Yeah, I drink wine.

old thread is still up >>21438411

>>21459593 (OP)
it make me big shits

poo poo stinky doody caca feces nigger piss fart turds

>>21459593 (OP)
>drowns in a river

I remember Middle School.

Cisco was better

>>21459593 (OP)
This photo alone made me gag a
Little

>>21459593 (OP)
this and johny bootlegger are all a nigga needs

>>21459593 (OP)
Headache wine. Orange Jubilee is the one. If you want to get real crazy use it as the OJ in a malt liquor Brass Monkey. You know, since you don't care anyway.

>>21459593 (OP)
hell yeah

>>21459593 (OP)
>blue raspberry
So we're still pretending that the ethanol industry isn't trying to appeal to children? And no punitive measure is going to come from them doing this, just like with porn? Okay...

>>21460575
We’re all just waiting for it to begin.

>>21459686
SHARPEN YER BOOT
AND BLUDGEON YER EYE

>>21459686
This is the most stereotypical Irish shit I've seen in a long time. I like it

>>21460583
Waiting for what? A handful of states to tease a solution that'll just get the ethanol dealers to pull out of any state that implements it while decrying it as "authoritarian"?

>>21460575
I think people are very out of touch with how many adults like sweet shit. I worked at a liquor store and blacks and asians both fucking loved disgustingly sweet drinks. They oddly had VERY similar drinking habits for two groups who dislike each other.

Anyway, every underage kid I knew would get the same shit. Karkov with some oj, or rum

>>21460647
>adults like sweet shit
When they're buying it for their "friend" whose ID "expired" and that's why he can't buy it himself, sure...
>every underage kid I knew would get the same shit
And you knew they were underage and still sold it to them? I see why you described your occupation in the past tense...

>>21460575
In America most people never mature, so it's not that they are making this or their porn literally to appeal to children, it's that the key demographic most companies go for are adults who think and act like children. So they get their blue raspberry liquor, chug it while watching a movie about comic book characters and then masturbate to Japanese cartoons where it's okay that it looks like a five year old with bouncing tits because she's actually five thousand years old and a demon. Or... they watch a 40 something black dude fuck an 18 year old in a school uniform in the ass for an hour. Coin flip on which.

Side note, it's not that the companies care if actual kids are also drawn to that stuff, they just aren't the target audience because it's adults with the brains of children who buy shit.

>>21460666
That's a very convenient excuse, Satan. Your business ventures sure have an air-tight alibi...

>>21460668
I don't support anything America does. It's a crumbling dystopia of idiots. Just laying out the reality. They don't have to actually market to kids when people in their 30's and 40's will happliy drink shit vokda masked with sugar while they watch Captain America fight a purple alien.

>>21460673
>I don't support anything America does
It's a digits joke.
>It's a crumbling dystopia of idiots
I have eyes and ears, you don't need to remind me.
>people in their 30's and 40's will happliy drink shit vokda masked with sugar while they watch Captain America fight a purple alien
True enough. The 21st amendment was a mistake.

>>21460647
brownoid here, I can confirm I like tokaji aszu

>>21460666
>five year old with bouncing tits
is this the power of feeding your kids rbst and microplastics?

>>21460575
>pretending that the ethanol industry isn't trying to appeal to children?
it's appealing to 19 year old girls, anon.
you've clearly never been handsome.

>>21460755
>19 year old girls
Still not old enough to legally drink, but just old enough to exchange money or... "something else" so someone else can buy her a drink. Great...
>you've clearly never been handsome
And the 21st amendment was clearly never a good idea, or was at best a temporary solution to the criminal element of the ethanol racket. Thing about solutions, is that they're supposed to make problems go away...

>>21459593 (OP)
this hobo i met as a teenager called it blue juice

>>21460769
>this hobo i met as a teenager
And totally never gave money so he'd buy two bottles of "blue juice" and let him keep one, right?

