We're all going to die

>The data showed that people who ate as little as one hot dog a day
Do people really eat one hot dog a day? Is this really considered a ‘small amount’?

>>21452801
It says the equivalent of one medium-sized hot dog. So it could be a hot dog or a couple strips of bacon or slices of deli meat.

>Habitual consumption of even small amounts of processed meat, sugary drinks, and trans fatty acids is linked to increased risk of developing type 2 diabetes, ischemic heart disease and colorectal cancer
This is basically just saying "highly processed food is bad for you" which is nothing new. Making it about processed meat and hot dogs is probably because it was recently July 4th and people ate a lot of hot dogs. The study wasn't even entirely focused on processed meat but also sugary drinks and artificial trans fats.

>>21452812
So it’s journos taking a perfectly normal study and twisting it in the most pants-on-head retarded way possible, got it.

>>21452780 (OP)
Disproven by the largest, most expensive nutrition RCT that has ever and likely will ever be conducted. Processed meat fearmongering is a nothingburger propagated by morons, ignorant, and those seeking career advancement

>>21452780 (OP)
>>21452812
"Tell me, what did you learn from the Tillamook burn, or the Fourth of July?"

I started a diet of mostly unprocessed whole foods like a year ago and honestly this is the worst I've ever felt in my entire life

>>21452812
Don't they basically publish the same article every couple months after people probably overate something. "Happy New Year, did you know alcohol is bad for you"... "Enjoying the Football game, 12 common tailgate foods that can kill you"... "It's Easter what can you eat to stay healthy"... "Happy 4th of July, Sausages are processed and Potato Salad is full of bacteria"... "Back to school scares? What are you really packing for your kid"... "Common Halloween Candies ranked by healthiness, what the good moms are giving out".... "Thanksgiving foods that can cause cancer".... "Merry Christmas... are you packing on the pounds"

>>21452819
lol, bullshit. It wasn't junk food making you healthy.

>>21452827
Yeah. Same as it ever was.

>>21452819
if this is true then what do you eat? sometimes people will do this but actually eat too many non-starchy vegetables so they're not getting enough carbs or they're not eating enough fat. or they cut out things like milk and nuts even though they're minimally processed because they think it's too high in calories.

>>21452780 (OP)
Don't worry, they only do it slowly. Where do you think "Operation Warp Speed" got its name?

>>21452780 (OP)
>Research shows people die
Shocking. I've stopped listening to this bullshit ever since they said red meat causes cancer or some shit. They even said toast causes cancer ffs. Ignore these scare-mongering retards and just enjoy your food moderately.

>>21452837
>not getting enough carbs

kek

>>21452864
I'm sure most of the people who make a really big deal about how misleading these clickbait food articles are also trust batshit insane medical advice off of twitter when they're "doing their own research".
Red wine is bad, next year red wine is good. Eggs are bad, next year eggs good again.
This is nothing new. It's not to be taken seriously. They're not 'scare-mongering'. No one gets any actual level of dread over their diet. Save your outrage for actually dangerous disinformation. Those stupid food studies are harmless and silly.

>>21452866
?

>>21452815
based

>>21452818
That song is incestual
dvd4k

>>21452872
or maybe, just maybe, food science is an extremely tough thing to go about because it's largely observational guesswork. we can't open up humans and attach all kinds of instruments to them for months on end. as new processes come about and technology improves, so does the science.

but the incels don't want to hear that and want the world to be static and nothing to ever change.

>>21452999
>it's largely observational guesswork
Which is why nobody with a brain pays attention to it

>>21452780 (OP)
isn't this obvious. how can you say that that any amount is considered safe when processed meat is not a thing. processed meat could contain litteraly anything

>>21452998
You're grounded, no porn for a month.

>>21452780 (OP)
oh look another study to FUCKING IGNORE.

>>21452999
>but the incels don't want to hear that and want the world to be static and nothing to ever change.
blathering about incels is great when you have plenty of scientists and doctors acting like it's solved and they have all the answers too and there's nothing left to discuss

>>21452780 (OP)
Doom comes in many different forms. Some more delicious than others.

