The "concept" menu - /ck/ (#21449810) [Archived: 879 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:21:52 AM No.21449810
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Why don't more restaurants incorporate this?

The concept in its essence is not that controversial. The idea of choose a sauce + a protein + a side/carb is common enough. Lots of Chinese restaurants will have that model where you choose, say, sweet and sour then decide if you want prawn, chicken, tofu, etc. then choose to have it with steamed rice, fried rice, noodles.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:36:16 AM No.21450182
>>21449810 (OP)
To me it makes dishes seem less special, sort of like how premade game characters seem to be more “real” than the ones you make yourself by adjusting sliders
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:43:52 AM No.21450195
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>>21449810 (OP)
>>21450182
This shit is too complicated to ever be good. There's too many chances for bad combinations.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:47:02 AM No.21450200
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>>21450195
Just to be complete this is the other half. It was way more complicated than a Chinese place or even a fast casual place which was created in the same area around the same time as Sebastian's.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:32:01 AM No.21450265
>>21450200
This isn't even complicated, it's just premade slop.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:21:08 AM No.21450375
>>21449810 (OP)
I won that one.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 1:08:54 PM No.21450536
>>21450195
>>21450200
what's complicated about this? the issue is more the food quality
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:25:43 PM No.21450826
>>21450200
I like this menu. Wtf was Ramsay's problem? Possibly viewed him as a competitor and wanted to wipe it out? I don't even remember Ramsay trying any of the combinations.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:34:16 PM No.21450847
>>21449810 (OP)
I prefer restaurants that specialize because it means the cooks can focus on perfecting what they're serving.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:11:55 PM No.21450999
>>21450265
Lessons for someone who makes software tools for engineers: if you give people too much power (choice), they will misuse it and blame your for their own mistake.