>>21460767
You sound like a bit of a spaz who thinks if everyone listened to him the world would be a better place.
Alcohol is the arch enemy of people like you because after a few drinks people will stop placating you and tell you to shut the fuck up like the mini-Mussolini you are.

>>21460840
>Alcohol is the arch enemy of people like you because
I have the radical belief that a society of clear-minded people is preferable to one where inebriation is often synonymous with celebration, yes.

>>21460845
I'm sorry your drunk father beat you

>>21460852
I accept your concession.

>>21460852
>>21460853
No, someone like (You) wouldn't call my father a drunk. I would, but (You) probably wouldn't.

>>21459593 (OP)
A fine vintage. They say the blue and green varieties come from the same region, but opposite sides of a certain factory floor.

>>21460767
America is one of the only countries on earth where 19 year olds aren't allowed to drink. It's kinda funny how obsessed you are with this.

>>21460769
>>21460830

In Canada and in my 30's I had a hobo try to give me weed because he said he thought it was kinda crappy lol.

>>21460575
>just like with porn?

And you'll never guess who owns the company that makes MD 20/20

>>21460988
>America is one of the only countries on earth where 19 year olds aren't allowed to drink
And we're still too lenient, in my unpopular opinion.
>I had a hobo try to give me weed because he said he thought it was kinda crappy
I hope sharing joints comes with the same risks as sharing needles.

>>21461030
>And we're still too lenient, in my unpopular opinion.

Indeed, you seem very focused on trying to control what other people choose to do. It sounds frustrating and unfulfilling.

>hope sharing joints comes with the same risks as sharing needles.

It wasn't a joint it was a bag of herb, but I told him to just give it to someone else. I'm not big into it especially if it was too low quality for him. I just found it funny. He's a cool guy, must have some form of government assistance because he never begs but lives in a little shack near the train tracks and seems to spend most of his money feeding stray cats.

>>21461120
>you seem very focused on trying to control what other people choose to do
See >>21460845.
>it was a bag of herb
Point stands.

>>21461153
I see. I prefer a society where people are free to engage in various relaxing activities or substances and where adults are allowed to exercise free will in what they choose to partake.

>>21461164
>I prefer a society where people are free
Give you this: that worldview ended up "working out" far longer than it should've...
>relaxing activities or substances
Ask my close buddy Jordan Peterson all aboat those "relaxing" substances. They were really fun during that vacation he had to Russia...
I'm kidding, if you couldn't tell. I know those were prescribed to him as a sleep aid. He still ended up with withdrawals and it fucked him up so much it required what we in the West would call "radical" intervention. So even when we're trying to get it "right," we still end up getting it horribly wrong. Fancy that for a second...
>allowed to exercise free will in what they choose to partake
So if they "choose to partake" in huffing gasoline while leering outside a middle school during outdoor PE, that's fiiiiiiiiine...

>>21461164
Nta but does anyone really “want” to drink maddog?

>>21460662
No I knew they were underage cause I was and every party was just vodka and rum ya fuckin loser

>>21461321
I hope the "plug" got his just desserts, all the same, along with whatever clerk sold it to him.

>>21461347
They didnt

>>21461224
Funny thing you mention Peterson as your friend, I have met the man several times. As noted I'm Canadian, from southern Ontario and attended a number of his UofT lectures in the early 00's. He was indeed quite a brilliant man. Unfortunately it seems a combination of staring into the abyss for several years on end while in gastrointestinal agony warped him into the bizzare state he's in now.

>>21461363
Sad.
>>21461450
>it seems a combination of staring into the abyss for several years on end while in gastrointestinal agony warped him into the bizzare state he's in now
Let's not forget his "heroic" dose of psilocybin mushrooms in college, and the aforementioned withdrawals from benzodiazepines. Funny enough, ethanol and benzo withdrawals are apparently the only drug withdrawals that can kill you...

>>21460998
To be fair, the "wine" they sell to their own kind is just as horrible.

>>21460575
Right of passage.