>>21452780 (OP)
I am so sick of "studies" they are all bullshit.

>>21453021
*actually changes anons life*
thx bro

>>21452780 (OP)
Imagine still giving the smallest shit about nutritional studies.

>>21453026
>acting like it's solved and they have all the answers too and there's nothing left to discuss
but no one is acting like that. that's a complete fabrication in your head you've formulated from reading cherrypicked sources on /pol/

>>21453181
>/pol/!
>incels!
you are insufferable

>>21452837
oats, buckwheat, milk, eggs, kefir, yogurt, tomatoes, onions, bananas, and apples is probably 90% of my diet. every now and then I eat baked potatoes, lean meat or fish, some broccoli, ezekiel bread with peanut butter. I guess it's more like minimally processed. I started the diet as a low fat, low salt died for stomach issues and have continued it because it lowered my blood pressure enormously. It's kind of miserable and joyless though. I've been cutting down on the kefir because it gives me yeast burps for hours, which is sad because it's one of the only things I enjoy.

>>21453263
Try eating more meat and potatoes.

>>21453194
>incel mad he got called out

>>21452780 (OP)
Everyone dies no matter what they do

Retarded, eating literally anything is "dangerous" to the human body. Who gives a shit?

>>21453327
>Everyone dies no matter what they do
This is why the only real solution to this problem is to accept Jesus into your heart so that when you die from gluttony and whatever else you did, you will go to Heaven. I strongly recommend regularly donating money to a church (not to charity), maybe even a Roman Catholic church, since you can go to confession and bribe the priest into forgiving you and granting you the key through the pearly gates.

>>21452874
He's a ketard.

I started ordering pork belly from the asian website. it's much healthier than retarded bacon that's soaked in chemicals and smoked

>>21453263
everyone who has ever eaten those foods has died.

>>21453360
Did you know that pork belly is made of chemicals?

>>21453374
le ebin r*ddit fact check

>>21453263
>low fat, low salt
I feel better doing this sometimes too, but sometimes you just need more fat and salt as well. Plant foods typically have very little and you need some for good health.

Something like 2g of sodium is the recommended daily limit but there's some evidence that people who consume 4-6g might have better health outcomes.

For fat I noticed that even though I love milk and never have stomach problems with it, too much butter will upset my stomach. Too much fatty meat as well. Peanut butter is a good choice but I'd try maybe having some olives or olive oil, avocado, coconut, maybe even a little chocolate.

It looks like you might not be getting enough omega 3. Maybe not enough iron either especially if you're mixing dairy with food because that inhibits absorption.

>>21452780 (OP)
So is cooking meat processing it? How about chewing? Is chewing meat a type of processing?

>>21453519
>Is chewing meat a type of processing?
yeah but you're already swallowing meat whole so it's ok

>>21453521
Your Mom was an inspirational teacher.

>>21452827
Based noticer

>>21452780 (OP)
BREATHING OXYGEN CAUSES CANCER. I'm not kidding. Google 'ROS' if you think I'm joshing. So, stop breathing to prevent cancer.

>>21453523
>haha yeah I do suck dick but so does your mom
Very good comeback anon

>>21453181
So you attack the guy for quoting the previous poster's word incel, literally proved his point faggot. Quite obvious what breed you are mate, time to fire up the /ck/ ovens.

I guess that settles it. OPs post convinced me to only eat meal-worm flour and cockroach puree. I will move into the pod and own nothing to make them happy.

>>21452780 (OP)
did someone saw the article ? it increase your chance of getting cancer by 7% and 11% for diabetes, so if you have 1% chance of getting ass cancer, now is at 1,07%, so an extra of 0,07%, so eat that salami and sausage
>>21452827
is the same shit every year for everything anon, from food to holidays , consumerism, sports events, gossip, school start soon/end soon, summer vacation, winter vacation, black friday bullshit sales etc
i feel like i am in a loop or something

Quick lesson in absolute vs relative percentage changes.