From >>21450195, people will be making baked potato shrimp salads and then complaining that the food was weird. Also in terms of complexity, these combinations vary in how they should be prepared... some would be ideally cooked with the base, some should be treated like a hot topping, and some are more of a cold side/garnish. Nothing here would be nearly as well done as if it was planned out as specific dishes.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:58:28 PM No.21451073
>>21450200
I swear, nothing boils my blood like people calling champignons “portabella.” It’s always the same type—some smug, apron-wearing kitchen amateur who watched one episode of MasterChef and now thinks they’ve become the mushroom whisperer. You hand them a basic Agaricus bisporus—the most common cultivated mushroom on Earth—and they look you dead in the eye and say, “Oooh, nice portabellas.”
No. I don’t have portabellas. I have champignons. White ones. Brown ones. Baby bellas if you're drunk on marketing buzzwords. That sad grilled cap you're worshipping isn’t some rare forest jewel—it’s a grown-ass button mushroom. It didn’t descend from the heavens. It wasn’t kissed by a Tuscan breeze. It’s the same damn species, just with a tan and a mortgage.
There is no “portabella tree.” They’re not born in artisanal moss beds. It’s branding. A scam. A culinary catfish to make you feel fancy for overcooking fungus at your 4th of July BBQ. Meanwhile, I’m out in the forest soaked in rain, boots in mud, cutting birch brackets and spotting chanterelles while you’re out here grilling glorified pizza toppings.
I’ve cloned pink oysters in petri dishes, fruited shiitake on oak logs, and can ID a death cap faster than you can say “umami.” But somehow, Chad from accounting thinks he’s mushroom royalty because he pan-seared a leathery brown dome and slapped it on ciabatta.
These people strut like they’re the bastard child of Marco Pierre White and a can of mushroom soup. Stop it. You’re not enlightened. You’re embarrassing. Just call it what it is—a champignon in its final form—and leave the real fungi to the people who actually know what the hell they’re doing.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:02:48 PM No.21451082
>>21451073
It makes my blood boil when people call mushrooms champignons and don’t actually know what a ‘Portobello’ is.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:32:04 PM No.21451162
>>21451082
here we fucking go, you dont know SHIT about mushrooms you dumb faggot.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:35:22 PM No.21451171
>>21450999
Lessons from an engineer: The people who make software tools for engineers are retarded and shouldn't be listened to
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:44:49 PM No.21451193
>>21451171
I mean I’m living pretty comfortable doing this bullshit, so at least the people with money are listening to me.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:48:31 PM No.21451206
>>21451193
That means very little. People with money will often misuse it and blame you for their own mistake.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:48:49 PM No.21451208
>>21451162
Not him but are you going to try and imply that common button mushrooms are a different species from the ones they let grow large and sell as portobello?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:51:27 PM No.21451213
>>21451208
how is your reading comprehension buddy? im saying i hate the word portobello/portabella. its a marketing scheme from the 80s to try and sell mature champignons. even button mushrooms is a better word, portabella/portobello is faggy and pretentious
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:54:37 PM No.21451220
>>21450200
This menu looks like a mess. Say I order a "Meat Man Dinner", what exactly am I getting into? Bacon, cheese and pepperoni slices dumped onto a plate with fries and a steak like I'm on a dinner date with a depressed bachelor? Asian places can do the whole "choose your protein" thing because they're using a well-known base sauce that's suitable for minor adjustments because that sauce will be the main flavour and it's really what you're buying, if that makes sense. Here, I'm paying for a "gourmet dinner", a "gourmet sandwich" or a "gourmet salad" and I don't have a clue what any of these are while the "gourmet flavors" are vague and uninspiring. You can do this sort of thing with European dishes but I don't think most of our cuisines are well suited to it.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:56:25 PM No.21451223
>>21451213
>pretentious
Incredible that the most pretentious cunt in this thread is you. Hypocrisy is rife
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:57:13 PM No.21451225
>>21451223
>NO FUN ALLOWED!
rope yourself laddy
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:57:25 PM No.21451227
>>21451213
Lol I didn't realize you were just triggered by the actual word. That's even funnier. Enjoy your meltdown.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:58:32 PM No.21451230
>>21451227
big fan of concept menus i take it?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:03:24 PM No.21451246
>>21451225
Doesn't even make sense. You're the shemale who's shitting their panties about the naming of mushrooms in the most prissy of ways
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:04:32 PM No.21451251
>>21451230
No that place looks retarded and the food sounds awful, but you getting your panties in a twist because of the word portabella entertains me.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:06:33 PM No.21451255
>>21451246
>>21451251
you talk like a fag and your shits all retarded
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:06:34 PM No.21451256
>>21451213
>reading comprehension
>is made that we have specific words to describe things instead of using more generic terms
lmao, great meltdown anon, I’m loving this
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:09:10 PM No.21451263
>>21451256
americans never cease to amaze me. you and the brits are the only ones in the world calling them portobellos, it sounds incredibly gay. like williamsburg gay.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:11:14 PM No.21451267
>>21451255
Boring. Taking some already overused line from some film. Tell your mother's boyfriend and get a high five whilst vaping some pineapple passion like the noodle-armed gaylord you are
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:11:16 PM No.21451268
>>21451263
And where are you from, Ranjeet?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:11:39 PM No.21451270
>>21451263
>AHHHH OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE DIFFERENT WORDS FOR THINGS I'M GOING INSAAAAANE
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:12:25 PM No.21451273
>>21451270
i literally am if you cant tell
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:15:12 PM No.21451280
>>21451268
denmark anon. not a big fan of the indians desu
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:23:20 PM No.21451291
>>21451263
.... it's an American menu and you're getting this upset that they used the term Americans use for those mushrooms? And you're calling others retarded?
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:27:15 PM No.21451298
>>21451206
I mean if they didn’t like it, they’d stop paying me. I have no problem figuring out what they’re trying to do, calling them morons, and providing them a better (read: correct) way to do things.

It also helps that the other tools out there are written by engineers, and have retarded problems like ‘you can’t run this in a location where a Python file exists’. I’m not even a true software engineer, but people think I am because of how bad everything currently is.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:38:57 PM No.21451317
>>21450195
For me? It’s the Meat Man