>>21461541
A passage under a bridge, probably. Also, *rite.

>>21461463
Not really. I never saw much of an issue with a lower drinking age. I also don't base my moral code on ambiguous laws made by a government that will allow someone to die for a foreign power before they can legally get a beerski with their friends

>>21463173
>I never saw much of an issue with a lower drinking age
Yes, because ethanol abuse is so normalized across the world that its effects are nearly unrecognizable.
>a beerski with their friends
Case in point. As I mentioned before, we view inebriation to be part and parcel with celebration. Tell me, how is pickling yourself at a bar all too different from the "laughing gas parties" of the 19th century? Oh wait, I forgot about those darn "whippets," or that household brand "Galaxy Gas." The more things change, I guess...
>I also don't base my moral code on ambiguous laws made by a government
Neither do I. The 21st amendment was a mistake.

>>21463247
Which many other things that humans have enjoyed for millenia also upset you this much? There must be more, I feel like you're holding back. Please don't hokd back, bitch about every little thing that pisses you off because someone is doing something you don't like. I am finding this whole situation delightful

>>21460919
kek

>>21463247
A couple beers doesn't potentially kill you. That's the main difference

>>21463262
>things that humans have enjoyed for millenia
Like drilling skulls with sharp rocks to let the demons out? Or bloodletting to try and re-balance the humors? "We did this for THOUSANDS of years, why should we stop now?!" Because as much as I loathe modern "progressives," the fact is we have progressed and this kind of self-medication is not helping us, individually or collectively, beyond a "bandage-on-a-bullet-wound" sense of "help."
>I am finding this whole situation delightful
I'm sure you want me to believe that...
>>21463285
I frankly wouldn't care any less if either one was totally harmless. See >>21460845.

>>21463296
>I'm sure you want me to believe that...

I don't care what you believe, I'm just enjoying the impotent rage over free will

>>21463300
>free will
Chemistry is a deterministic process. Life arose from chemistry. What does that make you?

>>21463328
A place for chemical reactions to happen

>>21463368
You are made of those chemical reactions. Again, what does that make you?

>>21460845
Mormons and Muslims are great examples of clear minded retards

>>21463389
>they don't share my metaphysical preconceptions, so they're retarded
>if everyone shared their views towards recreational drugs that they did, everyone would be retarded
Pardon me for saying this, but that's retarded.

>>21463296
The difference is, we mostly stopped all of those goofy medical things as we advanced as a species. We're always doing something that will be looked at poorly by future generations, medicine wise, but we've also done away with stuff we realized doesn't work.
Meanwhile, alcohol has been the cornerstone of every civilization and is still widely consumed today. There are alcoholics and there are negative health effects associated with excessive drinking, but this was always the case, and ancient people also wrote about the dangers of drinking too much. There is a wealth of evidence showing that people who drink wine moderately live longer. The life expectancy in Italy and in France, two nations where the population drinks wine like it's water, is 82 years.

>>21463401
See the post I linked to in that one.

>>21463328
It makes me a configuration of complex chemistry with the ability to make choices about my(our) existence.

>>21463389
>>21463392
This is a valid question. Can you recount five cultures or religions that have both completely abstained from alcohol and other mind altering substances, and which have made lasting and positive contributions to humanity as a whole?

>>21463423
No matter how complex the chemistry is, its functions are no less deterministic.
>both completely abstained from alcohol and other mind altering substances, and which have made lasting and positive contributions to humanity as a whole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

>>21463431
At least I see where you are coming from. What are your thoughts on contemporary Iran? Also, that was one. Do you have four more?

>>21463431
my chemistry has determined im always hungry and horny

>>21459593 (OP)
you are not wrong.

>>21463431
islam has made no positive lasting contributions to society in the last 200 years.

>>21463431
The time and place that distillation was invented.
Frankly making alcohol a sin just made people want to get drunk faster.
Also they had Hash and Opium, have you read any of those works? Half of their poetry is about getting fucked up the other half is about thinking of their lover while they're fucked up.