The average rate of colorectal cancer is about 4% in the general population.
When some shitty outlet says "eating one hot dog a day increased cancer risk by 12%" they are not saying that the risk for people that eat hot dogs has jumped from 4% to 16%. They are saying it jumped from 4% to 4.4%.

Stay in school, kids.

>>21455391
statistically that still results in a lot more people getting cancer even if for the individual it doesn't matter as much.

anyone ever tried uncured hot dogs? they suck asshole

>>21452819
vegans be like

>>21452780 (OP)
thank god

>>21455401
4.4% is MORE than 4%, but is an additional 0.4% enough of a difference TO make a difference? You be the judge.

>>21455792
well to the individual that still means over 95% chance of not getting it. but on the scale of billions of people you're still talking millions of extra cases of cancer.

>>21452999
Nutrition science is actually based on chemistry and looking at cells and chemical interactions. So actual hard science. But you won't really see papers on this, it's usually in textbooks and crap, as it's old established science (think carbs, protein, sugars, etc). The new stuff is for protein models and mechanisms, and the news is too braindead to understand a lick of that stuff to turn it into fearmongering.

Dietary "science" are "observational studies" and are generally bunk science due to unrepresentative samples, small N, non-repeatability, lack of controls, and of course MASSIVE, MASSIVE corporate interference. Media loves this shit because it drives the OH NO YOU ARE EATING POISON headlines and PLS EAT MORE SUPERFOOD headlines. Which mysteriously have funding from BIG FOOD to make happen. And that is if you could ever deconvolve all the pollution effects from all the chem shit we dump into water/air from food effects. That little 1% cancer bump could be from pollutants, not food, but no one would know because that's a fuck ton of shit to control, and people don't track (and kinda can't track) pollutant intake. They at least track smoking/drinking, but that can be measured by subjects. Pollutants are much harder to track.

Hot dogs aren't killing you, it's just a tube of meat bits (proteins and fat, plus all the chem shit BIG FOOD injects in it). The complete lack of exercise and 1lb of HFCS consumption per day is really what is killing you and turning you into a lardass. But people don't want to hear that, and Big Sugar kicked Big Fat's ass in the diet game, so sugar is good for you while fat is bad for you (despite the reverse being true).

>>21452874
The idea that a carb deficiency is a thing or that it would be negative is laughable. Do you now understand?

We're all gonna die anyway who gives a fuck about these studies

>OP outside the hot dog stand on a sunny saturday afternoon

https://youtu.be/o5EVC3rgJ-o?si=jrrX63mi3Zr0ZBkn

>>21456038
This. I like that at least on /ck/ there are smart and wordy posts which don't get accused of being 'bots' or 'A.I.'
They've had the same "studies" being published since I can remember in the 80s. Most people just ignore it or read between the lines and look for something true in there. But now so many online are distrustful and insane with paranoia so there's a different reaction to all of this. It's all some big "conspiracy".
Just harmless clickbait, no different from supermarket checkout magazine covers from 30-40 years ago.

>>21456062
exactly.
Same goes for microplastics, mercury, seed oils, whatever. You won't live long enough to actually DIE from any of the "concerning" things in our food. Just eat what you want and don't get too fat.

>>21452780 (OP)
Yet another desperate push by Klaus Schwab and co. to get us all to eat ZE BUGS. Pathetic.

>>21452780 (OP)
No shit. Some die faster than others if you haven't noticed yet.

More people were killed by COVID-19 than processed meat, and people that ate processed meat DIED with COVID-19. Think about that for a second. Processed meat should be banned because people can eat it and then live long enough to be killed by something else, like the common cold. Proving that all meat that has been processed in any way, even if someone just chopped it up in a slaughterhouse, is bad for you.

>>21452780 (OP)
How did humans survive without refrigerators? We were even chugging down beer every day instead of drinking water in ancient times.

