>>21457730 (OP)I've had really delicious black coffee before, and really good beer. Most coffee sucks though, because the biggest factors in how good coffee is the quality of the beans, and the freshness of the roast, most people don't roast their own. Everything else is details, and every improvement you make to the brewing process is diminishing returns at best and placebo at worst. I've absolutely had coffee that tasted like chocolate and fruit, that's not a meme.
As for beer, I'm not an expert on it at all, I barely ever drink, but I can tell you that the black isle oat stout I tried tasted WAY better than the cheap beer they had at the office christmas party - the former had a sort of "deep", smooth, almost spicy (like dessert spicy, not hot spicy) taste, while the other one was literally like piss and dishwater.