>>21463445
>What are your thoughts on contemporary Iran?
Why should I expend energy an a culture a world away that I have way (or want) to influence?
>that was one. Do you have four more?
Sadly, it seems most cultures are hypocrites on the drug question, so it's hard to find even a single-digit number of cultures that practice total abstinence from them, let alone ones you would call "significant."
>>21463453
I believe we call that the "lizard brain" in current neuroscience...
>>21463455
>in the last 200 years
Do you have any idea how narrow of a qualifier that is in the grand scheme of things?
>>21463458
>The time and place that distillation was invented
Good thing there are better uses for it than giving you higher-grade "hooch."
>they had Hash and Opium
Well, fuck them too. I guess their current culture of enforced sobriety (which I would call "based" if I didn't know where that particular slang originated from) is just one of the two times a day that clock is right.

>>21463473
>Why should I expend energy an a culture a world away that I have way (or want) to influence?

That's the stuff.

>>21463482
Oh look, I forgot the word "no." May the ridicule be unending...

I started buying 99 bananas nips for 89 cents. I havent cut down buying my regular drinks but have added one or two these in daily. Its over bros

>>21459593 (OP)
Leccy melon is pretty good

>>21463409
I did. I still maintain my position that you're a fuddy duddy.

>>21463392
It's more the inbreeding and believing very stupid shit that makes them retarded. That doesn't go for religion as a whole, you just have to be retarded to buy into Mormonism and most Muslim countries have SIGNIFICANT rates of inbreeding

>>21460575
Take your meds lmao

>the autistic guy having a pants shitting meltie because if he accidentally drinks 25 milligrams of caffeine he has to roll around on the floor for 3 hours
You're the kind of person who would actually be executed in whatever dumb society you're thinking about, you mutated malformed faggot.

>>21463495
And I'm still waiting for your point.
>>21463497
>you just have to be retarded to buy into Mormonism
You could say that about any nth-order religion that the lion's share of followers only practice because they learned it from their parents and community.
>most Muslim countries have SIGNIFICANT rates of inbreeding
And none of that directly makes their stance on ethanol any less correct.
>>21463498
Yes, I should take psychoactive substances if they are recommended to me as treatment for a psychiatric disorder. Fortunately, no doctor has said that my beliefs regarding the culture of normalized drug abuse is any sign of a chemical imbalance.
>>21463504
>whatever dumb society you're thinking about
At least you admit that you have no idea what I think.

>>21463516
You should read about Mormonism. There's a reason it's the butt of most religious jokes.

Also, inbred retards is not an ideal society. There's a reason the middle east hasn't contributed to society in the last 2000 or so years. But hey that's your perfect civilization

>>21463527
>You should read about Mormonism
Like it was founded by a huckster, roped in gullible people with a tall tale, and has "godly revelations" that are really just born of the church's leadership's regular boardroom meetings? Cool. Their stance on ethanol, tobacco, caffeine (pre-Mitt Romney Diet Coke scandal), and other psychoactive substances is still a case of a broken clock being right twice a day.
>the last 2000 or so years
Typo? Because that would just so happen to include the Islamic Golden Age.

Cheap american booze inspires such morbid curiosity in me, I just want to try them all, consequences be damned

>no religion
>no circumcision
>no (need for) drugs or alcohol*
>no fluoride
>no flame retardants
>no hard water
>no guns
>*everyone on a carnivore or at least animal-based diet (no vegans) = significantly less mental/physical illness and disease*
>no more wasting land farming plant foods, use the land to raise animals instead, and by extension significantly less pollution
Imagine. The world would be a better place.

>>21461234
I drink it for immersion whenever I watch Street Trash.

>>21463577
>no flame retardants
It’s always interesting to see a new unique type of mental illness, like the other stuff is just standard issue culture war schizo shit but who has a problem with fire extinguishers? Did your alcoholic daddy once beat you with one after he was done molesting you?