>>21453444
the problem with sodium is my BP was like 136/86 all the time and now it's like 115/75. the low sodium seems like it's the only thing stopping me from having high blood pressure and I'm 125 pounds so I can't lose weight.

I'll look into omega 3 food or supplements and maybe try slowly raising my sodium intake and seeing how I tolerate it. My doctor wanted me to start taking bp meds last year which scared me into going low sodium because I do not want to be on blood pressure meds.

>>21456124
>We were even chugging down beer every day instead of drinking water in ancient times.
this was really low in alcohol compared to what most beer is today. probably closer to a non-alcoholic beer than an average alcoholic beer.

>>21456050
I didn't say it was a "deficiency". Your muscles store and burn carbs for quick energy. Not getting enough carbs can make someone feel tired because of that. Unless you're completely sedentary and spend all your time just rambling online about how carbs are the devil I guess.

>>21452780 (OP)
Eventually, yes.

>>21456327
Okay.
High blood pressure is bad because...?

>>21452780 (OP)
If you did everything studies say you'd be some kind of freak and probably dead

>marinating meat in super finely ground salt and smoke is bad for you

no shit

>>21452999
You'll never be a woman. Sorry, but that isn't going to change, cry and cope about "incels", of which you very much are one, all you like.

>>21456327

>>21456758
I take 4,000 FU's natto (200mg) plus various other -kinase's. Serrapeptase 35mg) for scrounging errant proteins, too. NAC+ GLYCINE. I believe it's the natto which is responsible for my freaky cardio and bloodwork. Chit seems to work for me.>>21456758

>>21452780 (OP)
Technically it's not 'safe' to drive a car, either
Life is risky, get over it

>>21456582
it's not the smoke, it's the nitrites. Pink curing salt converts from nitrate to nitrite when you digest it, it carries a slight risk but it's not so bad that everyone should freak the fuck out or something. It's not asbestos.

Something to keep in mind about nitrates and the whole "uncured" organic meats you'll find at fancy grocery stores.
>uncured meats are still cured, just not in the processing plant
>they're cured by using celery powder and a type of bacteria that digests that powder into sodium nitrate
>the amount of nitrites developed by this process is actually greater than just using sodium nitrate

"Uncured" meat is literally a lie and actually has more of the unhealthy nitrate than their cured counterparts. It's bizarre but marketing is marketing and the FDA decided that this labeling was fine for some stupid reason.

>>21459346
>for some stupid reason
Because the goal is depopulation in preparation for the return of Saturn. >>21452840

>>21452780 (OP)

>research

>particle of bolonga just hovering around in the air lands in my mouth
>die instantly

>>21452780 (OP)
imagine wanting to eat processed meat in 2024+1
its GROSS

>>21456124
back then 40 year olds were considered seniors

>>21452816
Even the meat industry's paid research shows pro-cancer mechanisms of red and processed meat. It's something they research so that they can find ways to mitigate the effect and make it appear less harmful in studies that they can then use to lobby the USDA.

>>21459651
>muh mechanisms
dont care doesn't matter

>>21453263
you have to vary your diet. diets that are mostly limited to a few ingredients are super likely to give you nutrient deficiencies

>>21459595
But scientists get the money whether they do or don't agree. It's not like once a study is funded, they don't get paid if the results come out a certain way. Are you retarded?

>Ehrm, that think you like is actually bad for you??
Notice how you never see these analysts in the real world cause they'd get their nerd asses wedgied.

My own extensive research has shown that people who eat anything end up dying. How can we solve this?

>>21460966
>what is future funding
Are you temporally challenged lol

>>21453263
Bro you should be eating meat regularly.

