresh berries can throw you out of ketosis is so hilarious, it should be self-evident that the diet isn't meant to be long-term.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:04:44 AM No.21427893
>>21427766
It's not sugar, it's greed and sloth. People are fatter now because higher calorie food is more plentiful, more apetizing, and cheaper.
When I was a kid I ate candy all the time, soda, cookies, cake, everything. I was skinny and I was always playing outside.
Now as an adult I work out several times per week and don't eat any sugar and I'm getting chubby, but I also over eat - mostly bread and fat.
It's not sugar, it's greed and sloth. People are fatter now because higher calorie food is more plentiful, more apetizing, and cheaper.
When I was a kid I ate candy all the time, soda, cookies, cake, everything. I was skinny and I was always playing outside.
Now as an adult I work out several times per week and don't eat any sugar and I'm getting chubby, but I also over eat - mostly bread and fat.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:06:29 AM No.21427895
>>21427608
Legit?
Legit?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:10:44 AM No.21427902
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:30:40 AM No.21427929
>>21427833
Yeah it doesn't make sense to me either.
Given how easy it is to switch ketosis to glucolysis and how much harder it is to switch the other direction seems to me like an evolutionary strategy for dealing with intermittent times of minimal food with the occasional large meal. Ketosis gets you through the days without meaningful food and you body switches on a dime when you encounter high value foods. K to G switching allows you to make the most of extra calories by creating rapid energy and encouraging storage, and when that glucose runs out the body reluctantly pivots back to ketosis.
These would be the conditions of most humans before food preservation and large scale cultivation tech, hunter gathers, and most other large mamals in the wild.
It also doesn't make sense to me that our bodies would bother to retain 2 different metabolic modes it can easily switch between unless they are both nessesary.
Yeah it doesn't make sense to me either.
Given how easy it is to switch ketosis to glucolysis and how much harder it is to switch the other direction seems to me like an evolutionary strategy for dealing with intermittent times of minimal food with the occasional large meal. Ketosis gets you through the days without meaningful food and you body switches on a dime when you encounter high value foods. K to G switching allows you to make the most of extra calories by creating rapid energy and encouraging storage, and when that glucose runs out the body reluctantly pivots back to ketosis.
These would be the conditions of most humans before food preservation and large scale cultivation tech, hunter gathers, and most other large mamals in the wild.
It also doesn't make sense to me that our bodies would bother to retain 2 different metabolic modes it can easily switch between unless they are both nessesary.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:12:02 AM No.21428085
>>21427833
You generally don't find any groups of people who are naturally in ketosis either, even hunter-gatherers. They love honey. The Inuit seem like they'd be most likely to naturally be in ketosis but it doesn't look like they are for whatever reason. Fresh raw meat might have enough glycogen to kick you out of ketosis. You really have to go out of your way to be in ketosis when not fasting.
It seems like it's good for faster weight loss but it comes with downsides like you said. Everyone I know who did keto for weight loss slowly added carbs back in once they reached their target weight, they just stopped consuming so much junk food and made better choices for carbs to not gain all the weight back.
You generally don't find any groups of people who are naturally in ketosis either, even hunter-gatherers. They love honey. The Inuit seem like they'd be most likely to naturally be in ketosis but it doesn't look like they are for whatever reason. Fresh raw meat might have enough glycogen to kick you out of ketosis. You really have to go out of your way to be in ketosis when not fasting.
It seems like it's good for faster weight loss but it comes with downsides like you said. Everyone I know who did keto for weight loss slowly added carbs back in once they reached their target weight, they just stopped consuming so much junk food and made better choices for carbs to not gain all the weight back.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:38:14 AM No.21428122
>>21427608
stupid analogy but a good one
stupid analogy but a good one
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:32:17 AM No.21428272
Not really. I unfucked my heart (heart palpitations and arrhythmia) with very low carb in 1 year.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:07:59 AM No.21428310
>>21427606 (OP)
Keto is literally just a bio-safety net that allows humans to survive through harsh conditions where plant matter and other wild sources of carbohydrate are scarce, it's not some permanent health solution.
Gluconeogenesis is metabolically intensive, your liver has to work hard to break down the triglycerides and proteins in your body and it's why you feel shitty during starvation and when you start extreme diets like this one.
Keto is healthy only in the sense it basically kept us alive, Hunter gatherers were low carb.
tl;dr ketolards are retarded.
Keto is literally just a bio-safety net that allows humans to survive through harsh conditions where plant matter and other wild sources of carbohydrate are scarce, it's not some permanent health solution.
Gluconeogenesis is metabolically intensive, your liver has to work hard to break down the triglycerides and proteins in your body and it's why you feel shitty during starvation and when you start extreme diets like this one.
Keto is healthy only in the sense it basically kept us alive, Hunter gatherers were low carb.
tl;dr ketolards are retarded.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:14:28 AM No.21428323
>>21428310
>Hunter gatherers were low carb.
sometimes they were, other times they were feasting on a ton of honey all day. a lot of hunter-gatherers say honey is their favorite food.
>Hunter gatherers were low carb.
sometimes they were, other times they were feasting on a ton of honey all day. a lot of hunter-gatherers say honey is their favorite food.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:50:44 AM No.21428365
>>21427833
>Keto's goal is to lose weight
>The body's goal is to gain weight
>>How come people who don't live in first world countries with endless supplies of food maintain a diet that makes it hard to lose weight???
>Keto's goal is to lose weight
>The body's goal is to gain weight
>>How come people who don't live in first world countries with endless supplies of food maintain a diet that makes it hard to lose weight???