>>21463647
Not fire extinguishers, I mean the chemicals they're putting on mattresses and other shit to supposedly try to stop these things from catching on fire / slow the burn, but who tf smokes in bed these days? If you're that much of a loser, you deserve going up in flames. Nobody else needs to be exposed to these harmful chemicals for the less than 1% population of loser retards that smoke in bed. Also fuck fiberglass and amalgam filings.

>>21463545
Nah it's just a bunch of tards who can't comprehend other aspects of humanity outside of their own beliefs. I guess you guys do have a lot in common desu senpai
No typo. Slims are shit and destroy anything they can, even their own inventions or potential contributions

>>21463485
Dude I'm really just making fun of you for wasting energy getting upset at humans being humans and your inability to control what they do.

>>21463702
>can't comprehend other aspects of humanity outside of their own beliefs
Can't relate. My beliefs are apparently so niche, I'm forced to "comprehend" that most adults either really like destroying themselves, or just don't care that they are.
>Slims are shit and destroy anything they can, even their own inventions or potential contributions
Yeah, that's why no one uses "al-jabr" anymore...
>>21463715
>humans being humans
Believe it or not, being sober doesn't change your species.
>your inability to control what they do
I find it equal parts comical and infuriating this narrative that any seemingly "unconventional" belief stems from some desire to control.

>>21463752
>I find it equal parts comical and infuriating this narrative that any seemingly "unconventional" belief stems from some desire to control.

So do you think humans and other animals should have the free will to choose if they consume ethanol, or not? If you don't want to drink I have no desire to change your behavior, it's your free choice to make. But if I would like to drink because I enjoy the effects, get the impression you would like to control my actions so that is not a choice I can make. Am I wrong on that?

If so, what is your opinion of non-human animals that consume ethanol or other things for their psychoactive effects?

>>21463795
>you would like to control my actions
Believing something should be illegal is not the same as wanting to personally enforce that law.

>>21463516
I've explained my point just fine, twice, and now thrice: you're a fucking gay faggot who should kill yourself. It's really that simple, and if you still don't get the point, I'll have to add that you're a retarded gay faggot.

>>21463807
>you're a fucking gay faggot who should kill yourself
That's not a point, that's you blowing off steam.

>>21463802
So you want me to be controlled, just not ny you? By whom then?

>>21463822
Who enforces laws?

>>21463826
The point is that you would like there to be a law that controls what I do, not who enforces it. You saying someone else should control my actions instead of yourself is just you being weak. You still want to control what I choose as a free person.

Answer the question about animals

>>21463833
>you would like there to be a law that controls what I do
That's what laws do, yes.
>You saying someone else should control my actions instead of yourself is just you being weak
No, that's me acknowledging that I'm currently in no position to enforce the Law.
>Answer the question about animals
Does the Law apply to animals?

>>21463842
Filled with rage and desire to control but even in your fantasies too weak to stand up for it. Your boot licking tears are ambrosia

>>21463870
>rage and desire to control
That's two counts of projection.
>boot licking
I was just thinking it took longer than usual for the childish insults to start coming in...

>>21459686
what is the "old blarney"?

>>21463894
In English this type of speech
>you're a fucking gay faggot who should kill yourself
Would be associated with the word rage. Whether you felt that, it was the tone you display in what you say here. As for control, it seems very clear that you think there should be more strict rules in place regarding alcohol use. Do you deny that?

>>21459593 (OP)
We drinking wine here fellas?

>>21464008
>>you're a fucking gay faggot who should kill yourself
Did you seriously read >>21463819 and think that was something I said? Put the drink down.

>>21463927
Bullshit that tastes sweet basically.

>>21464008
>>21464028
Oh, right...
>it seems very clear that you think there should be more strict rules in place regarding alcohol use. Do you deny that?
No, I don't deny that in the slightest.

>>21463819
Nope, it's my whole point. You're retarded, you're gay, you're a faggot, and you should kill yourself. There is no rage or malice, I'm just calling it like I see it.