>>21461312
I don't really like meat enough to buy it

>>21452780 (OP)
Suddenly, Grand Rabbi Meister Heeb flew in from Tel Aviv on his magic dreidl
>make up some new bullshit to weaken the goyim!
So his crafty sayanim got to work making a fake study about how eating processed meat totally gives you mega cancer. And they sent the findings to 2 places: AM radio for the cuckservatives and NPR for the loony liberals. And then it made it to the internet and all the good little goycattle gave a fluoride stare of ACKnowledgement before eating the Beyond burger and washing it down with a glass of yummy roach milk and, coincidentally, boosting all the chosen stock portfolios. But a special exception was given to US Marines, who would receive EXTRA ground pig asshole in their feed troughs for their important role in defending the Holy Land. "OORAH!" screamed Clive Tucker III of Alabama, not knowing that it was the Hebrew word for "awaken", "Thank you Grand Rabbi for this bounty of pig parts that I shall take into my unworthy self! Truly the minor Godliness of a mere Christian slug like me does not compare to your enlightened Jewish spirit! I would gladly use my 2-year old son as a shield to stop a bullet bound for your holy body!"

"You are most welcome, goy!" Meister Heeb said, before joining his fellow Jews to dance in the street and feast upon kosher hot dogs. The End.

>>21462642
So when Jews eat the same food substitutes that other Jews are supposedly promoting, is that part of the Protocol, too?

Then just dont buy processed meats

>>21462723
It's FAKE actually good product made to resemble the slop apportioned to filthy Xtian dogs. They are ALL in on it.

>>21462759
>They are ALL in on it
>even the ones with no connection to anyone or anything "important" and toil in the lower class like anyone else

>>21462770
They merely project the ILLUSION of toil with their Pharisee magery. Have you perhaps fluoridated your brain with the accursed TAP of the Deepwater Jew? That lends an aura of verisimilitude to their deceptions, twisting your mind to believe that you could have some sort of common ground with a foul and ancient race that only plots your downfall. Such misapprehensions should be dispelled should you regularly imbibe the pure waters of an ARYAN FJORD
>b-b-but that is sea water!
It is the salt of Miðgarðr that never loseth its flavour! Thus shall you learn to taste of its essential TRUTH in the world around you and notice its ABSENCE in the confabulations of the Shylock shyster.

>>21452780 (OP)
gay propaganda

>>21459346
>using celery powder
Yep, what some folks consider the new MSG. I figured that about "uncured;" another half truth in the world of food processing. The savory version of zero sugar or sugar free which just means sucralose, allulose, aspartame, stevia extract, or monkfruit extract.

>>21462792
...
Bait.

>>21452780 (OP)
Excellent! By my interpretation, I'll eat as much as I want (and not die any time soon), thanks!

>>21455792
Rest in peace. Gone, but not forgotten.

>>21462815
I mean, MSG is basically just salt. Unsure how it's related to MSG, since wrongfully people panicked about MSG in the first place. Sugar substitutes are strange, though, I don't really know how they impact the body.

>>21452780 (OP)
Who cares

>>21463933
me

>>21463930
Celery salt is being used an MSG substitute these days. Products that say "no msg" on their label usually contain celery salt instead.

>>21463941
ah, ok. I see what you mean now. I believe celery salt is different than celery powder, in that celery salt is a traditional spice used in shit like Old Bay and other seafood seasonings, whereas celery powder is literally ground up celery used in the curing process for "uncured meats". You can buy celery powder from woo woo crunchy organic stores and shit like that

>>21452780 (OP)
I'm gonna die real soon :(

>>21463937
Why

>>21452780 (OP)
Everyone's gonna die sometime. It's the one thing about living that's totally certain.
But is stretching out the time before then by being absolutely miserable a good idea? I don't think so!

(Also, not everyone has the same chance of cancer. The actual risk is stochastic and depends mostly on the activity level of your immune system, which is highly variable between people and also over time. But that's a truth that is beyond the mental grasp of most journalists.)

>>21464087
>is stretching out the time before then by being absolutely miserable a good idea?
If your joy in life is eating bacon and hot dogs, you ought to stop and think about things

>>21452780 (OP)
does this apply to American slop only or does like a nice Spanish ham also give you cancer