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:06:22 AM No.21428383
You don't need to do actual keto and eat sticks of butter to lose weight. Just lowering your carbs by 90% does most of it. The key to exercise-free weight loss is just cutting back on all the refined and processed carbs found in pasta and pizza dough and little debbie and embracing the eggs, fatty meats and green vegetables.
It's quite delicious really but giving up that other stuff is just absolutely off the table for a lot of people.
And like others are saying, you can carb up if you're going to do cardio or something. There's just no point in eating a carb-heavy diet when you sit inside all day for the most part.
There aren't many other diets where you can stay in and lose weight. But if you're a lazy, stay in kind of person you're less likely to do the shopping and cooking required to really love low-carb eating and succeed at it. It's really not for everyone.
It's quite delicious really but giving up that other stuff is just absolutely off the table for a lot of people.
And like others are saying, you can carb up if you're going to do cardio or something. There's just no point in eating a carb-heavy diet when you sit inside all day for the most part.
There aren't many other diets where you can stay in and lose weight. But if you're a lazy, stay in kind of person you're less likely to do the shopping and cooking required to really love low-carb eating and succeed at it. It's really not for everyone.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:13:46 PM No.21428473
Fat people should just stop being fat
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:23:32 PM No.21428481
>>21428365
The point is ketosis is your body's back up system to keep you alive during times of famine or starvation. Modern ketolards are wrong when they say keto is a long term solution, it puts a ton of stress on your body and there's no examples of tribal peoples actually maintaining ketosis for extended periods. Eskimos actually have a genetic mutation which helps them avoid ketosis on a meat heavy diet. Many parts of Africa have lots of fruits and wild root vegetables, the idea that Paleo humans were zero carb doesn't make sense.
The point is ketosis is your body's back up system to keep you alive during times of famine or starvation. Modern ketolards are wrong when they say keto is a long term solution, it puts a ton of stress on your body and there's no examples of tribal peoples actually maintaining ketosis for extended periods. Eskimos actually have a genetic mutation which helps them avoid ketosis on a meat heavy diet. Many parts of Africa have lots of fruits and wild root vegetables, the idea that Paleo humans were zero carb doesn't make sense.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:30:47 PM No.21428486
>>21427606 (OP)
yessir
yessir
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:35:06 PM No.21428490
>try keto bread
>tastes like eating a raw egg
Yeah nice “diet” bro
>tastes like eating a raw egg
Yeah nice “diet” bro
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:57:28 PM No.21428512
>>21428490
dude, you're the one eating raw eggs
dude, you're the one eating raw eggs
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:00:43 PM No.21428515
personally, some one fat shouldn't talk about health. the skinny crack head is healthier than them
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:06:51 PM No.21428816
>hobby
sounds about right, most ketards don't treat it as a diet but as a community to circlejerk in
sounds about right, most ketards don't treat it as a diet but as a community to circlejerk in
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:49:08 PM No.21428886
>>21427606 (OP)
>Wouldn't being on Keto make you have a heart attack?
Little known fact. Dr. Atkins died from Atherosclerosis. His diet was always hard to follow, and required strict carb counting and testing with sticks to ensure you were burning fat and not sugar, ie in the state of ketosis. It is also damn rough on the kidneys and there are hospitalizations by really otherwise healthy people. Modified low carb like South Beach also works, is slightly easier, but ehh, not any better than other choices, other than both diets tend to make a user feel full and not deprived. Eating a lot of bacon takes a while to digest.
Dr. Cornish had ONE study that showed that an extremely strict reduced fat diet that was sooooo reduced in fat, totally vegan too, showed to reduce the plaque from inside the arteries, so then that diet became the de facto prescription for people who had stents and blockages and history of heart attacks. It does work, but I think modern drugs have replaced the need for it, plus it's difficult to maintain.
Paleo is just fallacy and dreamy imaginations. Elimination of whole food groups does not pan out from archaelogical evidence. We have the stomach contents of Otzi, and it was full of grains and vegetables, not just meat, and many other examples, from whole kitchens in pompeii, to viking remains to ancient egyptians...evidence refutes it all. Even eskimos eat berries. I think Paleo people tend to have some nice ideas, like maybe we should have more varied sources of meat, such as game, but the very same people aren't eating 15 types of seafood or other variety either. My dog likes bison, but it's even expensive at Costco.
>Wouldn't being on Keto make you have a heart attack?
Little known fact. Dr. Atkins died from Atherosclerosis. His diet was always hard to follow, and required strict carb counting and testing with sticks to ensure you were burning fat and not sugar, ie in the state of ketosis. It is also damn rough on the kidneys and there are hospitalizations by really otherwise healthy people. Modified low carb like South Beach also works, is slightly easier, but ehh, not any better than other choices, other than both diets tend to make a user feel full and not deprived. Eating a lot of bacon takes a while to digest.
Dr. Cornish had ONE study that showed that an extremely strict reduced fat diet that was sooooo reduced in fat, totally vegan too, showed to reduce the plaque from inside the arteries, so then that diet became the de facto prescription for people who had stents and blockages and history of heart attacks. It does work, but I think modern drugs have replaced the need for it, plus it's difficult to maintain.
Paleo is just fallacy and dreamy imaginations. Elimination of whole food groups does not pan out from archaelogical evidence. We have the stomach contents of Otzi, and it was full of grains and vegetables, not just meat, and many other examples, from whole kitchens in pompeii, to viking remains to ancient egyptians...evidence refutes it all. Even eskimos eat berries. I think Paleo people tend to have some nice ideas, like maybe we should have more varied sources of meat, such as game, but the very same people aren't eating 15 types of seafood or other variety either. My dog likes bison, but it's even expensive at Costco.