>>21464021
That looks like a fun party game. Goon is an Australian thing, right?

>>21464043
Ok, well come enforce them faggot, try to take our wine away yourself if you actually believe in your horseshit and aren't just a fantasizing slave mentality coward incel. Don't expect others to risk their lives when you hide behind your keyboard like a fucking bitch.

>>21464049
>Nope, it's my whole point
Then I accept your concession.
>There is no rage or malice
That's funny; your friend seems to think those words certainly do communicate as much. >>21464008
>>21464055
>try to take our wine away yourself
That would be theft, under the current Law.
>incel
We're just throwing around playground taunts like it's going out of style, aren't we?

>>21464105
So you admit you are a slave mentality coward then, got it. Well the current law says drinking is fine, and literally everyone can see what a cowardly faggot you are, so just give up and either move to Saudi Arabia or off yourself. Like I said, you are not going to make social changes which make people risk their lives for your faggotry if you are not willing to do so yourself.

>>21464051
Yeah, but it's just boxed wine.
If you've got boxed wine that uses a bag and a spinnable clothesline you can play it too.

>>21459700
for me it was this

>>21464113
>wishing the law would change, but following it as it stands, is slave mentality
Cool. I hope you're taking a swig before every reply, because at least you'd have an excuse.
>move to Saudi Arabia
Yes, I don't blindly love every aspect of my culture, so I should adopt a new one that I also don't love every part of...
>you are not going to make social changes
Never expected to. No politician would dare platform on abolishing ethanol, or even re-affirming the Federal stance on cannabis; and if he did, he would go back on it the second he's sworn in, just like the current President in his first term.
>if you are not willing to do so yourself
So you'd only take me seriously if I started some band of thugs and punks that roamed the streets and burned liquor stores to the ground like it's 2020, is that it?

>>21464209
>wishing the law would change, but following it as it stands, is slave mentality
Yes, indeed it is. If people on our side had your mentality, the 21st Amendment and state legalizations of cannabis would never have happened.

>>21463577
I'll call you John Lennon with Stage 5 Terminal Autism

>>21464209
>>21464216
Hell, if prohibitionists in the early 20th century had your attitude, the 18th and prohibitions on drugs probably wouldn't have happened either https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Nation

>>21464209
NTA but I take issue with you being so adamant in your belief that ethanol is damaging to society without having the backbone to try and do something about it. If it was banned once it stands to reason it could be banned again. Furthermore, while it is up to law enforcement to enforce the law, it is the job of the citizenry to elect a legislature that writes laws of the land, and ultimately decides what those laws should be.

>>21463550
>Razzberry
How many years until we just accept blue as a flavor description this is some Simulacrum shit

>>21464220
Based Thoreauvian

>>21464227
Thanks anon, if anti ethanol anon has the time and ability to defend his beliefs here on 4chan, he might as well try using that same ability to try and change the laws that he believes are hurting our society

>>21464220
It's because like all right wing Christfaggots, every one of his beliefs is rooted in his own cowardice. If he were brave enough to do something about the substances he hates, he wouldn't fear them like he does.

>>21464234
>like all right wing Christfaggots
That'd make sense if you were talking about one.

>>21464233
He'll never do it, he's far too deep in his morally righteous crusade on the anime imageboard cooking website to actually take action

>>21464236
The point I made still stands though, the same cowardice which prevents you from taking action against alcohol is ultimately the reason you hate it in the first place.

>>21464234
While anon does share inaction and a sense of helplessness with "Right wing Christfaggots" its more likely that his fear isn't of ethanol but rather the fact that his beliefs place him in an extreme minority. His inaction is because he believes he is powerless. Secretly he posts here in the hope of finding others who share his uncommon beliefs

>>21464241
Honestly, its a shame, not because I agree with him, rather, its simply a waste of perfectly weaponized autism

>>21464256
Hes really missing out on antagonizing strangers while drunk. personally I find it to be a great use of my time.